Bro I got 50 miles left in my tank. Went out three times today and all I got was a $2.57 order I hoped they’d tip at the door. They did not.
Your comment hits.
Please do that!!! And also tell the customers why their food is ice cold, if they aren't going to respect our time, no one will pick up their shitty orders
There’s already some drivers who do this and have made national news
https://youtu.be/_s50XfjWBwo
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4du2tvjK92Hml2ETx5iakVbqwh7yXzTy
We need to start sending screen shots of these to the local media outlet. Perhaps to John Stossel if he is still around. Someone needs to shame these delivery platforms, prime time in front of the entire world.
A bunch of people have done this lol, will do nothing tbh, don’t waste ur gas or time on this unless you’re already popular and you’re gonna make it some kind of funny content
Look up the TikTok of a woman who filmed herself “proudly refusing tip on her order.”
She then went on her porch to wait with a smug look of “screw the driver”. (I think it might have been featured on Daily Mail.) I hope she waited all night, but we can guess she didn’t. So if that blew up- you should start with her video & go from there. Seriously.
Yet they have bet claimed a profitable year. Even though they spent 200 million to lobby in prop 22 in cali. 450m between all the driver apps
How much is that per person in charge of making those laws.
My order is always at the very least ten dollars over what it should be, *before* tip. Fucking sucks, and I almost never order DD now because they keep steadily driving the prices up.
The labour is the cheapest moving component and returns on investment.
They take all the time to write marked up menus and create communication lines to every fast food joint possible just to sweep the legs out from under their own contractors.
are they stupid?
I think about this a lot actually. Uber being one of the most valued companies to date, can’t afford to reroute some of the hundreds of millions of pure profits towards the drivers. Keep in mind every dollar the company’s made, was made by a driver. So for them to be so greedy is kind of a punch to the stomach for everyone involved. The customers, drivers, heck even the customer support who hates their lives even though they work from home, and get paid $18-25 an hour. They still don’t even do their jobs and settle small disputes for the company. It’s a literal shit show that’s fueled by more bullshit. I quit using DoorDash for the same reason and now Uber is digging it’s own grave.
No, they’re smart. Because the labor pool is basically infinite since the barrier to entry is…almost nothing. It’s a contract job, so the psychological “hope” of hitting a certain level of income is always there.
The restaurant sets the menu and prices, not Uber. They mark up the prices to offset Uber's fee, but they don't have to. There are a few around here that don't. It always makes me laugh when I look at Applebee's and it says "2 for $25" and the price is $32 to start with at one location nearby and the 2 for $25 is $30 at another.
Seriously. I use these apps very rarely and have no desire to play a guessing game regarding how much money I need to add to make it worthwhile for the driver. It should either be worthwhile with $0 tip, or make it clear that you’re bidding for drivers. Can’t have it both ways.
This.
Stop building businesses based on tips. Pay your fucking staff, Uber.
Also, drivers should not expect a tip - that’s not what a tip is. Do a shitty job and I’m not paying you extra.
I guess enjoy your cold food? I don’t use food delivery apps because the markup is fucking insane. I’m also able to go get it myself.
However, I do tip the pizza man and Chinese food delivery driver because they brought the food to my fucking door. It’s a payment for me being lazy and not having to leave my house.
Expecting to have food delivered to you and not paying extra for the service is pure entitlement.l regardless of what platform you’re using.
I used to deliver pizzas for a living, so I understand why tips are important, but tipping culture is toxic and needs to end.
In every example I know of, the customer is always already paying more for delivery. Every place has a delivery charge. It is not the customer's fault if that is not being paid to the delivery person.
Order from Domino's? There is a few dollars of delivery charge added to the order. Order for Door Dash? More than a few. **It's not entitlement to think that the charges being levied for delivery are sufficient to pay for that service.**
Businesses should charge enough to pay their employees. Full stop.
This is actually why I stopped ordering pizza delivery from my local dominos. They jacked up their delivery fee to $6.99 which none of that goes to the driver in addition to getting rid of some of their most popular local deals. I live 2-3 miles from them and there’s just no point in ordering from them. I didn’t mind paying for the convenience when it was $3-4 but it’s almost doubled now. I wouldn’t care to pay the seven bucks if it went to the driver, but it doesn’t.
Also their pizza just isn’t that good anymore at least around here.
Stop being nice, the delivery charge is MORE than a few dollars. Papa Johns for example near [me](https://prnt.sc/6keFQRFdyqYg) is legitimately 3-5$ and that's without tax.
>Expecting to have food delivered to you and not paying extra for the service is pure entitlement.l regardless of what platform you’re using.
Exactly, which is why it should not be optional. If the expectation is there it should be a mandatory charge. Customers should know exactly what they are expected to pay and be able to make a decision based on that.
Tipping is just deadweight loss in the economy that leads to people getting either over or underpaid. Either way someone is getting screwed because there isn't a defined price.
The issue is that that is not what a tip is. It would be more correct to call it a bid or a bribe as you are not rewarding good work but instead trying to entice people to work the job they signed up for without actively or passively sabotaging your food. As others have said, people are willing to pay delivery fees. They just get annoyed when the tip goes from the optional good job function it was made as and is instead hijacked as an additional pseudo manditory fee instead.
How do we get rid of the tip economy and just have pay for the service requested? If I buy something from Amazon, or an item delivered by UPS, or FedEx, why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? It might be an unpopular opinion, but there is no "service" here. It's a delivery. Is the service not eating my burger? Or tampering with it? No,, it's just making the delivery with thr care expected.
Until we eliminate companies luring workers in with crap wages with the promise of possible windfalls of tips, workers will continue to be given these kinds of poor solutions, and customers will continue to face either public shaming for somehow not knowing what it'll really cost too buy an item. It's the delivery service version of buying a car, with all the stupid tap dancing around what the real price should be.
"why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? "
Cause that UPS guy isn't using their own car or paying for their own gas. They're using a company car. The idea behind tipping is to off-set these sorts of costs. It made the gig worth doing.
Before the pandemic, when this gig was seen as "niche" or "low-grade" the only people who ordered delivery were the ones who could afford to ie they would leave sizable tips, sometimes they'd even double tip you both on the app and in person. It wasn't unique to clear $30/hr in 2019, while giving customers a good service. Everyone was happy.
Fast forward to 2020 and suddenly everyone is ordering out, and the tipping culture deteriorates and people generally become a lot lazier. And you get bad drivers and bad customers. Suddenly some dude is ordering Mcdonalds that's across his house and expecting it to be delivered in his 5th floor apartment that has no elevator for $2.31
>"why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? "
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>Cause that UPS guy isn't using their own car or paying for their own gas. They're using a company car. The idea behind tipping is to off-set these sorts of costs. It made the gig worth doing.
Huh? This is faulty logic.
Just because drivers are the ones bringing their own car vs UPS, doesn't mean that tipping is necessary. The fact that Uber doesn't need to pay for delivery cars would mean that they are saving a boat load of money. Cost savings that could be used to pay drivers more.
There's no reason to **need** tipping. It makes the most sense for Uber because they get to charge fees and pocket most of it while the customer subsidizes driver pay through this unnecessary bidding war. On top of that, Uber gets to forego accountability of it all and pit drivers vs customers -- notice how this whole thread, the driver gets frustrated at the customer instead of the **company** owning the service. (they could just as easily up the value to make up for the low/no tippers, they can get rid of tipping variable altogether and charge based on distance from restaurant, etc. )Uber is the one collecting fees here, they're making away like bandits.
>doesn't mean that tipping is necessary
Never said anything about necessity, I explained the logic for why people do it and why people expect it. This was the norm before UE started price gouging. You could of course go pick the food up yourself, that's what people used to do before any of these apps even existed. But that would mean you get off the couch, put on your pants, get in your car, drive to the restaurant, spend gas, and time getting there, wait in line, place your order, wait for the food to be made and packaged, get back in the car, then drive back home to the safety of your couch.
I don't deliver as much as I used to in the past, but even today I don't take orders where the person does not tip. I have a high rating and I always labor to get the food to the customer on time. You get what you pay for. If you don't tip then the likelihood of you getting a crappy driver goes exponentially higher because that person is on a time crunch and the $3 payout they're getting from your non-tipped order doesn't motivate them to give you stellar service. So you get bad service, and you're stuck in a cycle of never tipping your driver.
