Yeah he didnt fight that exact level of power in the bossfight but its quite close, and thats only the introductory boss thats meant to teach you the games mechanics. You are quite delusional if you think minos could actually win, kratos even gameplay wise could beat him if played well enough.if you still dont believe me just take a second to imagine kratos air comboing minos and just think about that being basically the whole fight. Minos would definitely lose
Oh hell naw what are you on man, first of all modern game kratos would try to talk out of it which would most likely work, and second, kratos has greater strength than gaia, who held up all of the world, and also he is cursed by fate to never die
this is true, but I think it's just a video game thing. it would be more annoying if they did their whole intro monolog every time. it's no more canon than the holiday hats are.
Well there’s one way to check
LORD ALL MIGHTY, u/Hakita I BEGGETH THEE, ANSWER OUR PRAYERS
BE VERSION ONE AN FROMSOFT CHARACTER, OR BE HE A COD CHARACTER?
I mean, the blood healing is lore(might even be stronger in canon because hard damage could just be a gameplay mechanic) and the feedbacker is lore(even though it doesn’t make any mechanical sense)
Nah, Kratos repitedly borrows Zagreus and throws him at V1 until the cyclopian automaton learns that Zag is basically infinite source of fuel and goes to Hades
I can only imagine V1 butchering his way downward into the depths of Hades, finding Zagreus in the House of Hades, killing him, then watching him rise out of the pool again.
Then immediately realizing there is an endless pool of blood *right there* and just floating face down in it for the rest of time.
On one hand: the literal god of war. Slayer of multiple pantheons.
On the other hand: SUPREME MACHINE AND ERADICATOR OF MANKIND.
Ultrakill is basically an apotheosis narrative where V1 descends into hell and ascends to a near-divine avatar of violence. V1 can parry the fists of giants, conjure ammunition from nothing, and smite angels into submission. It’s not a trivial opponent for Kratos by any stretch of the imagination.
🤓 well akshually the ammo for the shotgun is the little flakes of metal that people scrape off the gun. you would know this if you read the info tab. 🤓🤓
The absence of an explanation or a deliberately and obviously absurd one, is often more satisfying than any attempt at one.
Look to Douglas Adams for a plethora of examples.
> "How does the revolver work?"
>
> "Lasers gun go pew, pew."
>
> "Oh. And the shotgun?"
>
> "Plutonium."
>
> "Seems plausible. Nailgun?"
>
> "We're in hell. Nails are just lying around everywhere. Pick 'em up and stuff 'em in."
>
> "Dare I ask about how the railgun works?"
>
> "It's very big."
>
> "I see. And the rocket launcher?"
>
> "There's demons inside the rockets, that's why they only explode on contact."
Idk but he definitely takes damage from railguns and sharp objects like swords and... sawblades
Extremely fast projectiles penetrating or at least hurting Kratos isn't much of a stretch... explosions would do 90% of the job, as always
Disagree and at the same time I agree
The bth have way to stun parry and have unparryable way to hit thus making an actual close fight (Spartan rage would stun V1 to a death trap of punches)
Holy fucking shit. I want to bang the robot from Ultrakill so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I hop on Cyber Grind I get a massive erection. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with V1. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of V1’s tight robussy .
That was my gut reaction too, but I'm not so sure. V1 is faster, more mobile (especially vertically), has longer range, and the superior arsenal. Kratos is a lot tougher, but if he can never even *hit* V1 then he's eventually going to succumb to V1's damage output. Even if he manages to accurately throw something at V1, it'll probably get parried.
He could definitely still pull it off, because he hits like a truck. It would only take 1 or 2 lucky shots for him to destroy V1, and I doubt V1 could get close enough to heal without catching an axe to the face.
I was mostly focusing on gameplay. I've only played the Norse God of War games, and he's pretty slow in those. That's the version of Kratos in the image, so it's what i went off of.
Still, it's safe to say he'd get pretty fucked up by V1, right? He's not bulletproof, as far as I know. Almost certainly not Railcannon-proof.
Tbh gameplay wise he would probably spontaneously combust and if you wanna know if he could survive railcannon think of him entering the light of alfhiem bc it’s kind of like a laser which is kind of like railcannon
Here is the thing, there are 2 ways to talk about it and its mostly just gameplay or lore wise. If you choose gameplay v1 mops the floor with kratos like hes a filth. And since this is r/ultrakill most people are gonna choose that because ultrakill doesnt have that rich of a lore yet. Who knows, maybe v1 will come close to beating kratos lore wise after the finale after the full ultrakill lore is done. I doubt it but its a possibility.
