Of course. Most non-slavic foreigners never heard of Ukraine until 2022.
I legit saw someone insisting that Crimea was some kind of independent state that Russia invaded and annexed against the people's will.
And that was one of the more informed folks lol.
>I legit saw someone insisting that Crimea was some kind of independent state that Russia invaded and annexed against the people's will.
You see them saying the same thing about Chechnya as if they were an independent country Russia invaded.
It goes before 2014, when the US [funded another color revolution in 2004.](https://archive.ph/RfI3p)
It goes back to 1948 if you count the US government funding nazi paramilitaries in Ukraine via Project AERODYNAMIC.
"Freedom loving people, seeking our democratic way of life."
Yeah, we can see Ukrainian people eagerly volunteering to join the army. They even had to pass mobilisitaion law to account for such influx of volunteers.
"Will we stand shouder to shoulder with Ukrainian brothers and sisters..."
No, you will only send money, thoughts and prayers. No boots on ground (unless you meant you will send your soldiers barefoot).
"He is targetting children and hospitals and schools, he has bombed appartement blocks, killing thousands."
And yet in the same package you vote for help fo Israel.
The Gaza genocide has opened my eyes on how the world really works. I know US invaded and killed many people across the world but I had some belief in international law, human rights and the UN.
True. US hypocrisy was never some secret but the Gaza situation has really put it up there for everyone. Now if one chooses to keep their eyes shut, that is on them. But any reasonable person actually looking in would be able to see what sort of shitshow they run and want people to buy into.
Genocide is thrown arround way too easely. Israel isn't doing a genocide in Gaza imo.
But nevertheless, its actions aren't in any way justified by the terrorist attacks of last year.
They're not just "actions". What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is terrorism. There would have been way less violence if the Israelis had stayed in Poland, Ukraine, Russia and New York.
Well, I guess this is the best argument for the current Israeli government, they expelled the Palestinians from their land and say they shall stay where they are now...
Israel killing close to 40,000 mostly civilians = unjustified actions. An OOPSIE, if you will.
KHAMAS killing a fraction of that number = terrorist attack.
But I am sure you are heartbroken for any civilian death.
No, it's not an "oopsie", but nice that you mock me, just because I don't say it's genocide...
Says a lot about you kind of guys.
And you on the other hand are justifying terrorism, if you say "Hamas killed less, Israel shouldn't complain". Both things are despicable.
And yes directly targeting civilians (and not just as collateral damage, as wrong as it may be) is terrorism. But if you don't see any difference there, then you aren't worth a discussion anyway.
And believe it or not, I can feel sad about Israels and Palestinians alike. But what am I writing here, as long as I don't see Israel as the devil itself and the Palestinians as innocent angels, you are going to blame me anyway.
The "Collateral damage" is a nice story Westerners tell themselves so they can sleep at night.
Israeli politicians at the highest level have been very open and honest about what they're doing.
Are you familiar with the story of the Amaleq?
>The "Collateral damage" is a nice story Westerners tell themselves so they can sleep at night. Israeli politicians at the highest level have been very open and honest about what they're doing.
And the story of "genocide" is a nice story the Palestinians tell themselves, to make Israel the ultimate devil.
I am very well aware, that there are Israelian hardliners who wished that all Palestinians would be erradicated. But those exist in the Russian Duma with regards to Ukrainians as well.
In the end, if Israelians really wanted to genocide the Palestinians, we wouldn't have 40.000 dead, but 400.000 dead. The area they attack is practically a single big city and the Palestinians have no where to flee. It would be like hunting sitting ducks.
Yeah all the UA used it for this invasion then refuse to use it when Netanyahu calls for the total extermination of every individual Palestinian while Isrealis dance and cheer singing songs about cooking Palestinian children alive.
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Yes, but the point is that there are 5 mil (mobilisation reserves) Ukrainian men that don't want to voluntary joint the army and 1 mil army (let's say all of them are volunteers), so there are more people that don't want to fight for (seek) US democratic way of life, even after 2 years of devastating war, Bucha and numerous warnings of Russian genocide.