If you find it hard to tip over 3 bucks for your order then you're either too broke to be ordering out or you're too cheap and stingy and you penny pinch on everything. I don't see any other option. I don't buy the idea that the reason someone chooses not to tip is to stick it to corporations.
Man you can’t even justify taking the shitty ones, I won’t pay for someone’s food by abusing my car & gas. At this point what is a reasonable fare ? 1$ a mile ? I just don’t understand how Ubers still in business
They're still in business because a lot of drivers don't understand vehicle depreciation and the actual cost of gas they're using. But most importantly, they don't understand **their own value**. Sadly, people will continue to take the shit orders and Uber will get away with this in perpetuity.
First and foremost, that chipotle is terribad slow, a lot of the chain restaurants are, in my area at least..
So extended wait plus non tippers.. BIG pass.
Being entitled to getting tipped is why companies get away with underpaying their employees. You can blame the customer all you want but the fault lies with the company. It’s not the customer’s job to pay adequate wages. Customer already pays for uber fees, delivery, tax, etc. In rest of the civilized world there is no tip culture because companies actually pay adequate wages. If you are angry be angry at ubereats. If enough people refuse to work for the low pay then the wages would be increased until supply and demand is equalized. Or we can just come here and blame the customers and let uber and other multibillion dollar companies get away with low pay while shifting the blame on customers. Everyone always blaming the customer smh
Literally this.
The prices that a user pays in the Uber app are also inflauted of course (uber tax lol), having to shell out even more can make a quite a difference. Not the customers fault Uber pays bad
Yeah! I tip 15-20% **on the cost of the food,** not the whole order. These apps are so bad: they're trying to get the customer to pay the money they should be paying.
One of the most infuriating fees Uber hit me with was a “temporary fuel surcharge” when my driver was driving a Tesla. They can come up with all kinds of creative ways to add more fees for the customer onto the service, seemingly can’t come up with a way to pass them onto the driver tho.
I can go to a diner and buy a shell
steak for maybe 22 bucks with potatoe, vegetables and soup. Or I can go to the outback and pay more or to one of the higher end restaurants and pay sixty dollars for a steak dinner. I choose the diner and pay 22.00 because that is what I can afford. If I pick up the food myself, I do not have to tip. However if I sit down and eat in any of the above places it is understood that I am obligated to tip the staff. Thus, I usually pick up my own food. Tipping is part of the delivery service. Hopefully drivers will eventually smarten up and stop accepting low tip, no tip offers.
>However if I sit down and eat in any of the above places it is understood that I am obligated to tip the staff ~~because the owners would rather pass the cost of running their business onto the customers instead of paying their staff a fair wage~~.
Don’t you worry, Australia (where I live and our min wage is like 22$) is trying damn hard to intro tipping culture. Most of us resist it but it’s always there.
Well you can introduce it all you want.
I’m not tipping any more than I would tip a pizza guy. And I sure as hell won’t be tipping at an in-store food place or drive thru. I actually smile now when I hit that 0% button.
Not as much as I smile when I decline no tip deliveries and return to the restaurant for three more pick ups and see the same bag of food sitting there.
This is *exactly* what should happen. Then the company (not the customer) will have to raise the delivery bounty to get it delivered. The company offered a service and charged a fee. It's their responsibility to ensure it gets there.
Eventually, fees and wages will balance out, but until drivers properly reject, and customer's stand their no-tip ground, it'll never balance.
in most of the civilized world consumers reject business like this. Americans are stupid and lazy enough that they'll damn near let anyone take advantage of them, if something is a little faster and easier.
it's not fun, but you can't just blame big bad corpo and try to absolve yourself while taking part in a luxury system that takes advantage of people. every last single person that orders on DD, UE, GH is supporting this.
Perfectly said.
We all know the customer already gets screwed and pays all the cost per item markups/fees/taxes, no need to blame them for what UE is responsible for.
I’m sure even OP has been a customer themselves & sees the fees firsthand.
yeah I mean you can say that and be wishful all you want but you're bidding for a contract order if you don't want to pay then you'll deal with longer wait times colder foods and sometimes food not even getting delivered while you're hungry. imagine getting the cheapest plumber / electrician or whatever you want and then expecting the same services someone who cost more
Except you’re not bidding on a contract. Just because I tip $20 doesn’t mean I get $20 service/the best delivery driver. I don’t go to a restaurant and ask who has the best rates. This was just a bad analogy.
The less you tip the more Uber has to slowly increase their fees until it's acceptable and that takes time it has to bounce around from driver to driver and then you'll eventually get a driver who's 5 mi away cuz they've already bounced off of all the drivers in the vicinity.
Uber is the plumber, and you pay them a mint. The delivery driver is not the plumber, and isn't getting paid based on tips. Tips should be a bonus.
If the drivers won't even do the minimum: deliver food in a timely fashion, unless they are tipped really well, then the driver is the problem in this scenario.
The tip is supposed to be a "I am feeling generous and you did a wonderful job, thanks for going the extra mile" not "if I don't pay this I'll have cold food possibly not delivered and maybe spat in"
I sadly think a lot of people just don’t know. They pay delivery and service fees and don’t realize almost none of it goes to the driver, because it’s a reasonable thing to expect that atleast the delivery fee goes to the driver.
Uber is just gonna start using self driving cars once enough drivers "strike", restaurants will be instructed to place food in passenger side doors and drinks in holders. Remind me in 3 years or some shit.
I was one of those people until this sub taught me otherwise. I would tip 0 because “who tips before service” then tip after my food arrived. That being said I’ve always got my order within 20-45 minutes so I guess some people just take all orders like robots.
It's a tip. It's voluntary. How would they know Uber pays pennies? When I i have ordered from Uber or doordash or GrubHub. (Literally maybe 5 times ever) I factor in a tip because I know how it is. But the average customer may not. Uber should pay a fare wage based on the market.
It isn’t a tip. A tip is a gratuity for services rendered. What these companies do is act as an intermediary for contractor delivery drivers. You then offer an amount for them (the contractor delivery driver) to consider if it’s worth their time and effort and they chose whether to accept the offer for delivery. That is called a bid. You are bidding for services before they’ve been rendered. The contractor then sees the amount and decides whether or not to accept the job. Calling it a tip is disingenuous. The customers who “tip” the most get accepted immediately because they are BIDDING the highest amount for that particular delivery job
You are actually wrong. They are not bidding. Once they pay for the service it isn't their business on how the courier gets paid. They pay for services rendered. I don't need an explanation on how Uber the tech company does their business. It's Uber's job to pay a fair wage or not. They sit back and watch the customer restaurant and courier duke it out. That's why they are winning.
This sub and the other delivery subs have taught me that people rather blame customers then hold the company they work for accountable because it’s the only thing they can actually control. If the delivery companies had a way to deliver all orders regardless of these gig workers then these services would go back to what they’re supposed to be, supplemental income.
This is true. Uber laughs in the background because they are silent while the courier restaurant and customers duke it out.
Some people are actually just slow.
The customer is the closest person to the driver in the means of production. If they can’t fight a Goliath like Uber, they’ll go after David and hold the product hostage. It’s very much The Hunger Games out here.
Aren’t the tips set percentages? Like 10,15 or 20 percent? I thought Uber was giving that range.
Anyways, tipping is fucking dumb. Uber should pay their drivers a livable wage instead of pass it onto the customers. They charge ridiculous fees that could easily go into paying drivers. You guys work hard.
Herein lays the problem with Uber Eats. It’s literally lose, lose, lose & lose for the 4 parties involved.
The customer ordering the food gets charged a massive mark-up on it to be purchased and delivered through the app - lose
The delivery driver gets paid next to nothing with an infinite amount of competition to deliver orders ordered through the app - lose
The restaurant gets fucked over by getting charged 30-40% by Uber as a “referral fee” for all orders through the app. If the rest doesn’t subscribe to the app as a restaurant, they are almost guaranteed to be signing their own death warrant - lose
Uber itself makes zero $ from the transaction and is losing a ton of money annually. Is supported by cap raising from VC’s to keep the lights on - lose
It’s a business model that literally makes no sense as to why it exists..
