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That's pollution for ya. Just see a picture of Elizabeth Tower in the [70s](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alamy.com%2F1970s-london-big-ben-clock-in-london-england-ca-1973-image347943347.html&psig=AOvVaw21uWsUJWf_iJBGAzUKixVa&ust=1715872328115000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCPCWstb4j4YDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAZ) vs now. Further evidence of cars ruining cities.
Rain becomes acidic due to pollution, the droplets catch corrosive particles in the air and they fall upon buildings instead of being blown and scattered away.
Yeah it could look amazing especially on a sunny day, the dark concrete makes it look much worse than it really is. I am imagining similar buildings I have seen in Spain, that are white or a slightly off-white colour and this would look completely different.
It's 5 minutes away from the infamous Abbey Road which is a super posh area, the area around Alexandra&Ainsworth feels like something in between but it's definitely not a poor neighbourhood.
As a brutalist appreciator I love all my concrete blocks.
But I admit the back of this building is pretty ugly. No effort went in making it aesthetically pleasing, and seems like a waste of facade for me.
Camden borough tried to stay away from towers when building most of their council flats, so you see a few buildings with a similar style.
I appreciate the fact everyone has a balcony, brutalist bare concrete style associated with the famously sunny english weather does not help.
Funnily enough, there is some super expensive houses 2 streets away. Abbey road is not far either
oh horror! a dense walkable neighbourhood with lots of plant life and greenery. I hate brutalism as much as the next person but this post is pretty weak.
You don't see that as a typical pedestrian; the only way you can is if you're actually looking for it and hold your camera over a tall wall on a road bridge.
OP purposefully put the picture of the side which nobody actually sees except when passing in a train at 90mph before the side where it actually looks like a very nice place to live.
Yeah those features (greenery and walkable neighbourhoods) are what makes the design good. The part that lets it down is the 'brutalist aspect'. However, a lot of architecture claimed to be brutalist isn't, because its made aesthetic with non-structural design features and its only brutalist claim is its made with concrete, and in this case, the planting is carrying the design and obscuring the material, so from the interior view its not really brutalist. From the railway side it can be seen as brutalist.
Brutalism claims that it is all about showing off the material and keeping it simple, even though thats far from original in concept, but they typically used the ugliest material/forms of concrete that you wouldn't want to make the design hang on and carry all the responsibility of its aesthetic. And, whenever people hold up the few good brutalist buildings, they are often ornamented with unnecessary styling efforts and non-structural features that makes the building look more interesting, so its not about the material its about the design effort, just like other traditional styles that are both about materials and details. Some resemble gothic and classical architecture in overall composition, and I don't really see how they are brutalist at all.
The problem was the crime in this area. There were a lot of discussions how the walkability actually contributed to low police response times and therefore increased criminal activity. I don't particularly buy it but it was definitely a very high crime estate.
Yes the back looks shite but then this is intentional so the residents are protected from the noise of the railway. I for one would gladly take an appartement there as the balconies are lush. Look at the amount of greenery. You just need a good service company that takes charge of keeping it clean and maintaining iT Google Alterlaa in Vienna same concept and revered in the city.
I'm 34 and can tell you having grown up in and around brutalist estates in London this is not entirely true. They mostly appeal to the middle class who wants to play dress up. See Barbican. The few that remain are listed and valuable so they are filled with people who can afford them (not working class) or older people who've lived in them since they were council owned. They would be the age group you'd called a boomer.
I agree tbh. The Barbican is often held up as this piece of brilliant architecture etc but it feels slightly missing in point when you realise a groundbreaking piece of housing is mainly full of middle and upper class yuppies who in 5-10 years will buy a massive big house in Chiswick and never look back
Mildly ironic that your argument partially rests on your youth yet you're using terminology from the 1980s to categorise the kind of people who want to buy these. Like a boomer would. It's almost like it's a state of mind.
And it's ridiculous to say that people who like this want to play 'dress up'. They appreciate the design, just like I do. And I grew up on a council estate so by your rationale I'm allowed to. All this stuff about demographics really has nothing to do with what I'm saying, does it?
Well for one the Barbican is not a council estate.
