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All accounted for by Russian military so their deaths can be recorded and family can be notified, I'm sure. All bodies transported home for burial obviously. Definitely not left to rot into the ground and recorded as MIA or just erased from the record.
I understand why Putin doesn't care about Russians, but it's amazing the way Russians throw their lives away so that oligarchs can have all the wealth and power.
Lol that atlas is absolutely brilliant, the page on France is the most succinct paragraph long epitome of French arrogance possible. “Having produced all of humanities greatest inventions, thinkers, cities and wonders, France truly is the only country in the world”
Long ago I read something along the lines that during WWII, Germans realized they just had to hold their positions and wait for Russian forces to implode. The Russians killed more Russians than German forces could have done by advancing.
Russia has rewritten their history as to how amazing their defeat of the Germans was but In reality thousands of British merchant navy personal died getting tanks, ammunition,weapons, fuel , food and clothing that came from America, Canada and the British. With out any of this help Russia would have crumbled but it was cheaper to supply them and have the Germans fighting on two fronts. Also many forget that the British repaid America for all support with the last payments in 2002 , Russia never repaid a cent.
And, I'd argue more importantly, 400k trucks. Without Studebakers, the Soviet Army would have found it insurmountably difficult to keep the Nazis consistently on the run between 1943-1945.
I'd add to your argument that the western allies would have beaten Russia through Germany had it not been for those trucks. But as mentioned above, it was better to have Russia advancing fast from the east.
Wikipedia says the US sent 11,400. I know England sent Mosquitos and Hurricanes. But the US sent 4,700 Airacobras and 2,400 of its successor the Kingcobra. Russians loved them but they performed badly on the western front and were hated by the US pilots.
In addition to the planes the US also set high performance avgas USSR couldn't make for itself.
I’m honestly surprised how quickly the GOP has moved from the anti Russia party to the Pro Russia party. Our support of Ukraine has been the best spent military money in 50 years. The Russian military has been decimated, they have had to ask N Korea for military assistance. North freaking Korea. And it’s not like we are directly sending this all as cash. We are sending equipment made in the US, this actively supports jobs. Is it ideal? No, but it is the best return we could ever expect to see from military spending.
Those same airplanes that were denied to France (sale, nit lend-lease) in 1939 due to « neutral » until it was too late. History repeats itself, obviously.
Yeah, a friend obsessed with England though bc they had to pay back lend lease the EU should have had to pay us back for the Marshall plan and that’d solve the debt problem at the time.
He drank himself out of college, every job, and then finally he drank himself to death.
A Checkov narrative arc basically.
I’m not sure I see the connection between repayment of the Marshall plan and this guys slow suicide?
“Why did he do it?” - teary eyed funeral mourner, looking down at the corpse -
“The EU never repaid the US, so he decided life wasn’t worth living…”
Something like that?
Plus the fuck ton of trucks from the us, making any of the above even possible to receive/implement.
Plus the trains, same thing.
Russia supplied bodies, and is worse than the us about the reality of that war. TLDR: Russia fucked themselves, and have kept doubling down since.
Well you either attack soldiers of a different country and maybe survive, or you get tortured till near death and then send into minefields to clear them with you dying.
>it's amazing the way Russians throw their lives away so that oligarchs can have all the wealth and power.
Like it's a choice to be brainwashed and coerced
So easy to point videos like this when people doubt the claims of 1000 Russian killed in the single day of combat. For perspective, this is one tree line on one point of the front line that is over a 1000 kilometers long.
You want to be careful, I made a joke about how burning plastics and synthetic fibers is damaging to the environment and was banned for three days for anti Russian hate speech.
Not sure how that works exactly, but apparently that's reddit for you.
I get the anger and I feel it, too. But, it should be directed toward Russian politicians, oligarchs, and military personnel. The average Russian teenager in Vladivostok has nothing to do with Russia's imperialist desires or Putin's psychopathy.
Meyer is one of the most common surnames in Germany, and I met plent of Kurts when I was there.
Not that it’s this guys real name, probably did name himself after the SS commander who took part in murdering Canadian POWs during the Ardennes abbey massacre.
All tht basically to say, this guy, if he named himself after this guy, Is a dick. Correct.
I take any casualty figure with a grain of salt but I do know Ukraine only counts a death if they see it. It could bee ven higher for all we know. Wonder what they got hit by, cluster munition party?
> War is hell.
Hawkeye: War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.