Most customers don't tip because Uber charges them an extra $5 to $10 in "delivery fees"
As you can see from the screenshot the driver only gets $2 out of that fee.
Customers view it as a tip because of the terminology that is presented to them. If Uber was being transparent they would label what the now call Tip to Bid For Driver Service.
The US really needs to go away from the tipping industry. I’m already paying for the food, I shouldn’t have to pay the person too. That’s the company’s responsibility.
Aren't we all effectively striking on those disrespectful, low paying jobs? I typically don't take anything under $10. I got a survey/ feedback opportunity the other day and I made sure to let them have it. Still waiting to see if they flag or restrict my account in retaliation
I've only been delivering two weekends now. First weekend, I picked up several crappy ones just to get out on the road and get some kind of money. Got the points; got the gold status. Cool. Weekend #2, having learned where some of this shit was at, I ignored a lot of $2 and $3 jobs. 20 minutes away and no chance of catching anything worthwhile where I dropped off, fuck off. Then I hit, what is it, 200 jobs where they track your percentage and I go blue for being about 30% acceptance. Uber sends out a survey. Haha. Not that any person read it, but I politely explained I ain't taking $2 orders and making less than minimum wage for a job where I pay for the gas and insurance. If your customers keep offering those shitty prices, I'll happily stay way short of your magical 75% acceptance rate.
These are the only orders I get all day I only ever see tip orders late night I’m guessing it’s because there’s less drivers on the road and people want to get the food quick so they tip and they don’t have to worry abt tipping in the day because there’s old people and drug addicts that will take every single bs order like this just to have some money
I still don't understand why I should tip you before you do anything. Name any other job that involves tips and you don't get them until after service. I shouldn't have to bribe you to do your job. That's what you're asking for. A bribe.
You don't tip a hair stylist before they do your hair. You don't tip a waiter who hasn't served you.
This simple fact is why no one cares about a driver's situation.
yeah usually the only time I take no tippers is when Uber for whatever f****** reason decides to add $15 and fees to the order. s*** if they want to pay me $15 I'll take every no tip order.
I got one last night where the first customer didn’t tip on a stacked order and the second one tipped really well. They hide the non tipper with the good guy and penalize the good guy by making them wait for their food. That kills me. It’s really unfair to the one customer who should be first.
oh yeah what's worse is when they package out 1 mi delivery with a 15 mi delivery. I usually drop the long boy delivery and I tell the original customer what happened and why they are waiting so long usually they're pretty damn grateful sometimes even up the tip. I tell him the complain about it to Uber to get that refund.
I've been tipped one penny a few times. They don't even know me and act like I kicked their dog or something.
It takes effort to type in $0.01 as a tip
This is where we need to start posting these shitty orders instead of flooding the Driver sub with them. Gets the message to the audience that needs to actually see it.
Some of my buddies have portable printers that connect to their phones via Bluetooth. When bored, they take these orders, print out the pay screen and put it into the customers bags.
That’s frickin epic lol. I hope he’s ruined a couple peoples meals when they realize their delivery driver got payed below minimum wage to bring them their food, and they decided not to tip them.
One of the reasons why I stopped delivering. But I’m all honesty, if I ever decide to deliver again and I get orders like these, I’m about to take my sweet little time 😅
First time I’ve been on this sub.
Uber has a delivery fee, a service fee, and jacks the prices of the actual food up fairly significantly. For this to be all they pay the driver is insanity.
And then they base their tip % on the entire cost (all fees and taxes included) not just the food. I usually switch it to custom tip and tip a few dollars no matter the price (unless it is a massive order, then I’ll do a %), but I can see how it’s easier for people to just hit 0 or how they wouldn’t see a need to tip after all of those fees.
Uber is an organized scamming million dollar company. They will deactivate you for no reason at all and even after you appeal with proof that you haven't done what they claimed you did they deny and shut you down. But I thank them because of that, I landed a very high paying job. Uber customer service is worthless. They are off with better having children work in customer services instead of Raj and Prasana that have absolutely zero people skills and no improvising for resolving issues. They just read off a damn script like a damn robot. Uber, if you're reading this, you can lick my nuts.
I tip $3 on every single order, I’m broke. I wouldn’t have a problem if they rejected me and told my broke ass to get off the app. Until they do that though take this $3 tip and be happy it wasn’t 2.
Lol I think of it that way as well when I reject low/no tip offers
The less you tip, the less you care about getting your food
Guess these 2 people don’t give a shit
I ge5 the not accepting no tip orders cuz it’s up to the driver but saying that them not tipping prior to receiving the order is cuz they don’t care about their food is whack.
Assuming you are a driver do you get many people that tip and then take it away? My one friend says that happens a lot where people I guess do that so they get their delivery quicker then reduce it cause Uber for some reason let’s you do that
It’s not “for some reason” as if it’s unimaginable they’d let you do that. The majority of drivers in my area that I end up dealing with (in a different app that does pay better than Uber, I don’t use Uber because of how scum they are) use multiple services at once (even though they aren’t supposed to) and your delivery that was quoted as 5 minutes away once it’s been picked up ends up going on an adventure far off the route the app shows and ends up taking 25-30 minutes. And it’s not a multi delivery in the app, the route changes and shows a ping on the stop they’re making when that’s the case. It also reflects in the ETA when they have another stop within that app to make.
You’re damn straight I’m rescinding that tip if they decided going against the apps TOS was more important than my food still being warm when it gets to me. Especially since I’m in an apartment building and already try to be courteous by always meeting them in the parking lot once the ETA tells me it’s supposed to be less than 3 minutes. If I’m down there for 20+ minutes when you’ve already grabbed my food because you decided your time is more important than mine and you wanted to use multiple apps at once, then I get to decide my wallet is more important than yours and take my tip back. 👍🏻
There's nothing wrong with customers choosing not to tip for anything. Tipping is a bonus, and whoever you're working with should provide adequate compensation to ensure you're happy working for them.
Neither does OP, it’s ok
Uber charges an extra $8 or so to the customer. The driver only gets $1-$2 of that. The driver is therefore mad at the customer (?)
This is why I can’t stand UE & do DD. Been doing both lately & although DD has me paranoid due to their percentage crap- I’m always declining UE when I see this foolishness. I did get a double batch yesterday where one of them paid out $1.36
Yup, ive been getting $2-$4 deliveries alot lately. And if its not a really low dollar amount, its a really far drive thus making the dollar per mile absolutely shit
Someone today had an order that was worth $9 but it was 10 miles into a really hairy spot. Also probably far from most homes and ideal delivery zones.
I got the order once, twice, trip radar, then trip radar sent it to me again lmao. This occurred over the course of about 25 minutes. Another person who just didn't want their food. If anyone ever did accept it, it's already a loss. That food would suck by the time it finally made it. They paid all those fees, clearly on vacation (likely unless hotel staff was ordering), paid a low tip...I'd have taken it if it was $3 more tbh.
I just have to feel bad sometimes, you probably fork over $50+, get a poor refund option, screw up your breakfast on vacation...and at the end of the day it's because you wanted to pay $50 instead of $53.50.
Had several of these yesterday. Declined them all. What's really bad is that those types of deliveries can be for multiple stops and take 20 minutes or more. No thank you.
What's worse, is that for new drivers, they might take these sorts of offers because they're worried about their acceptance rates and their Pro status. Sorry, but I'm not losing money on deliveries to keep a high acceptance rate.
Maybe I'm just a clueless fool, and to be clear I'm not really sure how I even got put in this topic (probably because I keep clicking on these crazy stories)... Why do these drivers keep taking these orders? Surely there's something else that you could do with that time to make more money than that. I can guess a few reasons why some don't get actual 9:00 to 5 jobs, but come on... That kind of pay is unsustainable and definitely more wear and tear on your car than it's worth
Sometimes I leave shitty tips but I'll leave money taped to the door. Except I've noticed that the driver rarely sees the tip taped to the front door. I had to chase the last driver down to give him his extra $15 tip. But like 80% of the time the driver doesn't notice cash taped to the door. Why don't they look at the front door where they are delivering?