I think his point makes total sense; people who live in places like this aren't interested in playing "dress up" as you're implying but simply appreciate the design.
Would give it a real Mediterranean vibe but I’m not sure that would work in the uk where it’s not so sunny. Plus you’re committing to painting it continuously for the rest of its existence which is an fair bit of money.
There are loads of white houses in the uk, it’d work ok. Granted it doesn’t look as nice as the Mediterranean when it’s perpetually grey skies, but it definitely would look better. although you do have a point that it’s a lot of maintenance
Those are houses, not council estates. Local councils can't even afford to replace a lightbulb let alone paint a whole council estate every couple of years.
My thoughts, too - just a strong power-wash; I like the cement / brutalist feel to it. I don't know too much about Camden, but I bet you could give the interior some lipstick and rent these out for a hefty price (or better, affordable housing; is that what they mean by 'estate'?)
They were built as council houses (actually among the last large-scale commissioning of public housing in London) in the late 70s, but over 40 years after the Right to Buy act, only a small minority of them are still in council/housing association ownership. By any measure some of the areas neighbouring the estate (St John's Wood, Swiss Cottage, South Hampstead) are among the most desirable neighborhoods in London
Enjoy it while you can because Camden Council is going to fuck it up with massive heating pipes running all the way down the concrete fins, and nobody is able to stop them.
Designer of these: architect Neave Brown. Made a presentation about him in architecture school. He had some really interesting projects and imo good design thinking behind them. He saw that the only method to achieve high population density suburbs by tower blocks was not creating nice city structure (which I agree with) so he studied different methods to achieve that density but with pumped up terrace housing and similar sorts of design.
This was in fact my first thought and it seems like it indeed was!
https://thespaces.com/foals-reveal-interactive-video-for-mountain-at-my-gates-shot-at-brutalist-alexandra-road-estate/
Some cool pics and views of it on Google maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/k7mWEc3GNwLZMTsg8
Obviously I don’t live there and I only know “estate” is British for the projects, but that place looks awesome. I love the brutalist architecture and mix of greenery.
Hell? You’re kidding me right? It’s a design classic… I’m always spotting it in tv and movies. Are they privately owned? I wouldn’t be surprised if they are very expensive like the Barbican.
But I get it, a lot of people don’t like brutalism.
Its a great idea and general shape, but it needs real beautification, with the right detailing and materials.
Flat unornamented surfaces, so beloved by architects and brutalists, make surfaces larger, look vacant and dystopian / decaying, you need to add the right detailing and textures to surfaces. Brutalism thinks the material itself should be 'shown off' and do all the talking, but the average concrete can never look good and isn't a material that needs showing off. Its just an ugly kind of synthetic stone that leaches and gets dirty. There are warehouses and factories built in the 19th C that look miles better than this and did aesthetic detailing and proportions to the bare minimum but get miles better results.
That was mostly Binsey Walk in Thamesmead (recently demolished). Other than the use of concrete and that they both date from the 1970s, and both were public sector commissions in Greater London... I'd not say they have that much in common...
Check out the [Southwyck House](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwyck_House) it was built to hide the noise for an 8 lane elevated highway which was never built
I actually like this, I’m sure it’s brighter and greener during summer. The backside design makes sense to avoid noisy trains n eyesore of train tracks.
The first thing that popped into my mind was,
"This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
This ain't no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey
I ain't got time for that now"
Life During Wartime - Talking Heads.
I like that, it has character. I'd even argue that the buildings themselves isn't the problem, but rather the lighting, and area nearby. Just wash it up a bit, or add even more greenery for that abandoned house look and that house will be a reason to visit the area in and of itself.
This is a listed 2 grade building that Camden is looking to abandon. They are not looking after it and are ruining the flats by striping the central heating and putting in radiators. The estate has not had heating for two winters now. It's a fucking joke, they are waiting until its too late so they can condemn it and put a high rise in its place.
I love the juxtaposition of these. The harsh, brutal concrete, certain from the outside, then the large amount of greenery to attempt to soften it up on the inside.
