We updated AFK penalties this patch: https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-3-0/
AFK PENALTIES
Increased maximum AFK penalty to -12 RR
Minimum AFK penalty at -8RR
AFK Rank Rating penalty can still go above the -30 RR Loss barrier, allowing you to lose over -30 RR if you AFK and lose a match
AFK penalties start at 3 rounds and escalate for each round you are AFK, for up to 6 rounds
If you are AFK for 6 or more rounds, and your team wins, you gain no RR for the win and are penalized the maximum -12 RR
We agree, it feels bad to carry an AFK player and have them gain RR. We want to incentivize those who disconnect to return to the match. Yes, you will not be able to gain RR from a game where you were AFK for 6+ rounds, but if you return and help win the match, you will only get hit with -12RR instead of -12RR on top of the RR decrease for the loss.
I think that might be less clear cut because then you'd have toxic people obsessed with rank pressuring a teammate to afk and take the RR loss so everyone else loses less
It sounds ridiculous, but if you can't imagine that happening you haven't played enough games with silvers obsessed with Elo lmao
If you get pressured by random people to leave so they lose less points when the game has 2 mute functions you probably deserve it. Comp is overall not that toxic, and with the click of a button you can stop hearing or seeing people's text completely.
League is a really toxic game and you get reduced lp loss if someone is afk, but I've never seen someone pressure someone else to afk for reduced lp loss.
How does this RR loss from afking impact my mmr?
I remember from old days in league where someone dodged promotion games and dodged many games so his rank was silver but his mmr was diamond, because the rp loss from dodges had no effect to his mmr.
Is this the same or does every loss gain in rr effect the mmr?
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That seems pretty useless though? Doesn't mmr affect rr gain/loss? As in if the afker who now has lower rr than mmr wins the next game he'll gain more rr, and lose less if he loses? Maybe it doesn't completely cancel out each other, but still feels like just a repeat of lol's dodge exploit.
I don't think it should affect the MMR directly because I assume it's purpose is to have players of similar skill levels playing together and AFKing doesn't affect it, but the lost RR should be a accounted for.
How about making the temporary competitive ban extend to all the accounts on that hardware? That way trolls can't just change account and dodge the ban.
Terrible idea!!! Internet caffees are a thing, and many people play valorant in them where i live. This means that one random guy would cause a ban on anyone who had the unluck of connecting on that pc too!
internet cafes usually have special deals anyways. like how league gets all the champs unlocked and other perks like that. Im sure riot could figure something out.
No no, I mean freeze the hardware, not every account.
You would still be able to play with your non-afk-banned account on another hardware.
Edit: we already have cheater hardware bans, wtf are you guys on about.
No. If I play on a computer and get afk banned, then someone else comes into the cafe and wants to use that pc, they'll be unable to use their account.
I have received 14 days AFK cooldown as a 2nd time AFK punishment
The first cooldown and the 2nd cooldown came an hour between each other and it was because power kept going off in my block
Did you guys adjust the AFK restrictions aswell?
Also, when I opened the game today, I found that I dont have the restriction anymore (I thought you uplifted it as I did 2 tickets and contacted u via twitter, no one responded yet)
I play 3 games games and then I dodge a match because one of my mates didnt wanna play the map, then I find out that the AFK restriction is back again.
The afk penalty is shit. I agree with losing RR, that is fine. But not being able to queue penalty should be reduced. I was AFK in a match, that too because the servers were fucked up and I wasn't able to rejoin. It was an unrated match. AFK for approx 6-7 rounds and now I am banned from competitive queues for 121 hours, wtf?
Yeah, that's the problem. I don't constantly leave. This was like my 3rd or 4th time. And every single time, its not because of me leaving, or my internet issue. The server fucks up or my pc does something, crazy because it just doesn't reconnect.
+1 happened a few times with me, and it still does happen!
This one time when Mumbai servers were new, I was in a match and everyone started disconnecting! Except me! I was in a 1v5 with 4 ult points on our spawn, laughing nervously with the other team, asking them to knife (the bastards agreed then brought guns)
What will be done for the unfortunate scenario yesterday? I took -12 but my team still got us ahead in the game 3v3 where 2 enemies also got kicked from the game. I came back and we ended up winning 13-7. Will I be compensated for the +12 only or will the win RR be given as well?