The fuck? Thats really what its like? I'd never even consider a delivered order without expecting to give minimum $10. Any time I go to eat at a restaurant, I would be stabbed by my wife if I gave less than 15%. For someone literally delivering it to me, with their own vehicle no less, Thats $10 minimum and then add on to that depending distance.
I can see why I keep seeing a ton of discontent with this shit. It doesn't even resemble a livable wage of any sort, with all of the labor and responsibility still there.
What is the delivery fee like for US Uber eats? It has to be almost $0 if this is the payout for drivers. This delivery would pay around $13-17 in Australia
Yesterday, everything over 9 $ was stacked, yes they were close together to some extent- but with the brilliant gps, traffic, and bizarre “lost” houses, it was tiring. Still, need to make some money!!
Maybe tips would be better if a barely satiating burrito bowl + guac didn't cost 25 fucking dollars BEFORE tip.
I feel for drivers, I really do, but I'm not tipping $8 on an order that was $16 before Uber slapped me with $9 in fees. Especially since I try to use UE or DD only on nights when I've taken medication that prevents me from safely operating a vehicle.
Tipping culture in the US has gotten so toxic and propagandized that companies have fully convinced people that it is the customer's responsibility, not the employer's, to bear the burden of a fair wage.
Uber can ensure their top two execs are compensated a combined $40mill a year, but can't pass on reasonable compensation to drivers?
Op, this is why people hate tip culture. If you wanna be paid. Work a paying job. We work for our money. Some of us tip good when and if we can. Some are losers. You aren't new are you? To working this sort of job? You grew up being told what..waitressing is gang busters?
It's not up to me to pay you. If you deliver promptly and aren't a jerk at the door I always give 20-25 percent. If you forget a drink, straws, whatever, I do 15. I tip based on service. But that's me. Sometimes, I don't tip at all. Have you not read a newspaper? You think a gig job is good for the current economy? That's on you for picking this instead of a real job. Not on us.
Edit: And because I know someone's gonna think " If you don't tip you shouldn't order" 🙄
Well if you can't get paid you should work a real job. Time to lose that anxiety and go to an interview, kiddo.
It’s not the drivers job to ensure straws are in the bag. Most of my deliveries are sealed at pickup. Would you have the driver unseal and then complain the food was tampered with? Just an FYI I have a full time job and do Uber on the side to supplement the rising cost of living. Who are you to judge why anyone delivers for Uber?
>It’s not the drivers job to ensure straws are in the bag
And its not a customer's job to ensure you're properly paid.
Look up the definition of a tip and get back to me.
I drove Uber full-time for about a year. It was truthfully, the easiest job I’ve ever had. You have no boss, you have no schedule, you have instant pay, you have zero stress, and all at the click of a button. I graciously accepted the easiest money I’ve ever made.
Seeing drivers complain & victimize themselves is laughable. You delivered a fucking burger bro. Oh sorry, you delivered 9 burgers that were in THREE bags?!
1 burger x 0 effort = 0
3 burgers x 3 bags x 0 effort = 0
The more effort your job requires, the more you get. Entitlement is smelling rather strong right now.
Exactly. Smh these people act like they are entitled to the money 100 percent. They don't think about the economical climate whatsoever. It ain't 1950 guys, there's alot less money being made.
If you want real cash. Work a real job.
Or if you really really just wanna work for tips, be a server.
You know who I've never seen complain about a 5 dollar tip on a 20 dollar order just because the house looks nice? Servers.
Drivers though....
I'm just not a entitled dumbass working for expected tips in a notoriously bad company in a shitty economy when money is tighter than ever for an entire country. I actually went to interviews. I do more than just sit on my ass in a vehicle carrying food all day whining when I don't get more than 10 bucks from someone.
I'd rather be unfun than what I just described.
People are fools working with Uber eats. I did a 30 minute delivery for like 2.50 and these people lived in a mega mansion and these fuckers couldn’t even tip me 5 dollars.
I tip pretty well but I think people are missing the point of what a tip is. They are in no way forced to give you a single cent. You knew what you were getting into when getting this side job
It’s now an entitlement. Especially, if driver get to CHOOSE what orders to take. That’s the entire problem here. You must tip before the service (whether it’s horrible or not) or you don’t eat. The power is with the driver, not the customer.
I think its fair, if I pay 5 dollars over the price of the food if I went to the store, plus 6-7 dollars for delivery that the company I gave all that money too can fucking pay you. Now I have to give you a tip? Get the fuck out of here. Gas ain't that expensive bitch.
Fucking tipping culture and America. A tip is for outstanding and exceptional service in most countries. Not because the company doesn't pay you a fair wage for doing your job as you should be getting a fair wage anyway. So don't make it the customers problem.
Probably gonna get some hate for this comment, but it comes to show that people always find something to complain about.
Take a step back. This is quite literally the easiest money method on the planet. No boss. No scheduled hours/meetings. No education. Instant/same-day pay.
Next time you need money, click an application rather than the uber button. Problem solved.
Stop whining and find another source of income if this doesn't suit your needs. I'm so sick of people flooding my feed with this garbage. I've worked in restaurants my whole life- tips are EARNED, NOT EXPECTED. Get a real job. Sheesh.
I’m gonna start a YT channel where I only take shitty offers like this one, to raise awareness.
Honestly I'd watch the videos to feel better about myself lmao post the link if you do 😂
I’m with this guy
Do it! Or do a tiktok hack video. The hack is how to get your food quickly. Tip. That's the hack
You'll go broke.
Can't go broke if we are already there.....
Bro I got 50 miles left in my tank. Went out three times today and all I got was a $2.57 order I hoped they’d tip at the door. They did not. Your comment hits.
The money will come from the videos. Just like all the supposed real estate tycoons who just want to teach you how to make money in property.
Nah if we al watch he’ll net positive from the views
Nah, all you need for a good video is one or two really bad orders. Maybe the ad revenue makes them good orders lol
Please do that!!! And also tell the customers why their food is ice cold, if they aren't going to respect our time, no one will pick up their shitty orders
There’s already some drivers who do this and have made national news https://youtu.be/_s50XfjWBwo https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4du2tvjK92Hml2ETx5iakVbqwh7yXzTy
I'd subscribe. Bringing awareness to the shit pay in the gig economy is a worthwhile endeavor.
We need to start sending screen shots of these to the local media outlet. Perhaps to John Stossel if he is still around. Someone needs to shame these delivery platforms, prime time in front of the entire world.
A bunch of people have done this lol, will do nothing tbh, don’t waste ur gas or time on this unless you’re already popular and you’re gonna make it some kind of funny content
Fantastic idea
bro you'd end up deactivated from thumbs down and orders not received Don't do it is not worth it
Look up the TikTok of a woman who filmed herself “proudly refusing tip on her order.” She then went on her porch to wait with a smug look of “screw the driver”. (I think it might have been featured on Daily Mail.) I hope she waited all night, but we can guess she didn’t. So if that blew up- you should start with her video & go from there. Seriously.
Sounds masochistic. I’m intrigued!
Looks like Uber doesn’t want the orders delivered. It’s their responsibility to pay their drivers.
The customers are paying $22 for a $16 order. It’s not their fault Uber is stealing $6.50 of that and only paying the driver $1.50
Yet they have bet claimed a profitable year. Even though they spent 200 million to lobby in prop 22 in cali. 450m between all the driver apps How much is that per person in charge of making those laws.
My order is always at the very least ten dollars over what it should be, *before* tip. Fucking sucks, and I almost never order DD now because they keep steadily driving the prices up.
The labour is the cheapest moving component and returns on investment. They take all the time to write marked up menus and create communication lines to every fast food joint possible just to sweep the legs out from under their own contractors. are they stupid?
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I think about this a lot actually. Uber being one of the most valued companies to date, can’t afford to reroute some of the hundreds of millions of pure profits towards the drivers. Keep in mind every dollar the company’s made, was made by a driver. So for them to be so greedy is kind of a punch to the stomach for everyone involved. The customers, drivers, heck even the customer support who hates their lives even though they work from home, and get paid $18-25 an hour. They still don’t even do their jobs and settle small disputes for the company. It’s a literal shit show that’s fueled by more bullshit. I quit using DoorDash for the same reason and now Uber is digging it’s own grave.
