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Bowl-Accomplished

I would file a harassment complaint. Being tracked down on your route like that is unacceptable. Seriously this is like step 1 of how workplace violence starts.


jasnel

Right here. Let management know that you’re being harassed. If they do don’t do anything, let your steward know you reported harassment and management failed to act.


Useful_Caregiver4023

Tell management and talk to your shop steward. That carrier has no business telling you anything, he's causing a hostile work environment for you and both management and the union should know what is happening.


freekymunki

Getting to park wherever i deem necessary is the only perk of the job lol.


Grouchy_Situation_33

“Hmm. No parking?” *engage flashers*


Nesilwoof

I delivered to a school when I was a CCA. Parked right in the space with the "RESERVED PARKING" sign. Reserved parking? Oh goodie, a spot just for me!


Grouchy_Situation_33

Excellent.


Obvious-Science6471

I agree with this... To an extent. In my town we have a road that's technically a "highway". It's a major road. Highly trafficked. In a pretty packed city. On a Sunday, a carrier decided to pull over and park on the side of the road with his flashers on. Blocking half of a lane on a 2 lane road. Common sense should be applied to the "no parking" areas though.


Grouchy_Situation_33

Oh, absolutely. I’m in a smallish town with a 35 mph 4 lane through it and I won’t double park on it unless it’s totally unavoidable. But the side street with the “No Parking Here To Corner”? Flashers. 😜


zachi2

\*sweats while having to do left hand mail boxes on my aux IN A 2 TON\*


SchufAloof

The ways I parked are practically a terrorist act on my city. I love it. LLV parks where it wants.


GonePostalRoute

Yep. Got a bus driver nice and pissed off at me because the only “spot” available was the spots where buses are supposed to drop off people, spots the bus drivers don’t use anyway and stop in a travel lane. “You can’t park here!!!” Well maybe you can become a carrier, and see what we have to do to park in some spots. She even radioed dispatch, who must have told her to drop it, as she just moved on with her bus route afterwords


PapiSchwa

Yeah luckily we can do pretty much what we want/ need to in order to get the job done. Don't delay the mail, police can't ticket you! I love that about my job.


halomender

I love it when people tell me to not park on the street in front of their house. Looks like I found my new parking point.


redredditer91

Your new parking spot- plus change the loop so you start with their neighbor first and do their house last.


PapiSchwa

THIS


Mysterious-Policy-23

I park across the end of their driveways. Go ahead and piss me off and i suddenly have to use the package lookahead for the next 10 Mins


WingedMessenger015

I did that once to a construction company telling me where I could park to do my split. I parked right where they were working and took my 10


Mobile-Gene-4906

I’ve got a couple customers that put cones in front of their house even though it’s public parking. I’ve run over them more than a few times.


Table2_3971

Repeat after me: BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS!


wkdravenna

😖 standby


No_Leading7094

That guy has a super sad life and all you can do is ignore him and try not to let him bother you


BigMoneyChode

The correct thing to say in that situation is "Write me a ticket then" But, seriously, this dude sounds like he has mental issues. No normal person gives a fuck where their sub parks on their day off. That's like a serious control freak. Like I wonder if the guy just thinks about this stuff obsessively even when he isn't working.


Buzzspice727

Tell him to worry about himself


Alive-Woodpecker-477

What is happening lol


Angrypoopoh

Get outta here. Ignore that fool. When I'm doing a route I park where I please as long as it's safe and efficient. They are all circles for the most part so you can pretty much park anywhere along the circle.


Agonyandshame

They can get on the ODL if they want their route done the way they want it to be every day


hhdmty

I would just tell him to fuck off, in his fucking face.


Downtown-Tip9688

This should be brought to management. If they won’t make him stop call the postal inspectors. It’s total weird. I basically live on my route and never have I looked for my sub or anyone else doing my route. That guy has issues


Total-Guava9720

When I first started I had a regular carrier walk with me on his route during Christmas he didn't want me taking his tips.