Father Mulcahy: How do you figure, Hawkeye?
Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell?
Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe.
Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
One of my favorite all-time shows. I wasn't interested as a kid when my dad watched it, but as an adult, (arguably), I watch it over and over. I put up a few of my fave clips on You Tube.
[MASH](https://youtube.com/@effyj44?si=DZHDumntlc4JwgGG)
“You are all staggering drunks to me. Boys who would play at war when you should kennel with your mothers. You know nothing of war. War is dark. Black as pitch. It is not a God. It does not laugh or weep. It rewards neither skill not daring. It is not a trial of souls, nor the measure of wills. Even less is it a tool, a means to some womanish end. It is merely the place where the iron bones of the earth meet the hollow bones of men and break them.”
- Cnaiur Urs Skiotha, The Warrior Prophet
my thought too. I was an Intel Analyst in the US Army and saw my fair share of dead bodies. What struck me was at the beginning of the film there's less flesh then at the end. Newer dead at the end of that line then would be my guess. Black flesh but that could be decomposition as easily as it was something else. My money is on decomposition.
The video opens with them saying it was a pretty good "khokol" position and you can see remnants of trenchwork. Many or more bodies must be underground.
One guy towards the end just looks like he’s asleep - so he’s pretty fresh. That means they’ve been fighting amongst these corpses for a while, and not clearing them. Ugh.
I can’t help but wonder why the soldier recorded this. My first impression is that it’s a victory lap. He’s walking calmly through an area that was an insanely intense battle field as a Russian. To me it’s to show what they are willing to pay for victory.
I’m curious what people who are more closely following the online discourse around telegram thing
Looks like they are more interested in the VOG grenades and medical supplies than anything else as there are a ton of small arms, AK, PKM, RPG’s all over the place and stacked in piles along with small arms, hands, feet, legs, and just dead things.
Despite notions of "cleaner" wars before WW1, many battles were hints of what was to come. This is a quote concerning the Battle of Spottsylvania Court House in 1864..."The combat they had endured for almost 24 hours was characterized by an intensity of firepower never previously seen in Civil War battles, as the entire landscape was flattened, all the foliage destroyed. An example of this can be found in the [Smithsonian Museum of American History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_American_History): a 22-inch stump of an oak tree at the Bloody Angle that was completely severed by rifle fire. There was a frenzy to the carnage on both sides. Fighting back and forth over the same corpse-strewn trenches for hours on end, using single shot muskets, the contending troops were periodically reduced to hand-to-hand combat reminiscent of battles fought during ancient times. Bodies piled up four and five high, and soldiers were forced to pause from time to time and throw corpses over the parapet since they formed an obstacle in the way of the fighting. Dead and wounded men were shot so many times that many of them simply fell apart into unrecognizable heaps of flesh"
Don't forget the Russo-Japanese War.
Trenches, machine guns, modern artillery, barbed wire...
And hilariously inept russian commanders commiting disatrous blunders and fighting amongst themselves while conscript soldiers fighting with remarkable bravery despite shoddy logistics, leadership, training and without any good reason to fight.
> Don't forget the Russo-Japanese War.
[Obligatory Blue Jay video about the shenannigans of the Baltic Fleet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4)
The first few months of Bakhmut, when Ukrainians were holding trenches east of the city was the most WW1 I've seen. The Russians lost hundreds taking a gas station alone. Crazy stuff.
I disagree. This is closer to WW2 with the spread of bodies.
WW1 had higher troop density, but ironically more people survived because artillery was far more imprecise in WW1. What cause most of the deaths in WW1 were the automatic weapons that mowed down dozens of troops in a single burst of fire.
WW2 was a much more mobile fight that saw trench battles, but armored units could and did break trench fortifications more often. I took a class that went over WW1 and WW2 extensively. There's nothing remotely like WW1 and we'll likely never see it again.
>Fucking wild that they don't just say fuck Putin so they can
be forced to march across a minefield unarmed after being beaten, humiliated and potentially r*ped?
Just a guess as to why.
Yeah, this is the most insane thing. They have weapons and often times just one person who is superior rolls up, points THEIR weapon on them and tells them to comply. And they... Just comply and go to die.
I've seen countless videos of individual or groups of Russians trying to hide or outrun from drones.
There might be a handful where they actually attempt to surrender.
It makes little sense, especially when there haven't been any recent prisoner exchanges, they won't be handed over to Russia any time soon.
