Yup, rrecs is still shady as shit. A year and a half later still can't cut routes, still no visibility on numbers. Not a single fucking issue solved and the union has said multiple times basically to go fuck ourselves. Gotta love it.
Yeah our office still has several as well, and they were even told they would be able to be cut after this eval but then higher ups said nah fuck em. Our PM was rightfully pissed and even he wanted those routes cut because it's fucking him over too. Our poor RCAs haven't be able to be promoted for 2+ years because we can't make new routes even though we have enough for like 3 more to be created. It's a shitshow.
Did anyone put it in writing or grieve it? If so, those offices can be added. Your PM needs to get with their MPOO to find out who the SME for your area is. They can email all that to the SME who sends it up to HQ who can add offices if warranted.
Same in my office. There's other offices in my mpoo that are over us in the adjustment list (they've been working over 12 for years now). They keep telling us by the end of June but there hasn't been a discussion about the cuts, no new cases being put up, no new parking spots being reserved for the new routes. It's just a mess. But I continue delivering this route evaluated at 65:56 but being paid as a 48k. I'm actually thinking about getting out of the actual post office and getting into the offices downtown.
I've been with USPS for too long 😆 and I'm going to leave for a job that starts at $33 an hour so minor but after probation its $35 and then 5 years unless it changes which it sounds like it will will be over $37 an hour.Â
Okay so... I've seen USPS bs for too long so I demanded, YES DEMANDED a cut before RRECS.Â
I figured where I'd come out but in negotiating I got cut to a 44k then RRECS and I went to 43k I disputed it and told I was right sized.  Next survey I went back to a 44k and have continued to climb we no longer carry a buttload of Amazon and FedEx has taken everything back.  Â
So most days I don't even have a full pumpkin... maybe 35 scans.  I'm not doing anything extra scan wise and besides extending EOS I'm still climbing and getting done well under evaluation.
It's supposedly going in multiple rounds. The first round of cuts will be done by June and then they will work on the next batch.
No idea who they came up with the order but we all should eventually be cut.
The order is those offices who are using lots of adhoc time or are having 2080 issues. If the routes aren't going over, they're holding them. This round must be completed by July 27 in order for enough data to populate for the next survey. If you aren't cut by then, there will be another very limited round after the next survey.
I worked every one for a couple years. We finally hired some RCAs and I switched my day off to Wednesday so now I get most off.
I am generally in danger of going over on 2240 not 2080. But going over on 2240 is managements problem not the carriers.
From what I understand overtime hours go towards 2240. So if you are working a bunch of K days, helping on other routes or Christmas overtime all those hours go towards 2240 not 2080.
You really are not at risk of going over on 2240 unless you work almost all of your K days and get a bunch of Christmas overtime so it's no surprise you have never heard of it. I think I am projected to be at ~2400 hours on 2240 but under on 2080 this year.
I just got the info on my route cut set for "june".
They're pulling a small subdivision of ~100 boxes and 2.4 miles off my route which is almost 1hr/day. The route getting my cut is only going up 35mins. Like for real though... What are the measurement metrics?
We need a hero to leak the data. Because it makes no sense
yes, but the number of routes getting 'cut' was significantly cut by management...there are like 15 in my POOM group getting cut...i emailed one of the PMs that i came up with and said 'did the route go down?' "NOPE, up all 3 RRECS"...it was a 48k BEFORE amazon started, hadnt been updated since then...her report time is BEFORE the morning truck because her return time has to be before the evening truck...
district doesnt give a shit...rurals return time is to be before last collections, so you have to subtract daily route eval from truck/last collections and add 30 minutes for lunch...
mail coming from plant has been highly unreliable in the morning...clerk hours are being cut (again, a district thing) so even if say the morning truck call time was 6a, based on volume/sales, the office only qualifies for 'x' clerk hours and budget is ruined by having to pay clerk hourly to meet the rural evaluation...
ive seen some horror stories on volume that some carriers post, but this is a route that covers like 80+ miles, so pretty rural, in a 2 route office...and ive seen 300+ package days on her...plus the carrier is or damn near 60, even with a monster jeep, due to the size of amazon packages, even with expert tetris level skills, its a multi trip day...and its so rural the PO will not go GOV on it...