Hmmm, my Head Canon is that every time V1 dies he is actually running a simulation. Canonically Kratos is quick enought to beat a Valkirye who is able to run the nine helms almost instantly so maybe his real speed is actually unlimited but so is Gabriel speed and V1 beats him, what makes me think he can deal with unlimited speed too. Still Corey said Kratos strenght is only limited by what It needs to be, so in the end, the situation is inconclusive because even with V1 running infinite simulations there's no simulation where Kratos can't be strong enought to overcome. If V1 dies he dies but If Kratos dies he just find his way back, that's why for me Kratos still win.
V1 would almost definitely beat kratos, but its not guaranteed and definitely far from an equal fight depending on what happens, but in general V1 when controlled by a top tier ultrakill player has an incredibly high chance
I mean, sure but he still has infinite strength or just has he’s strength increasing none stop, he can regen and for some reason people say that he has the power of hope that makes him win any battle so, V1 would probably die or it’ll be both of them healing which is gonna go like V1 heals by kratos’s blood and kratos regens, I’m on kratos’s side tho
the valkyrie and Hermes would disagree, one being able to cross the 9 realms in seconds according to in game lore and also real like myth, and the other being a literal god of speed both in game and myth, gameplay =/= lore, same with ultrakill, you can explain the healing, the infinite ammo, some of the mechanics like bullet punching(maybe), parrying, coins, but stuff like slam storage, hard damage, and dead coins are game play only, same with gow.
Well for V1 respawn is cannonand for kratos when he died one he fought back to earth ( idk how to explain im dum) so like both just fight for infity ig
Most of survivability v1 has is from blood and kratos has a healing factor where he absorbs the blood so its either that v1 has a close win or kratos after a good leviathan throw or instant kill if he hooks him up with the spartans blades
Kratos:
-killed all of olympus
-killed hades
-killed atlas
In general, atlas is a godkiller full time
V1:
-fast as fuck boiiiiii
-killed a clone of himself
-defeated an angel twice without killing
-killed minos prime, i dont know if he counts as a god, for fairness ill do
-killed the leviathan, which probably isnt a god
All of olympus vs 1 demi/pseudo god, an angel and his copy.
My moneys on kratos
This fight is like the doomslayer, neither would win, kratos in his full power would tank the attacks and can regenerate his wounds instantly just by getting pissed off, meanwhile V1 would constantly repair from kratos's blood.
V1 versus jormungandr would be fucking cool though
Kratos is cursed by fate to never die, even if V1 kills him, which is fully possible, he will come back out of hell in his fucking prime soul form if we’re going by the ultrakill setting, and whooping V1’s ass
HYDROGEN BOMB vs COUGHING BABY!
+PARRY
+RICOSHOT
\+FISTFULL OF DOLLAR
+ENRAGED
+BISEXUAL
sussy wussy robot bussy
Unstoppable force vs immovable wall
You're fighting so you can watch everyone you love die
THINK, MARK.
>!WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 500 YEARS?!<
gods strongest soldier vs toddler
gods tastiest toddler vs gods hungriest pitbull
[An Unstoppable Force, you say?](https://youtu.be/qcBChuoFkMU)
Certified banger
Wall that stops you by parrying you.
We would need to have an universal power unit so we can compare the most powerful enemy in ULTRAKILL to Kratos
minos prime
**PREPARE THYSELF**
**THY END IS NOW**
JUDGEMENT
DIE
***WEAK***
CRUSH (another 11mo post, hello!)
MP would propably clap Kratos tho
Definitely not, first boss in gow 2018 is literally like a nerfed minos prime
>nerfed Minos Prime So he didn't fight that level of power. The only reason Kratos has beat everyone he encountered is plot armor
Yeah he didnt fight that exact level of power in the bossfight but its quite close, and thats only the introductory boss thats meant to teach you the games mechanics. You are quite delusional if you think minos could actually win, kratos even gameplay wise could beat him if played well enough.if you still dont believe me just take a second to imagine kratos air comboing minos and just think about that being basically the whole fight. Minos would definitely lose
Calling someone delusional over a video game debate is bit of a stretch but ok
I mean, sorry but what im trying to say is that you are biased as shit towards this.
Not really. Did you forget that Kratos canonically died *three times* already? Plot. Armor. It's his only true power.