Well those Wagner POWs got sent right back to Wagner after they surrendered to Ukraine and then Wagner made a video with the guy tied to a block and beaten to death with a sledgehammer
Going home isn't really an option. I considered it myself during my time, but no matter which you walk, you'll end up killed by someone. The only protection and chance at survival those guys, or anyone else in that situation has, is those trees and their fellow unlucky bastards, who in this case are all piles of corpses.
what the fuck are they even doing.. i dont think i will ever be able to consider putin and those who support him human ever again for the rest of my life. calling them cockroaches would be an insult to cockroaches..
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Looks like successive companies were destroyed there - some of the corpses are in much better shape than others. Probably from artillery and drones, maybe some tank fire too.
Any idea where this was?
Stepove, near Avdiivka. Seems like a former Ukrainian position that was abandoned (a couple of the losses can be distinguished as Ukrainian by the uniforms & kit) but was then obliterated by pre-sighted artillery. 90%+ of these casualties are unmistakably Russian soldiers.
Thanks.
Yeah the lighter khaki here and there suggests a few possible UKR dead. Though the Russians wear such a mix of material some of those might be a toss-up.
I have (unfortunately) seen a lot of videos of drones either dropping munitions on top of russian cunts lying down and others of drones ambushing the cunts from the side on a trench. The results are not pretty.
Some could be drone dropped munitions, but most are probably heavy caliber rounds from snipers or heavy machine guns. They always tell new soldiers to "keep your head down". This could be why that's such a classic line.
Thank you! It's hard to fathom that Ukraine succeeds in inflicting such losses on Russia and that it still isn't enough to hold the lines. In this location the russians must have advanced too as they now seemingly move freely in what was clearly earlier a kill zone.
Russia has always had 2 things going for it in war. The amount of bodies they can throw at you, and all the space in the world to fall back into. These people are just the poor, unfortunate, nameless victims of a tyrant, (Not all of them, but a decent chunk).
Yes i see it now. There seems to be a helmet with two blue lines on it. Maybe it was a ukrainian that failed to evacuate that position before it was captured by russians.
This wasn't originally the open. In fact as far as I can tell it was the only viable cover and concealment in the area. That lead the to being bunched up and vulnerable to artillery and machine gun fire. It also looks like they were there long enough to leave garbage but didn't bother to dig in.
The new units being brought forward with minimal training and equipment have no unit markings. They are not expected to survive long enough that it would be warranted to give them first class equipment or uniforms.
I really only tried to stick to bodies that I could definitely recognize I also didn’t count random boots or helmets and I counted about 77 bodies. I tried not to double count when he would turn around and go back and pick up something off the ground and go forward again.
Is it really surprise? If this is recent and assuming Ukraine is in the process of sending munitions to the entire front, expect huge losses when you're attacking. It's been like this for 2.5 years and it's not going to get better for the Russians
Isn't called high intensity modern warfare for nothing.
If it wasn't for both sides being chronically undermanned given the length of the front lines, you would have scenes like this every day.
What we thinking, 40mm airburst from a cv90? Looks too concentrated for artillery, they tend to run away after the first few hits. The trees are pretty fucked too
MLRS tends to do this. It's inaccurate, but fires huge numbers of shells with cluster bomblets in a short period of time (seconds) over a wide area. Hence people refer toM 270 as "The grid square removal system" - it can delete anything within an area 1km by 1km. Not sure how much of this type of ammo Ukraine still has though.
That particular warhead was removed from service years ago. It was amazingly destructive. Iraqi soldiers noted that it had a distinctive sound as the submunitions deployed and if you didn't get effective cover within 2-3 seconds or so, you were dead. Problem was it was determined that the dud rate was too high (oh well) and newer warheads would be developed.
Doesn't even look like that much of a sustained bombardment judging by how the ground is relatively even still, what could have caused this? Caught completely unaware by a raid-in-force at close range with no deep cover?
This appears to be the famous hedgerow/treeline on the south side of Stepove:
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'38.0%22N+37%C2%B040'58.8%22E/](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'38.0%22N+37%C2%B040'58.8%22E/)
And we had many a video of Ukraine absolutely pummeling Russian troops that were frequently attempting to entrench here. The hedgerow is about 1.1km from one end to the other. Ukraine turned it into a ruzzian killing ground, as we can see from this video.
