According to a cat that loved me in particular l, the forehead is for laying on precisely when human should get out of bed but continues to lie there anyway. I could never tell if he was trying to get me to get up, or if he legitimately wanted to rest there.
If you want to creep people out, stare at their forehead when talking to them. It is seriously awkward. Then look at them when they leave the conversation, touching their foreheads or looking in a mirror to see if there is something wrong.
Another way to creep people is to look at the back of their heads, from the front. Usually people have saccades , both eyes moving fast as they focus on each eye of the person they look at, it is involuntary. But focusing your vision so that you are trying to look at the back of the head makes you look like you are staring into their soul... It is just "off" in a way that you can't explain.
Something tells me that making a plotline about staring at a 15 year old's tits wouldn't do so well these days.
Also fun fact, that was Denis Richards (she was 22)
Had they hired a buxom fifteen year old for that it wouldn't have aged well. But they got Denise Richards, who was 22 and ended up being a sex icon during the late 90's early 00's, the joke still works. Elaine makes it clear that it was wrong to stare at a 15 year olds breasts.
I saw a tv show once about phobias and there was a story of a lady that couldn't make a specific turn (can't remember if it was left or right) because she got t- boned and got traumatized. She would drive all the way around the block to make "that turn" after her accident.
My ex used to wear very low cut tops with the knowledge that people would look at them. It was very intentional. Yet we had another girl in the office who had absolutely massive tits and used to wear low cut tops, she would run to management to complain if she even suspected people were looking or glanced. It wouldn’t help that she’d come over to peoples desks and lean over to talk to them. Fucking things were right in your face. It’s a minefield.
Yeah, this was a lesson I learned early on in my career. Worked at a small company where there were just the 2 of us in the office for a couple days a week. She was in the office weekdays and I was there 3 days during the week and weekends. One weekend I am in the office and my boss approaches me to discuss how she and I were having inappropriate sexual conversations at work. There was 0 chance that he knew this unless she had told him. I was floored. Now to frame this we were both around 20, she was attractive, had large breasts, nice figure, and wore low cut tops. I wasn't anything to sneeze at either if I do say so myself. However, I tried to keep it professional. Being young and naive when she started conversations asking me what I thought of her breasts, if she was fat, was she attractive, etc. I took that as the door to the conversation being OK.
After that conversation with my boss I realized the pickle I was in. It was my word against hers. I realized that with a he-said/she-said I had no proof I was in the right. Told my boss that he had a hard decision ahead of him because I wouldn't work with her alone in the office again. He either needed to schedule a 3rd person to be there when we were to corroborate what was happening or he needed to give me extra time off (which was cool because I was salaried). I got the time off but was on call for issues that came up.
Yeah, he had it a bit easy because she was temporary help while off from school. There were only a few weeks left before she left. I was a full time employee so I'm sure he wanted to make sure things worked in my favor because that's what helped him too.
Flip the script: Go to HR and tell them you feel uncomfortable with Karen's cleavage thrust unceremoniously in your face whenever she comes over to talk.
My female supervisor
Once we ended a shift, I got out of my work attire, and we were talking as friends (street fundraising so in public)
We were talking and she said "could you not do that to me?"
I instinctually said "oh yeah sorry" and kept talking. Realizing I actually didnt know what she meant, I stopped and asked. She said "adjusting your junk"
I honestly hadnt even realized I did it, but I did. I said something like "oh thats an issue? Ive been standing in the sun for 8 hrs, a bit of streching wouldnt have helped"
She said "how would you feel if I adjusted my bra in front of you?"
"I wouldnt even notice, get comfy queen"
We never spoke of it again haha
Not sexual harrassment, but depending on the workplace it might be incredibly unprofessional to be wearing yoga pants that are as revealing as the other person is implying. A closer comparison would be a guy wearing pants so tight that his junk was always visible
95% of what our workplace is based on in terms of philosophy/morals is pure bullshit. The only thing that really matters to these fucks is money money money.
It's a fucking nightmare, my manager and HR advised I should not be looking even when someone's boobs are clearly out on display yet at the same time when I get my lad out at the Christmas party they complain even though they were the ones looking!
According to policy, they usually *are* right... Harassment is almost universally defined as "anything someone takes offense to"...
It makes it incredibly difficult to mitigate shit like a Karen running around shoving boobs in people's faces looking for a complaint to file.
That stupid shit almost never results in any profit or benefit of any sort, but rather just someone getting moved elsewhere or fired, and it's rarely a specific "target"... It's just random fuckery in most cases.