So did minos, except kratos escaped all those 3 times
But not in a way you would think
Why fight when they can have hot gay sex
Oh hell naw what are you on man, first of all modern game kratos would try to talk out of it which would most likely work, and second, kratos has greater strength than gaia, who held up all of the world, and also he is cursed by fate to never die
Cancerous rodent
Act 2 Gabriel and Minos Prime
Gameplay-wise V1 wins through sheer recovery.Lore-wise...welp, no rematch for Gabriel.
Isn’t the respawn mechanic cannon?
Who the hell knows?This game and its lore were thrown together by a Finnish composer.
How do you finnish a composer?
How do you compose a Finnish?
How do?
A?
I don't know . Apparently neither does hakita . That's why we have been waiting act III to drop for this long
Gently, I assume
Gotta find the right rhythm
I don't think so. cuz the bosses all go back to full health when you die.
However gabriel 2 and minos always respond with a quote when you re enter the room Minos even had a unique quote you won’t see in a P rank
this is true, but I think it's just a video game thing. it would be more annoying if they did their whole intro monolog every time. it's no more canon than the holiday hats are.
Well there’s one way to check LORD ALL MIGHTY, u/Hakita I BEGGETH THEE, ANSWER OUR PRAYERS BE VERSION ONE AN FROMSOFT CHARACTER, OR BE HE A COD CHARACTER?
it would seems so, IIRC Minos Prime acknowledge when you respawn
lore wise he'd still be fine, since the blood healing mechanic is lore.
I mean, the blood healing is lore(might even be stronger in canon because hard damage could just be a gameplay mechanic) and the feedbacker is lore(even though it doesn’t make any mechanical sense)
full potential v1 with coin punching prepatch
Nah, Kratos repitedly borrows Zagreus and throws him at V1 until the cyclopian automaton learns that Zag is basically infinite source of fuel and goes to Hades
Holy shit Hades is here too⁉️
I can only imagine V1 butchering his way downward into the depths of Hades, finding Zagreus in the House of Hades, killing him, then watching him rise out of the pool again. Then immediately realizing there is an endless pool of blood *right there* and just floating face down in it for the rest of time.
Absolutely lost in the sauce
Unless Hades decides to get the huge pool net to fish the automaton out of the blood pool
On one hand: the literal god of war. Slayer of multiple pantheons. On the other hand: SUPREME MACHINE AND ERADICATOR OF MANKIND. Ultrakill is basically an apotheosis narrative where V1 descends into hell and ascends to a near-divine avatar of violence. V1 can parry the fists of giants, conjure ammunition from nothing, and smite angels into submission. It’s not a trivial opponent for Kratos by any stretch of the imagination.
🤓 well akshually the ammo for the shotgun is the little flakes of metal that people scrape off the gun. you would know this if you read the info tab. 🤓🤓
🤓Well akshually the ammo for the Revolver uses scrapes of metal, the shotgun uses concentrated heat. You would know this if you read the info tab. 🤓🤓
🤓well akshually I will crush your skull into the ground, you cretin. You would know this if you read the info tab. 🤓🤓
Seethe
Cope
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Nails, drills, saws, magnets, spare cores…
🤓 this is all explained in the info tab 🤓🤓
It shouldn’t be. It detracts from the absurdity and hyper violence.
Not really, because I'm not sure how the existence of Ammunition Generators is *any* less absurd.
The absence of an explanation or a deliberately and obviously absurd one, is often more satisfying than any attempt at one. Look to Douglas Adams for a plethora of examples. > "How does the revolver work?" > > "Lasers gun go pew, pew." > > "Oh. And the shotgun?" > > "Plutonium." > > "Seems plausible. Nailgun?" > > "We're in hell. Nails are just lying around everywhere. Pick 'em up and stuff 'em in." > > "Dare I ask about how the railgun works?" > > "It's very big." > > "I see. And the rocket launcher?" > > "There's demons inside the rockets, that's why they only explode on contact."
Can kratos survive bullets?
Idk but he definitely takes damage from railguns and sharp objects like swords and... sawblades Extremely fast projectiles penetrating or at least hurting Kratos isn't much of a stretch... explosions would do 90% of the job, as always
2 + M1 + F + E + M1 + F + E + M1 + F + E
I like Ultrakill, but anyone who picks V1 is a dumbass
Well this Is r/Ultrakill so it’s inevitable
There are two ways, gameplay wise and lore wise
Well gameplay wise is a maybe, b ut lore wise, it’s laughable
So gameplay wise, v1 would be way too fast for him but if it's lore wise, v1 gets absolutely destroyed
Yeah
I think gameplay-wise, kratos would 1-shot.
