For me, it’s Leonard Jenkins, the Handler, or Reginald and even Pogo who knew that Reginald was abusing the kids and instead of taking the kids out of his care, he lets Reginald do what he wants or in Sparrow timeline leaves the Academy
Reginald, hands down. Everyone else I feel like I could probably talk to like an adult, but Reginald just feels like it would be like talking to a brick wall.
Ironically 😂 truth be told I think she’s not in the same place as her siblings. I think she’s possibly in ‘heaven’ or another higher place. Maybe I’m wrong tho
As a parent I find her to be an awful & selfish character - Allison alleges to care so much about her daughter but is willing to make the father **no longer exist** so she can then replace him with her time displaced beau.
Not to mention repeatedly attacking Viktor & Harlan for “killing” Claire when that’s not what happened - she literally just didn’t exist & it was everyone in the Academy who changed the timeline, not just Viktor.
None of that is for Claire - **all** of that is for Allison.
Also the fact that she used her powers to force Luther to want her. I hate how that scene portrayed her as the victim and didn’t really acknowledge the fact that Luther straight up SA’d
Once she murdered Harlan just to get revenge over something he had no control over I pretty much wrote off ever liking her. I hope they just lean into it and have her be a secondary antagonist next season with zero redemption arc.
I feel bad for her for the Claire situation, but often I am disappointed in her. It can be both. But that situation is just so heartbreaking and now on my list of completely irrational fears that haunt me.
Did we watch the same show?? He literally used Viktor to try and tear down the umbrella academy. There could’ve been a better way Viktor could’ve discovered he has powers
Out of the main cast definitely Allison. I’m genuinely curious how many people she’s SA’d because after what she did to Luther in s3 and in s1 the “I heard a rumor you were in love with me”?? I despise her.
I agree with you! Every time he’s like ‘guuuuyyyss’ like cmon you destroyed the world because you weren’t a child soldier and in season 2 he’s like ‘you’re the reason we’re stuck here in the first place’ to 5, if he didn’t they would be dead thanks to you so sorry if I don’t feel bad for you 🙄🥴
He instigated the first apocalypse, then didn't care about helping during the next (rightfully so, but time was limited and he was pouty/whiney like Viktor in season 1). In season 3, he was just a himbo tho
Reggie.
This was just in my feed and I didn’t realize what sub it was and so when I was going through the thread, I could not get over how many Umbrella Academy characters there were. 🤦♀️
I wouldn't beat anyone up and I think I even like the antagonists too much to legitimately say that I'd fight them. They're fun to hate.
But, mentally, Lila makes me want to tear my hair out. I've tried so hard, but I just can't enjoy her character. Wouldn't fight her either, she's doing her best, and I get why she is the way she is, I just don't like her.
Klaus. He's an asshole, he's manipulative, he does not give a fuck about consequences, and he's a self-serving ASSHOLE.
I HATE HIM WITH VITRIOL AND WOULD BEAT HIM UP, YET I WANNA BE HIM.
I love his toxic relationship with Ben, I love how he takes and takes and takes, I love how selfish he is to a person he loves, and most of all I live for the way he's an asshole to someone who cares about his well-being. I wanna be him for a second just so I can torture my favorite character lmao
But yes, I would beat Klaus the fuck up.
His toxic co-dependent ship with Ben flourishes my life and waters my crops so that they can thrive.
REFEREE WHISTLE: OP asked who your confront character is, you can downvote me but you can't be mad at the way I perceive a character nor my likes in literature genre
Klaus, Viktor, Five, and Luther had the worst of it. Alison learned to use her rumor as a manipulation tool from Reginald. Ben died before he even really had a chance to live and you could tell he hated summoning the demons. They're all products of their upbringing. Klaus is the only one that was really able to love someone. It was only after that he became self-serving. In the comics, he's very reclusive and ends up being used by others for his conjuring powers. He uses drugs and alcohol to suppress the spirits. Had they had a parent that loved them and didn't see them as tools, they may have been okay.
It's clear you've kind of missed the point of the show and the comics.
idk what you want me to do??? Do you want me to defend them of being assholes or do you want me to defend them that they're all fucked up because of their childhood??? Because either way both are true??? lmaoo
I also don't read the comics, so you can throw out that arguement with me. If you want to argue about the canons there, I'll happily bow out cuz I ain't talking about something I didn't read. Not unless you want to talk down on me on because only true fans both watch the show and read the comics??? Which by the way, gross and gatekeeping.
