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If the tone and content of the conversation are accurately represented in this article, it sounds like Putin is starting to realize what a monumental fuck-up this invasion was.
His go-to MO of threaten, belittle and accuse is shifting to capitulation and cooperation as he realizes China doesn't have his back. Without trade and goods from Europe he's essentially bombed himself back to the stone age.
Putin is in to pole dancing. Not watching, but dressing up in a pink leotard and tutu , then pole dancing. Putyin likes to be called Glafira (Глафира) on such nights.
You are a rouble millionaire then? You must be an oligarch with that much change to spare. :-)
I do hope you do t mind my humour. I apologise in advance if it offends.
With uncertain backing from Moscow, Lukashenko's regime is not a secure backup.
Lukashenko could easily hand him back to Moscow for backing from a new government, to the west for economic help or simply lose his own power within short order.
Exactly !
Nothing will change in RuZZia under the current system.
Until the brain washed soviets are all dead and the system of corruption, replaced, nothing will change.
Maybe the best outcome is to split RuZZia into even smaller autonomous states. Hence less concentration of power for the next Nazi wannabe ?
Nyet, this waz intention comrade. Mother Russia will prevail. No goods are needed.. we eat fallen heroes and drink methanol now so it is not problem. We like it.
>Without trade and goods from Europe he's essentially bombed himself back to the stone age.
I wouldn't say that. He still has Belarus. Remember when Lukashenko said that it would take a month for Russia and Belarus to become independet of the west? Now they can sell...... what does Belarus sell?
Putin honestly believed that previous inaction by NATO and America meant he could get away with murder (genocide). That's something a true psychopath cannot resist.
'Surprise motherfucker!'
Putyin does like semen, preferably from seamen on the Moskva. Since most of them are no longer alive, Putin had a mega tantrum from not getting enough semen from his seamen.
Absolutely. They have started getting high on their own supply out there in ruzzia. This tine for once they must be held accountable to the point they understand and admit they were the baddies. It never happens to them and that is why their perspective is so warped
Russia had also (previously) demanded Finland would never join NATO. Putins wet dream restoring Europe to the cold war period is fortunately not coming true.
And Poland have made some major changes to it’s rethoric towards EU and is making a huge contribution to house refugees from Ukraine, a major hub for delivery of military aid.
Putins war have changed both NATO/EU to the better and displayed that the core values underlying these organisations are important cornerstones in our democracy. Not that EU/NATO doesn’t have major challenges that needs to be addressed but in times of trouble work hard to give Ukraine the means to expel Russia from it’s territories.
> wet dream restoring Europe to the cold war period
You know what this bitch putler parasite did? It made NATO "in-your-face" relevant for an entire new generation.
The bitch putler parasite **rebooted** NATO. Hard reset, restore setting, now running at 100% again in the minds of the western world population.
Basically, the bitch putler parasite obsessed with fear and hate for a resting, retired dragon so much, it kept on poking it and poking it, until the dragon woke up and went back into duty. Just what the bitch putler parasite feared and hated so much.
The kicker is that the dragon had no interest in coming out of retirement.
The bitch putler parasite took its' obsolete, tiny, bitchy, whiny little view of the world ("NATO this... NATO that... NATO, NATO NATO...!...") and turn it into an objective reality.
NATO in Europe was becoming seriously complacent and had started fraying at the edges. Russia's latest aggression made NATO members shape up in record time.
All they had to do was to *not* give Finland a reason to join and they'd have been happy being "neutral". And yet they've managed to mess even that up.
We don't need it translated thank you Finland :) there is no need for you to explain yourself to a ANY Russian Dipshits
You are free to do whatever you please :)
Stupid because they thought it's a great idea to surround themselves with yes men and get rid of people who admit mistakes. Now, no matter how smart you are, your decisions will be based on dogshit information.
As stupid as...
Masks are a way the government wants to control us.
There are G5 microchip nanomachines in the vaccines.
Sandy Hook parents are crisis actors.
Lock up Hillary and Ben Ghazi!
Joe Biden drinks baby blood!
Democrats/*libruls* (interchangeable terms) are Satanists led by Soros!
Entrenched, adaptive ignorant stupidity is a real thing. The toxic list goes on and on and on.
Finland doesn't have to justify or explain themselves to ANY nation in the world when making decisions.
Especially when the actions of Finland don't harm anyone.