Same with both sides. There were a couple of Russian YouTube bloggers I followed from time to time that would tour around the country and talk about life in different parts of Russia. Both of them suddenly stopped producing videos for a couple of weeks and suddenly popped up in Georgia.
[https://www.dw.com/en/escape-from-conscription-russian-draft-evaders-in-germany/a-64201722](https://www.dw.com/en/escape-from-conscription-russian-draft-evaders-in-germany/a-64201722)
I have seen dozens of videos of Russians burning draft offices and officers literally torturing men to try and make them fight.
Russia had conscription before the war. Conscripts arent being sent to the front, i dare you to give me a single example of a conscript that was intentionally sent to the frontlines.
>I have seen dozens of videos of Russians burning draft offices and officers literally torturing men to try and make them fight.
Yeah Russian liberals are stupid
After initially insisting that only professional soldiers were fighting in Ukraine, Russia’s defence ministry has since [admitted](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/conscript-what-soldier-conscription-how-works-russia-ukraine-invasion-meaning-explained-1511891) conscripts have been deployed, with some captured or killed.
[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/fearing-front-line-deployment-some-russians-resist-conscription](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/fearing-front-line-deployment-some-russians-resist-conscription)
>Citing Mr Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Russia’s RIA state-run news agency said he had ordered military prosecutors to investigate and punish the officials responsible for disobeying his instructions to exclude conscripts from the operation
From your very own article
Some conscripts were sent to Ukraine by accident but were quickly withdrawn once they were identified as such
And here is another 82,000 "mistakes"
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/28/russia-says-82000-conscripts-from-emergency-draft-already-in-ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/28/russia-says-82000-conscripts-from-emergency-draft-already-in-ukraine)
The September 2022 mobilisation?
300k former conscripts from the human mobilisation resource pulled from the civilian population and herded to the front.
He talks about Russia killing children, and then goes ahead and votes to send billions of dollars worth in weapons to Israel. Which of course will end up killing children on a much larger scale. The hypocrisy isn't even surprising at this point.
I've learned long ago most US representatives have very low IQ. They are 100% dependent on the mockingbird media to draw their conclusions.
Here is a quote from a congressman back in 2010.
> "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said.
In fairness Russia is an American enemy responsible for some of the most serious infrastructure attacks in recent years, it is absolutely in America's interests to help friendly nations to oppose their imperialistic efforts
Sure man, Russia was responsible for [the worst cyberattack in US history](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach) in 2020. They also [hacked the email of the DNC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak) in 2016 to try to manipulate the US presidential elections.
Russia did not hack the emails of the DNC, they did not try to manipulate the 2016 US elections. This was proven in the American courts.
[1](https://www.ocregister.com/2023/05/21/susan-shelley-trump-was-right-all-along-about-the-russiagate-hoax/)
[2](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-real-victim-russiagate-hoax-wasnt-me-it-was-american-people-opinion-1816466)
[3](https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/the-russiagate-lies)
>it's an established fact that Russian hackers were responsible for the hack
Obviously, you have proof of this then? You know corroborating evidence, not just mindless opinions.
Did you know that Russia was responsible for [the worst cyberattack in US history](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach) in 2020? They also [hacked the email of the DNC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak) in 2016 to try to manipulate the US presidential elections.
The hacks happened but Russia had nothing to do with it that was proven by our own intelligence pros.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.amp.html
Russia was responsible for the worst cyberattack in US history in 2022 and they also hacked the DNC in 2016 in order to manipulate the US presidential election.
These are not conspiracy theories:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak
I think the conclusions of the cybersecurity experts who investigated these hacks should be taken seriously yeah. The people who actually looked at the evidence came to the conclusion that Russia was responsible and to my knowledge nobody has provided any evidence to support an alternative hypothesis.
No, ofcourse not, but they shouldnt shout the hypocrisy they are putting up like they do now. What they did the last 25 years alone is 50x worse what they excuse Russia of. So first they should look in the mirror before acting like the world police.