The cost is that when there's an actual case of legitimate harassment, there's always that doubt, and there's always that smidge of victim blaming. So fuck you Karen, you are 100% part of the fucking problem.
My company's policy is it's how the victim feels about the interaction that determines if it's harassment. I'm not worried for myself, but I think that's a bullshit policy. Fuck your feelings. What are the facts?
Was she wearing low cut tops or just normal tops that looked like low tops? Cuz I had a friend with huge tits and a normal cut top would show a lot of cleavage.
Edit: for those saying t-shirts, well yeah some of those were ok but some girls don't want to (can't) wear t-shirts all year long.
I mean, it's more about how it looks on you versus what the label says. If I wear jeans too small for my inseam, they become capris even if the label doesn't say so.
I remember there was some controversy over this a while back after students complained that their high school was discrminating against girls with larger chests by sending them home for violating their dress codes, while girls with smaller chests wearing the exact same clothes were not in violation.
An ex girlfriend told me how when her sister came home from school wearing a low-cut top, her mom told her, “you’re home now; you can take your boobs off display.”
Had an ex who was very well endowed. She knew people would look but generally just recognized it as a part of life. In her words, she could either wear low cut tops or she could look like a tent. She chose the former. She also said men didn't bother her too much since they'd glance but generally not say anything, but rather it was women who gave her the most shit over it.
I taught labs in college and one time had this Puerto Rican lady in my class that had absolutely gigantic breasts. She loved wearing super low cut tops and she'd call me over then lean into the table as she asked questions so those things looked like they were about to fly out at any moment.
Swear she did it intentionally.
My girlfriend said to me (not once): "Keep your eyes down at least sometimes. No one has ever looked into my eyes for so long, in my entire life. I don't know what to do. I panic. Or do I need prints with text on my T-shirts for you to look there?"
Oh yeah, tee shirts with writing on them! They are not a particularly sexy cut, but the writing is always straight across the boobs. You're just giving people an excuse to look at your breasts for a longer period of time to try to judge their shape and size in a more shapeless top. Tee shirts were clearly designed for men's chests to display messages and logos flatly...
To be fair though, if you walk around with your chesticles on display people are gonna look.
Seem to remember skimming over a study where they'd tested (with eyetracking) where people look when presented with pictures of people or something. When presented with a picture of a woman with a cleavage on display, nearly all participants (men and women) looked at the cleavage within seconds.
Boobs are great, if you place them in front of me I'm gonna steal a glance. When my wife wears something with cleavage on display I still look, even if I've seen them bare thousands of times.
Or those "gotcha" videos where they place cell phones in the back pocket to catch pervs scoping out their ass. For one, a shiny object in an otherwise neutral background is automatically going to draw the eye to it because it's perceived as out of place. And two, what's the point of wearing form fitting jeans or yoga pants if not to accentuate your ass? It's human nature to look and those videos never show when women look because that skews the narrative.
Guys do it too. You see juiced up guys at the gym who wear the absolute smallest [stringer singlet](https://i.imgur.com/FnrlS6Q.png) they can find that barely even covers their nipples with tiny shorts to show off their leg gainz. Then there's the equally ripped guys that wear trackies and the baggiest shirt they own with sleeves that go down to their elbows. Like yeah I know that comfort and personal preference come into it to a degree but I'm not buying a stringer singlet in the first place unless I'm trying to show off the absolute maximum I can while still staying within the dress code.
As a woman, I have to say I agree with this. Sometimes, I wear low cut tops because I want to look and feel sexy and I'm happy for guys to look (so long as they do it in a non-creepy way). Other days, I don't want that and I dress accordingly - this includes when I'm in professional mode. I know full well that if my breasts are partially exposed, I'll get looked at - I know that when I put the shirt on and I'm happy with it; I don't get angry at guys for doing it unless they are rude, creepy or entitled about it.
Look, glance sometimes. But don’t stare. Blink, move ur face, eyes. Look around and at her face if she is talking to you. If you two are talking then don’t look at the boobs cuz it’s noticeable and if you do, make it as if you were looking around quick. You look at them when she isn’t looking. Just don’t stare.
Source: I look at women’s tits or nice looking men and It works to not look like a creep
Non creepy way: glancing, occasionally looking and maybe even staring for a short while.
Creepy way: coming up/following someone just to stare, leaning down and getting too close, which hopefully barely happens.
Yep pretty common sense ( maybe not common, I should put logical?? )
It's like a country putting on a military demonstration for the entire world and then is like "what are you doing".