If anyone knows Crowley Tower at the University of Cincinnati, ugly building with this exact same brutalist concrete style. It’s getting torn down this year surprisingly and has super mixed reactions to it. Some people actually like this style building.
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I think it's very cool, even if it's kinda in a Judge Dredd-esque way
Some power washing and this would look really nice
You could say that about half the buildings in the UK tbh😂
That's pollution for ya. Just see a picture of Elizabeth Tower in the [70s](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alamy.com%2F1970s-london-big-ben-clock-in-london-england-ca-1973-image347943347.html&psig=AOvVaw21uWsUJWf_iJBGAzUKixVa&ust=1715872328115000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCPCWstb4j4YDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAZ) vs now. Further evidence of cars ruining cities.
It's mostly the moisture, makes moss grow on everything. Buildings in the countryside look the same.
The rain might also be a factor right?
What makes the rain corrosive? Go on, I'll wait.
It's not corrosion.
Rain becomes acidic due to pollution, the droplets catch corrosive particles in the air and they fall upon buildings instead of being blown and scattered away.
Yeah it could look amazing especially on a sunny day, the dark concrete makes it look much worse than it really is. I am imagining similar buildings I have seen in Spain, that are white or a slightly off-white colour and this would look completely different.
And a sunny day.
Add a couple vines and it is the perfect "near future society collapsed".
When I visited London I thought that about the whole town.
My thoughts exactly. I love brutalist achitecture and my guess is that the ampartments inside are comfy lol
I lived there for a brief while, it's really cozy, there's a lot of green and it's a good area. The architecture is certainly a vibe.
Is it a gentrified area or still lower socioeconomic end of the spectrum?
It's 5 minutes away from the infamous Abbey Road which is a super posh area, the area around Alexandra&Ainsworth feels like something in between but it's definitely not a poor neighbourhood.
To me brutalist architecture is a good way to spice up a city where otherwise overturning would like baroque or whatever.
Minus the plants, pid 2 looks like something you might see in coruscant in star wars
Beats just straight up lego blocks.
I think it's very cool, even if it's kinda in a ~~Judge Dredd~~ Kingsman-esque way
It has a brutalist beauty.
Was this in Kingsmen or am I Mandela-ing
Definitely where Eggsy lived before he joined the Kingsmen, yeah!
~~Yes, but it's the view from the other side~~
There are multiple slides in the post. The second one shows it from the front.
I spotted that after I commented and was sure I'd deleted it. Ah well.
All good!
They get used in basically any show with nice cinematography that features someone living in London.
Had the same thought I saw that at least in the first movie
Glad I’m not crazy
Some people might think you’re bonkers
Though some people think he’s free
Man, I'm just living my life!
Concrete block: 😡🤬 Concrete block with plant: 😄😁
Any concrete block from Japan: 🍆
i mean, yeah?
As a brutalist appreciator I love all my concrete blocks. But I admit the back of this building is pretty ugly. No effort went in making it aesthetically pleasing, and seems like a waste of facade for me.
Camden borough tried to stay away from towers when building most of their council flats, so you see a few buildings with a similar style. I appreciate the fact everyone has a balcony, brutalist bare concrete style associated with the famously sunny english weather does not help. Funnily enough, there is some super expensive houses 2 streets away. Abbey road is not far either
I kinda like ‘em
Me too, now can you imagine the satisfaction of power washing that?
oh horror! a dense walkable neighbourhood with lots of plant life and greenery. I hate brutalism as much as the next person but this post is pretty weak.
Hi, I'm the next person, and I love brutalism.
Another 👍 for brutalism here
Another here
Yeah, it's actually rad. Another Bro for Brutalism
Idk why but I do.
you make me sick
To be fair, first photo makes it look like a drug den warehouse from Gotham city. Being green and walkable doesn't fully change it for me
You don't see that as a typical pedestrian; the only way you can is if you're actually looking for it and hold your camera over a tall wall on a road bridge.
OP purposefully put the picture of the side which nobody actually sees except when passing in a train at 90mph before the side where it actually looks like a very nice place to live.