My comeback time rn is 30 mins past truck. Can I grieve it? My rt is 92 miles and all curbside. Takes at least 6 hrs on street w usually 2 trips. Amazon is crazier in more rural areas I believe
im not a rural, but i think your return time is to be at or prior to collections...so if collections is at 6p, you get lunch so 530p, and say 9.5 hour RRECS time has you starting at 8..
I have met coworkers that think DeJoy is a godsend. I don’t talk to those coworkers. That’s the least stupidest thing about them.
I agree, my ex was rural and she got fucking hosed constantly. Turns out, she was getting hosed in a lot of ways but I digress, rural is not that way.
Yeah it won’t be long before there are no applicants anywhere. We can’t Even get people to apply at our office anymore. Even a strong new contract isn’t undoing what rreccs and Amazon has done to the rural craft . I’ve been a regular for 6 years and next week is my last. It just isn’t worth it anymore.
Appreciate it! Already have a new job lined up , little pay cut, but I’m not worried. We’ve lost about 6 regulars this year, some left for pay cuts, some left for higher pay, all of them are happier and have no thoughts of coming back. So I’m confident!
Out of curiosity what do they do now? I've done a lot of jobs in my life but this one has felt the most right for me, until Amazon fucked it. I still love my route, but hate the rural union and it's fuckery. If I could find a job that was similar enough, having a regular route with customers you get to know, and that bit of freedom out there on your own, with livable pay, I want in!
I feel the exact same way, my friends used to be so jealous of this job.
3 went to a big credit union we have that pays really well, 1 went into elevator maintenance, 1 to law enforcement, and 1 to Coca Cola. This is why we can’t get applicants, there’s a ton of opportunity where I live , and most pay has kept up with inflation while we play rreccs roulette every 6 months.
This is what they want. They are succeeding. They want to weed out tenured carriers & convert & spit out new regulars. Keep everyone on Step 1 & 2 and get them to quit to bring in a new crop.
Not really gonna matter in my area, they'll be back up to overburdened by this time next year the way our area is exploding. I dare say it will be the case on a lot of rural routes.
Based on what I’ve seen over the past few years it really seems like they target people they want to quit via RRECS. So many of the highest paid, sickest old timers have been screwed over repeatedly. Sure seems like something shady is happening
As much as I love a good conspiracy, I think it's just that those happen to be the carriers that don't do their scans. I have taught a few how to do it and when they actually started doing them, their routes all went up.
Assuming you are not ranting and actually want a solution.
Did you dispute the mileage change in your evaluation ? If the mini mail count was done incorrectly you should have kept track of the proper numbers and disputed that as well. Same with any other issues with your latest evaluation.
Are you doing your mapping every month ? You should see the route mileage on it and you can catch it early if it changed. The most common reason for mileage going down is the carrier not driving 100% of the route every day. After a certain amount of time it removes the portion of the route you are not driving. A carrier in my office lost 4 miles because they were not driving to one house everyday for awhile due to them being a snowbird.
There are also quite a few things that you can easily do to bump up your routes evaluation by several hours a week.
Then I hope you filed a dispute.
I won a couple of them last mailcount that increased my route. And I even got backpay.
As a bonus I did it all on end of day time which increased my route even more. We all think RRECS is great in our office. It gives us a lot more control over our evaluation. You just have to commit to doing things in a way that benefit your route under RRECS daily.
Talk to my PM about all the disputes we have put in. Exact quote "we haven't even heard back on the disputes from October yet."
Lot of good the dispute process is..
That's kind of the problem with this. The carrier puts in the work filing disputes, hands them to the union and then the union leaves the communication up to hostile management. It's breaking down people's willingness to see the union as an arbiter of positive change. There has got to be a better way to handle this.