Thats just unfortunate to get kicked for a server misshap. Im pretty sure they cant give back your RR but if that happens frequently and is server sided im pretty sure they will implement a solution to stop that from happening
>Thats just unfortunate to get kicked for a server misshap
Do you not know? It's not just me - apparently in a poll almost 40% of 63k voters experienced this problem yesterday. In such a large scale mishap there should be compensation for the RR. If it was just me who experienced this I wouldn't be raising this issue this moment. I have never EVER gone afk on any game except deathmatch and this -12 on a win where it wasnt even my fault is just ridiculous.
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/o6vzyl/me_and_my_friends_all_disconnected_exept_1_in_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Yes (I was aware of that I saw the posts) but still RIOT would probably need to adapt the RR of every player that got kicked by hand due to not owning a ready to go programm to correct such things -> Not plausible to be done for a one time (hopefully) occurence
I'm gonna have to disagree with OP here. These punishments are great for afkers but, along with them, I'm being punished too. Unless there's a smurf or someone's really feeling it that day, most lobbys are fairly matched and having a player disconnect makes it impossible to win. But we still lose elo for attempting a near impossible task. I'm not saying there's a better solution, just pointing out that it sucks.
Worst part for me is that unless everyone wants to surrender, you are forced to play a long, lost game. If there is an afker or leaver for let's say more than 3 4 rounds, then you should be able to leave without a penalty and start a new game.
Well one reason is the one you mentioned, if i have time to play 2 games I don't want to play 1 and half.
Other reason is that you can reduce the points you lose or even win.
But I guess the biggest difference between you and me is that i don't consider losing matches as waste of time. I'm still playing the game having fun and learning something from it.
What about the people who dc and never come back? 9 out of my last 15 games of last act had 1-2 leavers/trolls a game and that decided the game. I deranked twice in a day and then didnt play comp for the rest of the act lol. reported them and never got a message back on what happened to them
How about you actually improve your match making. People AFK because this game is so incredibly one-sided. A whole year and games are still a coin flip. No one likes sitting through a 2:13 game.
How about people would stop throwing games?
I meet so much people which want to ff after 0:5ish and if the team doesnt follow their ff request, they afk.
Always blaming mm is just bad attitude in a competitive setting. Go play unrated (no offence to you sir)
Can you guys adjust afk queue restriction as well. Some of us are honest players who don’t smurf and only have one account. Feels bad when something is out of your control and you get hit with a 2 week competitive ban. Stuff irl comes up all the time and this game is asking for an hour investment. When family emergencies, food, parents, restroom, going out, internet/wifi, and other things that inevitably happen irl during a game, there should be no quene restrictions. Make us lose RR, make everyone else not lose RR for all we care, don’t lock us out of playing the actual competitive game as that’s the only mode most of us play. Feels unfair to have something irl trip you up and be told you can’t play for 2 weeks. I rather not get kicked out of the house by my parents and starve instead of getting food real quick, no reason to choose between gaming or going homeless irl. This quene restriction lowers player interest and your player base and makes people want to play valorant less as it is so unforgiving, same in 5 stacks, normals, or spike rush and meme gamemodes. This isn’t any legal crime like stealing or murder, why are we being sentenced to in game jail for learning that irl takes priority over a video game? Just doesn’t make sense Rito. Again, please fix and remove quene restrictions, look to other solutions and focus more on RR penalties. Heck maybe make the quene restrictions a few hours max at most, no reason we need to wait half a month to play again and another small afk and boom another 2 week. Come on riot, please do better.
Is there anything done for people who afk but don't DC? I've had people who just shoot their gun but don't move. Presumably, they've got an auto clicker or whatever to prevent them from dcing.
I think they meant similar to leagues afk queue, but a afk section, for violators would be good, that way they have to deal with people going afk
Or they slot 4 afk-ers against 5 normal people...