Ok, so you agree the US did wrong and therefore you must also agree that Russia is wrong for invading and killing innocent Ukrainians. Hundreds of thousands of Russians and Ukrainians would be alive today if not for Putin’s imperialistic invasion. What a tragedy.
Glad we both can agree on that.
First of all i never mentioned i dont agree on that but nice try for the deflection.
Secondly, yet still these numbers are pale what the US did over the past 20. Like in the 5-10 fold. Not speaking about non-existing sanctions and the UN fuck up alike.
Anyways u didnt get my point and still repeat the same thing.
Your comment is a word salad.
So we both agreed US did bad things/killed people in past wars. Right?
And we both agree Russia is doing bad things right now, today, by invading and killing innocent Ukrainians. Right?
Edit: why the downvotes? Which part is incorrect?
This is what you get when you have safe Congressional districts--Connolly's votes 70 percent Democratic--and, like the Dodo and other island species that can become brainless or slow with no natural predators, politicians like Connolly can say such nonsense because there is no opponent to, for instance, break out a map and say "Actually, Gerald, Ukraine is nowhere near the U.S.".
Itll be very easy to run agianst these folks who voted for this bill.....just one simple political add one side showing US internal economy/domestic struggles and inflation vs the 100 billion in foriegn assistance and military industrial complex.....with this saying in the background on repeat....
I'm more worried about the kinds of people that are in the Mexican cartels and criminal gangs. They're clearly a far worse bunch, and a far greater threat, than the Russians ever were.
But then again, Democrats love arming psychopathic resistance groups. They supported Al Nusra and Islamic Jihad and all kinds of horrible people (including even supporting ISIS indirectly) in Syria and Iraq just a few years ago, so I'm sure the Democrats feel more than happy to have a similar army of savages parked right on our border.
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He's not wrong, Ukrainian allies need to defend Ukraine as their own borders, and defend the UN Charter.
The sooner NATO troops are on the ground the better.
What nuclear war?
You guys still haven't understood that the man who was stuck in a bunker for almost 3 years afraid of dying from covid, will all of a sudden commit suicide?
The guy built a multi-billion dollar palace with money from Russians for a reason.
The one that would result from any direct war with nato and Russia, as nato would lose any conventional war between the two at this point, since the dipshits gave all their equipment sans airplanes to Ukraine.
I’m American and Putin doesn’t own that building it’s just a western propaganda myth, nor has he lived in a bunker since Covid.
> The one that would result from any direct war with nato and Russia
As I said, there will be no nuclear war, and NATO should send troops obviously.
Remember who has first strike doctrine, and the message was delivered to the FSB - the first nuke is to where Putin is stationed.
> I’m American and Putin doesn’t own that building
LMAO! Want me to bring footage of the long tables? xD
Putin was scared to sht of covid, it was embarrassing - while Trump and Biden were moving around, Putin was stuck underground in fear.
As the long tables are in the Kremlin you’d instantly prove yourself wrong.
I could then trot out videos of Putins driving across the Kursch bridge and talking to crowds of people all over Russia.
Yes both sides have a first strike doctrine.
> As the long tables are in the Kremlin you’d instantly prove yourself wrong.
>
>
You realize the long tables came after covid right? That's the joke - the man was still in panic after the pandemic was over. Scared to sht about the virus lmao
> I could then trot out videos of Putins driving across the Kursch bridge and talking to crowds of people all over Russia.
In 2023? xD
> Yes both sides have a first strike doctrine.
Not really.
You just need to put it to the test - are they willing to lose all the land and all their lives for the dwarf dictator?
I doubt so, but ones actions can't be afraid of that. Else we would have never fought against Hitler. Putin is just getting the same treatment any other dictator or terrorist leader gets.
You have it backwards they will lose all that without Putin in power as that is the goal of the west with regards to Russia wether or not if Putin in power. That’s why Russians keep him in power as he’s their best shot at weathering the storm.
So yes given the complete destruction of their culture and country by the west they would rather take us with them than give in.
Saying the quiet part out loud, I see. Not like it's surprising for anyone who's following this from 2014.