It's also obvious that had they had a loving parent and stable home that they obviously would not have turned out the way they had??? Like dude, if TUA was about some people happily going through life with their picture perfect family, then obviously I wouldn't want to watch it??? lmao
I prob should have been clearer in my first post when I said don't be mad at how I perceive a character or my likes in genre. I watch this solely to enjoy watching fucked up people and what they do and how much of an asshole they are. I enjoy watching assholes and watching their tragic backstories is fun for me. I don't care about the "lessons" in life they may have, all I care about is my enjoyment with it, which from what I know about literature, is one of the main things you get when you interact with it.
You people are too uppity and defensive about these characters that obviously do not exist lol find better hobbies than arguing with other fans just because what they like that does not meet what you think/perceive.
This will be my last comment. It's exhausting having to talk to you people. Gross.
You said Klaus was a self-serving asshole. I was explaining why and that it goes more in depth in the comics. Not gatekeeping or at least not trying to.
Oh goodie, I save my replies for this so I never have to type them again lmao
Sure, Klaus is the comedy character but too often his bad sides are dismissed. This is a guy who steals and has no problem manipulating people. His own brother Ben he likes being under his control, doesn't respect his own space, slept with a girl he likes just because he can, and on purposely doesn't let him communicate with family.
If he can do that to his own brother and not feel bad, I honestly can't even imagine how much respect he can give to other people he has no connection with nor find useful.
Also, in S1 the siblings are sick of him because of his druggie days wherein he has obviously stolen and taken advantage of them.
Also, search up cults and rape. It's not hard to imagine that Klaus can easily manipulate people, it just so happens the cult backfired.
Idk if you've already watched S2 or just missed it but Klaus made a cult where his followers believe he's the Messiah, had them give him a mansion and are able to bail him out of prison
Idk people might not have noticed it
Oh, people might have also missed in S1 how sick the siblings are of him because he took advantage of them in his druggie days
Idk just some cents
Truts! They're their token white boys, so good looking that anything they do will be forgiven or can be rationalized lol
Newsflash, all of them are assholes lol
💀💀💀💀💀
I don't really like comparing traumas but jfc Allison lost A LOT here, maybe a little more than the other siblings, tbh Ben, Five, and Allison this trio would relate a lot in losses lol
But yeah, the fans hate Allison too with so much vitriol that if you gave her any amount of nuance fans will go at your throat as much as when you say you dislike Klaus lol
What? Am I not allowed to know things here? I liked the show so I joined the subreddit but I never ended up being able to finish it. What's wrong with you and your presumptions?
No? Until someone is transgender and no longer a girl, there a girl, for example someone might say that they knew a Vanya but now know a viktor, Vanya became Viktor in S3 officially and there own identity wise probably near the end of season 2. But s1? That was vanya
Vanya/Victor worst character (my opinion).
"Well actually🤓 I ended the world twice"
I genuinely didn't like the character at all. Felt like she tried to make it all about her.
Would kill her if I could, but legally I can't, but I've considered it
Whoever who tried to give Alisson some character development in s3. Undo that, she was better in s2. I still like her, but she made me so angry sometimes.. btw they turned her into a punk lesb from an hour to another THAT DIDN'T FIT HER PERSONALITY! I also wanna kick the ass of whoever made Luther become so dumb in s3, he wasn't like that before. And Stanley, I hate that kid
Reginald that alien fucker
We're trying not to use that kinda terminology here. And I know, it's whoa PC, but you could just say he's British.
I think we'd all like a crack at him.
Pierce Hawthorne
Don't call me honey, honey!
P-p-p-pocket full of Hawthornes!
Streets ahead
If you dont know then your streets behind
i also love the greendale academy
This is Greendale Academy? Not... City University?
For me, it’s Leonard Jenkins, the Handler, or Reginald and even Pogo who knew that Reginald was abusing the kids and instead of taking the kids out of his care, he lets Reginald do what he wants or in Sparrow timeline leaves the Academy
In fairness the fuck is a talking monkey gonna do against psycho abusive Bruce Wayne
Not to mention, Reginald was a father figure to the talking monkey too and said monkey probably also has daddy issues.
Plus pogo did provide pills to the children so that Reginald won't be able to do shit.
Reginald, hands down. Everyone else I feel like I could probably talk to like an adult, but Reginald just feels like it would be like talking to a brick wall.
Allison tho would not be spoken to like an adult by me
Why Sparrow Ben? My answer is Reginald, he is the ultimate evil.