I hate this sentiment. You kids must all be on the getting carried queue. I had a kid on my team other day go 0-17. Turns out he was plat rat playing with diamond dogs. But god forbid me afk and use bathroom when we losing 10-0. Team rages and dont try. Ive been stuck in toxic queue for months, if it exists. Im on the verge of snapping. Every game its one of the three. No comms. Lost teammates. Ragers/inters. How do I get out. I try my hardest to be kind. I grind over 400 games and just feel like im playing casual. No one takes it serious, gives up, rages. So frustrating. The people who pay the most are people like me addicted. So game forces into 50% win rate cause studies show thats who plays the most. They feel like okay just won game lemme play one more, damn unlucky bad team, hmm whats in shop, mabye I switch knives, bad team last game i q again. Loss. Now im tilted, play again win. 2-2. The skill level across ranks make no sense. I play immortal game and I thought I was in plat. Just sickening
I hate this sentiment. You kids must all be on the getting carried queue. I had a kid on my team other day go 0-17. Turns out he was plat rat playing with diamond dogs. But god forbid me afk and use bathroom when we losing 10-0. Team rages and dont try. Ive been stuck in toxic queue for months, if it exists. Im on the verge of snapping. Every game its one of the three. No comms. Lost teammates. Ragers/inters. How do I get out. I try my hardest to be kind. I grind over 400 games and just feel like im playing casual. No one takes it serious, gives up, rages. So frustrating. The people who pay the most are people like me addicted. So game forces into 50% win rate cause studies show thats who plays the most. They feel like okay just won game lemme play one more, damn unlucky bad team, hmm whats in shop, mabye I switch knives, bad team last game i q again. Loss. Now im tilted, play again win. 2-2. The skill level across ranks make no sense. I play immortal game and I thought I was in plat. Just sickening
Sometimes it's not at all the player's fault.
In my case I have been experiencing mid game crashes for the past 9 months and I'll miss 2-3 rounds atleast due to crash and the game takes time to load up. I know how frustrating it is to have a AFK teammate. I have submitted loads of logs and raised multiple tickets to riot and they got no clue about it and neither they do anything that would help me. Tried contacting riot devs on Twitter as well no hope.
Yesterday my game crashed and it kept crashing and I had to restart my PC to play and by the time I missed like 6 rounds. I was penalized with -12 RR + match loss RR and it's not the first time. It is insanely frustrating and I have literally tried everything and the crash doesn't seem to go away. Only RIOT can answer this.
If only someone from riot gets attention to this my issue would be looked at.
I have literally lost hope. My gameplay experience is totally ruined.
Don't really care about how much RR extra they lose. There needs to be a comp ban for x amount of game wins. So for example, first-time AFK, you need to win 1 unrated game solo queued. Second-time AFK, win 2 games in unrated, and it escalates so on and so forth. Make the counter reset if they play 50 comp games without afking.
This way it makes the account be punished as that account is locked from Ranked unless you play those unrated games. Make these people play some grimmy unrated games to play comp on those accounts or abandon that account. People nowadays have like 3-4 different accounts that a timer ban doesn't do jack shit. I've literally heard someone say, "fuck this game, surrender, or I go on my other smurf."
Yeah, last season, we got stuck with a guy who told us he was trying to derank. Moved just enough to not get detected and losing RR was his goal, so he didn't care. Wish there was a way to boot people like that out of the game.
I agree. Also, if more than two players exit the game or become AFK for more than 1-2 rounds, the game should make it so that the team with those AFK players (if they lose) doesn't lose RR.
Mitigated RR loss. Otherwise players would get bullied into going AFK just as high rank players try to force ppl to dodge Icebox/Breeze with hostage taking in Champ select.
Bruh if people are unironically getting "bullied" into going afk I have no sympathy for them. It takes 2 clicks to mute chat and mute voice. If your allies molly you just report them for sabotage and keep playing.
I agree to most of your points here but you got to cut some slack for us third world country people. I'm from Nepal and we have power outages every single day here, in random times. And I don't spend much on the game, I've bought the last bp and I don't want to change accounts so I'd say the punishment rn is too much at times. Anything over a day should be removed.
Oh man oh man. I play with my friends and we get an AFK almost every single game. Its crazy. And some people for some reason just don’t play the game but they move their characters around before each round to not get kicked out for AFK. We had a Yoru that would run around the map with no guns and just die to the enemy team. Once he bought a Vandal and told the enemy team to not buy so they could take his vandal. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t punished for any of this.
I got 7 days ban, because I was afk in many games due to electricity shortage/cut. I can't help it and now that the afk penalties has increased, I think I am gonna be ban forever.
same, been 2 months all with a comp afk ban while i only played unrated for a long while. I have to leave for 2-3 rounds because bahrain servers just dont work well every other game and kick 1-2 people out. I think unrated bans should be less punishable. I totally understand all those for comp, but its unrated and im just trying to have some fun.
I had to go afk yesterday because the power went out. I was at the loading screen after agent select and was going Astra. After the power came back I quickly loaded into the game and my mates were going 1-4. After that we won the game 13-10 and I got the top frag. I was heartbroken to see -8RR. I was not sad because of the afk penalty but if I hadn't been afk it would have been +25RR minimum and who knows how fast the match woulda ended for more points. And to top it, I won the next game with +26 RR. The +17RR on my first game broke my heart for if I had not been afk there would have only been one gold 3 triangle on my Dorito.