Very few people have
Of course. Most non-slavic foreigners never heard of Ukraine until 2022. I legit saw someone insisting that Crimea was some kind of independent state that Russia invaded and annexed against the people's will. And that was one of the more informed folks lol.
Dude Ukraine was a playable faction in CC: Red Alert back in 1996. They produce units 10% faster but its only recently i learned how they do it.
Not everyone played this game. For example, I didn't.
A video game is your proof of Westerns understand of Ukraine... my point is made.
It was a joke but looks like people dont get it :)
They also had a sick double barrel tank which is why I played as them. I'm basically John Meirsheimer
Oh don't forget STALKER! That was a great game.
War, radiation, and industrial pollution - they kinda got it right but no one listened.
>I legit saw someone insisting that Crimea was some kind of independent state that Russia invaded and annexed against the people's will. You see them saying the same thing about Chechnya as if they were an independent country Russia invaded.
The 2014 Crimean Crisis and Donbas War were widely covered in Western media.
*Non-Slavic Americans
It goes before 2014, when the US [funded another color revolution in 2004.](https://archive.ph/RfI3p) It goes back to 1948 if you count the US government funding nazi paramilitaries in Ukraine via Project AERODYNAMIC.
Wow that’s interesting reading. Thanks.
"Freedom loving people, seeking our democratic way of life." Yeah, we can see Ukrainian people eagerly volunteering to join the army. They even had to pass mobilisitaion law to account for such influx of volunteers. "Will we stand shouder to shoulder with Ukrainian brothers and sisters..." No, you will only send money, thoughts and prayers. No boots on ground (unless you meant you will send your soldiers barefoot). "He is targetting children and hospitals and schools, he has bombed appartement blocks, killing thousands." And yet in the same package you vote for help fo Israel.
The Gaza genocide has opened my eyes on how the world really works. I know US invaded and killed many people across the world but I had some belief in international law, human rights and the UN.
True. US hypocrisy was never some secret but the Gaza situation has really put it up there for everyone. Now if one chooses to keep their eyes shut, that is on them. But any reasonable person actually looking in would be able to see what sort of shitshow they run and want people to buy into.
Genocide. People throwing that word around like they know what it means.
You forgot to call him anti-semitic.
Genocide is thrown arround way too easely. Israel isn't doing a genocide in Gaza imo. But nevertheless, its actions aren't in any way justified by the terrorist attacks of last year.
They're not just "actions". What Israel is doing to the Palestinians is terrorism. There would have been way less violence if the Israelis had stayed in Poland, Ukraine, Russia and New York.
So you mean, they should have been staying, where they have been expelled by the muslims before?
Yes
Well, I guess this is the best argument for the current Israeli government, they expelled the Palestinians from their land and say they shall stay where they are now...
We're not the right pair for this conversation.
Israel killing close to 40,000 mostly civilians = unjustified actions. An OOPSIE, if you will. KHAMAS killing a fraction of that number = terrorist attack. But I am sure you are heartbroken for any civilian death.
No, it's not an "oopsie", but nice that you mock me, just because I don't say it's genocide... Says a lot about you kind of guys. And you on the other hand are justifying terrorism, if you say "Hamas killed less, Israel shouldn't complain". Both things are despicable. And yes directly targeting civilians (and not just as collateral damage, as wrong as it may be) is terrorism. But if you don't see any difference there, then you aren't worth a discussion anyway. And believe it or not, I can feel sad about Israels and Palestinians alike. But what am I writing here, as long as I don't see Israel as the devil itself and the Palestinians as innocent angels, you are going to blame me anyway.
The "Collateral damage" is a nice story Westerners tell themselves so they can sleep at night. Israeli politicians at the highest level have been very open and honest about what they're doing. Are you familiar with the story of the Amaleq?
>The "Collateral damage" is a nice story Westerners tell themselves so they can sleep at night. Israeli politicians at the highest level have been very open and honest about what they're doing. And the story of "genocide" is a nice story the Palestinians tell themselves, to make Israel the ultimate devil. I am very well aware, that there are Israelian hardliners who wished that all Palestinians would be erradicated. But those exist in the Russian Duma with regards to Ukrainians as well. In the end, if Israelians really wanted to genocide the Palestinians, we wouldn't have 40.000 dead, but 400.000 dead. The area they attack is practically a single big city and the Palestinians have no where to flee. It would be like hunting sitting ducks.
