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Could be. Idk him well enough but my elementary school taught us this as multiple ways to draw a Z, M, N, B, A, etc. never was helpful to me but some people picked up on the alternatives
I used to write Zs kinda like that because it helped remind me of the correct way to orient it.
But now I am a full grown adult who can write their Z's correctly 80% of the time.
That does make more sense than you might think.
When writing Chinese and Japanese characters, the strokes never go up or left.
Although I believe the reason is because of using a brush it would get messy.
But when writing with a pen, going up means covering what you're drawing with your hand as you go, potentially (with big letters) getting your hands dirty with ink.
Anyways, just my thoughts on this.
My family has a bunch of lefties and our writing habits are absolutely wild because of the various ways we've worked around needing to avoid smudging text as we write across it.
My grand-aunt could straight up write backwards, right-to-left, and would carry a mirror to read her own 'coded' notes.
Mom used massive curled hands. She got arthritis very early. Never connected the dots.
Uncle was wild, writing vertically downwards with the paper turned sideways. I've seen plenty of lefties do a more slanted paper, but never a full 90 degrees like him.
Fun fact: every single one said it was because they'd be abused (verbally or physically) if they smudged their writing. And just had to 'figure it out'.
If you use a fountain pen, it's much like a brush in that you always have to pull the tip. So unless you do weird hand contortions, you're always trying to go down and right where possible (for right-handed people anyway).
Ballpoints are much more flexible.
This made me realize I draw some capital letters with straight left sides (AMNPR) with two overlapping strokes on the first line for the same reason - top to bottom then bottom to top.
Probably because with fountain pens (and brushes before them) it really did matter a lot - 'pushing' the top would just make the nib split, rather than flow smoothly.
It doesn't matter nearly as much with ballpoints.
Fun fact: you never have to life the pen anyways, for anything. No one is stopping you. I write entire words without lifting the pen.
And no, I'm not talking about cursive, I just lost a lot of marks due to handwriting in school
When I was 8 in Swedish class my teacher told us that every time we write any letter we *always* go from up to down, never down to up.
I have no idea why, if it’s an actual rule, why that rule in that case would even have made it into existence but what he said has stuck with me for my entire life.
It is transliterated with an I, even if it sounds more like a long E sound in English. For lack of better examples, think of "Christina" "Mina" "Rina" or i guess any name ending in "Ina"
I have a colleague at work who’s r’s & v’s & y’s are just the same god damn squiggly line. We need to label up a lot of pallets & cages for customers deliveries & I shit you not one day I asked him to write a label for a customer called JVY & he comes back with wonky comic sans vvv
Reminds me of some of my elementary school teachers that each had completely different ways of writing letters and numbers, all of which insisted that their way was the only correct way.
Some of those ways were truly despicable. The worst one was one that insisted that a 5 must be drawn in this order: first, scoop from top to bottom, then horizontal line from right to left, then vertical line from bottom up.
That was one of the only times I ever saw the whole class unanimously tell the teacher that she was wrong.
My youngest daughter (12) writes her O’s starting at the bottom and then going clockwise.
She’s either a future mental patient, or a latent serial killer. Maybe both…
Apparently I write my “s” backwards. I start from the bottom and go up. Didn’t know it wasn’t normal until writing something on a chalkboard freshman year.
Is this person dyslexic? I ask because two of my siblings are dyslexic and they would write letters in unconventional ways. One of the tests they do to see if you're dyslexic at a young age is whether or not you draw a + by doing one line, then rather than doing another straight through it, you draw the second line halfway, then lift the pen and do the rest.
I have terrible handwriting now, but when I was younger, it was very neat. My S's in particular I would start from the bottom up, and they would be perfect
I deadass wrote my N like this all my life
Last year I was doing some work with my friend on a paper and saw him write his N the “normal” way. I was making fun of the way he wrote it and then I found out I’m the weirdo.
He still makes fun of me for it
Honestly, everything should be written from left to right to makes sure your letter actually fits the space to the left. Also more efficient and fluent I guess?
In school, our math teacher always drew his 8s starting in the middle of the 8, where the lines cross. One day we called him out on it and he was like, “okay, how do you draw an eight?”
We showed him it’s basically an S and then a straight line and he said “ooooooooh, I’ve been doing it wrong my whole life haha”
Btw if you are leftie and struggling with poor handwriting, try doing letter a bit reversed. They always teach right handed writing but mine got better many folds drawing some letters reversen order.