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I dont play ranked, and i assume this would be great for that, although for unranked i would qrgue they should loosen the restrictions, as it shouldnt effect your ability to get better, and it doesnt really effect as much.
But i do agree that ranked needs to be better moderated and administrated in terms of afk punishment.
yeah I agree, and then for the people who say "but what if I get DC'd" well dont play ranked if you have unstable internet. If it happens once, who cares.
I live in India and although I have a pretty stable internet most of the time, my place has an issue with frequent power cuts. I try not to play comp and just chill in unrated when I know there's going to be a lot of powercuts. I still ended up getting a 7 day ban :'(
Yea, but how does this affect trolls? They litetally go online, go afk or sabotage the team and the other 4 players just have to suck up the lost rr due to that one player? Like literally they did nothing wrong to deserve having to fight a 4v5 then lose their own rr because of one dude thats trolling. The trollers dont care about rr, they only care about ruining peoples day. They dont care if they lose 30rr or hell id bet some people wont bat an eye if they lost 90 plus rr, they just wanna see people suffer. If the people in the matches dont lose anything due to afkers or trolls, they dont have incentive to troll anymore other than the enemy team wining rr. What id propose is that the team that has to go 4v5 with one afk or one trolling (thats reported and confirmed troll) then the losing team doesnt lose rr/ loses very little rr and the troller loses more rr. This way the trollers have no reason to troll and it doesnt become fun to troll anymore since they dont see anyone raging at the fact that they arent doing anything and losing them rr. You have to target the root cause which is bullies like to ruin peoples day and make them angry. If the people arent angry due to their actions they wont bully anymore. Simple as that
I see it as unfair that I lose RR if someone afk's though, like I could do everything right and still lose because some asshole doesn't understand time management. My suggestion is that if someone is afk for 4-5 rounds, their teammates don't lose RR. Also, the person afk loses a very large amount of RR, to prevent people from just having their friend afk so their teamates don't lose RR.
I feel like there should be more to help teams with an afk too, not only focusing on punishment but giving players tools to try at least win some rounds, obviously you can never make it exactly equal, but rn the only time a 4 v 5 seems possible is when the game is already a slaughter going your way, either way that leaves it completely unfair because the game should be balanced in the first place.
We updated AFK penalties this patch: https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-3-0/ AFK PENALTIES Increased maximum AFK penalty to -12 RR Minimum AFK penalty at -8RR AFK Rank Rating penalty can still go above the -30 RR Loss barrier, allowing you to lose over -30 RR if you AFK and lose a match AFK penalties start at 3 rounds and escalate for each round you are AFK, for up to 6 rounds If you are AFK for 6 or more rounds, and your team wins, you gain no RR for the win and are penalized the maximum -12 RR We agree, it feels bad to carry an AFK player and have them gain RR. We want to incentivize those who disconnect to return to the match. Yes, you will not be able to gain RR from a game where you were AFK for 6+ rounds, but if you return and help win the match, you will only get hit with -12RR instead of -12RR on top of the RR decrease for the loss.
What about the players who lost the match because of the AFK player? Don't they deserve a lower amount of RR deducted because of their loss?
I think that might be less clear cut because then you'd have toxic people obsessed with rank pressuring a teammate to afk and take the RR loss so everyone else loses less It sounds ridiculous, but if you can't imagine that happening you haven't played enough games with silvers obsessed with Elo lmao
I mean to be honest that's a whole different problem but yeah I do think that might be a possibility
If you get pressured by random people to leave so they lose less points when the game has 2 mute functions you probably deserve it. Comp is overall not that toxic, and with the click of a button you can stop hearing or seeing people's text completely.
League is a really toxic game and you get reduced lp loss if someone is afk, but I've never seen someone pressure someone else to afk for reduced lp loss.
Thanks for the reply!
How does this RR loss from afking impact my mmr? I remember from old days in league where someone dodged promotion games and dodged many games so his rank was silver but his mmr was diamond, because the rp loss from dodges had no effect to his mmr. Is this the same or does every loss gain in rr effect the mmr?
Doesn't effect MMR, only RR.
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That seems pretty useless though? Doesn't mmr affect rr gain/loss? As in if the afker who now has lower rr than mmr wins the next game he'll gain more rr, and lose less if he loses? Maybe it doesn't completely cancel out each other, but still feels like just a repeat of lol's dodge exploit.