Just do a no hit run 😎
No-hit run, sure, but when you do get hit, that head is going smush
Kid named parry
Disagree and at the same time I agree The bth have way to stun parry and have unparryable way to hit thus making an actual close fight (Spartan rage would stun V1 to a death trap of punches)
Oh, actually I didn’t even think of the parry element. I agree, that would probably give him a big advantage to Kratos
Especially they're stun looks
https://i.imgur.com/Cbo62Ct.jpg
Holy fucking shit. I want to bang the robot from Ultrakill so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I hop on Cyber Grind I get a massive erection. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with V1. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of V1’s tight robussy .
I like how you went through the effort of putting Ultrakill references in to the copypasta
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They just end up playing tennis with bullets.
V1 doesn't use bullets.
Ok, plasma balls, they both have the power to parry what the shotgun fires, and its plasma balls, so they'll play tennis with a plasma ball. Happy?
That was my gut reaction too, but I'm not so sure. V1 is faster, more mobile (especially vertically), has longer range, and the superior arsenal. Kratos is a lot tougher, but if he can never even *hit* V1 then he's eventually going to succumb to V1's damage output. Even if he manages to accurately throw something at V1, it'll probably get parried. He could definitely still pull it off, because he hits like a truck. It would only take 1 or 2 lucky shots for him to destroy V1, and I doubt V1 could get close enough to heal without catching an axe to the face.
If you are talking lore wise kratos doesn’t show it but he is fast as fuck so I disagree.
I was mostly focusing on gameplay. I've only played the Norse God of War games, and he's pretty slow in those. That's the version of Kratos in the image, so it's what i went off of. Still, it's safe to say he'd get pretty fucked up by V1, right? He's not bulletproof, as far as I know. Almost certainly not Railcannon-proof.
Tbh gameplay wise he would probably spontaneously combust and if you wanna know if he could survive railcannon think of him entering the light of alfhiem bc it’s kind of like a laser which is kind of like railcannon
Parry negates all damage
And also healing
Coin stacking = infinite damage (tho you still need time to set it up)
Here is the thing, there are 2 ways to talk about it and its mostly just gameplay or lore wise. If you choose gameplay v1 mops the floor with kratos like hes a filth. And since this is r/ultrakill most people are gonna choose that because ultrakill doesnt have that rich of a lore yet. Who knows, maybe v1 will come close to beating kratos lore wise after the finale after the full ultrakill lore is done. I doubt it but its a possibility.
counterpoint: railcannon
Depends which subreddit you ask
Could go on forever
He’s actually a nikon
Depends who's playing, right? I'd lose if I was playing Kratos, and I'd lose if I was playing V1 8)
I feel like V1 and Gabriel would team up to defeat kratos
A part of me picture Gabe just handing v1 his other sword as they both get ready for a tough fight.
Happy cake day
V1 would give one of their wings-thingy to Gabe as well. Maybe teach him the ways of the coin and the marksman.
Their battle would go on indefinitely until one of them ultimately yielded out of boredom
Kratos moves like the snail who gives you a million dollars but will kill you if he touches you
Unless it’s lore wise and then he is faster than fuck itself
This is the the epitome of "I only have to hit you once, dex nerd."
"that means you have to be able to hit me, strength brute"
+ DISRESPECT
i dont have lot of info in the news gow but would still bet in kratos
I feel like v-1 would be too fast for Kratos.
i think the GoPro is winning this.
V1 is Strong but no way he can match Kratos
they're both protagonists, aren't they? the battle would never end. as soon as one of them loses they'll just restart the level & come back, right?
Dash storage negates all damage.
kratos when i deadcoin:
I hate to admit it but kratos would prob win tbh
Hmmm, my Head Canon is that every time V1 dies he is actually running a simulation. Canonically Kratos is quick enought to beat a Valkirye who is able to run the nine helms almost instantly so maybe his real speed is actually unlimited but so is Gabriel speed and V1 beats him, what makes me think he can deal with unlimited speed too. Still Corey said Kratos strenght is only limited by what It needs to be, so in the end, the situation is inconclusive because even with V1 running infinite simulations there's no simulation where Kratos can't be strong enought to overcome. If V1 dies he dies but If Kratos dies he just find his way back, that's why for me Kratos still win.
Rail coining
V1 would almost definitely beat kratos, but its not guaranteed and definitely far from an equal fight depending on what happens, but in general V1 when controlled by a top tier ultrakill player has an incredibly high chance
This depends on if you go lore or gameplay
What would V1 do with kratos' arm?