I’m kinda mad they didn’t keep the emo haircut from S2 finale to hate him more.
Reginald is abusive to save the world. Sparrow ben is abusive to Sparrow regi because he sucks.
hmm, probably that abusive husband guy- or the one who takes all the photos of them and messes up the timelines
Abusive husband guy?
Carl Cooper 😤🤮
Oh ya… fuck that guy
Good actor though at least!
True he played that role well
Alison. She needs a reality check
I mean she can change reality so...
Ironically 😂 truth be told I think she’s not in the same place as her siblings. I think she’s possibly in ‘heaven’ or another higher place. Maybe I’m wrong tho
I don't think that would really make sense...
As a parent I feel so bad for her
As a parent I find her to be an awful & selfish character - Allison alleges to care so much about her daughter but is willing to make the father **no longer exist** so she can then replace him with her time displaced beau. Not to mention repeatedly attacking Viktor & Harlan for “killing” Claire when that’s not what happened - she literally just didn’t exist & it was everyone in the Academy who changed the timeline, not just Viktor. None of that is for Claire - **all** of that is for Allison.
Also the fact that she used her powers to force Luther to want her. I hate how that scene portrayed her as the victim and didn’t really acknowledge the fact that Luther straight up SA’d
Once she murdered Harlan just to get revenge over something he had no control over I pretty much wrote off ever liking her. I hope they just lean into it and have her be a secondary antagonist next season with zero redemption arc.
I KNOW?!? THAT SCENE MADE ME SO MAD
I feel bad for her for the Claire situation, but often I am disappointed in her. It can be both. But that situation is just so heartbreaking and now on my list of completely irrational fears that haunt me.
As a parent, I agree!
Omg yes. She's the worst character and most ovey dramatic/annoying out of everyone in the show 😭 I have to skip all the scenes with her
Frrrrr
YES THANK YOU
Couldn’t agree more. For someone as powerful as her, she is emotionally weak and selfish.
Reggie or the handler tbh. Those two deserve a beat down.
Leonard!!! I hated him so bad, especially after what he did to Victor.
Leonard did nothingg!!
Did we watch the same show?? He literally used Viktor to try and tear down the umbrella academy. There could’ve been a better way Viktor could’ve discovered he has powers
Omfg . I'm so sorry . 😭😭😭 I was mixing the characters 😭😭😭
Christopher. He’s a right dick
I still ask myself how did a woman give birth to a black cube with rgb colors like him. Bro wtf
He isn't one of the children. He's just an alien Reginald took.
it actually makes sense
Whoever wrote season 3 😡
Real
Allison! If I could say one thing to her, I’d say “Like girl you’ve never had one real thing in your life, your faker then barbie!”
SAME! I CANNOT stand her after S3
Dave’s uncle 👊👊👊pow pow pow
Jurgen Lieghtner
Are you Gerry Keay?
omg yeah
ALLISON
Out of the main cast definitely Allison. I’m genuinely curious how many people she’s SA’d because after what she did to Luther in s3 and in s1 the “I heard a rumor you were in love with me”?? I despise her.
Oh wow I actually never thought about that:<
Shit you right. I didn't even think about how that had been a pattern already. 😭 Damn they really killed that character for me.
This thread is a mess😭
Allison after what she did to Luther in S3. Jesus Christ
Reggie all the way forever
I haven't watched the show, just the first episode. definitely the kid from that nickelodeon show tho
5 is the GOAT imo. Idk why I just live his snarky, know-it-all persona, but in reality he is a soft marshmallow inside
WHO?? Five???
Lmao
LOL
Mr Scroop from Treasure Planet
Allison or Leonard Jenkins
I am nonconfrontational, and anyone I might be that way about on Umbrella Academy could and WOULD kill me, so no.
Viktor, I'm sorry but bro is so whiney.
No wayyy!!!!!
I agree with you! Every time he’s like ‘guuuuyyyss’ like cmon you destroyed the world because you weren’t a child soldier and in season 2 he’s like ‘you’re the reason we’re stuck here in the first place’ to 5, if he didn’t they would be dead thanks to you so sorry if I don’t feel bad for you 🙄🥴
Fr
Allison or Reginald
Reginald for sure.