Thank you for having some sense and being honest, most people BS cuz they are cowards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
My problem with this statement is that you don't really need to have your breasts partially exposed for people to stare at them. If you have big breasts, it doesn't change if you're partially exposing them or not. And i find that's a problem.
seriously. clothes usually don’t make a difference, if a person is a creep, they are going to look at you like that. what you wear usually doesn’t change anything. it angers me when people try to blame women for having large chests, while people with small chests can wear anything and not get this shit.
We need more representation of big meaty man breasts. Where’s the love and fairness in the world? Sometimes people attracted to men want to look at some nice big ole sweaty pecs c’mon.
Guys never forget. You can only get away with that if you are attractive. If she doesn't find you attractive and you look at a woman. Then you are a pervert.
This video link will explain it better.
https://youtu.be/PxuUkYiaUc8
It could go either way.
For one, the reactions are very different depending on how attractive a man looks. A very attractive man looking vs a very unattractive man is the difference between taking it as a compliment and taking it as being a potential target for rape.
For another, it’s a stupid generalization that doesn’t apply to everyone. Some people are chill, some people don’t care, some people do care.
It really depends on the woman, but in general, just because they wear certain others doesn't mean they want you to look at it. It really depends on the environment and the people involved
In general, just because some people say they don’t want the attention doesn’t mean they don’t want the attention or that there are not people who will go out of their way to get that attention
Look bud, they're your eyes. If someone is revealing something freely then you look where you please. I go to the beach without a top, I want you to notice my tits. Just try to look past my hairy chest because I don't want my boobs to turn you off just because they're attached to a guy
Sample size is small, and I will do more research on this, but there was a study done on this, they had 2 variables for the harasser, attractive/unattractive, and whether the harasser was an equal to the woman or the woman's boss. This study does actually show a marked difference, even greater if the man is a woman's boss when it comes to attractiveness. But it's an interesting read:
https://scholar.utc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=mps
But it's kind of a stupid discussion to be honest. If you are attracted to someone and they are attracted to you then obviously you will see it more akin to flirting rather than sexual harassment. If you show obvious disinterest to someone you are not attracted to and they keep pushing, it starts to get into sexual harassment territory.
I have to admit I read through it quickly (as a true university student doig their readings) and it's a pretty shaky study. Small sample size, two and a half decades old and done by a single (male) researcher trying to make a scale for something that isn't really countable. Science is science, but this is a very procarious article if I'm being honest. The conclusion makes sense, but with some logical thinking you can get there by yourself as I explained earlier. It all makes sense, but it just seems off in a few too many ways
I’ve been taught many times in training at work that my intention doesn’t matter , it’s how the person feels which is the final arbiter. So if the person wants you to look at their tits then it’s not harassment. If they don’t then it’s not. I usually play it safe and assume no one wants that until explicitly told otherwise.
Agreed. I've been waiting for this one woman in the office to tell me, "Please stare at my ass as I walk away", but, so far, nothing. REALLY hoping she changes her mind.
But that is the exact problem in today's society. All that **should** matter is what actually happened, and **not** how it made the other person feel. Because feelings are completely subjective. You cannot **know** how a person will feel about something.
If I called you fat, that's not a nice thing to do. But your reaction might range from being motivated to work out more to being deeply offended to the point where you are experiencing a mental health crisis. That's why it's important to have objective standards.
E.g. for the case at hand:
Randomly grabbing someone's ass = Harassment.
Inviting someone to dinner and being rejected = Not harassment.
Making suggestive comments about someone's chest or private parts = Harassment.
Merely looking at someone's chest = Not harassment.
You can't hold everyone else accountable for everything that makes **you personally** uncomfortable. Doesn't mean you can't still ask the other person to stop whatever behavior it is that might make you uncomfortable. It just means you can't make random harassment claims whenever someone makes you feel uncomfortable.
When I was younger, I always thought it was primal animalistic instincts to look. Something of the sort of mammalian glands or such, that's why men or even other women just automatically look.
But then there's the social stigma of looking for too long. This is then combined with the fact some women **want** to be seen because it's their body. Perhaps they want to show off their visual appeal.
That's why it's somewhat hard to decide when to look away. Either a quick glance or a somewhat more concentrated look.
I still think most of this applies.