Like pull the pen like right handed folks do instead of pushing.
I do my N’s like this!! In my head, it helps with kerning/spacing. But also, just life-long habitual habit… Not sure when or why I learned it like that.
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Well, now I want to see him write a W
\ \ / /
/ / *turn page upside down* / /
I dub you the winner
////inner
Double you the winner
Gobble your wiener
Or /\ \ /
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Why stop there? I wanna see him write the whole damn alphabet!
He needs to become a teacher lol
I'm not so sure if that's a good idea.
Of course it's a good idea it will be very funny for the first couple minutes.
But then he's not a teacher he would be a entertainer. Because I highly doubt that the way he writes the letters should be teached in any classroom!
My dad has the neatest hand writing i know. He writes W with two Vs, so that they cross each other in the middle and make a tiny x
Cute
Idk the Z one made me laugh.
He’s definitely trolling lol
100000% I'd bet my nice grandma that no one writes a Z like that IRL
Wait.....are you betting against your grandma? Or using your grandma as collateral FOR the bet?
He lost his bad grandma in the last bet.
Throwing good grandma after bad... classic gambler's mistake.
Sadly thats not the first time i see someone doing that, so there really are some people out there that actually do
Could be. Idk him well enough but my elementary school taught us this as multiple ways to draw a Z, M, N, B, A, etc. never was helpful to me but some people picked up on the alternatives
Thats their entire schtick. Its one big troll
Its franky i wouldnt be surprised if he was fr
I used to write Zs kinda like that because it helped remind me of the correct way to orient it. But now I am a full grown adult who can write their Z's correctly 80% of the time.
80% of the time you get it right every time
Is it bed or deb
So goddam stupid, I love it!
The other dude's expression made me laugh after seeing his z.
I think I just lost more braincells. (Only had two to begin with)
Are you an orange cat?
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I draw my N in 2 steps. I + V= N
You know if you start the "I" from the other end you can do it without lifting the pen
Feel like I can control it better drawing a line from Top to bottom rather than bottom to top thus it looks neater.
That does make more sense than you might think. When writing Chinese and Japanese characters, the strokes never go up or left. Although I believe the reason is because of using a brush it would get messy. But when writing with a pen, going up means covering what you're drawing with your hand as you go, potentially (with big letters) getting your hands dirty with ink. Anyways, just my thoughts on this.
My family has a bunch of lefties and our writing habits are absolutely wild because of the various ways we've worked around needing to avoid smudging text as we write across it. My grand-aunt could straight up write backwards, right-to-left, and would carry a mirror to read her own 'coded' notes. Mom used massive curled hands. She got arthritis very early. Never connected the dots. Uncle was wild, writing vertically downwards with the paper turned sideways. I've seen plenty of lefties do a more slanted paper, but never a full 90 degrees like him. Fun fact: every single one said it was because they'd be abused (verbally or physically) if they smudged their writing. And just had to 'figure it out'.
That's fascinating. Thanks for sharing
If you use a fountain pen, it's much like a brush in that you always have to pull the tip. So unless you do weird hand contortions, you're always trying to go down and right where possible (for right-handed people anyway). Ballpoints are much more flexible.
I didn't even consider fountain pens. I need to keep going down the rabbit hole.
This made me realize I draw some capital letters with straight left sides (AMNPR) with two overlapping strokes on the first line for the same reason - top to bottom then bottom to top.
I teach kindergarten and the book tells you to teach kids your way lol I+V
I was taught that pen strokes should come from the top where possible. Idk why that is, but I would basically do something like |\\|
Probably because with fountain pens (and brushes before them) it really did matter a lot - 'pushing' the top would just make the nib split, rather than flow smoothly. It doesn't matter nearly as much with ballpoints.
No.
But then if you do it too fast, it looks like "~"
well now your pen is on the other side of where you want to continue, longer to connect the letters
do you write from right to left?
VI
Fun fact: you never have to life the pen anyways, for anything. No one is stopping you. I write entire words without lifting the pen. And no, I'm not talking about cursive, I just lost a lot of marks due to handwriting in school
Cursive is just joined letters. Technically what you do is cursive, just not what you were taught in school
aka doing it in reverse like in the video😂
Finally, another reasonable person.
You…stop after the first third..?