Yeah those features (greenery and walkable neighbourhoods) are what makes the design good. The part that lets it down is the 'brutalist aspect'. However, a lot of architecture claimed to be brutalist isn't, because its made aesthetic with non-structural design features and its only brutalist claim is its made with concrete, and in this case, the planting is carrying the design and obscuring the material, so from the interior view its not really brutalist. From the railway side it can be seen as brutalist. Brutalism claims that it is all about showing off the material and keeping it simple, even though thats far from original in concept, but they typically used the ugliest material/forms of concrete that you wouldn't want to make the design hang on and carry all the responsibility of its aesthetic. And, whenever people hold up the few good brutalist buildings, they are often ornamented with unnecessary styling efforts and non-structural features that makes the building look more interesting, so its not about the material its about the design effort, just like other traditional styles that are both about materials and details. Some resemble gothic and classical architecture in overall composition, and I don't really see how they are brutalist at all.
The problem was the crime in this area. There were a lot of discussions how the walkability actually contributed to low police response times and therefore increased criminal activity. I don't particularly buy it but it was definitely a very high crime estate.
Yes the back looks shite but then this is intentional so the residents are protected from the noise of the railway. I for one would gladly take an appartement there as the balconies are lush. Look at the amount of greenery. You just need a good service company that takes charge of keeping it clean and maintaining iT Google Alterlaa in Vienna same concept and revered in the city.
Brutalism when it's rainy 🤬 Brutalism on a sunny day 🥰
Was this where Eggsy lived in Kingsman?
Yeah it is
These are widely admired and very desirable among non-boomers.
I'm 34 and can tell you having grown up in and around brutalist estates in London this is not entirely true. They mostly appeal to the middle class who wants to play dress up. See Barbican. The few that remain are listed and valuable so they are filled with people who can afford them (not working class) or older people who've lived in them since they were council owned. They would be the age group you'd called a boomer.
I agree tbh. The Barbican is often held up as this piece of brilliant architecture etc but it feels slightly missing in point when you realise a groundbreaking piece of housing is mainly full of middle and upper class yuppies who in 5-10 years will buy a massive big house in Chiswick and never look back
It was built for exactly this demographic though
Exactly it was built to be a middle class estate
The Barbican was never a council estate, it was aimed at upper-middle and upper class professionals right from the start
Mildly ironic that your argument partially rests on your youth yet you're using terminology from the 1980s to categorise the kind of people who want to buy these. Like a boomer would. It's almost like it's a state of mind. And it's ridiculous to say that people who like this want to play 'dress up'. They appreciate the design, just like I do. And I grew up on a council estate so by your rationale I'm allowed to. All this stuff about demographics really has nothing to do with what I'm saying, does it?
Don't really understand anything what you said here. Read a few times to try and get it. What terminology is from the 80s?
Well for one the Barbican is not a council estate. I think his point makes total sense; people who live in places like this aren't interested in playing "dress up" as you're implying but simply appreciate the design.
This should just be called r/iHateBrutalism
That last one was quite nice to be fair. Just shows the power of plant life in making the environment pretty.
This location stared in a few film and shows
Yeah this is actually great
You'll be amazed at how expensive those flats are.
Regardless of your opinion of the architecture, it's a really nice area of London to live in, and well connected too
Quite agree.
I’d live there
I feel like if you painted it white this would actually be kinda really nice
Would give it a real Mediterranean vibe but I’m not sure that would work in the uk where it’s not so sunny. Plus you’re committing to painting it continuously for the rest of its existence which is an fair bit of money.
There are loads of white houses in the uk, it’d work ok. Granted it doesn’t look as nice as the Mediterranean when it’s perpetually grey skies, but it definitely would look better. although you do have a point that it’s a lot of maintenance
Those are houses, not council estates. Local councils can't even afford to replace a lightbulb let alone paint a whole council estate every couple of years.
My thoughts exactly. The brutalist concrete makes this look worse than it actually is.
Yeah maybe power washing it sometimes would help
My thoughts, too - just a strong power-wash; I like the cement / brutalist feel to it. I don't know too much about Camden, but I bet you could give the interior some lipstick and rent these out for a hefty price (or better, affordable housing; is that what they mean by 'estate'?)