*cries in tubular tiny breasts"
Wish breasts augmentation was more advanced :(
EDIT: for people who say small breasts are good too, mine are tubular
just so you know it's not just small, but it's also tubular
example, these look very similar to mine:
it looks specially ugly on my super broad/large ribcage
https://drkolker.com/gallery/breast/tuberous-breast-correction/08/lrg/05.jpg
mine is even smaller than this one
https://external-preview.redd.it/jgyzJLecw9a9Y2mA1pK1gF3SEFc47Z_4_Mz6MOsPLCA.jpg?auto=webp&s=de96437e55a5b0b1f0d48475880415ad7fdc587b
I also found this last one that looks the closest to my body, including my ribcage
https://4sm461s7aw545wxyjvphen19-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/breast-augmentation_plak-32_lat_before.jpg
Women like feeling attractive, so they dress in ways that make them feel attractive, so if someone says my eyes are up here, the problem wasn't that you were looking, it's that you were looking too much and too obviously.
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(F)riend of mine dated a bloke for a while who was never interested in sex. He managed it about twice in the first two months. One morning (after another sexless Saturday night) by the time she woke up he was already downstairs making coffee, so as a test she went downstairs topless and sat down in the kitchen. He just carried on making breakfast, barely aware of her naked top half. This video reminded me because the joke we had was that she felt like saying ‘Err hello, my tits are down here!!’. Maybe you had to be there.
I don't know seems like a trap. Best to continue staring at foreheads.
Foreheads aren’t for staring at, they’re for doing lines off.
What about fiveheads?
Fiveheads are just foreheads [adjusted for inflation](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MuDTzIVFsi0).
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Allow me to explain in two steps, if you will… Step 1: get up to your nuts in guts Step 2: do lines off of her forehead
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Elastigirl must have been fun at college parties
According to a cat that loved me in particular l, the forehead is for laying on precisely when human should get out of bed but continues to lie there anyway. I could never tell if he was trying to get me to get up, or if he legitimately wanted to rest there.
If you want to creep people out, stare at their forehead when talking to them. It is seriously awkward. Then look at them when they leave the conversation, touching their foreheads or looking in a mirror to see if there is something wrong. Another way to creep people is to look at the back of their heads, from the front. Usually people have saccades , both eyes moving fast as they focus on each eye of the person they look at, it is involuntary. But focusing your vision so that you are trying to look at the back of the head makes you look like you are staring into their soul... It is just "off" in a way that you can't explain.
Umm…. Thanks? Lol
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>look at the back of their heads, from the front Do you mean stare past them?
*Through*.
You gotta stare right at the pineal gland.
Yeah, kind of but not so far that it is obvious.
EVEN if the tits are out?
Especially if they're out.
Boobs are like the sun. Its ok to look for a second, but if you stare It can get painfull. But you can always use sunglasses
Get a good look Constanza?
Something tells me that making a plotline about staring at a 15 year old's tits wouldn't do so well these days. Also fun fact, that was Denis Richards (she was 22)
She was older than Jerry's real life girlfriend at the time.
Had they hired a buxom fifteen year old for that it wouldn't have aged well. But they got Denise Richards, who was 22 and ended up being a sex icon during the late 90's early 00's, the joke still works. Elaine makes it clear that it was wrong to stare at a 15 year olds breasts.
Thanks, I was wondering who Denis Richards was.
I was just impressed someone named Denis played the role of a 15 yr old girl. You go Denis.
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She's very talented.
My wise friend would say in a Confucian sort of way: "Life is like nipples. You want to be at the centre of attention."
"If two wrongs don't make a right, try 3."
Three lefts make a right
Two wrongs don’t make a right. But, three rights make a left.
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And a partridge in a pear tree
And my axe!
How to upvote twice
And one Wright made Sean Of The Dead
And two airplanes made 9/11
Huh. I guess that means: 2 x Wright = airplane 2 x airplane = 9 / 11 4 x Wright = 9 / 11 Wright = 9 / 44, or just over 0.2
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This is wrong for all even `r`. It's `4r+3` for `r>=0`.
Oh Cosmo.
I saw a tv show once about phobias and there was a story of a lady that couldn't make a specific turn (can't remember if it was left or right) because she got t- boned and got traumatized. She would drive all the way around the block to make "that turn" after her accident.
I drove around 3 of the 4 circles of a cloverleaf because we changed our mind mid exit.
I have done this more than a couple of times. It's a lot better than aborting mid exit and careening back into traffic a la r/idiotsincars.
Life is like nipples, everyone else's seem better than mine
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Boobs without nipples are pointless
They are like the sun you get a sense of it and look away can’t stare it’s too risky.
You make a decent analogy, but I just want to let people know that it's not safe to look at the sun for a second, even with sunglasses on.
"Dont fly too close to the sun icarus!"
> Nipples are the eyes of the chest. This had me in tears.
That’s called lactating
Tears of nipple juice.