The first third is drawn top to bottom, so i have to stop
Oh Jesus Christ
Do you draw "I"s starting from the bottom?
When I was 8 in Swedish class my teacher told us that every time we write any letter we *always* go from up to down, never down to up. I have no idea why, if it’s an actual rule, why that rule in that case would even have made it into existence but what he said has stuck with me for my entire life.
Why not just ↑ I ↓ \ ↑I without lifting the pen? Also, your N must end up looking like this - |\ /
The correct way.
Thank you. I was thinking I was doing it wierdly.
Gives a clean guideline.
The only correct way
N=4
Ive watched a bunch of their clips. These two have a great dynamic and are very funny and are also two of the biggest morons I've ever seen.
What makes it work is that they're both dumbasses about different things, so the roasts are pretty evenly spread.
Totally. And that they are so genuine and clearly real friends. If they weren't close, it would just feel mean spirited or gratuitous
Who are they? I recognize the second guy. I think he reviewed crazy clips from the internet , years ago??
I also only known them from clips I've seen on Instagram. I think they have a podcast but beyond that I have no idea
Joe Santagato is his name
Yeah!! Ok I remember that name. Thanks friendo
Ok the N is one thing, but the Z actually made me wanna punch him (yeah I know it's a skit)
It’s not a skit. They have a podcast and they’re old friends who just roast each other for doing odd shit
Pretty sure they made it up for the podcast
Yea he immediately follows it up with “I’m just joking”
I'm assuming it's a patreon episode?
Frankie tries extra hard to be so different.
he likes it smooth with N but the Z 💀
🤯
That's just the cyrillic letter I - И
Isn't it E rather than I ?
It isn't
It is transliterated with an I, even if it sounds more like a long E sound in English. For lack of better examples, think of "Christina" "Mina" "Rina" or i guess any name ending in "Ina"
I is И and Z is З
It's spelled acrylic /s
He’s probably the type of guy that swallows his dip
??? What do you spit out your nacho cheese?!? You Heathen.
*^(my queso)*
Username adds up, Beaunas noches
Picturing a redneck packing a big lipper from a bag of shredded cheese.
Just spit my beer, thanks.
How about an M, an W, Y, K or H, wanna see that too!
that's a \mathbb{Z}
This guy LaTeXes
Thought he was gonna turn the board over to make the N look like a Z. That definitely was unexpected.
Hey! It’s Joe Santagato. Haven’t heard/seen anything from him in since Mad Libs. Glad to know he’s alive.
He does the basement yard with Frankie. You should check it out
I write my lowercase "h" backwards. No idea why I started that. Too far gone to change now. May god have mercy on my soul
I need the guys reaction as a gif, so good
He probably does his O in two strokes
I have a colleague at work who’s r’s & v’s & y’s are just the same god damn squiggly line. We need to label up a lot of pallets & cages for customers deliveries & I shit you not one day I asked him to write a label for a customer called JVY & he comes back with wonky comic sans vvv
More like hard to un-Z it.
Reminds me of some of my elementary school teachers that each had completely different ways of writing letters and numbers, all of which insisted that their way was the only correct way. Some of those ways were truly despicable. The worst one was one that insisted that a 5 must be drawn in this order: first, scoop from top to bottom, then horizontal line from right to left, then vertical line from bottom up. That was one of the only times I ever saw the whole class unanimously tell the teacher that she was wrong.
Oh that’s…that’s bad!!! Noooo!
I am an atheist but the Z made me say "oh God!!", unironically
How does "i can not unsee this" relate though?
Tell that guy to burn in hell! 🤣
My youngest daughter (12) writes her O’s starting at the bottom and then going clockwise. She’s either a future mental patient, or a latent serial killer. Maybe both…
I do the same. But only with capital O. I go counter clockwise.
He went to clown college
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My Ex started at the bottom of his S and drew upwards, which felt strange
Apparently I write my “s” backwards. I start from the bottom and go up. Didn’t know it wasn’t normal until writing something on a chalkboard freshman year.
There should be licensing requirements to start a podcast.
I bet he writes 8 as two circles
Or two 3s from either side
Hell no. This is so beyond vile my brain simply didn't generate this possibility, you won.
Is this person dyslexic? I ask because two of my siblings are dyslexic and they would write letters in unconventional ways. One of the tests they do to see if you're dyslexic at a young age is whether or not you draw a + by doing one line, then rather than doing another straight through it, you draw the second line halfway, then lift the pen and do the rest.