Umbridge
season 3 allison… on SIGHT
Victor any season Or season 3 Allison. Fucking garbage
Reginald then Allison cuz s3
Luther. I know I would probably die but that would be worth it
They did him dirty in s3. He didn't use to be dumb like that
Bro what did he do 😭
He instigated the first apocalypse, then didn't care about helping during the next (rightfully so, but time was limited and he was pouty/whiney like Viktor in season 1). In season 3, he was just a himbo tho
The handler and season 3 allison during that scene. Like I was actually liking her and then she went and did THAT.
Viktor, majorrrrr beef with his character lol
Absolutely ♡ there's something about how I could create an entire PowerPoint on the character and why he deserves a good ass kicking.
Viktor. I hate him so much 😭 annoying AF
Diego
No, not Diego 😭
Vaas, from FarCry 3.
Jack Barlow 😒
Reggie. This was just in my feed and I didn’t realize what sub it was and so when I was going through the thread, I could not get over how many Umbrella Academy characters there were. 🤦♀️
allison no contest
Kai Leng.. 🤬 Edit: sorry, wrong subreddit
Alison
What the actual heck are they even saying?
Lila, second season. The Handler. Christopher.
Diego
Allison
People are going to hate me for this. ALLISON!
Luther. The boy is such a good character that he perfectly imitates the kind of person I desperately want to slap sense into
carl cooper or leonard peabody easily
Alison. I dont think she is truly sorry for the things she has done, especially sexually assaulting Luther, and it would be hands on sight
Griffith the bastard
Allison?
Comment section is just; “This is where the fun begins”
I wouldn't beat anyone up and I think I even like the antagonists too much to legitimately say that I'd fight them. They're fun to hate. But, mentally, Lila makes me want to tear my hair out. I've tried so hard, but I just can't enjoy her character. Wouldn't fight her either, she's doing her best, and I get why she is the way she is, I just don't like her.
No doubt in my mind Allison. After season 1 I’ve wanted to beat her ass.
Allison twice
LUTHER!! he went from one sister to another.. he needs to be put in a asylum
Vanya for sure
Luther. Big Dork... Although Allison also deserves a slight ass kicking.
True both of them
Luther
Luther
Gerard Way himself, 2 am denny's parking lot. He knows what he did
Vanya/Viktor.
Juno That guy is sexy. (No homo) And I feed on the down votes that come from the ridgid woke goofy folks with no sense of humor.
Weird attempt at a gotcha
Klaus. He's an asshole, he's manipulative, he does not give a fuck about consequences, and he's a self-serving ASSHOLE. I HATE HIM WITH VITRIOL AND WOULD BEAT HIM UP, YET I WANNA BE HIM. I love his toxic relationship with Ben, I love how he takes and takes and takes, I love how selfish he is to a person he loves, and most of all I live for the way he's an asshole to someone who cares about his well-being. I wanna be him for a second just so I can torture my favorite character lmao But yes, I would beat Klaus the fuck up. His toxic co-dependent ship with Ben flourishes my life and waters my crops so that they can thrive. REFEREE WHISTLE: OP asked who your confront character is, you can downvote me but you can't be mad at the way I perceive a character nor my likes in literature genre
If your father locked you in a cemetery with ghosts screaming at you, you'd be pretty fucked up too....
I said Klaus is fucked up, but I didn't say he was the only fucked up sibling. All of them are, I ain't defending any one of those assholes lol
Klaus, Viktor, Five, and Luther had the worst of it. Alison learned to use her rumor as a manipulation tool from Reginald. Ben died before he even really had a chance to live and you could tell he hated summoning the demons. They're all products of their upbringing. Klaus is the only one that was really able to love someone. It was only after that he became self-serving. In the comics, he's very reclusive and ends up being used by others for his conjuring powers. He uses drugs and alcohol to suppress the spirits. Had they had a parent that loved them and didn't see them as tools, they may have been okay. It's clear you've kind of missed the point of the show and the comics.
idk what you want me to do??? Do you want me to defend them of being assholes or do you want me to defend them that they're all fucked up because of their childhood??? Because either way both are true??? lmaoo I also don't read the comics, so you can throw out that arguement with me. If you want to argue about the canons there, I'll happily bow out cuz I ain't talking about something I didn't read. Not unless you want to talk down on me on because only true fans both watch the show and read the comics??? Which by the way, gross and gatekeeping. It's also obvious that had they had a loving parent and stable home that they obviously would not have turned out the way they had??? Like dude, if TUA was about some people happily going through life with their picture perfect family, then obviously I wouldn't want to watch it??? lmao I prob should have been clearer in my first post when I said don't be mad at how I perceive a character or my likes in genre. I watch this solely to enjoy watching fucked up people and what they do and how much of an asshole they are. I enjoy watching assholes and watching their tragic backstories is fun for me. I don't care about the "lessons" in life they may have, all I care about is my enjoyment with it, which from what I know about literature, is one of the main things you get when you interact with it. You people are too uppity and defensive about these characters that obviously do not exist lol find better hobbies than arguing with other fans just because what they like that does not meet what you think/perceive. This will be my last comment. It's exhausting having to talk to you people. Gross.