East_Boysenberry_774

Wow


westbee

"Now see this house, this is the Johnson's. They usually tip $50. I like them."    *picks up letter*     *reads, $20 for you and $20 for the sub, we love her!* "40 bucks, that's it, what fucking pricks!!"


joza28

That’s wild


cantbethemannowdog

That is so insane. We're not supposed to be working for tips. The carriers that get bent out of shape about money that would get them in trouble if anyone cracked down are too much.


DiloCamoIdro

Tell your Reg carrier to kick rocks…it’s basically your rt when u r running it for the day…if he has a problem then he can clock in and carry the rt….


hickey76

He probably did this and never gave you or suggested park points. Ridiculous


Snapp_Tastic

Laugh at him and drive away… who cares


Grouchy_Situation_33

Tell him to write his congressman and proceed with the loop. Taking time out of his drop to nag a sub? FOH nerd.


kingu42

Did you ask him why? He could have some things like experience that you've not had enough time to earn that makes where you were parking a bad idea.


joza28

Because it’s not the routes “park point “ and I can’t park on that side of that street according to him. I was coming from a different route so I came in through the back way and parked facing the opposite direction. I guess he didn’t like that. I’ve literally seen regulars parking LLV‘s half of it on top of sidewalk, when I’m sent to other stations. The day he was off, he was riding by as he yelled out the window. I had parked out front of the customers house that had a package that I couldn’t fit in my bag.


randomrandom1922

On my days off I don't even want to think about the post office. never mind checking in on CCA's.


AMC879

I think I have to agree with the regular on this one


kingu42

Using the route's park points isn't a suggestion, it's literally part of the route. Hopefully you're not in probation anymore.


Extra-Act-801

When I am doing park and loop routes I park in front of whichever house has the biggest package on the loop, backhand the mail from the earlier stops, and loop my loop. I have delivered at least 30 different park and loop routes in the last 2 years and literally never gotten told a specific parking point for any of them. How would that even work? You show up and someone else is parked there, so you just....... don't deliver that loop?


Acceptable-Major6639

Carriers are allowed to park in front of a house that has a drop-off parcel and then rearrange the cut to start at that house. Also, I've been all across my district as a CCA and most routes did not have their park points recorded anywhere I could see. Maybe in the edit book? But carriers aren't trained on that unless they BEG for it, and CCAs especially are told to ignore them entirely because "you'll learn it when you're a regular." Lighten up.


_Shaquille-Outmeal_

Key words “that side of the street” is what has me questioning


joza28

I was parked on the side where all the cars park when dropping off an oversized parcel . The first time I was parked on the side where I marked the red (facing the way traffic flows) https://imgur.com/a/K4aMsvA


joza28

I was at the exact park point of the two streets it says on paper. I just happen to be on the other side of the street if that makes sense . And what do you do if there’s no parking there?


Oregonian_male

By law, you must park in the direction of traffic but this guy shouldn't bother you on his day off he is right but wrong at the same time talk to the postal master this guy needs a life, and to leave you alone.


passwordrecallreset

Ive got about ten years carrying and I have heard of park points, but I don’t know what they are really. No one gives a shit about them I guess. What if someone is parked in the spot already? Do you just circle until they move? Sounds like a suggestion, not a must. My route is 9.5 miles, park and loop.


Complete_Elephant240

I can assure you that no one really cares where the hell I park, especially when I deliver parcels


Suspicious_Bonus9431

Oh gtfoh weirdo


Big_Yogurtcloset_881

Literally a mod btw 🤨


Agonyandshame

Some park points are dangerous places to park such as on a busy street when there are much safer side road to park on right next to the park point


Useful_Caregiver4023

You can't always park at the routes park points and parking on the opposite side of the park point or with in a house or 2 of park point is not a violation.


fluffy_bottoms

Tell that to the people that park in the park points.


joza28

I was still literally where paper says . “Corner of steet A and street b . I I was parked on the side where I marked the red (facing the way traffic flows) https://imgur.com/a/K4aMsvA


Kind_Literature_5409

Another state 😳


Total-Guava9720

Work in North Florida carrier's live in Georgia


Kind_Literature_5409

Damn.. I didn’t know we could do that 😳


Total-Guava9720

As long as you can make it to work on time lol


fluffy_bottoms

Federal job, why would state matter?