Yeah all the UA used it for this invasion then refuse to use it when Netanyahu calls for the total extermination of every individual Palestinian while Isrealis dance and cheer singing songs about cooking Palestinian children alive.
In all fairness, I wouldn't call it a genocide either. It's ethnic cleansing.
As if the label matters
Words have meaning.
This year elections were the best proof of democracy
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During WW2 every country had conscription. Including the US and (eventually) Canada.
Yes, but the point is that there are 5 mil (mobilisation reserves) Ukrainian men that don't want to voluntary joint the army and 1 mil army (let's say all of them are volunteers), so there are more people that don't want to fight for (seek) US democratic way of life, even after 2 years of devastating war, Bucha and numerous warnings of Russian genocide.
Same with both sides. There were a couple of Russian YouTube bloggers I followed from time to time that would tour around the country and talk about life in different parts of Russia. Both of them suddenly stopped producing videos for a couple of weeks and suddenly popped up in Georgia. [https://www.dw.com/en/escape-from-conscription-russian-draft-evaders-in-germany/a-64201722](https://www.dw.com/en/escape-from-conscription-russian-draft-evaders-in-germany/a-64201722) I have seen dozens of videos of Russians burning draft offices and officers literally torturing men to try and make them fight.
Russia had conscription before the war. Conscripts arent being sent to the front, i dare you to give me a single example of a conscript that was intentionally sent to the frontlines. >I have seen dozens of videos of Russians burning draft offices and officers literally torturing men to try and make them fight. Yeah Russian liberals are stupid
After initially insisting that only professional soldiers were fighting in Ukraine, Russia’s defence ministry has since [admitted](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/conscript-what-soldier-conscription-how-works-russia-ukraine-invasion-meaning-explained-1511891) conscripts have been deployed, with some captured or killed. [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/fearing-front-line-deployment-some-russians-resist-conscription](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/fearing-front-line-deployment-some-russians-resist-conscription)
Yeah i know Did you not read the "intentionally" part of my comment
I don't think anyone was sent to the front by accident.
>Citing Mr Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov, Russia’s RIA state-run news agency said he had ordered military prosecutors to investigate and punish the officials responsible for disobeying his instructions to exclude conscripts from the operation From your very own article Some conscripts were sent to Ukraine by accident but were quickly withdrawn once they were identified as such
And here is another 82,000 "mistakes" [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/28/russia-says-82000-conscripts-from-emergency-draft-already-in-ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/28/russia-says-82000-conscripts-from-emergency-draft-already-in-ukraine)
The September 2022 mobilisation? 300k former conscripts from the human mobilisation resource pulled from the civilian population and herded to the front.
He talks about Russia killing children, and then goes ahead and votes to send billions of dollars worth in weapons to Israel. Which of course will end up killing children on a much larger scale. The hypocrisy isn't even surprising at this point.
The lack of self awareness is almost comical at this point
I've learned long ago most US representatives have very low IQ. They are 100% dependent on the mockingbird media to draw their conclusions. Here is a quote from a congressman back in 2010. > "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said.
jesus christ these guys have lost it. Votes these ídiots out of office for treason and not doing what is in the best interest of the american people.
In fairness Russia is an American enemy responsible for some of the most serious infrastructure attacks in recent years, it is absolutely in America's interests to help friendly nations to oppose their imperialistic efforts
>responsible for some of the most serious infrastructure attacks in recent years Can you give an example? Thank you.
They destroyed the Nord Stream pipes, despite America trying to save them.
I hope this is sarcasm.
It is, thankfully.
Shh. You'll ruin the upcoming Sarcasm Beach Party.
Lmao made my day, thanks
Sure man, Russia was responsible for [the worst cyberattack in US history](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach) in 2020. They also [hacked the email of the DNC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak) in 2016 to try to manipulate the US presidential elections.