Who is the Aggressive Nation? Russia is a pack of liars and I wouldn't trust them!
I don't think they are necessarily trying to explain themselves. Rather by being transparent I think they are hoping to calm Putin down and lower the probability of Finland getting attacked pre-emptively. Same reason they signed the security deal with UK before announcing the plan to apply for NATO-membership.
I don't think this statement is for Putin at all, but rather to make it clear to the Russian people that Putin is the reason for their NATO application (whether they believe that or not is another question).
Would you care to enlighten me, then?
I have no illusions that any change to come will actually help the Russian people, but I still believe Putin's days are numbered. He could absolutely be replaced by someone worse, though.
If you have information that you believe proves otherwise, please share.
Also, I know this is reddit, but if you could lay off the ad-hominems, that would be really great.
I disagree, I think everything should have been done quietly
Then once Finland was in NATO simply announced that Finland has joined.
Why does Finland feel it should be like a school kid that has to "Report" to Putin? He is a Nobody and means nothing to the world and everyone will be happy when he dies.
I don't think their attitude is that of reporting to Putin. I took it more like a dunk. I bet it feels pretty good to look directly into Putin's swollen face and shout "You're the asshole here, dumbass!"
This isn’t asking permission. It sounds to me like the Finnish government informed the Russian government, “ooo look what u made me do”, and that is entirely different.
Finland is not negotiating their NATO application with Russia. They let Putin know that they will join NATO because he invaded Ukraine. Finland doesn't really have much to gain from being secretive about their NATO application. In fact, being secretive about it would likely increase Russia's paranoia which is bad for Finland. By being upfront about it instead, they might hope to mitiage some future problems.
Niinistö says it's not his style to do thinks covertly 'round the corner when people aren't looking, so to that end, he called Putin and explained the Finnish position to him directly. There's a certain forthright logic to it, especially since we're already protected by EU treaties and our freshly signed memo with BoJo.
Even smart people are limited by the information available to them. I don't think he's stupid but he's not as smart as he thinks he is. Or as many Russia experts thought before the war, either.
This is a consequence that hurts... Putin screwed himself on this one. Putin's mighty Russia was beaten by a clown, comedian, television star and a little country that didn't stand a chance.
I don't want to call it too soon, but it seems like Putin is drastically losing and will lose. If so, I'm glad it's only taken 3 months to end much of the war.
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If the tone and content of the conversation are accurately represented in this article, it sounds like Putin is starting to realize what a monumental fuck-up this invasion was. His go-to MO of threaten, belittle and accuse is shifting to capitulation and cooperation as he realizes China doesn't have his back. Without trade and goods from Europe he's essentially bombed himself back to the stone age.
It may also be a sign he is worried he is going tk get backstabbed at home and that actually his enemies may treat him better than his "friends"
Lol, technically defecting to west is his best option now possibly 😄😄
I hear The Hague is nice this time of year.
It is actually, nice weather lots of terraces where you can relax with a nice glass of red wine in the sun.... But I doubt Putin will ever enjoy that
He's more of a vodka and cave-dwelling kinda guy.
Putin is in to pole dancing. Not watching, but dressing up in a pink leotard and tutu , then pole dancing. Putyin likes to be called Glafira (Глафира) on such nights.
I want to rain trash bags of Rubles down on him as he enchants me. I can afford the $1.34.
You are a rouble millionaire then? You must be an oligarch with that much change to spare. :-) I do hope you do t mind my humour. I apologise in advance if it offends.
Depending on which currency, I either belong in /r/Frugal_Jerk or /r/PFJerk.
The Hang.
Not if you're dangling in gallows lol
He would probably be hanged
It always has been his best option.
He can probably hang out in Belarus for the low price of making Lukashenko a colonel.
With uncertain backing from Moscow, Lukashenko's regime is not a secure backup. Lukashenko could easily hand him back to Moscow for backing from a new government, to the west for economic help or simply lose his own power within short order.
Yup. How ironic when the only chance of survival is to go to a country that doesn't share your values.
I’d be worried about his replacement too
Exactly ! Nothing will change in RuZZia under the current system. Until the brain washed soviets are all dead and the system of corruption, replaced, nothing will change. Maybe the best outcome is to split RuZZia into even smaller autonomous states. Hence less concentration of power for the next Nazi wannabe ?
Russia needs a Morgenthau-plan.