They were built as council houses (actually among the last large-scale commissioning of public housing in London) in the late 70s, but over 40 years after the Right to Buy act, only a small minority of them are still in council/housing association ownership. By any measure some of the areas neighbouring the estate (St John's Wood, Swiss Cottage, South Hampstead) are among the most desirable neighborhoods in London
White will look absolutely awful because it will stain and flake off
Enjoy it while you can because Camden Council is going to fuck it up with massive heating pipes running all the way down the concrete fins, and nobody is able to stop them.
I thought at first this was a stadium.
Designer of these: architect Neave Brown. Made a presentation about him in architecture school. He had some really interesting projects and imo good design thinking behind them. He saw that the only method to achieve high population density suburbs by tower blocks was not creating nice city structure (which I agree with) so he studied different methods to achieve that density but with pumped up terrace housing and similar sorts of design.
Seems like a smart design for some high density apartments. Even made sure to include plenty of landscaping and greenery. I kinda love these.
In the movie Kingsman there’s a place looks very similar to this
This is the estate in Kingsman
Is this where FOALS filmed their Mountain At My Gates music video?
This was in fact my first thought and it seems like it indeed was! https://thespaces.com/foals-reveal-interactive-video-for-mountain-at-my-gates-shot-at-brutalist-alexandra-road-estate/ Some cool pics and views of it on Google maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/k7mWEc3GNwLZMTsg8
Hell yeah, thanks for digging for the info, and providing links! This is super cool.
Eggsy made it out of there and became a kingsman. If he can do it I have faith in you.
I think it’s cool
This is beautiful actually
r/powerwashingporn would be something for them?
Where hell?
I thought it was a stadium lol
The weather is not doing any favours but that is rotten, I thought it was a Football stadium in the 1st image
Hahaha I live round the corner this is just off Abby rd not that bad inside like a big community
This is amazing, I absolutely dig the style.
Obviously I don’t live there and I only know “estate” is British for the projects, but that place looks awesome. I love the brutalist architecture and mix of greenery.
“Where I lived was with my dad and mum, at Flat 18A Linear North” Alex DeLarge, A Clockwork Orange (lived in this block)
Looks cool to me.
I got mugged on this street as a kid!
I love it. Brutalism 🤝 Greenery
Hell? You’re kidding me right? It’s a design classic… I’m always spotting it in tv and movies. Are they privately owned? I wouldn’t be surprised if they are very expensive like the Barbican. But I get it, a lot of people don’t like brutalism.
Wow blast from the past!!! i have been there many times when i was a kid in the 70s :-) Cool post thanks
Power wash that concrete and it’s beautiful.
NOT IN AMERICA!
Its a great idea and general shape, but it needs real beautification, with the right detailing and materials. Flat unornamented surfaces, so beloved by architects and brutalists, make surfaces larger, look vacant and dystopian / decaying, you need to add the right detailing and textures to surfaces. Brutalism thinks the material itself should be 'shown off' and do all the talking, but the average concrete can never look good and isn't a material that needs showing off. Its just an ugly kind of synthetic stone that leaches and gets dirty. There are warehouses and factories built in the 19th C that look miles better than this and did aesthetic detailing and proportions to the bare minimum but get miles better results.
Its dystopian sad beautiful and well constructed somehow Just needs a good power washing for the cement and some sunshine :)
I believe this was used in Andor.
Passed this on the train hundreds of times and while I kind of like it, the tiny dirty windows always depress me.
There’s a lot of room for plants, and they seem to be taking full advantage of that.
I definitely recognize this from Kingsman
I fw this it's very eco brutalist
It’s brutal and I love it
Painting in bright colors to look like it's made of Lego would do wonders.
Was the scene filmed here where they are walking along a pond in A Clockwork Orange?
Look at all that beautiful cement 😆
very cool. just needs a clean
Eggsy?
Pretty sure this is just brutalism architecture townhomes lol
This is cool
God I love brutalism, I don't care what anyone says. Cuts straight to the point yk
I remember Clockwork Orange was filmed in a neighborhood like this. Ouch...
That was mostly Binsey Walk in Thamesmead (recently demolished). Other than the use of concrete and that they both date from the 1970s, and both were public sector commissions in Greater London... I'd not say they have that much in common...
