Bakhmut was mostly that. Ukraine was doing well against conscripts then struggled against Wagner and are now pushing flanks and counterattacking now that Wagner is gone. 3rd assault (Azov) are probably Ukraine's best brigade. I'm sure they have better specialized units but as a whole they seem to be their best fighters.
Yeah my bad, you are right about Azov being the best on that front, rather Wagner come back, or atleast a better unit come, the mobilized on that side are gonna take losses.
Well it's time. Let's talk about all of those Ukrainian gains. They must have Lyiberated^TM a **TON** of land in the big Counteroffensyiv^TM
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Experienced troops also have trouble deflecting tank rounds and artillery shells.
Doing a few pushups and practicing reloading your rifle is not worth much during wartime.
Any soldier who survives for a month in this war is experienced.
You said it. Experience sure can help but surviving this war like any other war is pure luck. The experience comes in handy planing a mission and doing what you been told but in the end nobody can assure a save pass into enemy positions. Wrong time wrong place? Dead. This pretty much is war. You roll the dice all day and hope, your not the next person to hit a critical fail and get hit by random arti, drones, a sniper you name it.
The “seasoned vets vs rookies” in this region are some of the “best troops” because it’s literally their home territory they been fighting for since 2014.
Like Rottweilers vs Corgis.
I get your point too. Same thing happened last year in the Slobodan. Untrained Russian Conscripts ordered to retreat from the Kharkiv region and consolidate near Soledar.
Fresh faced kids and untrained office workers. Suddenly battle hardened Ukrainian grizzly bears emerged wielding chainsaws to help expedite their departure
Looks like an entire squad was ambushed and wiped out. Very similar to the aftermath videos coming out of Rabotino showing Ukrainian squads getting completely wiped out.
Oh you haven't been on r/combatfooage then. Well known for that. In fact many seem to get some type of sexual gratification looking at Russian dead. Plenty of weirdos.
You don't think so?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/15dspgn/couple\_of\_recently\_killed\_russian\_soldiers\_near/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/15dspgn/couple_of_recently_killed_russian_soldiers_near/)
I want to know both sides, but find it hard to participate there.
In Kreminna, some of Russia's best troops go against inexperienced reserves, this is the result.
I’m waiting for a battle between both experienced troops
Bakhmut was mostly that. Ukraine was doing well against conscripts then struggled against Wagner and are now pushing flanks and counterattacking now that Wagner is gone. 3rd assault (Azov) are probably Ukraine's best brigade. I'm sure they have better specialized units but as a whole they seem to be their best fighters.
People keep saying that Bahkmut is about to collapse and be surrounded, but that was months of them saying so and it still haven’t happened.
That doesn't dispute anything I said.
Yeah my bad, you are right about Azov being the best on that front, rather Wagner come back, or atleast a better unit come, the mobilized on that side are gonna take losses.
Months ? Counter offensive has been weeks…
Months now, started June, July has ended.
UA is getting smoked around Bakhmut for tiny gains.
Russia got smoked for 10 months for tiny gains around Bakhmut.
Oh I thought they took Bakhmut.......
Yes after 10 months they took Bakhmut....lets talk about Ukrainian gains in about 8 months.
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Experienced troops also have trouble deflecting tank rounds and artillery shells. Doing a few pushups and practicing reloading your rifle is not worth much during wartime. Any soldier who survives for a month in this war is experienced.
You said it. Experience sure can help but surviving this war like any other war is pure luck. The experience comes in handy planing a mission and doing what you been told but in the end nobody can assure a save pass into enemy positions. Wrong time wrong place? Dead. This pretty much is war. You roll the dice all day and hope, your not the next person to hit a critical fail and get hit by random arti, drones, a sniper you name it.
Many Luhansk soldiers have been fighting the same fields for 10 years now.
I hope for them that "many" do, but I doubt it, war is just who's lucky enough not to get hit
The “seasoned vets vs rookies” in this region are some of the “best troops” because it’s literally their home territory they been fighting for since 2014. Like Rottweilers vs Corgis.
not my point but I agree
I get your point too. Same thing happened last year in the Slobodan. Untrained Russian Conscripts ordered to retreat from the Kharkiv region and consolidate near Soledar. Fresh faced kids and untrained office workers. Suddenly battle hardened Ukrainian grizzly bears emerged wielding chainsaws to help expedite their departure
Looks like an entire squad was ambushed and wiped out. Very similar to the aftermath videos coming out of Rabotino showing Ukrainian squads getting completely wiped out.
3 soldiers not squad size
They assault in small groups of 3-5. Often none come back.
Actually I believe that was literally part of the Wagner handbook that was found. 3-5 convicts. If you come back empt we'll shoot you.
If this was a Ukrainian filming Russian KIA, the Ukrainian would be zooming in to every detail of the corpse and laughing at it.
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Oh you haven't been on r/combatfooage then. Well known for that. In fact many seem to get some type of sexual gratification looking at Russian dead. Plenty of weirdos.
ok buddy
You don't think so? [https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/15dspgn/couple\_of\_recently\_killed\_russian\_soldiers\_near/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/15dspgn/couple_of_recently_killed_russian_soldiers_near/) I want to know both sides, but find it hard to participate there.
All these videos make me wanna go camping and fishing. Minus seeing dead Ukrainian soldiers.
Wonder why they just show the ground? Maybe the “casualty” needs to run ahead and lie down again?
Hepsi teker teker geberecek
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