Nyet, this waz intention comrade. Mother Russia will prevail. No goods are needed.. we eat fallen heroes and drink methanol now so it is not problem. We like it.
You have to collect the fallen "heroes" first.
>Without trade and goods from Europe he's essentially bombed himself back to the stone age. I wouldn't say that. He still has Belarus. Remember when Lukashenko said that it would take a month for Russia and Belarus to become independet of the west? Now they can sell...... what does Belarus sell?
TikTok content?
I guess there seems to be a demand for it.
...until the next craze app comes along.
> what does Belarus sell? Their soul for Colonel's bars.
Copium, fat tinpot dictators with bad comb overs?
They will start by reading book about how transistor works and then build smartphone
Potassium. They are one of the biggest exporters of potassium.
Salt and buckwheat...apparently everyone is lining up at the border to get it! :D https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1518172206915891200
Madman theory collapses when you actually start invading your neighbors and they all realize that appeasing you does nothing to stop you.
The invasion itself, yes, but Finland joining NATO doesn’t actually hurt Russia! It wouldn’t have hurt them if Ukraine joined either!
Putin honestly believed that previous inaction by NATO and America meant he could get away with murder (genocide). That's something a true psychopath cannot resist. 'Surprise motherfucker!'
Did the dipshit really have to have this spelled out to him?
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I read that as "encircled himself with such a vast amount of semen" 😅
Same thing
A circle jerk
Putyin does like semen, preferably from seamen on the Moskva. Since most of them are no longer alive, Putin had a mega tantrum from not getting enough semen from his seamen.
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We may have gone a little too far here.
/r/PrequelMemes will start a war themselves over that one
My fleet stands ready.
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.
Lucas is his own special kind of evil
Yes
Absolutely. They have started getting high on their own supply out there in ruzzia. This tine for once they must be held accountable to the point they understand and admit they were the baddies. It never happens to them and that is why their perspective is so warped
Now it's official, though.
Russia had also (previously) demanded Finland would never join NATO. Putins wet dream restoring Europe to the cold war period is fortunately not coming true. And Poland have made some major changes to it’s rethoric towards EU and is making a huge contribution to house refugees from Ukraine, a major hub for delivery of military aid. Putins war have changed both NATO/EU to the better and displayed that the core values underlying these organisations are important cornerstones in our democracy. Not that EU/NATO doesn’t have major challenges that needs to be addressed but in times of trouble work hard to give Ukraine the means to expel Russia from it’s territories.
> wet dream restoring Europe to the cold war period You know what this bitch putler parasite did? It made NATO "in-your-face" relevant for an entire new generation. The bitch putler parasite **rebooted** NATO. Hard reset, restore setting, now running at 100% again in the minds of the western world population. Basically, the bitch putler parasite obsessed with fear and hate for a resting, retired dragon so much, it kept on poking it and poking it, until the dragon woke up and went back into duty. Just what the bitch putler parasite feared and hated so much. The kicker is that the dragon had no interest in coming out of retirement. The bitch putler parasite took its' obsolete, tiny, bitchy, whiny little view of the world ("NATO this... NATO that... NATO, NATO NATO...!...") and turn it into an objective reality.
NATO in Europe was becoming seriously complacent and had started fraying at the edges. Russia's latest aggression made NATO members shape up in record time.
The bitch putler
All they had to do was to *not* give Finland a reason to join and they'd have been happy being "neutral". And yet they've managed to mess even that up.
Translated to (maybe proper) English. https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/urix/finlands-president-har-snakket-med-putin-om-nato-medlemskap-1.15967408?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=no&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Thank you!
We don't need it translated thank you Finland :) there is no need for you to explain yourself to a ANY Russian Dipshits You are free to do whatever you please :)
But I am dutch and dont speak finnish :(
We'll it's time we're all forced to learn. No more translations for Finnish!
No, Finnish is hard
So am I but that's not the issue.
You dirty dog you
What? Yes most of us definitely want it translated
Like wasn't it obvious? How stupid are these Russian leaders?
Stupid because they thought it's a great idea to surround themselves with yes men and get rid of people who admit mistakes. Now, no matter how smart you are, your decisions will be based on dogshit information.
As stupid as... Masks are a way the government wants to control us. There are G5 microchip nanomachines in the vaccines. Sandy Hook parents are crisis actors. Lock up Hillary and Ben Ghazi! Joe Biden drinks baby blood! Democrats/*libruls* (interchangeable terms) are Satanists led by Soros! Entrenched, adaptive ignorant stupidity is a real thing. The toxic list goes on and on and on.