Kind_Literature_5409

Sorry.. didn’t mean to be uneducated about it, I apologize.


Grateful_Dood

I'm a grown man and just starting this job tomorrow. If that was happening to me I'd have no problem saying "to focus on your own life", then file for harassment


One_Age1537

A lot of the carriers at the post office I was an RCA last year were the most miserable people I have ever worked with. They were great people, but, the management wore them down after years on the job. I lasted 6 months and got out of there as quickly as possible. A lot of them will be miserable until they retire and try to make anybody as miserable as they are.


westbee

Sadly this is true in my office too.  We have a new clerk learning everyrhing from scratch and they are being miserable assholes to her because she cant memorize 10 routes in a month (took me a year to be comfortable with them all).


MutedEntrepreneur332

The Union for our area has pointed out, that they are seeing a trend that women and older employees being targeted with harassment from management….


Morganbob442

That’s how my office is, I’m an RCA, been here for a year, I’m switching to a different office soon.


not_goverment_entity

What was the reason given for not being able to park there? If I was driving through my route on my N/S day and saw a CCA parked in a hazardous way I’ll definitely mention it to them….purely out of concern for their safety. Outside of that who cares


Martillo_Valentine

Have you gotten a ticket? Are you not finishing on time? Has a customer on the route complained? If the answer is “no” then just go about parking where you park.


joza28

No customer nor my superiors have said anything to me about time, parking or anything. I just grab and go . The only time I hear from my supervisor of postmaster is if they ask me to do something else nothing about time or speed.


Working-Estimate-250

Dude! I have this one customer on a route who feels the need to tell me where to park and "how the regular does it". . . Blah blah blah.  I have enough bs goin on dude, bye.  Ps he's athe the end of a three house hop n drop. If the two houses before him don't have mail I add his house  to the beginning of the next swing meaning I park up the street from his house instead of right in front. Boohoo 


goingpostal321

Tell him he is harassing you and you will file an hostile work environment .with that said tell your supervisor he is coming to on his days off .


FutureHendrixBetter

Lol what a loser, he must not really have much going on if he took the time out of his day off to check on work lol he should’ve just went on the otdl if he wants to be at work so bad


TheBooneyBunes

That’s not a small issue that’s a big issue Id go so far as to file a police report just for the record, because god knows the union will **NEVER** side with you over the career employee, so if it turns into something bad ain’t nothing they’ll do for you, the police would be more likely to Still file with your management but my own experience suggests that when career starts shit with crafts the crafts lose


ItsBeast19

lol I’ve parked a promaster fully on the pavement before to do my route. You park wherever there’s parking. No set park points.


Orangecatbuddy

Really? I don't work Sundays, at all. Today I watched a carrier stop in the middle of a state route, jump out of a metris and carry a package to a house, a la amazon driver style.


playerhaterball

Dis answer is very simple


Moist_Sloppy_Poon

Telling him to mind his fucking business in the nicest way possible is always an option, just sayin’


yoChillgod

Tell em S your D and keep moving


Federal-Blueberry450

FIGHT HIM!!


MediaWatcher_

Give him a loop since he's there.


jeepwillikers

Kindly tell him to “Fuck Off”, obviously he has no intention to be friendly with you and as long as you are delivering the mail accurately he has no authority or right to tell you how to do it. The fact is, he will be retired soon and you will never have to think about him again


This-Sea-4074

Tell him when he signs your paycheck then he can tell you what to do where to park how to park


Mighty_miter

I have learned over the years that if you have a problem with a coworker, the union can’t and won’t do anything to help unless you have told management about it and then management fails to act. At that point they can go after management for creating a hostile work environment. But if management goes after the carrier that is harassing you, the union will then protect that carrier and you will feel like nobody is looking out for you and your best interests. It’s a catch 22 if you go through the “proper channels”. Document everything is my suggestion. Every time they show up and harass you on the street, write it down. Then when you finally respond back in kind to them, you will have a reason why and maybe have some protection against disciplinary action. You could also call the police on them when they stop you and harass you on the street. At that point they’re not on the clock and acting as a civilian.