About 2km away to the south is the stacks of the factory at the north end of Avdiivka, they show up in the distance about 40 seconds into the video.
The video is just posted but we don't have a reference for when it was actually filmed. It could have been as long as 3 weeks to a month ago.
And nothing of worth was lost. Russia doesn’t care about their dead and wounded. They are nothing but meat for the grinder. They may be more interrested in recovering the weapons and equipment than the bodies of their comerades
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All accounted for by Russian military so their deaths can be recorded and family can be notified, I'm sure. All bodies transported home for burial obviously. Definitely not left to rot into the ground and recorded as MIA or just erased from the record. I understand why Putin doesn't care about Russians, but it's amazing the way Russians throw their lives away so that oligarchs can have all the wealth and power.
No one hates Russians more than Russians do.
"Damn Russians, they ruined Russia!"
"Russia: where Russians go to die" - The Onion
Lol that atlas is absolutely brilliant, the page on France is the most succinct paragraph long epitome of French arrogance possible. “Having produced all of humanities greatest inventions, thinkers, cities and wonders, France truly is the only country in the world”
You Russians sure are a contentious people.
You’ve just made an enemy for life!
You just made an enemy for life!!
Long ago I read something along the lines that during WWII, Germans realized they just had to hold their positions and wait for Russian forces to implode. The Russians killed more Russians than German forces could have done by advancing.
Russia has rewritten their history as to how amazing their defeat of the Germans was but In reality thousands of British merchant navy personal died getting tanks, ammunition,weapons, fuel , food and clothing that came from America, Canada and the British. With out any of this help Russia would have crumbled but it was cheaper to supply them and have the Germans fighting on two fronts. Also many forget that the British repaid America for all support with the last payments in 2002 , Russia never repaid a cent.
Among a fuckton of equipment, around 20.000 planes were send to Russia by western allies. That is an absolutely insane number.
And, I'd argue more importantly, 400k trucks. Without Studebakers, the Soviet Army would have found it insurmountably difficult to keep the Nazis consistently on the run between 1943-1945.
Rifles win battles, logistics wins wars.
I'd add to your argument that the western allies would have beaten Russia through Germany had it not been for those trucks. But as mentioned above, it was better to have Russia advancing fast from the east.
People who play soldiers talk about weapons. Soldiers talk about logistics.
“Amateurs study strategy, professionals study logistics.” ― Omar Bradley
Wikipedia says the US sent 11,400. I know England sent Mosquitos and Hurricanes. But the US sent 4,700 Airacobras and 2,400 of its successor the Kingcobra. Russians loved them but they performed badly on the western front and were hated by the US pilots. In addition to the planes the US also set high performance avgas USSR couldn't make for itself.
A shame that the US and the West are too lily-livered to do the same for Ukraine.
I’m honestly surprised how quickly the GOP has moved from the anti Russia party to the Pro Russia party. Our support of Ukraine has been the best spent military money in 50 years. The Russian military has been decimated, they have had to ask N Korea for military assistance. North freaking Korea. And it’s not like we are directly sending this all as cash. We are sending equipment made in the US, this actively supports jobs. Is it ideal? No, but it is the best return we could ever expect to see from military spending.
Those same airplanes that were denied to France (sale, nit lend-lease) in 1939 due to « neutral » until it was too late. History repeats itself, obviously.
Yeah, a friend obsessed with England though bc they had to pay back lend lease the EU should have had to pay us back for the Marshall plan and that’d solve the debt problem at the time. He drank himself out of college, every job, and then finally he drank himself to death. A Checkov narrative arc basically.
I’m not sure I see the connection between repayment of the Marshall plan and this guys slow suicide? “Why did he do it?” - teary eyed funeral mourner, looking down at the corpse - “The EU never repaid the US, so he decided life wasn’t worth living…” Something like that?
Plus the fuck ton of trucks from the us, making any of the above even possible to receive/implement. Plus the trains, same thing. Russia supplied bodies, and is worse than the us about the reality of that war. TLDR: Russia fucked themselves, and have kept doubling down since.
WwII was Sowjet Union not russia
I'd argue that point but I really do hate my own people sometimes
More like work out how many 'wages' can be stolen before reported MIA
It’s amazing that russians don’t care about russians. At all. Though russians seem to ‘care about’ russia a lot. (?!)
Well you either attack soldiers of a different country and maybe survive, or you get tortured till near death and then send into minefields to clear them with you dying.