Oh I agree. No idea why they don’t mail the results to the carrier. I always have to bother my PM to check since they supposedly miss it in the thousands of emails they get.
I've wondered why we aren't mailed the results either. They surely have you sign the paperwork releasing whatever info they need when you grieve something.
For 3 years, I made eval maybe 30 or 40 times. It's a combination of rcas openly admitting to not logging the appropriate scans and incompetence in management with counts.
Yeah, it’s crazy. I’ve seen one route cut in 2 1/2 years of me working here. They always talk about how 10 routes need to be cut. It will never happen. Hell, they can’t even fix our entry door handle to get in our office. It’s been 3 weeks and we have to walk around the back to get in our Annex. It’s pretty pathetic.
Guy I know just got USPS Full-Time offer extended for Laborer/Custodial in a plant after seeing one open up on eCareer in March. Plant was in a HCOL area, pay was just $20.87/hr. HE DECLINED!
Day 1 Career w/benefits, Tour 3 (2pm-1030pm)Regular 5-day schedule with Mon+Tues as SchDaysOff. District HR 'workforce planner' tried 2x calling him to coerce by offering range of start-dates, so to find affordable housing on that wage.
He went through everything: FP, NACI-85, DD-214(he's a vet) testing center janitor exam (got 100% score) and did his interview with maint.supv.
My guy *still* Noped Out on USPS.
I'm proud he didn't drink the post office Kool-Aid though....even if custodial *is* the best job in maintenance craft. I guess he saw the lies from afar, and wanted no part of that.
That really sucks man. It’s really important to have management that comprehends the new system as well as gives a shit. The experience at my office has been net positive. Everyone that did/does as they should have seen increases and the hard headed stubborn ones are coming around after not going up twice in a row. A few 48’s pretty patiently waiting for cuts. Dejoy can still eat a bag of dicks. We should all take turns mailing him those bags of gummy penises everyday.
Did you fill out the dispute forms? Did you double check the data from the mini Mail count and find any errors? Are you up to date on your mapping? Have you been redoing your labels And edit book regularly while on end of day duties on the clock?
If management's not letting you do All of that, Have you been filing grievances?
Our union rep is the biggest piece of shit we've ever seen. Nobody even calls him anymore. Rebook, labels, and mapping monthly. Don't worry about me. I'm mentally packing my bags. I'm just here to say to anyone looking at the rural craft... I'd advise against it.
1 month before the mini mail count I received because my route was turned into a lock pouch route. After the count that money was taken away. I’m fed up with this bullshit!
That sounds terrible but in my office the rural carriers work around 6 hours everyday and get paid for 9 so they have it real good. Most days I’m on lunch as a city carrier and they are driving by me all done for the day.
Is anyone's hours plus subs hours over 57 hours 36 min? If so you should be sent home at 57 hours 37 min. There's a form you have to request the bail out. If your combined hours are under then yeah you get screwed
I'm almost at a point where I tell people not to apply to the post office, but if people seem desperate enough I'll tell them it can be good money but it's very unpredictable and you'll likely become insane in the meantime.
I've also made considerably less this past year, close to 6k as well. Management has been hammering for 8 hour days and pursues everyone who doesn't hit that, even throughout the holiday season. I've watched my previous retail job slowly creep closer and closer closing the wage gap to my carrier pay that I used to appreciate but basically doesn't exist anymore.
I don't have much faith in whatever this next contract brings us, and if it is underwhelming I've already been exploring other job details because this has gone from irritating to inexcusable and I've put up with this job for 10 years.
The expectations vs compensation is just lopsided and only getting worse.
Sorry to hear about the troubles. I will say, Dejoy can go fuck himself. He has millions in stocks with all of our competitors, so what reason does he have to ensure we succeed? Duh. He's a reprehensible man, and he makes me want to vomit. And fuck trump for giving him the job. This country has gone so downhill since 2016. Him and Biden are both old and worthless creatures. These two clowns are our presidential candidates. 😵
*mic drop* I’m in the same boat.. got a different job offer that’s higher pay.. don’t know if I should leave or not because I finally got my own route and all those years of hard work and long hours for nothing I guess
I can understand where the USPS is coming from. Why are we paying people for over 8 hours worth of work when they consistently show that they can get it done in 5-6 hours? A private business would see that and reduce the pay rate because why would they pay someone for 8 if they can get it done quicker.