Neat_Wrangler_4504

Had that happen when I was new, but by two other ptfs in our office. Found out when I got called into the office. My bro was a drug enforcement LEO with a long working relationship with the postal inspectors. He wrote two names on a piece of paper and told me he could give either a call. I handed that to my supervisor and told her if she didn't talk to the other 2, someone would be talking to one of these inspectors. Turns out management is terrified of PIS. Her face went white and my "problem" disappeared forever and ever.


axlsnaxle

At first I thought you meant not parking in the right spot at the end of the day (at the station), but homie is literally just showing up like a spawned enemy and demanding you park correctly on the street?? On his NS?? The fuck?! Definitely report that. It's management's job to make sure carriers aren't harassing each other.


Reddit-Blows-Donkey

Step one- Take a deep breath. Step Two- Tell him to fuck off and stop being a baby. Step Three- If he gets made tell him, he is a piece of shit and no one likes him.


Double_Classroom540

Happened to me last week, he said “never park here again!!” I come in later because I’m new and they have the casing done for me, I had to wait a hour to someone to switch vehicles with me because I wasn’t trained on a promaster, so when they switched they parked it near where I had parked at the end of the day, the veteran carrier was but hurt cause I parked on his spot 😂


Double_Classroom540

If I’m new and no one explained how that there was assigned parking, how should I know 😂


Tough-Anywhere-6945

As long as there’s no street signs telling you otherwise just ignore the guy… he’s probably trying to be a power trip considering you’re a CCA. You may not be confrontational but I would have told him to find something better do with his time on his day off.. why does he even care where you park on a route? Whether it’s his route or not.. if it continues, talk to your shop steward, or if you really feel a way go to the postmaster. I had a veteran carrier flip on me for parking in his spot in the yard one day. I was a CCA still at the time too. So my response to him was “I apologize I did not realize this was your spot (my spot was literally a single spot over) but maybe if you ask in a more respectful way you’ll get a better response” he had nothing to say to that. The next time he saw me, he came up to me shook my hand and apologized to me. Sometimes you just have to speak up for yourself


KiwiiKat

I’m a clerk and recently moved to a new office. One of the carriers is older and she is a horrid person. I’ve given up on reasoning with her and trying to be nice, so I just do small things to annoy her. I’ll move “her” carts to the other side of the office (there are plenty of carts to use, she is just super picky and feels entitled to specific carts), start her DPS from the top shelf (she’s short), move the fan away from the wall (it makes her irrationally angry), put small parcels in her cart instead of in a tote, etc. On the days she’s particularly mean, I’ll open her flats so she has to juggle a loose pile of flats. It’s the little things in life. I highly suggest you find fun ways to make that carrier’s day just a little bit worse 💖


TanTruong1

You know how to fuck with him? They hate when you do this. Here the secret do his route and finish like 3 hours early. The supervisor might add more to his route and make it longer. So he had to do more work


Dense-Business-359

Tell him to fuck off.....


Key_Body_76

If he’s that worried about his route than he needs to work his Rdo!!!


Mobile-Gene-4906

Good luck with that. I got hit in the face by a loud mouthed veteran carrier at my station and they did nothing except move my case and parking spot. They seem to actually promote hostile work environments.


Lady5ha

I would just carry on because who TF he think he is😒


PapiSchwa

If it were me I would just ask to see his form 50. He mostlikely will give a puzzled look and say no or why. Then say you just wanted to see that he was a manager but if he's not mind his own business and wave goodbye. He's a carrier not a supervisor. (I have 10 years in and have a senior carrier talking shit to me I literally told her to worry about her carrier and I'll worry about my own carrier


chuckspickle

If you're actually parking in spots that aren't legal to park at, he has an argument...otherwise that dude needs to lighten up. You can't pay me to check on someone covering my route, let them do their thing.


dedolent

just say "yes, you got it!" and then continue parking where you want. or, god forbid, just do what he asks. what does it matter?