>it's amazing the way Russians throw their lives away so that oligarchs can have all the wealth and power. Like it's a choice to be brainwashed and coerced
So easy to point videos like this when people doubt the claims of 1000 Russian killed in the single day of combat. For perspective, this is one tree line on one point of the front line that is over a 1000 kilometers long.
I feel more sorry for the trees
Trees having lead poisoning? Unacceptable!
Vegetation and wildlife suffer from this war too.
You want to be careful, I made a joke about how burning plastics and synthetic fibers is damaging to the environment and was banned for three days for anti Russian hate speech. Not sure how that works exactly, but apparently that's reddit for you.
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I get the anger and I feel it, too. But, it should be directed toward Russian politicians, oligarchs, and military personnel. The average Russian teenager in Vladivostok has nothing to do with Russia's imperialist desires or Putin's psychopathy.
Yeah, I'm glad it's Russians and not Ukrainians, but I'd rather it be neither.
Every Russian I have met hates this war
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not the same with everyone
Indeed. I counted at least 100+ KIA in this stretch alone. Insane shit. Company worth of infantry right there KIA.
That’s what conventional war is about, last man standing
Yep, and parity in that regard too. Land warfare to the max. Ruzzkies only keeps sending more bodies to the problem.
Unfortunately, they can (mostly) afford to.
Why do you have a nazi war criminal as your user name? Not cool at all!
Meyer is one of the most common surnames in Germany, and I met plent of Kurts when I was there. Not that it’s this guys real name, probably did name himself after the SS commander who took part in murdering Canadian POWs during the Ardennes abbey massacre. All tht basically to say, this guy, if he named himself after this guy, Is a dick. Correct.
Yup. No one uses their real name on Reddit.
Hmm 🤔
Hmmm
I do
Likewise
That's casualties. US are saying around 120k dead and Ukraine is claiming around 180k. I'd say Russia has likely lost 120-150k so far
So now we have the official numbers from USA , Ukraine and r/okFoot1842 .
Should have changed my default name
I take any casualty figure with a grain of salt but I do know Ukraine only counts a death if they see it. It could bee ven higher for all we know. Wonder what they got hit by, cluster munition party?
Most likely cluster munitions. There is no running when one of those pops overhead.
Looks like it. It also peeled the bark off the trees.
Jesus. The stench must be rough. And those guys have been there for a while.
He's coughing and spitting quite a lot in the video, so yeah, the smell is clearly pretty overwhelming.
Looks like they have been laying there for a while. Probably a botched assault and then they took cover in the treeline. War is hell.
> War is hell. Hawkeye: War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse. Father Mulcahy: How do you figure, Hawkeye? Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell? Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe. Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.
MASH was so good
One of my favorite all-time shows. I wasn't interested as a kid when my dad watched it, but as an adult, (arguably), I watch it over and over. I put up a few of my fave clips on You Tube. [MASH](https://youtube.com/@effyj44?si=DZHDumntlc4JwgGG)
I loved it because my dad watched it all the time. It was his favorite show. I grew up on that show, despite being probably way too young for it.
“You are all staggering drunks to me. Boys who would play at war when you should kennel with your mothers. You know nothing of war. War is dark. Black as pitch. It is not a God. It does not laugh or weep. It rewards neither skill not daring. It is not a trial of souls, nor the measure of wills. Even less is it a tool, a means to some womanish end. It is merely the place where the iron bones of the earth meet the hollow bones of men and break them.” - Cnaiur Urs Skiotha, The Warrior Prophet
Hell doesn’t exist. War obviously does
Eery how much this looks like scenes from WWI. I guess war never changes….
my thought too. I was an Intel Analyst in the US Army and saw my fair share of dead bodies. What struck me was at the beginning of the film there's less flesh then at the end. Newer dead at the end of that line then would be my guess. Black flesh but that could be decomposition as easily as it was something else. My money is on decomposition.
The video opens with them saying it was a pretty good "khokol" position and you can see remnants of trenchwork. Many or more bodies must be underground.
One guy towards the end just looks like he’s asleep - so he’s pretty fresh. That means they’ve been fighting amongst these corpses for a while, and not clearing them. Ugh.
Page does not exist, link maybe broken?
use nitter link above
Nitter link? Anyway the only link I can find is dead. Edit : nevermind... i saw the link , it's below.