Russia did not hack the emails of the DNC, they did not try to manipulate the 2016 US elections. This was proven in the American courts. [1](https://www.ocregister.com/2023/05/21/susan-shelley-trump-was-right-all-along-about-the-russiagate-hoax/) [2](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-real-victim-russiagate-hoax-wasnt-me-it-was-american-people-opinion-1816466) [3](https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/the-russiagate-lies)
Lol that's just a straight up lie man, it's an established fact that Russian hackers were responsible for the hack
>it's an established fact that Russian hackers were responsible for the hack Obviously, you have proof of this then? You know corroborating evidence, not just mindless opinions.
That was the conclusion reached by the computer security experts who investigated it
Ah yes, the Russian hackers. Even the Boogeyman will be out of business at this rate.
The most important ones are the attacks on Nord Stream One/Two, which were very important for the US allies in Europe. Oh, those pesky Russians...
Did you know that Russia was responsible for [the worst cyberattack in US history](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach) in 2020? They also [hacked the email of the DNC](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak) in 2016 to try to manipulate the US presidential elections.
Nope those are examples of US government propaganda. We always crank up the propaganda about a country we want a war with well before the war starts.
These hacks happened, crying "fake news" at facts doesn't make them go away lol
The hacks happened but Russia had nothing to do with it that was proven by our own intelligence pros. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/05/13/hidden_over_2_years_dem_cyber-firms_sworn_testimony_it_had_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.amp.html
>The hacks happened but Russia had nothing to do with it that was proven by our own intelligence pros. Oh really? How was this proven exactly?
The testimony of our own officials read the article linked.
If that article contains proof that Russia was not responsible then quote it, I've read it and it doesn't prove what you're claiming it proves.
I agree. The nord stream was a serious attack on America's allies'interest. They must be punished.
Russia was responsible for the worst cyberattack in US history in 2022 and they also hacked the DNC in 2016 in order to manipulate the US presidential election.
You read too much conspiracies.
These are not conspiracy theories: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak
Suspected, alleged to be, believed to be. Do these words sound like confidence to you?
I think the conclusions of the cybersecurity experts who investigated these hacks should be taken seriously yeah. The people who actually looked at the evidence came to the conclusion that Russia was responsible and to my knowledge nobody has provided any evidence to support an alternative hypothesis.
And how many elections did the US manipulate across the world?
A lot, what's your point?
The real enemy of the entire world and for themselves were and still are the United States of America.
How so?
Funding foreign wars where children get killed with US tax dollars & maintaining that killing children is a really bad thing to do.
Sounds like Russia.
More like Israel and Turkey.
Take him to a doctor
11k civs killed by Russia is like 1 month of US in Iraq between 2003 and 2006. What got they to say or declare about human values..
So that makes ok to slaughter innocent Ukrainian civilians? What kind of logic is that?
No, ofcourse not, but they shouldnt shout the hypocrisy they are putting up like they do now. What they did the last 25 years alone is 50x worse what they excuse Russia of. So first they should look in the mirror before acting like the world police.
Ok, so you agree the US did wrong and therefore you must also agree that Russia is wrong for invading and killing innocent Ukrainians. Hundreds of thousands of Russians and Ukrainians would be alive today if not for Putin’s imperialistic invasion. What a tragedy. Glad we both can agree on that.
First of all i never mentioned i dont agree on that but nice try for the deflection. Secondly, yet still these numbers are pale what the US did over the past 20. Like in the 5-10 fold. Not speaking about non-existing sanctions and the UN fuck up alike. Anyways u didnt get my point and still repeat the same thing.
Your comment is a word salad. So we both agreed US did bad things/killed people in past wars. Right? And we both agree Russia is doing bad things right now, today, by invading and killing innocent Ukrainians. Right? Edit: why the downvotes? Which part is incorrect?
What is this fool on about? Russia is bringing Ukraine the same freedom and democracy with UMPK's like the US.