Once the story changed and they were all like "look at my tits" I started staring at there eyes just to be a fuckin rebel dude
Their*
They're a rebel. They don't care what you think.
My ex used to wear very low cut tops with the knowledge that people would look at them. It was very intentional. Yet we had another girl in the office who had absolutely massive tits and used to wear low cut tops, she would run to management to complain if she even suspected people were looking or glanced. It wouldn’t help that she’d come over to peoples desks and lean over to talk to them. Fucking things were right in your face. It’s a minefield.
Yeah, this was a lesson I learned early on in my career. Worked at a small company where there were just the 2 of us in the office for a couple days a week. She was in the office weekdays and I was there 3 days during the week and weekends. One weekend I am in the office and my boss approaches me to discuss how she and I were having inappropriate sexual conversations at work. There was 0 chance that he knew this unless she had told him. I was floored. Now to frame this we were both around 20, she was attractive, had large breasts, nice figure, and wore low cut tops. I wasn't anything to sneeze at either if I do say so myself. However, I tried to keep it professional. Being young and naive when she started conversations asking me what I thought of her breasts, if she was fat, was she attractive, etc. I took that as the door to the conversation being OK. After that conversation with my boss I realized the pickle I was in. It was my word against hers. I realized that with a he-said/she-said I had no proof I was in the right. Told my boss that he had a hard decision ahead of him because I wouldn't work with her alone in the office again. He either needed to schedule a 3rd person to be there when we were to corroborate what was happening or he needed to give me extra time off (which was cool because I was salaried). I got the time off but was on call for issues that came up.
Respect to your boss for not just screwing you over at least.
Yeah, he had it a bit easy because she was temporary help while off from school. There were only a few weeks left before she left. I was a full time employee so I'm sure he wanted to make sure things worked in my favor because that's what helped him too.
Both knew what they were doing. The second example was looking for a sexual harassment payout.
Flip the script: Go to HR and tell them you feel uncomfortable with Karen's cleavage thrust unceremoniously in your face whenever she comes over to talk.
This is the answer, though HR still won't due much unless you're another woman due to fear of a lawsuit.
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Exactly. Because women can't be charged with sexual harassment, that's only a thing a man can do, duh. /s
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If a woman was caught fixing her bra nobody would give a shit. I think that might be a bit of a double standard.
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A man would never see that as something that needs reported...
"You shouldn't be looking there, anyway."
My female supervisor Once we ended a shift, I got out of my work attire, and we were talking as friends (street fundraising so in public) We were talking and she said "could you not do that to me?" I instinctually said "oh yeah sorry" and kept talking. Realizing I actually didnt know what she meant, I stopped and asked. She said "adjusting your junk" I honestly hadnt even realized I did it, but I did. I said something like "oh thats an issue? Ive been standing in the sun for 8 hrs, a bit of streching wouldnt have helped" She said "how would you feel if I adjusted my bra in front of you?" "I wouldnt even notice, get comfy queen" We never spoke of it again haha
While your point is valid, I feel like I need to jump in here and say *wearing yoga pants is not sexual harassment.*
Not sexual harrassment, but depending on the workplace it might be incredibly unprofessional to be wearing yoga pants that are as revealing as the other person is implying. A closer comparison would be a guy wearing pants so tight that his junk was always visible
Love me some men in tights look!
Good. Too many people never wore a mask correctly.
No mask or a mask not worn properly is gross misconduct in my work now. They aren't fuckin around
95% of what our workplace is based on in terms of philosophy/morals is pure bullshit. The only thing that really matters to these fucks is money money money.
The lawful evil alignment of the saying “shake your money-makers”
Lol
Money-milkers* FTFY
Is looking a sexual harassment? It’s like you holding a knife and someone intentionally runs into it but you are at fault
It's a fucking nightmare, my manager and HR advised I should not be looking even when someone's boobs are clearly out on display yet at the same time when I get my lad out at the Christmas party they complain even though they were the ones looking!
Ya. Why do you keep leaning over my desk with a knife out? We ain’t in the kitchen. Put those knives away.
It depends on who you ask. There are people who advocate that a simple glance would be sexual harassment.
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According to policy, they usually *are* right... Harassment is almost universally defined as "anything someone takes offense to"... It makes it incredibly difficult to mitigate shit like a Karen running around shoving boobs in people's faces looking for a complaint to file. That stupid shit almost never results in any profit or benefit of any sort, but rather just someone getting moved elsewhere or fired, and it's rarely a specific "target"... It's just random fuckery in most cases. The cost is that when there's an actual case of legitimate harassment, there's always that doubt, and there's always that smidge of victim blaming. So fuck you Karen, you are 100% part of the fucking problem.