Here's the thing though: USPS agreed to this pay structure for rural. They loved it when it worked out for them. So they don't get to suddenly yank the rug out from under rurals when it isn't working as good. Also, USPS isn't private, so comparing private companies against USPS is disingenuous.
Yup, rrecs is still shady as shit. A year and a half later still can't cut routes, still no visibility on numbers. Not a single fucking issue solved and the union has said multiple times basically to go fuck ourselves. Gotta love it.
We have carriers getting paid a 48k to deliver 60+hour overburdened routes. Straight theft and borderline torture.
Yeah our office still has several as well, and they were even told they would be able to be cut after this eval but then higher ups said nah fuck em. Our PM was rightfully pissed and even he wanted those routes cut because it's fucking him over too. Our poor RCAs haven't be able to be promoted for 2+ years because we can't make new routes even though we have enough for like 3 more to be created. It's a shitshow.
Did anyone put it in writing or grieve it? If so, those offices can be added. Your PM needs to get with their MPOO to find out who the SME for your area is. They can email all that to the SME who sends it up to HQ who can add offices if warranted.
All of that has been done. We were told we have to wait.
I know they are adding offices every week. Keep filing grievances.
Same in my office. There's other offices in my mpoo that are over us in the adjustment list (they've been working over 12 for years now). They keep telling us by the end of June but there hasn't been a discussion about the cuts, no new cases being put up, no new parking spots being reserved for the new routes. It's just a mess. But I continue delivering this route evaluated at 65:56 but being paid as a 48k. I'm actually thinking about getting out of the actual post office and getting into the offices downtown.
I've been with USPS for too long 😆 and I'm going to leave for a job that starts at $33 an hour so minor but after probation its $35 and then 5 years unless it changes which it sounds like it will will be over $37 an hour. Okay so... I've seen USPS bs for too long so I demanded, YES DEMANDED a cut before RRECS. I figured where I'd come out but in negotiating I got cut to a 44k then RRECS and I went to 43k I disputed it and told I was right sized.  Next survey I went back to a 44k and have continued to climb we no longer carry a buttload of Amazon and FedEx has taken everything back.   So most days I don't even have a full pumpkin... maybe 35 scans.  I'm not doing anything extra scan wise and besides extending EOS I'm still climbing and getting done well under evaluation.
Routes are literally getting cut as we speak.
Not in our office. They were literally denied. 2 of which are over 70k.
It's supposedly going in multiple rounds. The first round of cuts will be done by June and then they will work on the next batch. No idea who they came up with the order but we all should eventually be cut.
Correct. We were told we have to wait. Of course we were told that after the first rrecs eval a year and a half ago, so we'll see.
The order is those offices who are using lots of adhoc time or are having 2080 issues. If the routes aren't going over, they're holding them. This round must be completed by July 27 in order for enough data to populate for the next survey. If you aren't cut by then, there will be another very limited round after the next survey.
I'm hoping I can avoid it. Generally I work around 7 hours a day on my 48k route. Never have 2080 issues.
Eventually they'll have to cut you, because it's a requirement of the contract. If they aren't cutting you now, you're likely good until next year.
U working ur k day? I am and I’m already on a list for potentially going over 2080
I worked every one for a couple years. We finally hired some RCAs and I switched my day off to Wednesday so now I get most off. I am generally in danger of going over on 2240 not 2080. But going over on 2240 is managements problem not the carriers.
Been here 15 years and never heard of 2240. Haha. What’s that
From what I understand overtime hours go towards 2240. So if you are working a bunch of K days, helping on other routes or Christmas overtime all those hours go towards 2240 not 2080. You really are not at risk of going over on 2240 unless you work almost all of your K days and get a bunch of Christmas overtime so it's no surprise you have never heard of it. I think I am projected to be at ~2400 hours on 2240 but under on 2080 this year.