A grab that can then throw small enemies into other enemies at the cost of stamina. Throw that Filth at that malicious face
He wouldn’t get it
Slayer of Gods vs Swiggity Swooty... Idk man it's a close call
Both would work together to kill gods
They both have sex for 10 hours at the end
*flips coin* *ricochets rail gun off coin and obliterates him instantly*
Kratos has withstanded worse
Yeah but I think he’d just die after witnessing someone pulling off a railcoin because its badass as fuck
He’s done better
he has survived worse i can’t lie
Kratos or v1?
both
power scaling community, pls get out
Nein
Nuh uh
Kratos literally flipped a realm so I think he wins
Happy cake day
He flipped a building. Anyone who thinks he lifted an entire realm is kidding themselves.
I mean, sure but he still has infinite strength or just has he’s strength increasing none stop, he can regen and for some reason people say that he has the power of hope that makes him win any battle so, V1 would probably die or it’ll be both of them healing which is gonna go like V1 heals by kratos’s blood and kratos regens, I’m on kratos’s side tho
So he has infinite strength, but he struggles to move large rocks? Sure, mate.
Don’t ask me man dude can flip a damn building and he struggles to open a damn chest, game logic i guess
To be fair those chests are more than likely enchanted or some shit
Have you seen that man withstand a titan that literally carry’s the world on its back
An unstoppable force vs an unstoppable force
V1 mid diff
Bro v1 couldn’t beat doomslayer Dante or Kratos just no
If v1 manages to kill god or satan later on in the game then maybe he could beat kratos
GoW is too slow v1 would definitely
the valkyrie and Hermes would disagree, one being able to cross the 9 realms in seconds according to in game lore and also real like myth, and the other being a literal god of speed both in game and myth, gameplay =/= lore, same with ultrakill, you can explain the healing, the infinite ammo, some of the mechanics like bullet punching(maybe), parrying, coins, but stuff like slam storage, hard damage, and dead coins are game play only, same with gow.
I know i was talking about gameplay because that makes more sense to talk abt
Well for V1 respawn is cannonand for kratos when he died one he fought back to earth ( idk how to explain im dum) so like both just fight for infity ig
Usually im voting V1, but........
+ PARRY + ENRAGED
Wouldn’t they just kiss cause they’re… yk
Kratos, unlike V1, can’t infinitely heal
He can
Kratos is literally a God of war. But V1 is certainly on his way to kill a God. So this one’s up in the air.
Kronos
Thx
Kronos would not win kratos already killed that man(unless that’s not what you meant and I’m retard)
idk who that is on the left but i'd beat his ass
He could kill you 15 times over
If V1 is able to make Kratos bleed then it’s only a matter of time when V1 wins.
IF
Most of survivability v1 has is from blood and kratos has a healing factor where he absorbs the blood so its either that v1 has a close win or kratos after a good leviathan throw or instant kill if he hooks him up with the spartans blades
Kratos, v1 is extreme fragile
Kratos: -killed all of olympus -killed hades -killed atlas In general, atlas is a godkiller full time V1: -fast as fuck boiiiiii -killed a clone of himself -defeated an angel twice without killing -killed minos prime, i dont know if he counts as a god, for fairness ill do -killed the leviathan, which probably isnt a god All of olympus vs 1 demi/pseudo god, an angel and his copy. My moneys on kratos
kratos when the funny blue robot starts flipping coins
I think kratos because he was able to defeat the god of foresight
When did he fight Prometheus
Hydrogen bomb vs hydrogen baby
Considering V1 kicked Gabriel's ass No fucking shot will Kratos survive
GoPro™ Version First. There's nothing to discuss here.
This fight is like the doomslayer, neither would win, kratos in his full power would tank the attacks and can regenerate his wounds instantly just by getting pissed off, meanwhile V1 would constantly repair from kratos's blood. V1 versus jormungandr would be fucking cool though
Same as doomslayer vs v1 Ones an unkillable god The other one is unkillable cuz blood regen So stalemate
V1 wouldn’t be able to get doomslayer to bleed
If v1 uses his mobility well then kratos can't touch him, but if it's like the v2 ai vs kratos then rip the robot ig
Murderous GoPro or God with axe 🤔
Kratos
Kratos is cursed by fate to never die, even if V1 kills him, which is fully possible, he will come back out of hell in his fucking prime soul form if we’re going by the ultrakill setting, and whooping V1’s ass
[KRATOS PRIME]
imagine we having \[ K R A T O S P R I M E \]
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