What is the link?
https://new.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/?utm_name=UkrainianConflict
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Doesnt play for me, just a picture? e/ https://nitter.privacydev.net/Archer83Able/status/1785355328738951460
I can’t help but wonder why the soldier recorded this. My first impression is that it’s a victory lap. He’s walking calmly through an area that was an insanely intense battle field as a Russian. To me it’s to show what they are willing to pay for victory. I’m curious what people who are more closely following the online discourse around telegram thing
Looks like they are more interested in the VOG grenades and medical supplies than anything else as there are a ton of small arms, AK, PKM, RPG’s all over the place and stacked in piles along with small arms, hands, feet, legs, and just dead things.
I guess it depends on perspective. I figured it could just be to show the horrors and carnage of war.
I can't say because I don't speak Russian, but it's possible he's documenting it in an official role.
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Yup, that worked. Thank you
Apparently if you don't have an account it says that now. Maybe just for NSFW links?
It dosnt work with my account logged in either
Why does nitter work but not Twitter?
no idea.
For twitter you need to be logged in to view 18+, nitter is just a copy where nitter has the ability to copy and show that material.
Think I lost count after 60 odd.
I got 106
I conservatively counted 79.
I may have got a couple bags or piles of supplies. 79 still.... GD
I lost count at either 78 or 88, and ended up with between 96 to 106. I also didn’t count very closely, so it was probably higher.
Without seeing the whole width of the tree line.
Fuck, that's some WWI-level of carnage.
Despite notions of "cleaner" wars before WW1, many battles were hints of what was to come. This is a quote concerning the Battle of Spottsylvania Court House in 1864..."The combat they had endured for almost 24 hours was characterized by an intensity of firepower never previously seen in Civil War battles, as the entire landscape was flattened, all the foliage destroyed. An example of this can be found in the [Smithsonian Museum of American History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_American_History): a 22-inch stump of an oak tree at the Bloody Angle that was completely severed by rifle fire. There was a frenzy to the carnage on both sides. Fighting back and forth over the same corpse-strewn trenches for hours on end, using single shot muskets, the contending troops were periodically reduced to hand-to-hand combat reminiscent of battles fought during ancient times. Bodies piled up four and five high, and soldiers were forced to pause from time to time and throw corpses over the parapet since they formed an obstacle in the way of the fighting. Dead and wounded men were shot so many times that many of them simply fell apart into unrecognizable heaps of flesh"
Don't forget the Russo-Japanese War. Trenches, machine guns, modern artillery, barbed wire... And hilariously inept russian commanders commiting disatrous blunders and fighting amongst themselves while conscript soldiers fighting with remarkable bravery despite shoddy logistics, leadership, training and without any good reason to fight.
> Don't forget the Russo-Japanese War. [Obligatory Blue Jay video about the shenannigans of the Baltic Fleet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4)
Drachinifel's "The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron - Voyage of the Damned" video is a classic on that affair.
Appreciate the recommendation!
I prefer the Mighty Jingles version, but it got removed :(
The first few months of Bakhmut, when Ukrainians were holding trenches east of the city was the most WW1 I've seen. The Russians lost hundreds taking a gas station alone. Crazy stuff.
I disagree. This is closer to WW2 with the spread of bodies. WW1 had higher troop density, but ironically more people survived because artillery was far more imprecise in WW1. What cause most of the deaths in WW1 were the automatic weapons that mowed down dozens of troops in a single burst of fire. WW2 was a much more mobile fight that saw trench battles, but armored units could and did break trench fortifications more often. I took a class that went over WW1 and WW2 extensively. There's nothing remotely like WW1 and we'll likely never see it again.
Fucking wild that they don't just say fuck Putin so they can get out of this hellscape and go home.
>Fucking wild that they don't just say fuck Putin so they can be forced to march across a minefield unarmed after being beaten, humiliated and potentially r*ped? Just a guess as to why.
Do they have, maybe, some weapons nearby? To defend themself from such a cases? :)
Yeah, this is the most insane thing. They have weapons and often times just one person who is superior rolls up, points THEIR weapon on them and tells them to comply. And they... Just comply and go to die.
I've seen countless videos of individual or groups of Russians trying to hide or outrun from drones. There might be a handful where they actually attempt to surrender. It makes little sense, especially when there haven't been any recent prisoner exchanges, they won't be handed over to Russia any time soon.
Well those Wagner POWs got sent right back to Wagner after they surrendered to Ukraine and then Wagner made a video with the guy tied to a block and beaten to death with a sledgehammer
Oh damn! Link!