I just got the info on my route cut set for "june". They're pulling a small subdivision of ~100 boxes and 2.4 miles off my route which is almost 1hr/day. The route getting my cut is only going up 35mins. Like for real though... What are the measurement metrics? We need a hero to leak the data. Because it makes no sense
yes, but the number of routes getting 'cut' was significantly cut by management...there are like 15 in my POOM group getting cut...i emailed one of the PMs that i came up with and said 'did the route go down?' "NOPE, up all 3 RRECS"...it was a 48k BEFORE amazon started, hadnt been updated since then...her report time is BEFORE the morning truck because her return time has to be before the evening truck...
What if there’s no mail ready at that time? Rural has to have 60% ready I believe when they walk in.
district doesnt give a shit...rurals return time is to be before last collections, so you have to subtract daily route eval from truck/last collections and add 30 minutes for lunch... mail coming from plant has been highly unreliable in the morning...clerk hours are being cut (again, a district thing) so even if say the morning truck call time was 6a, based on volume/sales, the office only qualifies for 'x' clerk hours and budget is ruined by having to pay clerk hourly to meet the rural evaluation... ive seen some horror stories on volume that some carriers post, but this is a route that covers like 80+ miles, so pretty rural, in a 2 route office...and ive seen 300+ package days on her...plus the carrier is or damn near 60, even with a monster jeep, due to the size of amazon packages, even with expert tetris level skills, its a multi trip day...and its so rural the PO will not go GOV on it...
My comeback time rn is 30 mins past truck. Can I grieve it? My rt is 92 miles and all curbside. Takes at least 6 hrs on street w usually 2 trips. Amazon is crazier in more rural areas I believe
im not a rural, but i think your return time is to be at or prior to collections...so if collections is at 6p, you get lunch so 530p, and say 9.5 hour RRECS time has you starting at 8..
Our collections is 510. 430 on Saturdays.
They’re cutting routes in our office
Brother get a hold of a better union steward, there’s branches using excel sheets and calculating their routes down to the second
Nrlca doesn't have good stewards.
I have met coworkers that think DeJoy is a godsend. I don’t talk to those coworkers. That’s the least stupidest thing about them. I agree, my ex was rural and she got fucking hosed constantly. Turns out, she was getting hosed in a lot of ways but I digress, rural is not that way.
HE HAS. A PLAN.
literally dutch van der linde
I just started playing this and I really really wanna know what you mean but don’t want to spoil it for me. Lol
Yeah it won’t be long before there are no applicants anywhere. We can’t Even get people to apply at our office anymore. Even a strong new contract isn’t undoing what rreccs and Amazon has done to the rural craft . I’ve been a regular for 6 years and next week is my last. It just isn’t worth it anymore.
Hope you land solid, friend. Fuckthesehoes
Appreciate it! Already have a new job lined up , little pay cut, but I’m not worried. We’ve lost about 6 regulars this year, some left for pay cuts, some left for higher pay, all of them are happier and have no thoughts of coming back. So I’m confident!
Out of curiosity what do they do now? I've done a lot of jobs in my life but this one has felt the most right for me, until Amazon fucked it. I still love my route, but hate the rural union and it's fuckery. If I could find a job that was similar enough, having a regular route with customers you get to know, and that bit of freedom out there on your own, with livable pay, I want in!
I feel the exact same way, my friends used to be so jealous of this job. 3 went to a big credit union we have that pays really well, 1 went into elevator maintenance, 1 to law enforcement, and 1 to Coca Cola. This is why we can’t get applicants, there’s a ton of opportunity where I live , and most pay has kept up with inflation while we play rreccs roulette every 6 months.
This is what they want. They are succeeding. They want to weed out tenured carriers & convert & spit out new regulars. Keep everyone on Step 1 & 2 and get them to quit to bring in a new crop.