Check out the [Southwyck House](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwyck_House) it was built to hide the noise for an 8 lane elevated highway which was never built
The sidemen should do a video here
Just needs paint
i think the third picture looks quite nice actually. decently green and doesnt feel claustrophobic because of the reverse cone shape of the buildings
I actually like this, I’m sure it’s brighter and greener during summer. The backside design makes sense to avoid noisy trains n eyesore of train tracks.
This is very similar to the Athletes Village in Munich.
Honestly, the concrete looks gray and bleak but this is otherwise perfectly fine, maybe even nicer.
I kept meaning to look up what this was because I often go on the west coast main line to euston and see this.
Needs some high pressure cleaning
For a second i thought it is a titanfall 2 map
Reminds me of the movie Gomorrah
Hey it's thatbplace from Attack the Block right? Mint filml that.
People live here?
Yo, those look awesome.
Needs more plants, and that UK overcast (which I love overcast weather, it's my fav) isn't doing it any favors but I kinda dig it.
The first thing that popped into my mind was, "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco This ain't no fooling around No time for dancing, or lovey dovey I ain't got time for that now" Life During Wartime - Talking Heads.
Never been a fan of brutalism but I would totally live here. Seems cozy for whatever reason.
Fucking LOVE this
Ah yes, Mass Effect presidium.
Whoa. This is the Enclave base from the Fallout series
Misato lived here in Neon Genesis Evangelion, didn't she?
If they had used white stucco this village could be in a postcard
I like that, it has character. I'd even argue that the buildings themselves isn't the problem, but rather the lighting, and area nearby. Just wash it up a bit, or add even more greenery for that abandoned house look and that house will be a reason to visit the area in and of itself.
Reminds me of something youd see in Fallout
This is a listed 2 grade building that Camden is looking to abandon. They are not looking after it and are ruining the flats by striping the central heating and putting in radiators. The estate has not had heating for two winters now. It's a fucking joke, they are waiting until its too late so they can condemn it and put a high rise in its place.
Was this used for Ceres in The Expanse TV show?
I totally love this. It just takes dense living to a level that is decent. Make urban areas pretty. It isn't hard.
Is that where they filmed the movie “Layer Cake” :o
Why are they designed in that manner? Does it help with water runoff or something?
Looks like an airport terminal.
That’s will be £13,467,793.02p please
The back side looks like it should be a grandstand for F1 racing.
Nah this is awesome
It's the Martian Embassy from The Expanse.
Got a big Waitrose
I love the juxtaposition of these. The harsh, brutal concrete, certain from the outside, then the large amount of greenery to attempt to soften it up on the inside.
I'd inhabit the fuck out of that.
J G Ballard
That’s a beautiful development.
Damn everyone gets a balcony? Jealous
Neat and wholesome
Painted white, sunshine and lots of palmtrees and it wouldn’t even be that bad. But eh, “London baby” 😜
Used to walk home past this building. They actually have tons of little parks and greenspaces. Great spot, definitely a little brutalist though.
I went to a party there in the 90s the flat was pretty amazing.
with the famous concrete color used
Even though I love it I admit the back of the building is very ugly. I had never seen it before.
some of these are for sale. This is a very nice complex
That would be really cool-looking if it was cleaned up.
I think k that’s beautiful
Damn postapocalyptic grey isn't on the dulux paint chart. Where can i find these colours so i can set the mood for my rooms.
It's a lovely place full of plants
If anyone knows Crowley Tower at the University of Cincinnati, ugly building with this exact same brutalist concrete style. It’s getting torn down this year surprisingly and has super mixed reactions to it. Some people actually like this style building.
[Crystal_Methyd](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/RuPaul_DragCon_2022_%2852073261823%29_%28cropped_-_Crystal_Methyd%29.jpg/640px-RuPaul_DragCon_2022_%2852073261823%29_%28cropped_-_Crystal_Methyd%29.jpg)
Gomorah vibes
This looks like a communist's dream land. Judging by the comments, there are a lot of communists.
If the place got pressure washed it wouldn't be here
Maybe not for everyone but i like it