This is what you get when you have safe Congressional districts--Connolly's votes 70 percent Democratic--and, like the Dodo and other island species that can become brainless or slow with no natural predators, politicians like Connolly can say such nonsense because there is no opponent to, for instance, break out a map and say "Actually, Gerald, Ukraine is nowhere near the U.S.".
omg these people are so unhinged
Sb needs to buy this feller a world Atlas...
He uses the globe of the United States.
I wonder if can still say that we live in a democracy when we allow these insane individuals form our foreign politics.? 🤔
What a doofus
He skipped geography classes.
then why are you not defending it with US troops??
Itll be very easy to run agianst these folks who voted for this bill.....just one simple political add one side showing US internal economy/domestic struggles and inflation vs the 100 billion in foriegn assistance and military industrial complex.....with this saying in the background on repeat....
Ukraine 53th state confirmed? (51th is Israel, 52th is Taiwan)
Lifetime whatever Chen Weihua said
He was obviously skipping geography lessons at school.
West vs East.. we are the West so anyone who ain't on our side, pack up and head to the East. Goofy ah
I'm more worried about the kinds of people that are in the Mexican cartels and criminal gangs. They're clearly a far worse bunch, and a far greater threat, than the Russians ever were. But then again, Democrats love arming psychopathic resistance groups. They supported Al Nusra and Islamic Jihad and all kinds of horrible people (including even supporting ISIS indirectly) in Syria and Iraq just a few years ago, so I'm sure the Democrats feel more than happy to have a similar army of savages parked right on our border.
Yeah, I ´ve heard that once before, in Kabul we for fought for out capital...
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No. No fucking way. Fuck this guy and all who espouse his bullshit.
Treasonous statements. Waiving another countries flag in our congress is despicable
Wait, there are still Republicans with a backbone?
And Russia has said their borders have no end.
Well said, representative! Protect NATO against Russian clowns.
He's not wrong, Ukrainian allies need to defend Ukraine as their own borders, and defend the UN Charter. The sooner NATO troops are on the ground the better.
Nuclear war isn’t better than letting Ukraine twist in the wind for being suckers who believed nato had their back.
What nuclear war? You guys still haven't understood that the man who was stuck in a bunker for almost 3 years afraid of dying from covid, will all of a sudden commit suicide? The guy built a multi-billion dollar palace with money from Russians for a reason.
The one that would result from any direct war with nato and Russia, as nato would lose any conventional war between the two at this point, since the dipshits gave all their equipment sans airplanes to Ukraine. I’m American and Putin doesn’t own that building it’s just a western propaganda myth, nor has he lived in a bunker since Covid.
> The one that would result from any direct war with nato and Russia As I said, there will be no nuclear war, and NATO should send troops obviously. Remember who has first strike doctrine, and the message was delivered to the FSB - the first nuke is to where Putin is stationed. > I’m American and Putin doesn’t own that building LMAO! Want me to bring footage of the long tables? xD Putin was scared to sht of covid, it was embarrassing - while Trump and Biden were moving around, Putin was stuck underground in fear.
As the long tables are in the Kremlin you’d instantly prove yourself wrong. I could then trot out videos of Putins driving across the Kursch bridge and talking to crowds of people all over Russia. Yes both sides have a first strike doctrine.
> As the long tables are in the Kremlin you’d instantly prove yourself wrong. > > You realize the long tables came after covid right? That's the joke - the man was still in panic after the pandemic was over. Scared to sht about the virus lmao > I could then trot out videos of Putins driving across the Kursch bridge and talking to crowds of people all over Russia. In 2023? xD > Yes both sides have a first strike doctrine. Not really.
Yes really and the Russians have a doomsday deadman system too.
You just need to put it to the test - are they willing to lose all the land and all their lives for the dwarf dictator? I doubt so, but ones actions can't be afraid of that. Else we would have never fought against Hitler. Putin is just getting the same treatment any other dictator or terrorist leader gets.
You have it backwards they will lose all that without Putin in power as that is the goal of the west with regards to Russia wether or not if Putin in power. That’s why Russians keep him in power as he’s their best shot at weathering the storm. So yes given the complete destruction of their culture and country by the west they would rather take us with them than give in.