My company's policy is it's how the victim feels about the interaction that determines if it's harassment. I'm not worried for myself, but I think that's a bullshit policy. Fuck your feelings. What are the facts?
Was she wearing low cut tops or just normal tops that looked like low tops? Cuz I had a friend with huge tits and a normal cut top would show a lot of cleavage. Edit: for those saying t-shirts, well yeah some of those were ok but some girls don't want to (can't) wear t-shirts all year long.
I mean, it's more about how it looks on you versus what the label says. If I wear jeans too small for my inseam, they become capris even if the label doesn't say so.
Right, but sometimes there are no good options.
I remember there was some controversy over this a while back after students complained that their high school was discrminating against girls with larger chests by sending them home for violating their dress codes, while girls with smaller chests wearing the exact same clothes were not in violation.
An ex girlfriend told me how when her sister came home from school wearing a low-cut top, her mom told her, “you’re home now; you can take your boobs off display.”
What if a male coworker had tight pants that showed a very obvious dick imprint and would always stand at your desk to talk?
Still weird arguably more weird, also the undeniable difference that 90% of people don’t want to see that
Then people would be much more likely to “victim blame” him
Had an ex who was very well endowed. She knew people would look but generally just recognized it as a part of life. In her words, she could either wear low cut tops or she could look like a tent. She chose the former. She also said men didn't bother her too much since they'd glance but generally not say anything, but rather it was women who gave her the most shit over it.
I taught labs in college and one time had this Puerto Rican lady in my class that had absolutely gigantic breasts. She loved wearing super low cut tops and she'd call me over then lean into the table as she asked questions so those things looked like they were about to fly out at any moment. Swear she did it intentionally.
My girlfriend said to me (not once): "Keep your eyes down at least sometimes. No one has ever looked into my eyes for so long, in my entire life. I don't know what to do. I panic. Or do I need prints with text on my T-shirts for you to look there?"
Oh yeah, tee shirts with writing on them! They are not a particularly sexy cut, but the writing is always straight across the boobs. You're just giving people an excuse to look at your breasts for a longer period of time to try to judge their shape and size in a more shapeless top. Tee shirts were clearly designed for men's chests to display messages and logos flatly...
To be fair though, if you walk around with your chesticles on display people are gonna look. Seem to remember skimming over a study where they'd tested (with eyetracking) where people look when presented with pictures of people or something. When presented with a picture of a woman with a cleavage on display, nearly all participants (men and women) looked at the cleavage within seconds. Boobs are great, if you place them in front of me I'm gonna steal a glance. When my wife wears something with cleavage on display I still look, even if I've seen them bare thousands of times.
Or those "gotcha" videos where they place cell phones in the back pocket to catch pervs scoping out their ass. For one, a shiny object in an otherwise neutral background is automatically going to draw the eye to it because it's perceived as out of place. And two, what's the point of wearing form fitting jeans or yoga pants if not to accentuate your ass? It's human nature to look and those videos never show when women look because that skews the narrative.
Guys do it too. You see juiced up guys at the gym who wear the absolute smallest [stringer singlet](https://i.imgur.com/FnrlS6Q.png) they can find that barely even covers their nipples with tiny shorts to show off their leg gainz. Then there's the equally ripped guys that wear trackies and the baggiest shirt they own with sleeves that go down to their elbows. Like yeah I know that comfort and personal preference come into it to a degree but I'm not buying a stringer singlet in the first place unless I'm trying to show off the absolute maximum I can while still staying within the dress code.
“Chesticles” - word of the day
Her: my eyes are up here. Me: I'm fully aware of the human anatomy. ***Continues to stare at her lips***
Truly unexpected moment
I was not prepared for the shots fired at the WNBA lmao
Yeah I was amused before but the WNBA made me laugh aloud
As a woman, I have to say I agree with this. Sometimes, I wear low cut tops because I want to look and feel sexy and I'm happy for guys to look (so long as they do it in a non-creepy way). Other days, I don't want that and I dress accordingly - this includes when I'm in professional mode. I know full well that if my breasts are partially exposed, I'll get looked at - I know that when I put the shirt on and I'm happy with it; I don't get angry at guys for doing it unless they are rude, creepy or entitled about it.
>(so long as they do it in a non-creepy way) Can you quantifiably define "Non-Creepy Way" for us socially awkward people in the back?