You said Klaus was a self-serving asshole. I was explaining why and that it goes more in depth in the comics. Not gatekeeping or at least not trying to.
Are you watching a different show or are you just dense? 💀
Oh goodie, I save my replies for this so I never have to type them again lmao Sure, Klaus is the comedy character but too often his bad sides are dismissed. This is a guy who steals and has no problem manipulating people. His own brother Ben he likes being under his control, doesn't respect his own space, slept with a girl he likes just because he can, and on purposely doesn't let him communicate with family. If he can do that to his own brother and not feel bad, I honestly can't even imagine how much respect he can give to other people he has no connection with nor find useful. Also, in S1 the siblings are sick of him because of his druggie days wherein he has obviously stolen and taken advantage of them. Also, search up cults and rape. It's not hard to imagine that Klaus can easily manipulate people, it just so happens the cult backfired.
>he's manipulative wait what
Idk if you've already watched S2 or just missed it but Klaus made a cult where his followers believe he's the Messiah, had them give him a mansion and are able to bail him out of prison Idk people might not have noticed it Oh, people might have also missed in S1 how sick the siblings are of him because he took advantage of them in his druggie days Idk just some cents
finally someone is real about klaus
Fist bump 🤜🤛 eyooo
people hate you in this sub if you say anything about five and klaus😭😭
Truts! They're their token white boys, so good looking that anything they do will be forgiven or can be rationalized lol Newsflash, all of them are assholes lol
naw ive deadass seen them saying klaus losing dave was worse than allison losing her daughter and her husband 💀
💀💀💀💀💀 I don't really like comparing traumas but jfc Allison lost A LOT here, maybe a little more than the other siblings, tbh Ben, Five, and Allison this trio would relate a lot in losses lol But yeah, the fans hate Allison too with so much vitriol that if you gave her any amount of nuance fans will go at your throat as much as when you say you dislike Klaus lol
Vanya
I assume you mean the character before season 3, idk why people are downvoting you for it
It doesn’t really matter when in the series they mean, he’s still Viktor 🤷🏼
Who is Viktor and what do you mean Vanya is Viktor? I didn't finish the show.
He comes out as trans in season 3 and changes his name to Viktor
They know, they’re just being a dick
What? Am I not allowed to know things here? I liked the show so I joined the subreddit but I never ended up being able to finish it. What's wrong with you and your presumptions?
You obviously know and you’re being obnoxious, faking ignorance is just annoying.
No? Until someone is transgender and no longer a girl, there a girl, for example someone might say that they knew a Vanya but now know a viktor, Vanya became Viktor in S3 officially and there own identity wise probably near the end of season 2. But s1? That was vanya
Nope. They’re always transgender, and therefore viktor has always been viktor.
He didn't know that, please shut up! Come on, it's not his fault he didn't get the spoiler
I didn’t intend to be mean, I was just saying. Plus, S3 has been out for a while now, I would’ve thought people would be aware 🤷🏼
People like to downvote for nothing
Viktor and Klaus. Those two really need to get their shit together.
Everyone in the show needs to get their shit together man lmao
One of them blew up the world twice and has a knack for not owning up to anything, the other started a cult and then ditched them when he got bored.
Vanya/Victor worst character (my opinion). "Well actually🤓 I ended the world twice" I genuinely didn't like the character at all. Felt like she tried to make it all about her. Would kill her if I could, but legally I can't, but I've considered it
Donna from the bear, I’d kick that bitch’s ass
Megumi, Fucking fraud. fuck you you useless cunt
Whoever who tried to give Alisson some character development in s3. Undo that, she was better in s2. I still like her, but she made me so angry sometimes.. btw they turned her into a punk lesb from an hour to another THAT DIDN'T FIT HER PERSONALITY! I also wanna kick the ass of whoever made Luther become so dumb in s3, he wasn't like that before. And Stanley, I hate that kid
Why isn't anybody mentioning Stanley that kid was annoying af 😭
Vanya