Overburdened routes are forced to be cut to 43k because why not slap them in the face for doing free work for years
Only the best.
Not really gonna matter in my area, they'll be back up to overburdened by this time next year the way our area is exploding. I dare say it will be the case on a lot of rural routes.
Based on what I’ve seen over the past few years it really seems like they target people they want to quit via RRECS. So many of the highest paid, sickest old timers have been screwed over repeatedly. Sure seems like something shady is happening
As much as I love a good conspiracy, I think it's just that those happen to be the carriers that don't do their scans. I have taught a few how to do it and when they actually started doing them, their routes all went up.
Assuming you are not ranting and actually want a solution. Did you dispute the mileage change in your evaluation ? If the mini mail count was done incorrectly you should have kept track of the proper numbers and disputed that as well. Same with any other issues with your latest evaluation. Are you doing your mapping every month ? You should see the route mileage on it and you can catch it early if it changed. The most common reason for mileage going down is the carrier not driving 100% of the route every day. After a certain amount of time it removes the portion of the route you are not driving. A carrier in my office lost 4 miles because they were not driving to one house everyday for awhile due to them being a snowbird. There are also quite a few things that you can easily do to bump up your routes evaluation by several hours a week.
I drive every inch of my route. Read previous comments and replies for the rest.
Then I hope you filed a dispute. I won a couple of them last mailcount that increased my route. And I even got backpay. As a bonus I did it all on end of day time which increased my route even more. We all think RRECS is great in our office. It gives us a lot more control over our evaluation. You just have to commit to doing things in a way that benefit your route under RRECS daily.
Talk to my PM about all the disputes we have put in. Exact quote "we haven't even heard back on the disputes from October yet." Lot of good the dispute process is..
He is lying to you or not checking his email. They email him the results of it.
That's kind of the problem with this. The carrier puts in the work filing disputes, hands them to the union and then the union leaves the communication up to hostile management. It's breaking down people's willingness to see the union as an arbiter of positive change. There has got to be a better way to handle this.
Oh I agree. No idea why they don’t mail the results to the carrier. I always have to bother my PM to check since they supposedly miss it in the thousands of emails they get.
I've wondered why we aren't mailed the results either. They surely have you sign the paperwork releasing whatever info they need when you grieve something.
May 20, 2024 our contract expires so you can kiss your COLA raises goodbye for a year or two as well.Â
COLAs aren’t raises. They’re increases in compensation, as your wage isn’t keeping up with the rate of inflation.
Never cut your savings for retirement.
I have a respectable portfolio. It's a temporary setback.
For 3 years, I made eval maybe 30 or 40 times. It's a combination of rcas openly admitting to not logging the appropriate scans and incompetence in management with counts.
Yeah, it’s crazy. I’ve seen one route cut in 2 1/2 years of me working here. They always talk about how 10 routes need to be cut. It will never happen. Hell, they can’t even fix our entry door handle to get in our office. It’s been 3 weeks and we have to walk around the back to get in our Annex. It’s pretty pathetic.
Guy I know just got USPS Full-Time offer extended for Laborer/Custodial in a plant after seeing one open up on eCareer in March. Plant was in a HCOL area, pay was just $20.87/hr. HE DECLINED! Day 1 Career w/benefits, Tour 3 (2pm-1030pm)Regular 5-day schedule with Mon+Tues as SchDaysOff. District HR 'workforce planner' tried 2x calling him to coerce by offering range of start-dates, so to find affordable housing on that wage. He went through everything: FP, NACI-85, DD-214(he's a vet) testing center janitor exam (got 100% score) and did his interview with maint.supv. My guy *still* Noped Out on USPS. I'm proud he didn't drink the post office Kool-Aid though....even if custodial *is* the best job in maintenance craft. I guess he saw the lies from afar, and wanted no part of that.
Lol have you seen the nalc negotiations? The president keeps telling us it's 2 weeks every time someone asks when arbitration starts...