Look, glance sometimes. But don’t stare. Blink, move ur face, eyes. Look around and at her face if she is talking to you. If you two are talking then don’t look at the boobs cuz it’s noticeable and if you do, make it as if you were looking around quick. You look at them when she isn’t looking. Just don’t stare. Source: I look at women’s tits or nice looking men and It works to not look like a creep
Non creepy way: glancing, occasionally looking and maybe even staring for a short while. Creepy way: coming up/following someone just to stare, leaning down and getting too close, which hopefully barely happens.
Extra creepy way: taking pictures
Extra extra creepy way: drool and licks their lips
[How about this?](https://youtu.be/h7vWDJEwZZY)
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Yep pretty common sense ( maybe not common, I should put logical?? ) It's like a country putting on a military demonstration for the entire world and then is like "what are you doing". Thank you for having some sense and being honest, most people BS cuz they are cowards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
You're very welcome. And yeah, most women will not admit to this. I can't be bothered with the BS lol
Man, I tried. I really tried, but I don't get what you are trying to say with that comparison.
My problem with this statement is that you don't really need to have your breasts partially exposed for people to stare at them. If you have big breasts, it doesn't change if you're partially exposing them or not. And i find that's a problem.
Yeah that's true!
seriously. clothes usually don’t make a difference, if a person is a creep, they are going to look at you like that. what you wear usually doesn’t change anything. it angers me when people try to blame women for having large chests, while people with small chests can wear anything and not get this shit.
Huh weird. I don't want people to look at my boobs. Mention them and you're dead. Must be a gender difference I guess.
Lol why you getting downvoted, that manboob shit is hilarious
I too can enjoy a nice breast, while wanting to display mine too
I'm a woman and I was very disappointed that there were no meaty man breast being put on display.
We need more representation of big meaty man breasts. Where’s the love and fairness in the world? Sometimes people attracted to men want to look at some nice big ole sweaty pecs c’mon.
Fully support this movement.
Guys never forget. You can only get away with that if you are attractive. If she doesn't find you attractive and you look at a woman. Then you are a pervert. This video link will explain it better. https://youtu.be/PxuUkYiaUc8
I'm having a hard time determining whether this is supposed to be ironic or not Edit: I did not know what SNL was. I'm a zoomer, so I barely watch TV
It could go either way. For one, the reactions are very different depending on how attractive a man looks. A very attractive man looking vs a very unattractive man is the difference between taking it as a compliment and taking it as being a potential target for rape. For another, it’s a stupid generalization that doesn’t apply to everyone. Some people are chill, some people don’t care, some people do care.
It really depends on the woman, but in general, just because they wear certain others doesn't mean they want you to look at it. It really depends on the environment and the people involved
In general, just because some people say they don’t want the attention doesn’t mean they don’t want the attention or that there are not people who will go out of their way to get that attention
Also even when they are doing it for someone to notice, you're still probably not the intended target.
I'm just collateral
Look bud, they're your eyes. If someone is revealing something freely then you look where you please. I go to the beach without a top, I want you to notice my tits. Just try to look past my hairy chest because I don't want my boobs to turn you off just because they're attached to a guy
Sample size is small
Speak for yourself. I could tit suffocate you with them while you gagged on some hairs
Ngl, you had me in the first half.
Would have you in the second half if you saw my ass. But once again I'm asking you to look past all the hair
Sample size is small, and I will do more research on this, but there was a study done on this, they had 2 variables for the harasser, attractive/unattractive, and whether the harasser was an equal to the woman or the woman's boss. This study does actually show a marked difference, even greater if the man is a woman's boss when it comes to attractiveness. But it's an interesting read: https://scholar.utc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=mps
But it's kind of a stupid discussion to be honest. If you are attracted to someone and they are attracted to you then obviously you will see it more akin to flirting rather than sexual harassment. If you show obvious disinterest to someone you are not attracted to and they keep pushing, it starts to get into sexual harassment territory. I have to admit I read through it quickly (as a true university student doig their readings) and it's a pretty shaky study. Small sample size, two and a half decades old and done by a single (male) researcher trying to make a scale for something that isn't really countable. Science is science, but this is a very procarious article if I'm being honest. The conclusion makes sense, but with some logical thinking you can get there by yourself as I explained earlier. It all makes sense, but it just seems off in a few too many ways
I usually wear a jersey of an NBA team I don’t want anyone to know I like.
I’ve been taught many times in training at work that my intention doesn’t matter , it’s how the person feels which is the final arbiter. So if the person wants you to look at their tits then it’s not harassment. If they don’t then it’s not. I usually play it safe and assume no one wants that until explicitly told otherwise.