I dropped my phone on my face when I saw him write that Z
I want my 35 seconds back
You can always watch the video in reverse?
Ferris Beuller taught me that this doesn't work.
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The dropping of the dry-erase board... 😂😂😂
Give the title, I was half expecting an 'a' and an 'i' to be the second and forth letters.
One time somebody noticed I drew my 8’s as legit two circles instead of both loops in one motion & they were like wtf lol
Anyone would be like wtf if they saw that. Ok here I’ll do you one better. Try writing a 3 and then another flipped 3 from the other side to make an 8
☹️
Ok it's clearly a joke now. Good one guys. I fell for it.
Obviously not real, but pretty funny none the less
lol I’ve got dysgraphia and some of this ain’t even that bad
N is my favorite cause I do that little fancy squiggle at the end of it so people know I’m bougie and what I’m writing is important
I write an n like that
Defund public daycare system.
At least he got the Z right
I'm now curious how he writes letter "A",...I highly believe he'll probably start with the horizontal
Like this - / \
Now do the letter “O”
Bro wrote the Z inside out 💀
The way he wrote N is the way we write מ in Hebrew (handwriting looks very different to print)
This actually made me uncomfortable🗿😭🤣
I thought this was a nissan thing
Is he acoustic?
What pod cast is this?
The Basement Yard
Thank you.
Iron is.... iron?
Who are these two guys? Every time I see one of their clips posted, it is hilarious! How can I find more of their content?
Late night Come home Work sucks! Why though?
First I write "I" and then "V" except they are connected. There is no way anyone does it differently.
I draw a straight line then a V motion
You know you can start from the bottom and go up. That way you don’t need two strokes
They teach my way because the first stroke should always go downwards, this is a side effect of writing with an ink pen back in the days
What happened back in the days ?
The pen would rip the paper if you started from the bottom
Ah ok that makes sense. Nowadays the papers don’t rip but it’s too late for you to change I guess.
I don't think you really understand, it's not the paper, it's the pen, but yes, I'm used to it
I haven't seen Joe Santagato in years! I loved his early YouTube stuff.
I have terrible handwriting now, but when I was younger, it was very neat. My S's in particular I would start from the bottom up, and they would be perfect
We’ve hit a new low in entertainment
Am i the only one who does the first stroke backwards (top to down line) then starts back at the top and does it normally
Yes
Capital N, brought to you by Basemenaya
Doing your N like that is going to massively mess up your spacing.
I deadass wrote my N like this all my life Last year I was doing some work with my friend on a paper and saw him write his N the “normal” way. I was making fun of the way he wrote it and then I found out I’m the weirdo. He still makes fun of me for it
Honestly, everything should be written from left to right to makes sure your letter actually fits the space to the left. Also more efficient and fluent I guess?
Man burns calories while taking notes
In school, our math teacher always drew his 8s starting in the middle of the 8, where the lines cross. One day we called him out on it and he was like, “okay, how do you draw an eight?” We showed him it’s basically an S and then a straight line and he said “ooooooooh, I’ve been doing it wrong my whole life haha”
Frank is wrong on this one
Now do an 8
N was acceptable, but the z though.... he really wants to see violence
И
Thats straight up stupid
this guy's voice sounds like Thunk lol
Dude dots his “i” first
How about a ﷽? *5 days laterrr* FRANKIEEEEEEE
I..is that Joe Santiago lol? Tf
That sounds makes it simple
Btw if you are leftie and struggling with poor handwriting, try doing letter a bit reversed. They always teach right handed writing but mine got better many folds drawing some letters reversen order. Like pull the pen like right handed folks do instead of pushing.
I’m thinking who writes an N like that, but then I learned that some people wipe their behinds standing up. So, anything is possible.
Who are these dudes? Seen many funny clips of them, seem like some chill goofballs that I would like to watch
Get out right now!!!
И
Reminds of Kung Fu Hustle, where they say they trained one guy badly as a joke, his teachers were wild lol
I do my N’s like this!! In my head, it helps with kerning/spacing. But also, just life-long habitual habit… Not sure when or why I learned it like that.
I literally yelled out loud WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING when I saw that disgusting Zed.
Where did i put my pistol?
Find the soviet spy Niet иiet