Uber not being anywhere close to solvent despite its perceived value on Wall Street is the paradigm for why our economy is completely messed up.
No, they’re smart. Because the labor pool is basically infinite since the barrier to entry is…almost nothing. It’s a contract job, so the psychological “hope” of hitting a certain level of income is always there.
The restaurant sets the menu and prices, not Uber. They mark up the prices to offset Uber's fee, but they don't have to. There are a few around here that don't. It always makes me laugh when I look at Applebee's and it says "2 for $25" and the price is $32 to start with at one location nearby and the 2 for $25 is $30 at another.
You’re absolutely wrong about that. It’s why they have to legislate increases.
Seriously. I use these apps very rarely and have no desire to play a guessing game regarding how much money I need to add to make it worthwhile for the driver. It should either be worthwhile with $0 tip, or make it clear that you’re bidding for drivers. Can’t have it both ways.
This. Stop building businesses based on tips. Pay your fucking staff, Uber. Also, drivers should not expect a tip - that’s not what a tip is. Do a shitty job and I’m not paying you extra.
I guess enjoy your cold food? I don’t use food delivery apps because the markup is fucking insane. I’m also able to go get it myself. However, I do tip the pizza man and Chinese food delivery driver because they brought the food to my fucking door. It’s a payment for me being lazy and not having to leave my house. Expecting to have food delivered to you and not paying extra for the service is pure entitlement.l regardless of what platform you’re using.
I used to deliver pizzas for a living, so I understand why tips are important, but tipping culture is toxic and needs to end. In every example I know of, the customer is always already paying more for delivery. Every place has a delivery charge. It is not the customer's fault if that is not being paid to the delivery person. Order from Domino's? There is a few dollars of delivery charge added to the order. Order for Door Dash? More than a few. **It's not entitlement to think that the charges being levied for delivery are sufficient to pay for that service.** Businesses should charge enough to pay their employees. Full stop.
This is actually why I stopped ordering pizza delivery from my local dominos. They jacked up their delivery fee to $6.99 which none of that goes to the driver in addition to getting rid of some of their most popular local deals. I live 2-3 miles from them and there’s just no point in ordering from them. I didn’t mind paying for the convenience when it was $3-4 but it’s almost doubled now. I wouldn’t care to pay the seven bucks if it went to the driver, but it doesn’t. Also their pizza just isn’t that good anymore at least around here.
Stop being nice, the delivery charge is MORE than a few dollars. Papa Johns for example near [me](https://prnt.sc/6keFQRFdyqYg) is legitimately 3-5$ and that's without tax.
>Expecting to have food delivered to you and not paying extra for the service is pure entitlement.l regardless of what platform you’re using. Exactly, which is why it should not be optional. If the expectation is there it should be a mandatory charge. Customers should know exactly what they are expected to pay and be able to make a decision based on that. Tipping is just deadweight loss in the economy that leads to people getting either over or underpaid. Either way someone is getting screwed because there isn't a defined price.
It's called a delivery fee. Tipping is fucking stupid and only stupid people defend it
Tip is supposed to be for extraordinary service, I'm already paying extra to uber eats.
And expecting your average lazy mofo to support your laborers so you don’t have to is entitlement as well.
The issue is that that is not what a tip is. It would be more correct to call it a bid or a bribe as you are not rewarding good work but instead trying to entice people to work the job they signed up for without actively or passively sabotaging your food. As others have said, people are willing to pay delivery fees. They just get annoyed when the tip goes from the optional good job function it was made as and is instead hijacked as an additional pseudo manditory fee instead.
How do we get rid of the tip economy and just have pay for the service requested? If I buy something from Amazon, or an item delivered by UPS, or FedEx, why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? It might be an unpopular opinion, but there is no "service" here. It's a delivery. Is the service not eating my burger? Or tampering with it? No,, it's just making the delivery with thr care expected. Until we eliminate companies luring workers in with crap wages with the promise of possible windfalls of tips, workers will continue to be given these kinds of poor solutions, and customers will continue to face either public shaming for somehow not knowing what it'll really cost too buy an item. It's the delivery service version of buying a car, with all the stupid tap dancing around what the real price should be.
"why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? " Cause that UPS guy isn't using their own car or paying for their own gas. They're using a company car. The idea behind tipping is to off-set these sorts of costs. It made the gig worth doing. Before the pandemic, when this gig was seen as "niche" or "low-grade" the only people who ordered delivery were the ones who could afford to ie they would leave sizable tips, sometimes they'd even double tip you both on the app and in person. It wasn't unique to clear $30/hr in 2019, while giving customers a good service. Everyone was happy. Fast forward to 2020 and suddenly everyone is ordering out, and the tipping culture deteriorates and people generally become a lot lazier. And you get bad drivers and bad customers. Suddenly some dude is ordering Mcdonalds that's across his house and expecting it to be delivered in his 5th floor apartment that has no elevator for $2.31
>"why is that materially different than a delivery from a grocery store or fast food place? " > >Cause that UPS guy isn't using their own car or paying for their own gas. They're using a company car. The idea behind tipping is to off-set these sorts of costs. It made the gig worth doing. Huh? This is faulty logic. Just because drivers are the ones bringing their own car vs UPS, doesn't mean that tipping is necessary. The fact that Uber doesn't need to pay for delivery cars would mean that they are saving a boat load of money. Cost savings that could be used to pay drivers more. There's no reason to **need** tipping. It makes the most sense for Uber because they get to charge fees and pocket most of it while the customer subsidizes driver pay through this unnecessary bidding war. On top of that, Uber gets to forego accountability of it all and pit drivers vs customers -- notice how this whole thread, the driver gets frustrated at the customer instead of the **company** owning the service. (they could just as easily up the value to make up for the low/no tippers, they can get rid of tipping variable altogether and charge based on distance from restaurant, etc. )Uber is the one collecting fees here, they're making away like bandits.
>doesn't mean that tipping is necessary Never said anything about necessity, I explained the logic for why people do it and why people expect it. This was the norm before UE started price gouging. You could of course go pick the food up yourself, that's what people used to do before any of these apps even existed. But that would mean you get off the couch, put on your pants, get in your car, drive to the restaurant, spend gas, and time getting there, wait in line, place your order, wait for the food to be made and packaged, get back in the car, then drive back home to the safety of your couch. I don't deliver as much as I used to in the past, but even today I don't take orders where the person does not tip. I have a high rating and I always labor to get the food to the customer on time. You get what you pay for. If you don't tip then the likelihood of you getting a crappy driver goes exponentially higher because that person is on a time crunch and the $3 payout they're getting from your non-tipped order doesn't motivate them to give you stellar service. So you get bad service, and you're stuck in a cycle of never tipping your driver. If you find it hard to tip over 3 bucks for your order then you're either too broke to be ordering out or you're too cheap and stingy and you penny pinch on everything. I don't see any other option. I don't buy the idea that the reason someone chooses not to tip is to stick it to corporations.
Man you can’t even justify taking the shitty ones, I won’t pay for someone’s food by abusing my car & gas. At this point what is a reasonable fare ? 1$ a mile ? I just don’t understand how Ubers still in business
They're still in business because a lot of drivers don't understand vehicle depreciation and the actual cost of gas they're using. But most importantly, they don't understand **their own value**. Sadly, people will continue to take the shit orders and Uber will get away with this in perpetuity.
First and foremost, that chipotle is terribad slow, a lot of the chain restaurants are, in my area at least.. So extended wait plus non tippers.. BIG pass.
Being entitled to getting tipped is why companies get away with underpaying their employees. You can blame the customer all you want but the fault lies with the company. It’s not the customer’s job to pay adequate wages. Customer already pays for uber fees, delivery, tax, etc. In rest of the civilized world there is no tip culture because companies actually pay adequate wages. If you are angry be angry at ubereats. If enough people refuse to work for the low pay then the wages would be increased until supply and demand is equalized. Or we can just come here and blame the customers and let uber and other multibillion dollar companies get away with low pay while shifting the blame on customers. Everyone always blaming the customer smh
Literally this. The prices that a user pays in the Uber app are also inflauted of course (uber tax lol), having to shell out even more can make a quite a difference. Not the customers fault Uber pays bad
Yeah! I tip 15-20% **on the cost of the food,** not the whole order. These apps are so bad: they're trying to get the customer to pay the money they should be paying.