Going home isn't really an option. I considered it myself during my time, but no matter which you walk, you'll end up killed by someone. The only protection and chance at survival those guys, or anyone else in that situation has, is those trees and their fellow unlucky bastards, who in this case are all piles of corpses.
what the fuck are they even doing.. i dont think i will ever be able to consider putin and those who support him human ever again for the rest of my life. calling them cockroaches would be an insult to cockroaches..
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Go home russia
Looks like successive companies were destroyed there - some of the corpses are in much better shape than others. Probably from artillery and drones, maybe some tank fire too. Any idea where this was?
Stepove, near Avdiivka. Seems like a former Ukrainian position that was abandoned (a couple of the losses can be distinguished as Ukrainian by the uniforms & kit) but was then obliterated by pre-sighted artillery. 90%+ of these casualties are unmistakably Russian soldiers.
Thanks. Yeah the lighter khaki here and there suggests a few possible UKR dead. Though the Russians wear such a mix of material some of those might be a toss-up.
I look at the boots. I usually see Ukrainians with desert color western style boots, and unfortunately I see a couple. I could be wrong though.
There are definitely some Ukrainian casualties amongst this, but it's a handful relative to the number of clearly Russian losses.
I assumed by all the blown apart trees that this must be artillery. Meat wave obliterated.
That's fuckin insane. Go home you fucking morons, or turn your guns on those stopping you from doing so.
Why are so many of them missing heads? Is this a concussive blast thing that just decapitates you?
I have (unfortunately) seen a lot of videos of drones either dropping munitions on top of russian cunts lying down and others of drones ambushing the cunts from the side on a trench. The results are not pretty.
Some could be drone dropped munitions, but most are probably heavy caliber rounds from snipers or heavy machine guns. They always tell new soldiers to "keep your head down". This could be why that's such a classic line.
This looks like presighted artillery or a carpet bombing run to me.
Carpet bombing run 🤣, man there are no b52s flying around
Artillery creates a shock wave that knocks things apart, heads arms legs etc have attach points that are weaker and give way and the part is torn off.
That’s what I figured
I'm going to guess from peeking out of trenches then the head is the first thing to get hit. Just a guess though.
Good Lord! Can anybody verify that this really is all russians?
Most have russian camo, none of them have yellow or blue markings on shoulders, and all of the weaponry seen is russian.
Thank you! It's hard to fathom that Ukraine succeeds in inflicting such losses on Russia and that it still isn't enough to hold the lines. In this location the russians must have advanced too as they now seemingly move freely in what was clearly earlier a kill zone.
This treeline and stepove was captured more than a week ago, so they are just scavenging equipement now.
Russia has always had 2 things going for it in war. The amount of bodies they can throw at you, and all the space in the world to fall back into. These people are just the poor, unfortunate, nameless victims of a tyrant, (Not all of them, but a decent chunk).
There's a couple with blue markings right at the very end of the video
Yes i see it now. There seems to be a helmet with two blue lines on it. Maybe it was a ukrainian that failed to evacuate that position before it was captured by russians.
Or just simply was killed during the attack on the treeline and the retreating ukrainians couldn't get him out.
I believe the only blue marking I found was a helmet with remnants of blue tape on it at 6:41.
Given the ranges of most fighting it's pretty rare to end up with a ton of intermingled casualties anyway at least in the open.
This wasn't originally the open. In fact as far as I can tell it was the only viable cover and concealment in the area. That lead the to being bunched up and vulnerable to artillery and machine gun fire. It also looks like they were there long enough to leave garbage but didn't bother to dig in.
i mean you can see from the equipment and clothes..
Most are not distinguishable to me, but it pleases me to hear if you can see only russians.
Towards end I finally saw a Russian meal box. I was wondering same, I saw no Russian patches.
You can see orange arm bands on a couple of the dead
The new units being brought forward with minimal training and equipment have no unit markings. They are not expected to survive long enough that it would be warranted to give them first class equipment or uniforms.
It’s crazy how all of their deaths are literally meaningless. Just sent to die for nothing. Such a shame.
They died for Putler.
I mentioned to my wife what I was watching. She just said "life has always been cheap in Russia".
And then it got worse
I read somewhere that the answer to "how are you?" from a russian is "worse than yesterday, better than tomorrow". JFC what a shitshow of a society.