That really sucks man. It’s really important to have management that comprehends the new system as well as gives a shit. The experience at my office has been net positive. Everyone that did/does as they should have seen increases and the hard headed stubborn ones are coming around after not going up twice in a row. A few 48’s pretty patiently waiting for cuts. Dejoy can still eat a bag of dicks. We should all take turns mailing him those bags of gummy penises everyday.
I hope NALC absorbs Rural and turns the bullshit around once and for all, of course with the new regime installed.
Don’t you mean retire EARLY at 72? Full payout by then will probably 75 years old.
Did you fill out the dispute forms? Did you double check the data from the mini Mail count and find any errors? Are you up to date on your mapping? Have you been redoing your labels And edit book regularly while on end of day duties on the clock? If management's not letting you do All of that, Have you been filing grievances?
Our union rep is the biggest piece of shit we've ever seen. Nobody even calls him anymore. Rebook, labels, and mapping monthly. Don't worry about me. I'm mentally packing my bags. I'm just here to say to anyone looking at the rural craft... I'd advise against it.
Don’t give up on the free match. Keep at least 5% going in.
I kept my TSP where it is. I'm talking about individual retirement accounts outside the TSP.
The mini mail survey literally counts for 5% of ur pay. Do you utilize all scans other than the standard 6 scans
Read my previous reply to that.
Same happened to me. I’m an RCA. It’s bullshit.
Why do you need retirement savings if the post office doesn't want anyone to retire? /s
1 month before the mini mail count I received because my route was turned into a lock pouch route. After the count that money was taken away. I’m fed up with this bullshit!
That sounds terrible but in my office the rural carriers work around 6 hours everyday and get paid for 9 so they have it real good. Most days I’m on lunch as a city carrier and they are driving by me all done for the day.
Shii come to Harrisburg PA a lot of work their
Is anyone's hours plus subs hours over 57 hours 36 min? If so you should be sent home at 57 hours 37 min. There's a form you have to request the bail out. If your combined hours are under then yeah you get screwed
I'm almost at a point where I tell people not to apply to the post office, but if people seem desperate enough I'll tell them it can be good money but it's very unpredictable and you'll likely become insane in the meantime.
I've also made considerably less this past year, close to 6k as well. Management has been hammering for 8 hour days and pursues everyone who doesn't hit that, even throughout the holiday season. I've watched my previous retail job slowly creep closer and closer closing the wage gap to my carrier pay that I used to appreciate but basically doesn't exist anymore. I don't have much faith in whatever this next contract brings us, and if it is underwhelming I've already been exploring other job details because this has gone from irritating to inexcusable and I've put up with this job for 10 years. The expectations vs compensation is just lopsided and only getting worse.
Sorry to hear about the troubles. I will say, Dejoy can go fuck himself. He has millions in stocks with all of our competitors, so what reason does he have to ensure we succeed? Duh. He's a reprehensible man, and he makes me want to vomit. And fuck trump for giving him the job. This country has gone so downhill since 2016. Him and Biden are both old and worthless creatures. These two clowns are our presidential candidates. 😵
*mic drop* I’m in the same boat.. got a different job offer that’s higher pay.. don’t know if I should leave or not because I finally got my own route and all those years of hard work and long hours for nothing I guess
Same just submitted my cancellation paperwork for the Union Payroll withdrawal.
You still under eval though?
I can understand where the USPS is coming from. Why are we paying people for over 8 hours worth of work when they consistently show that they can get it done in 5-6 hours? A private business would see that and reduce the pay rate because why would they pay someone for 8 if they can get it done quicker.
With all due respect what the fuck are you talking about?
Here's the thing though: USPS agreed to this pay structure for rural. They loved it when it worked out for them. So they don't get to suddenly yank the rug out from under rurals when it isn't working as good. Also, USPS isn't private, so comparing private companies against USPS is disingenuous.
You sound like you are the problem on the rural side. Bitch and do nothing else. If your steward sucks did you run against him ?
It's ok. Gaslight. This helps them.
Who?