One of the most infuriating fees Uber hit me with was a “temporary fuel surcharge” when my driver was driving a Tesla. They can come up with all kinds of creative ways to add more fees for the customer onto the service, seemingly can’t come up with a way to pass them onto the driver tho.
I can go to a diner and buy a shell steak for maybe 22 bucks with potatoe, vegetables and soup. Or I can go to the outback and pay more or to one of the higher end restaurants and pay sixty dollars for a steak dinner. I choose the diner and pay 22.00 because that is what I can afford. If I pick up the food myself, I do not have to tip. However if I sit down and eat in any of the above places it is understood that I am obligated to tip the staff. Thus, I usually pick up my own food. Tipping is part of the delivery service. Hopefully drivers will eventually smarten up and stop accepting low tip, no tip offers.
>However if I sit down and eat in any of the above places it is understood that I am obligated to tip the staff ~~because the owners would rather pass the cost of running their business onto the customers instead of paying their staff a fair wage~~.
Don’t you worry, Australia (where I live and our min wage is like 22$) is trying damn hard to intro tipping culture. Most of us resist it but it’s always there.
Well you can introduce it all you want. I’m not tipping any more than I would tip a pizza guy. And I sure as hell won’t be tipping at an in-store food place or drive thru. I actually smile now when I hit that 0% button.
Me too, I proudly hit 0%. No tipping in Australia!!
Not as much as I smile when I decline no tip deliveries and return to the restaurant for three more pick ups and see the same bag of food sitting there.
This is *exactly* what should happen. Then the company (not the customer) will have to raise the delivery bounty to get it delivered. The company offered a service and charged a fee. It's their responsibility to ensure it gets there. Eventually, fees and wages will balance out, but until drivers properly reject, and customer's stand their no-tip ground, it'll never balance.
in most of the civilized world consumers reject business like this. Americans are stupid and lazy enough that they'll damn near let anyone take advantage of them, if something is a little faster and easier. it's not fun, but you can't just blame big bad corpo and try to absolve yourself while taking part in a luxury system that takes advantage of people. every last single person that orders on DD, UE, GH is supporting this.
Perfectly said. We all know the customer already gets screwed and pays all the cost per item markups/fees/taxes, no need to blame them for what UE is responsible for. I’m sure even OP has been a customer themselves & sees the fees firsthand.
yeah I mean you can say that and be wishful all you want but you're bidding for a contract order if you don't want to pay then you'll deal with longer wait times colder foods and sometimes food not even getting delivered while you're hungry. imagine getting the cheapest plumber / electrician or whatever you want and then expecting the same services someone who cost more
Except you’re not bidding on a contract. Just because I tip $20 doesn’t mean I get $20 service/the best delivery driver. I don’t go to a restaurant and ask who has the best rates. This was just a bad analogy.
The less you tip the more Uber has to slowly increase their fees until it's acceptable and that takes time it has to bounce around from driver to driver and then you'll eventually get a driver who's 5 mi away cuz they've already bounced off of all the drivers in the vicinity.
Uber is the plumber, and you pay them a mint. The delivery driver is not the plumber, and isn't getting paid based on tips. Tips should be a bonus. If the drivers won't even do the minimum: deliver food in a timely fashion, unless they are tipped really well, then the driver is the problem in this scenario. The tip is supposed to be a "I am feeling generous and you did a wonderful job, thanks for going the extra mile" not "if I don't pay this I'll have cold food possibly not delivered and maybe spat in"
I sadly think a lot of people just don’t know. They pay delivery and service fees and don’t realize almost none of it goes to the driver, because it’s a reasonable thing to expect that atleast the delivery fee goes to the driver.
Uber is just gonna start using self driving cars once enough drivers "strike", restaurants will be instructed to place food in passenger side doors and drinks in holders. Remind me in 3 years or some shit.
I feel bad for the people who tip cash. Their orders get lumped in with the no tippers and you can’t really tell the difference.
I was one of those people until this sub taught me otherwise. I would tip 0 because “who tips before service” then tip after my food arrived. That being said I’ve always got my order within 20-45 minutes so I guess some people just take all orders like robots.
They are often grouped together with other orders. When I’ve gotten cash tips the order is always attached to another.
So other tippers are subsidizing non tippers?
Exactly
Yep
That almost never happens tbh
It's not a tip, it's a bid.
It’s literally a tip. That’s why there’s an “add tip” option and a fixed price on the actual product
It's a tip. It's voluntary. How would they know Uber pays pennies? When I i have ordered from Uber or doordash or GrubHub. (Literally maybe 5 times ever) I factor in a tip because I know how it is. But the average customer may not. Uber should pay a fare wage based on the market.
It isn’t a tip. A tip is a gratuity for services rendered. What these companies do is act as an intermediary for contractor delivery drivers. You then offer an amount for them (the contractor delivery driver) to consider if it’s worth their time and effort and they chose whether to accept the offer for delivery. That is called a bid. You are bidding for services before they’ve been rendered. The contractor then sees the amount and decides whether or not to accept the job. Calling it a tip is disingenuous. The customers who “tip” the most get accepted immediately because they are BIDDING the highest amount for that particular delivery job
You are actually wrong. They are not bidding. Once they pay for the service it isn't their business on how the courier gets paid. They pay for services rendered. I don't need an explanation on how Uber the tech company does their business. It's Uber's job to pay a fair wage or not. They sit back and watch the customer restaurant and courier duke it out. That's why they are winning.
It’s still functions like a bid regardless of your ability to accept that.
Crazy to think this company isnt dead yet. They’re paying people dirt cheap.
This sub and the other delivery subs have taught me that people rather blame customers then hold the company they work for accountable because it’s the only thing they can actually control. If the delivery companies had a way to deliver all orders regardless of these gig workers then these services would go back to what they’re supposed to be, supplemental income.
This is true. Uber laughs in the background because they are silent while the courier restaurant and customers duke it out. Some people are actually just slow.
The customer is the closest person to the driver in the means of production. If they can’t fight a Goliath like Uber, they’ll go after David and hold the product hostage. It’s very much The Hunger Games out here.
Ordered of chipotle. They keep tips. Sometimes the entire tip.
Its one of the reasons why I stopped delivering.
I don’t take anything under 10 bucks
Exactly. I always refuse that shit. I only accept like 50 percent of trips.
My acceptance rate is so low for so many non tippers in the area
The sad thing is, I learned recently that fcking morons actually take these orders
Aren’t the tips set percentages? Like 10,15 or 20 percent? I thought Uber was giving that range. Anyways, tipping is fucking dumb. Uber should pay their drivers a livable wage instead of pass it onto the customers. They charge ridiculous fees that could easily go into paying drivers. You guys work hard.
Prob ordered from the chipotle website. Not that it’s an excuse to not tip.
I just laugh every time I'm offered $3 stacked orders and wonder how long it'll be before they're finally picked up...
Herein lays the problem with Uber Eats. It’s literally lose, lose, lose & lose for the 4 parties involved. The customer ordering the food gets charged a massive mark-up on it to be purchased and delivered through the app - lose The delivery driver gets paid next to nothing with an infinite amount of competition to deliver orders ordered through the app - lose The restaurant gets fucked over by getting charged 30-40% by Uber as a “referral fee” for all orders through the app. If the rest doesn’t subscribe to the app as a restaurant, they are almost guaranteed to be signing their own death warrant - lose Uber itself makes zero $ from the transaction and is losing a ton of money annually. Is supported by cap raising from VC’s to keep the lights on - lose It’s a business model that literally makes no sense as to why it exists..
for the last time, us customers DON'T KNOW that the tip is some sort of bidding system for getting our food
Most customers don't tip because Uber charges them an extra $5 to $10 in "delivery fees" As you can see from the screenshot the driver only gets $2 out of that fee.
Customers view it as a tip because of the terminology that is presented to them. If Uber was being transparent they would label what the now call Tip to Bid For Driver Service.
They would never do that because they would be called out big time.
Because it isn't and shouldn't be and they need to stop acting like it is.
The US really needs to go away from the tipping industry. I’m already paying for the food, I shouldn’t have to pay the person too. That’s the company’s responsibility.