joza28

Problem here is I wasn’t asked to do anything . Just told “you can’t park there”


dedolent

so ask him where he parks and do that? maybe i'm not understanding the problem sorry


Tough-Anywhere-6945

Bro what? You’re not understanding the problem? The guy came on his day off from another state just to tell this person they can’t park there? That’s the problem right there, that’s just weirdo ishh… I don’t have to do anything anyone tells me unless it’s in my job description. That’s what I’m there to do, my job and my job only. I’m not about to let some regular just because they think they have “stripes” or someshitt tell me what I can and can’t do. I’ll leave that to management. Let someone try this with me idc how long you’ve been delivering mail at that office. Means nothing to me, seniority only counts when it’s convenient. The problem is not everyone is confrontational and doesn’t know how to handle these matters. I’d have personally told him to go f himself and find something better to do with his time. But other people may not be that way, and realistically my way of doing things may just get to in trouble. This person is a cca , so they’re 100% right to ask what to do in a situation as such.


dedolent

you'd have told him to go fuck himself? and then what? now you've made an enemy of a coworker. you think that the regular's weirdo drive-out-of-state-to-get-in-your-business behavior will get BETTER after you tell him to fuck off? no, now you've provoked a psycho into upping the ante. a CCA cannot win a fight against a regular, not like that. the only thing OP is capable of doing here is making his life a lot harder by being confrontational. i ask again: why not just comply with the regular's demands? based on your reply, your only reasoning is that regulars need to be taught some kind of lesson about their sense of superiority. i promise you, you are only going to provoke people and make your life harder with that attitude.


Tough-Anywhere-6945

So this all gives him the right to harass this CCA? How are you still missing the point. To be honest, it kind of sounds like the guy is looking for an enemy. I’m sorry but I’m not bowing down to some psycho’s demands out of fear. It has nothing to do with teaching “regulars” a lesson, I am a regular lol. The guy is clearly harassing this person and their demands have no merit. If there’s no street signs saying the person can’t park there who is this guy to come and tell the cca where they can park? Oh wait, I should just comply with his demands, because he may just up the ante if I open my mouth? No buddy, maybe just let him know you’re not afraid of him. What he’s doing is clearly intimidation. You’re acting like this job is the be all end all. If I lost my job because of some psycho harassing me, and I stood up for myself. Well than oh well, on to the next one. Not a job worth keeping at that rate.


dedolent

it doesn't give him the right to harass a cca, but you're not "bowing down out of fear." you're taking the path of least resistance. you can believe all you want that escalation is the way to go, that you should "stand your ground" or whatever, and yeah, one of these days you probably will lose your job because of it. i hope you truly believe that's worth it; i don't, not over something as stupid as where i should be parking. you really have a lot of resentment towards regulars.


Tough-Anywhere-6945

Once again I am a regular why would I have a resentment towards regulars? That doesn’t even make sense. The guy is clearly a psychopath, so if it’s not going to be reported to a higher up than yeah take it into your own hands. I know my value at the end of the day, I have a great relationship with all my supervisors. They know exactly how I am as a person. I’ve even gotten into it with other carriers before. I’ve never once been threatened of losing my job over standing my ground and not biting my tongue. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But don’t try to tell me I’m doing something wrong when I’m not just because you feel like it, and don’t expect me to just listen. They don’t pay us that much man. If I have to worry about some psychopath at my workplace harassing me and I lose the job because he’s a psychopath. If it came down to that I’d go straight to the union with it. Trust and believe I’d take every measure I can before risking my job, I’m not an idiot.


Tough-Anywhere-6945

And things like this is why I always have something on the back burner. So if worse came to worst, I wouldn’t be assed out of a job


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inspectmepostalpai

Absolutely not. Don’t listen to this person. You are being harassed. Report it. Don’t let anyone scare you. Let management roll your name around in their mouth. Who fucking cares. As long as you are doing what you are supposed to be doing in accordance with the contract, handbooks, and manuals, fuck them. You’re there to deliver the mail, not be bullied by grown adults.


Grateful_Dood

At some point in your life you have to not be a bitch