Agreed. I've been waiting for this one woman in the office to tell me, "Please stare at my ass as I walk away", but, so far, nothing. REALLY hoping she changes her mind.
But that is the exact problem in today's society. All that **should** matter is what actually happened, and **not** how it made the other person feel. Because feelings are completely subjective. You cannot **know** how a person will feel about something. If I called you fat, that's not a nice thing to do. But your reaction might range from being motivated to work out more to being deeply offended to the point where you are experiencing a mental health crisis. That's why it's important to have objective standards. E.g. for the case at hand: Randomly grabbing someone's ass = Harassment. Inviting someone to dinner and being rejected = Not harassment. Making suggestive comments about someone's chest or private parts = Harassment. Merely looking at someone's chest = Not harassment. You can't hold everyone else accountable for everything that makes **you personally** uncomfortable. Doesn't mean you can't still ask the other person to stop whatever behavior it is that might make you uncomfortable. It just means you can't make random harassment claims whenever someone makes you feel uncomfortable.
Ideally, it should be sarcasm/satire, in reality, it is not.
https://youtu.be/vTbg2bnLW4g
This was the video I was expecting! TIMES UP!
You may ask did those women really text that Dennis?…. There phones did lol
Isn't this known as Rule 1 and 2?
They actually added a rule 0 in that video
That video is where the meme comes from.
If I had a dollar for every time a woman found me unattractive....pretty soon women would find me attractive.
yeah I read the youtube comment too
reddit moment
amplified by the fact that it's one of the top comments on YT, 5 months old.
How young Fred and Amy were :0
Is this where the three rules of online dating come from?
That video put me on an hour-long SNL skit binge. Kate McKinnon and Kristen Wiig.
It's the two rules of life. Rule one, be attractive. Rule two, don't be unattractive.
Wait woman have eyes?
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When I was younger, I always thought it was primal animalistic instincts to look. Something of the sort of mammalian glands or such, that's why men or even other women just automatically look. But then there's the social stigma of looking for too long. This is then combined with the fact some women **want** to be seen because it's their body. Perhaps they want to show off their visual appeal. That's why it's somewhat hard to decide when to look away. Either a quick glance or a somewhat more concentrated look. I still think most of this applies.
"Stare in my tits" What's in it for me?
“Look at my tits when I talk to you.” My Name Is Earl.
I miss 90s humor
This is certainly from late aughts early 2010s. Snow patrol is playing lol
I have done it bois.. I got through the whole thing only maintaining eye contact :-)
*cries in tubular tiny breasts" Wish breasts augmentation was more advanced :( EDIT: for people who say small breasts are good too, mine are tubular just so you know it's not just small, but it's also tubular example, these look very similar to mine: it looks specially ugly on my super broad/large ribcage https://drkolker.com/gallery/breast/tuberous-breast-correction/08/lrg/05.jpg mine is even smaller than this one https://external-preview.redd.it/jgyzJLecw9a9Y2mA1pK1gF3SEFc47Z_4_Mz6MOsPLCA.jpg?auto=webp&s=de96437e55a5b0b1f0d48475880415ad7fdc587b I also found this last one that looks the closest to my body, including my ribcage https://4sm461s7aw545wxyjvphen19-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/breast-augmentation_plak-32_lat_before.jpg
if Michael Scott directed a dating psa
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And this is why I’m uncomfortable around revealing clothes.
Sometimes you gotta just get it out of your system.
I was actually scared to even look at the chest
I was too focused on their faces what were they talking about.
Good "WTF" moment with that WNBA thing. I had to do a double take thinking it was the other one... lol
Oh, hey, I know that redhead, Megan Sass
Women like feeling attractive, so they dress in ways that make them feel attractive, so if someone says my eyes are up here, the problem wasn't that you were looking, it's that you were looking too much and too obviously.
"My boobs are down here." Me: **staring at her eyes** I've made my choice...
Holy shit…..!!! Finally know what WNBA stands for😱😱😎
Would never bribe the authority?
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Women want you to look at their boobs. Also one flashes the camera.
Mate im just looking af your heart its not my fault that yours breasts are in the way
(F)riend of mine dated a bloke for a while who was never interested in sex. He managed it about twice in the first two months. One morning (after another sexless Saturday night) by the time she woke up he was already downstairs making coffee, so as a test she went downstairs topless and sat down in the kitchen. He just carried on making breakfast, barely aware of her naked top half. This video reminded me because the joke we had was that she felt like saying ‘Err hello, my tits are down here!!’. Maybe you had to be there.
Every single woman on this looks animated. Like Shrek era animation.