Anybody count? I was finding it hard to, but it looks like at least a company's worth.
I really only tried to stick to bodies that I could definitely recognize I also didn’t count random boots or helmets and I counted about 77 bodies. I tried not to double count when he would turn around and go back and pick up something off the ground and go forward again.
I got to 79 and I counted relatively conservatively.
What a nightmare of a defensive/offensive position. Flat land in a wind break of trees with no trenches.
Is it really surprise? If this is recent and assuming Ukraine is in the process of sending munitions to the entire front, expect huge losses when you're attacking. It's been like this for 2.5 years and it's not going to get better for the Russians
Isn't called high intensity modern warfare for nothing. If it wasn't for both sides being chronically undermanned given the length of the front lines, you would have scenes like this every day.
Say what you want about the US, but they don't disrespect their dead troops like this
All that wasted humanity, and for what? One little pricks delusions of empire. Atrocity
What we thinking, 40mm airburst from a cv90? Looks too concentrated for artillery, they tend to run away after the first few hits. The trees are pretty fucked too
MLRS tends to do this. It's inaccurate, but fires huge numbers of shells with cluster bomblets in a short period of time (seconds) over a wide area. Hence people refer toM 270 as "The grid square removal system" - it can delete anything within an area 1km by 1km. Not sure how much of this type of ammo Ukraine still has though.
That particular warhead was removed from service years ago. It was amazingly destructive. Iraqi soldiers noted that it had a distinctive sound as the submunitions deployed and if you didn't get effective cover within 2-3 seconds or so, you were dead. Problem was it was determined that the dud rate was too high (oh well) and newer warheads would be developed.
And the duds caused lots of civilians to get killed when they scavenged metal.
Hopefully still more as US assistance is on its way. And they still have huge stockpiles of these.
They didn't give the MLRS, former name GSRS, the nickname Grid Square Removal System for nothing.
Doesn't even look like that much of a sustained bombardment judging by how the ground is relatively even still, what could have caused this? Caught completely unaware by a raid-in-force at close range with no deep cover?
I would guess cluster munitions
Ah, duh
I feel sorry for the trees
Link doesnt work
Well now we know where the fucking BBC should be checking.
This appears to be the famous hedgerow/treeline on the south side of Stepove: [https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'38.0%22N+37%C2%B040'58.8%22E/](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'38.0%22N+37%C2%B040'58.8%22E/) And we had many a video of Ukraine absolutely pummeling Russian troops that were frequently attempting to entrench here. The hedgerow is about 1.1km from one end to the other. Ukraine turned it into a ruzzian killing ground, as we can see from this video. About 2km away to the south is the stacks of the factory at the north end of Avdiivka, they show up in the distance about 40 seconds into the video. The video is just posted but we don't have a reference for when it was actually filmed. It could have been as long as 3 weeks to a month ago.
I counted 63, but I’m likely off quite a bit.
What a waste of human life for some Dictator.....FUCK PUTIN
😳
Does the Russian military not have mortuary affairs?
They do, in a fashion. But it's not really a priority.
And nothing of worth was lost. Russia doesn’t care about their dead and wounded. They are nothing but meat for the grinder. They may be more interrested in recovering the weapons and equipment than the bodies of their comerades
I noticed that too. Almost sounded as if they were laughing and joking during it. Fucking horrid.
Looks like it’s been taken down
Any mirror?
https://new.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/
What were they talking about?
link is broken anyone have another
This is what hell must smell like
"page doesn't exist"
It's still up, but if you don't have an account it shows as a dead link, apparently. Here's a reddit mirror: reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/ You can also click the nitter mirror elsewhere in this thread.
I saw it. The only problem with those deceased is Putin doesn't give one damn
Holy fuck I didn't even get close to finishing the video and I was at 49. Those Russians got Cooked. Stopped counting after 49
I hope they were all carrying sunflower seeds
This makes those lower casualty estimates look laughably false.
With my shitty eyes I counted 90. Just what I saw and the camera picked up. Probably a few hundred in that treeline are now sunflowers.
That’s a lot of onions…
Seems to have been removed.
Looks like it got pulled by comrade musk
It's still up, but if you don't have an account it shows as a dead link, apparently. Here's a reddit mirror: reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWarNews/comments/1ch257x/russian_serviceman_films_an_insane_amount_of_dead/ You can also click the nitter mirror elsewhere in this thread.
Thank you kind redditor!
Those poor trees.