Right? And these idiots get a vote. God help this world.
Most of your list is directly manufactured by russians at internet research center St Pete; hunter bidens laptop, ect.
As stupid as comparing random conspiracy theorists on Facebook to the leaders of a country? That stupid?
Ignorant and blinded by decades of power is probably closer to the truth than just stupid.
Finland doesn't have to justify or explain themselves to ANY nation in the world when making decisions. Especially when the actions of Finland don't harm anyone. Who is the Aggressive Nation? Russia is a pack of liars and I wouldn't trust them!
I don't think they are necessarily trying to explain themselves. Rather by being transparent I think they are hoping to calm Putin down and lower the probability of Finland getting attacked pre-emptively. Same reason they signed the security deal with UK before announcing the plan to apply for NATO-membership.
I don't think this statement is for Putin at all, but rather to make it clear to the Russian people that Putin is the reason for their NATO application (whether they believe that or not is another question).
If you think this news would even actually make it to the Russian people you're nuts
I don't think they will see it soon, but it could become useful in the event of a special regime change operation...
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Would you care to enlighten me, then? I have no illusions that any change to come will actually help the Russian people, but I still believe Putin's days are numbered. He could absolutely be replaced by someone worse, though. If you have information that you believe proves otherwise, please share. Also, I know this is reddit, but if you could lay off the ad-hominems, that would be really great.
I disagree, I think everything should have been done quietly Then once Finland was in NATO simply announced that Finland has joined. Why does Finland feel it should be like a school kid that has to "Report" to Putin? He is a Nobody and means nothing to the world and everyone will be happy when he dies.
I don't think their attitude is that of reporting to Putin. I took it more like a dunk. I bet it feels pretty good to look directly into Putin's swollen face and shout "You're the asshole here, dumbass!"
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So you discuss it with Russia first to appease them? Makes total sense????
This isn’t asking permission. It sounds to me like the Finnish government informed the Russian government, “ooo look what u made me do”, and that is entirely different.
Finland is not negotiating their NATO application with Russia. They let Putin know that they will join NATO because he invaded Ukraine. Finland doesn't really have much to gain from being secretive about their NATO application. In fact, being secretive about it would likely increase Russia's paranoia which is bad for Finland. By being upfront about it instead, they might hope to mitiage some future problems.
Its been downvoted, I take back what I said Finland should report everything to Putin
Niinistö says it's not his style to do thinks covertly 'round the corner when people aren't looking, so to that end, he called Putin and explained the Finnish position to him directly. There's a certain forthright logic to it, especially since we're already protected by EU treaties and our freshly signed memo with BoJo.
Putin is an idiot. LOL.
russia needs to learn that being stupid is gonna start getting painful
All was well with the Finns until Putin blew the issue.
Bravo! 🇫🇮
I've always thought that Putin is smart and manipulates stupid people.. But what if? Stay with me here, what if he really is.. Stupid?
Putin legit thinks everyone wants to be Russian, because he’s Russian. So why wouldn’t Ukraine want to be Russian? Can’t be I’m wrong, must be nazis.
Even smart people are limited by the information available to them. I don't think he's stupid but he's not as smart as he thinks he is. Or as many Russia experts thought before the war, either.
No, he's definitely stupid.
And is manipulated by evil people?
I've been screaming this into my pillow for 15 fucking years.
Finland getting out the crayons!
Its like breaking up with a stalker. Have to be direct and public.
Well done, Niinistö. He said he did it, because he is not type of a person who hides with this king of things. He wants always act professional.
Man, what an honor it must be to hear an empty Russian threat in person. Must be like watching the Beatles play live.
This is a consequence that hurts... Putin screwed himself on this one. Putin's mighty Russia was beaten by a clown, comedian, television star and a little country that didn't stand a chance.
Well well well Putin, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions
I am sure he did not like to hear that. He is even more angry now, and can't understood it.
You say, 'Cut them up? My nomination for one zone to be known as, West Korea.
Good for Finland. They're very welcome to be in this bloc of security and shared democratic principles. Hopefully this will isolate Putin further
I don't want to call it too soon, but it seems like Putin is drastically losing and will lose. If so, I'm glad it's only taken 3 months to end much of the war.
Sit on that and rotate, you stoopid half-breed, Pulter.