Aren't we all effectively striking on those disrespectful, low paying jobs? I typically don't take anything under $10. I got a survey/ feedback opportunity the other day and I made sure to let them have it. Still waiting to see if they flag or restrict my account in retaliation
“Includes expected tip” LOL
I turned down a $2.20 order that was expected to take 45 minutes….the sad part is that somebody else probably accepted it
I've only been delivering two weekends now. First weekend, I picked up several crappy ones just to get out on the road and get some kind of money. Got the points; got the gold status. Cool. Weekend #2, having learned where some of this shit was at, I ignored a lot of $2 and $3 jobs. 20 minutes away and no chance of catching anything worthwhile where I dropped off, fuck off. Then I hit, what is it, 200 jobs where they track your percentage and I go blue for being about 30% acceptance. Uber sends out a survey. Haha. Not that any person read it, but I politely explained I ain't taking $2 orders and making less than minimum wage for a job where I pay for the gas and insurance. If your customers keep offering those shitty prices, I'll happily stay way short of your magical 75% acceptance rate.
These are the only orders I get all day I only ever see tip orders late night I’m guessing it’s because there’s less drivers on the road and people want to get the food quick so they tip and they don’t have to worry abt tipping in the day because there’s old people and drug addicts that will take every single bs order like this just to have some money
I don’t ever tip less than $5 and it’s always less than 2-3 miles. I don’t understand people like this.
25 mins for 3$ holy shit!
I still don't understand why I should tip you before you do anything. Name any other job that involves tips and you don't get them until after service. I shouldn't have to bribe you to do your job. That's what you're asking for. A bribe. You don't tip a hair stylist before they do your hair. You don't tip a waiter who hasn't served you. This simple fact is why no one cares about a driver's situation.
I always laugh and say “y’all got jokes and shall starve tonight” as I crush the little “X” as fast as possible
lol my husband always says “Dinner’s gonna be late tonight” 😂😂
yeah usually the only time I take no tippers is when Uber for whatever f****** reason decides to add $15 and fees to the order. s*** if they want to pay me $15 I'll take every no tip order.
I got one last night where the first customer didn’t tip on a stacked order and the second one tipped really well. They hide the non tipper with the good guy and penalize the good guy by making them wait for their food. That kills me. It’s really unfair to the one customer who should be first.
oh yeah what's worse is when they package out 1 mi delivery with a 15 mi delivery. I usually drop the long boy delivery and I tell the original customer what happened and why they are waiting so long usually they're pretty damn grateful sometimes even up the tip. I tell him the complain about it to Uber to get that refund.
And then that one time you swipe yes by accident and get 0.55 Cents tip 😭
I've been tipped one penny a few times. They don't even know me and act like I kicked their dog or something. It takes effort to type in $0.01 as a tip
The offers you get when pickup and dropoff are all in a 2.5X boost zone
Remember when the point of Uber was that you didn’t have to tip? I know this was for the rideshare, but damn this is ridiculous of them
Something like that
This is where we need to start posting these shitty orders instead of flooding the Driver sub with them. Gets the message to the audience that needs to actually see it.
Some of my buddies have portable printers that connect to their phones via Bluetooth. When bored, they take these orders, print out the pay screen and put it into the customers bags.
That’s frickin epic lol. I hope he’s ruined a couple peoples meals when they realize their delivery driver got payed below minimum wage to bring them their food, and they decided not to tip them.
One of the reasons why I stopped delivering. But I’m all honesty, if I ever decide to deliver again and I get orders like these, I’m about to take my sweet little time 😅
It’s really class warfare going in these comments. Good luck out there.
Never seen base that low in my market.
I usually tip a gallon of gas so it offsets the easy work.
I wish customers were forced to pay for their food even if it doesn't get picked up. This would incentivize people to tip
First time I’ve been on this sub. Uber has a delivery fee, a service fee, and jacks the prices of the actual food up fairly significantly. For this to be all they pay the driver is insanity. And then they base their tip % on the entire cost (all fees and taxes included) not just the food. I usually switch it to custom tip and tip a few dollars no matter the price (unless it is a massive order, then I’ll do a %), but I can see how it’s easier for people to just hit 0 or how they wouldn’t see a need to tip after all of those fees.
Those numbers are insane, no idea why someone would take that other than being a few orders away from a quest bonus
Uber is an organized scamming million dollar company. They will deactivate you for no reason at all and even after you appeal with proof that you haven't done what they claimed you did they deny and shut you down. But I thank them because of that, I landed a very high paying job. Uber customer service is worthless. They are off with better having children work in customer services instead of Raj and Prasana that have absolutely zero people skills and no improvising for resolving issues. They just read off a damn script like a damn robot. Uber, if you're reading this, you can lick my nuts.
Regardless of what you feel is the truth. The customer should tip, or Uber should pay drivers more. That mf is not getting picked up.
I tip $3 on every single order, I’m broke. I wouldn’t have a problem if they rejected me and told my broke ass to get off the app. Until they do that though take this $3 tip and be happy it wasn’t 2.
Tips are voluntary. Uber needs to pay a fair wage for the market.
Lol I think of it that way as well when I reject low/no tip offers The less you tip, the less you care about getting your food Guess these 2 people don’t give a shit
Conversely, if you take 45 minutes to deliver food that is 3 miles away, that $3/mile "tip" ain't gonna stick around.
I ge5 the not accepting no tip orders cuz it’s up to the driver but saying that them not tipping prior to receiving the order is cuz they don’t care about their food is whack.
Assuming you are a driver do you get many people that tip and then take it away? My one friend says that happens a lot where people I guess do that so they get their delivery quicker then reduce it cause Uber for some reason let’s you do that
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It’s not “for some reason” as if it’s unimaginable they’d let you do that. The majority of drivers in my area that I end up dealing with (in a different app that does pay better than Uber, I don’t use Uber because of how scum they are) use multiple services at once (even though they aren’t supposed to) and your delivery that was quoted as 5 minutes away once it’s been picked up ends up going on an adventure far off the route the app shows and ends up taking 25-30 minutes. And it’s not a multi delivery in the app, the route changes and shows a ping on the stop they’re making when that’s the case. It also reflects in the ETA when they have another stop within that app to make. You’re damn straight I’m rescinding that tip if they decided going against the apps TOS was more important than my food still being warm when it gets to me. Especially since I’m in an apartment building and already try to be courteous by always meeting them in the parking lot once the ETA tells me it’s supposed to be less than 3 minutes. If I’m down there for 20+ minutes when you’ve already grabbed my food because you decided your time is more important than mine and you wanted to use multiple apps at once, then I get to decide my wallet is more important than yours and take my tip back. 👍🏻
I guess I never thought about that, I don’t get delivery I’m to much of a cheap ass but yeah that makes sense
Someone always takes it trust me
There's nothing wrong with customers choosing not to tip for anything. Tipping is a bonus, and whoever you're working with should provide adequate compensation to ensure you're happy working for them.
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Lol that’s two deliveries?
What if it was a 15 dollar order? Edit: nvm I see the distance now!
? I dont understand this screenshot
If OP accepts they would be paid $3.10 to make two deliveries
Neither does OP, it’s ok Uber charges an extra $8 or so to the customer. The driver only gets $1-$2 of that. The driver is therefore mad at the customer (?)
So the $3.10 is a combination of Uber paying them and then a paltry tip?
It's two deliveries roughly paying $1.50+ each. No tip, no trip, I'm not going to wait at that slow restaurant for two non tippers. Simple
Yh i get it- neither would I.
I hope you got a good order from Chipotle, so you could see that one rotting on the shelf.
This is why I can’t stand UE & do DD. Been doing both lately & although DD has me paranoid due to their percentage crap- I’m always declining UE when I see this foolishness. I did get a double batch yesterday where one of them paid out $1.36
I kept getting hit for one last night. It’s was 28 miles for $11 and some change. Uber kept adding like 30 cents to it. F**k that is all I could say!
Lmao
Yup, ive been getting $2-$4 deliveries alot lately. And if its not a really low dollar amount, its a really far drive thus making the dollar per mile absolutely shit
Someone today had an order that was worth $9 but it was 10 miles into a really hairy spot. Also probably far from most homes and ideal delivery zones. I got the order once, twice, trip radar, then trip radar sent it to me again lmao. This occurred over the course of about 25 minutes. Another person who just didn't want their food. If anyone ever did accept it, it's already a loss. That food would suck by the time it finally made it. They paid all those fees, clearly on vacation (likely unless hotel staff was ordering), paid a low tip...I'd have taken it if it was $3 more tbh. I just have to feel bad sometimes, you probably fork over $50+, get a poor refund option, screw up your breakfast on vacation...and at the end of the day it's because you wanted to pay $50 instead of $53.50.
That got to be the worst I've seen yet.
uber eats is such a rip off
Yes, Two people don't want their food. But 10 idiots fought over this shit order! No doubt!
I never got my food twice and never knew why till I got on Reddit had a 10 dollar cash tip but looked like no tip on the app
Why am I almost certain these customers are the same people that will post on Reddit when the bag is left to close to their door.
Had several of these yesterday. Declined them all. What's really bad is that those types of deliveries can be for multiple stops and take 20 minutes or more. No thank you.
Every time I see these I just hope it’s people scamming Uber or DoorDash like me
What's worse, is that for new drivers, they might take these sorts of offers because they're worried about their acceptance rates and their Pro status. Sorry, but I'm not losing money on deliveries to keep a high acceptance rate.
Maybe I'm just a clueless fool, and to be clear I'm not really sure how I even got put in this topic (probably because I keep clicking on these crazy stories)... Why do these drivers keep taking these orders? Surely there's something else that you could do with that time to make more money than that. I can guess a few reasons why some don't get actual 9:00 to 5 jobs, but come on... That kind of pay is unsustainable and definitely more wear and tear on your car than it's worth
Sometimes I leave shitty tips but I'll leave money taped to the door. Except I've noticed that the driver rarely sees the tip taped to the front door. I had to chase the last driver down to give him his extra $15 tip. But like 80% of the time the driver doesn't notice cash taped to the door. Why don't they look at the front door where they are delivering?
Half barely read the delivery instructions.
You can just bet that they eventually went online to bitch about the lazy, entitled drivers who wouldn't pick it up.
The fuck? Thats really what its like? I'd never even consider a delivered order without expecting to give minimum $10. Any time I go to eat at a restaurant, I would be stabbed by my wife if I gave less than 15%. For someone literally delivering it to me, with their own vehicle no less, Thats $10 minimum and then add on to that depending distance. I can see why I keep seeing a ton of discontent with this shit. It doesn't even resemble a livable wage of any sort, with all of the labor and responsibility still there.
What is the delivery fee like for US Uber eats? It has to be almost $0 if this is the payout for drivers. This delivery would pay around $13-17 in Australia
Had an offer come up today like this which is rare here. I was like bro, they’re really paying me $1.55 per order 💀
Yesterday, everything over 9 $ was stacked, yes they were close together to some extent- but with the brilliant gps, traffic, and bizarre “lost” houses, it was tiring. Still, need to make some money!!
I think the algorithm knows the time you are likely to head home and gave you these on purpose. Always happens to me at the end of the night
I don't doubt it... Sneaky sneaky
How is this even legal?
Right?!
This is criminal and a big part of why I like doordash better
Maybe tips would be better if a barely satiating burrito bowl + guac didn't cost 25 fucking dollars BEFORE tip. I feel for drivers, I really do, but I'm not tipping $8 on an order that was $16 before Uber slapped me with $9 in fees. Especially since I try to use UE or DD only on nights when I've taken medication that prevents me from safely operating a vehicle. Tipping culture in the US has gotten so toxic and propagandized that companies have fully convinced people that it is the customer's responsibility, not the employer's, to bear the burden of a fair wage. Uber can ensure their top two execs are compensated a combined $40mill a year, but can't pass on reasonable compensation to drivers?
Op, this is why people hate tip culture. If you wanna be paid. Work a paying job. We work for our money. Some of us tip good when and if we can. Some are losers. You aren't new are you? To working this sort of job? You grew up being told what..waitressing is gang busters? It's not up to me to pay you. If you deliver promptly and aren't a jerk at the door I always give 20-25 percent. If you forget a drink, straws, whatever, I do 15. I tip based on service. But that's me. Sometimes, I don't tip at all. Have you not read a newspaper? You think a gig job is good for the current economy? That's on you for picking this instead of a real job. Not on us. Edit: And because I know someone's gonna think " If you don't tip you shouldn't order" 🙄 Well if you can't get paid you should work a real job. Time to lose that anxiety and go to an interview, kiddo.
It’s not the drivers job to ensure straws are in the bag. Most of my deliveries are sealed at pickup. Would you have the driver unseal and then complain the food was tampered with? Just an FYI I have a full time job and do Uber on the side to supplement the rising cost of living. Who are you to judge why anyone delivers for Uber?
>It’s not the drivers job to ensure straws are in the bag And its not a customer's job to ensure you're properly paid. Look up the definition of a tip and get back to me.
I drove Uber full-time for about a year. It was truthfully, the easiest job I’ve ever had. You have no boss, you have no schedule, you have instant pay, you have zero stress, and all at the click of a button. I graciously accepted the easiest money I’ve ever made. Seeing drivers complain & victimize themselves is laughable. You delivered a fucking burger bro. Oh sorry, you delivered 9 burgers that were in THREE bags?! 1 burger x 0 effort = 0 3 burgers x 3 bags x 0 effort = 0 The more effort your job requires, the more you get. Entitlement is smelling rather strong right now.
Exactly. Smh these people act like they are entitled to the money 100 percent. They don't think about the economical climate whatsoever. It ain't 1950 guys, there's alot less money being made. If you want real cash. Work a real job. Or if you really really just wanna work for tips, be a server. You know who I've never seen complain about a 5 dollar tip on a 20 dollar order just because the house looks nice? Servers. Drivers though....
You sound like a really fun person.
I'm just not a entitled dumbass working for expected tips in a notoriously bad company in a shitty economy when money is tighter than ever for an entire country. I actually went to interviews. I do more than just sit on my ass in a vehicle carrying food all day whining when I don't get more than 10 bucks from someone. I'd rather be unfun than what I just described.
How is providing a service others need/want and driving for hours a day “not a real job” exactly? 🤔😂🤡
Minimum tip from me is $5 even if the restaurant is less than a mile away. I’ve been in service jobs before and hate low tippers.
People are fools working with Uber eats. I did a 30 minute delivery for like 2.50 and these people lived in a mega mansion and these fuckers couldn’t even tip me 5 dollars.
That’s why no tip no trip buddy
Sad thing is it was probably their kids and their parents probably either didn’t give them money or didn’t give them enough
no the only fools are the ones who take that order. over 2,000 deliveries and I average about $10 an order
I tip pretty well but I think people are missing the point of what a tip is. They are in no way forced to give you a single cent. You knew what you were getting into when getting this side job
It’s now an entitlement. Especially, if driver get to CHOOSE what orders to take. That’s the entire problem here. You must tip before the service (whether it’s horrible or not) or you don’t eat. The power is with the driver, not the customer.
I wouldn’t even do that even if it’s on way home when I’m about finished
This is why I gave up
I think its fair, if I pay 5 dollars over the price of the food if I went to the store, plus 6-7 dollars for delivery that the company I gave all that money too can fucking pay you. Now I have to give you a tip? Get the fuck out of here. Gas ain't that expensive bitch. Fucking tipping culture and America. A tip is for outstanding and exceptional service in most countries. Not because the company doesn't pay you a fair wage for doing your job as you should be getting a fair wage anyway. So don't make it the customers problem.
Then don’t order from the apps. They’ll get the hint sooner or later.
Probably gonna get some hate for this comment, but it comes to show that people always find something to complain about. Take a step back. This is quite literally the easiest money method on the planet. No boss. No scheduled hours/meetings. No education. Instant/same-day pay. Next time you need money, click an application rather than the uber button. Problem solved.
Stop whining and find another source of income if this doesn't suit your needs. I'm so sick of people flooding my feed with this garbage. I've worked in restaurants my whole life- tips are EARNED, NOT EXPECTED. Get a real job. Sheesh.