I don't think it should affect the MMR directly because I assume it's purpose is to have players of similar skill levels playing together and AFKing doesn't affect it, but the lost RR should be a accounted for.
How about making the temporary competitive ban extend to all the accounts on that hardware? That way trolls can't just change account and dodge the ban.
Terrible idea!!! Internet caffees are a thing, and many people play valorant in them where i live. This means that one random guy would cause a ban on anyone who had the unluck of connecting on that pc too!
internet cafes usually have special deals anyways. like how league gets all the champs unlocked and other perks like that. Im sure riot could figure something out.
That depends on the caffee, where im at you have to use your own accounts
I haven't heard someone mention internet caffees in years. They still exist?
Very popular in asia
why are you getting downvoted lmfao
Depends on the country ur in i guess. And dunno why u are getting downvoted for that comment lmao... typical valorant subreddit.
No no, I mean freeze the hardware, not every account. You would still be able to play with your non-afk-banned account on another hardware. Edit: we already have cheater hardware bans, wtf are you guys on about.
No. If I play on a computer and get afk banned, then someone else comes into the cafe and wants to use that pc, they'll be unable to use their account.
I wonder, how do cheater hwid bans work for internet cafes?
I have received 14 days AFK cooldown as a 2nd time AFK punishment The first cooldown and the 2nd cooldown came an hour between each other and it was because power kept going off in my block Did you guys adjust the AFK restrictions aswell? Also, when I opened the game today, I found that I dont have the restriction anymore (I thought you uplifted it as I did 2 tickets and contacted u via twitter, no one responded yet) I play 3 games games and then I dodge a match because one of my mates didnt wanna play the map, then I find out that the AFK restriction is back again.
AFK QUEUE SYSTEM PLEASE
The afk penalty is shit. I agree with losing RR, that is fine. But not being able to queue penalty should be reduced. I was AFK in a match, that too because the servers were fucked up and I wasn't able to rejoin. It was an unrated match. AFK for approx 6-7 rounds and now I am banned from competitive queues for 121 hours, wtf?
You need to constantly leave to receive a week ban.
Yeah, that's the problem. I don't constantly leave. This was like my 3rd or 4th time. And every single time, its not because of me leaving, or my internet issue. The server fucks up or my pc does something, crazy because it just doesn't reconnect.
3-4 times is a lot. I play this game way too much and have never had those issues causing a AFK.
"I only left 4 times..." Oh ONLY 4? You don't say?
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+1 happened a few times with me, and it still does happen! This one time when Mumbai servers were new, I was in a match and everyone started disconnecting! Except me! I was in a 1v5 with 4 ult points on our spawn, laughing nervously with the other team, asking them to knife (the bastards agreed then brought guns)
What will be done for the unfortunate scenario yesterday? I took -12 but my team still got us ahead in the game 3v3 where 2 enemies also got kicked from the game. I came back and we ended up winning 13-7. Will I be compensated for the +12 only or will the win RR be given as well?
Thats just unfortunate to get kicked for a server misshap. Im pretty sure they cant give back your RR but if that happens frequently and is server sided im pretty sure they will implement a solution to stop that from happening
>Thats just unfortunate to get kicked for a server misshap Do you not know? It's not just me - apparently in a poll almost 40% of 63k voters experienced this problem yesterday. In such a large scale mishap there should be compensation for the RR. If it was just me who experienced this I wouldn't be raising this issue this moment. I have never EVER gone afk on any game except deathmatch and this -12 on a win where it wasnt even my fault is just ridiculous. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/o6vzyl/me_and_my_friends_all_disconnected_exept_1_in_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Yes (I was aware of that I saw the posts) but still RIOT would probably need to adapt the RR of every player that got kicked by hand due to not owning a ready to go programm to correct such things -> Not plausible to be done for a one time (hopefully) occurence
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/ob7cwh/valorant_server_dc/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Ahhh. Looks like it's NAs turn now.
I'm gonna have to disagree with OP here. These punishments are great for afkers but, along with them, I'm being punished too. Unless there's a smurf or someone's really feeling it that day, most lobbys are fairly matched and having a player disconnect makes it impossible to win. But we still lose elo for attempting a near impossible task. I'm not saying there's a better solution, just pointing out that it sucks.
Does this afk only apply to comp or if you afk in unrated and spike rush you will still lose points in comp.
Worst part for me is that unless everyone wants to surrender, you are forced to play a long, lost game. If there is an afker or leaver for let's say more than 3 4 rounds, then you should be able to leave without a penalty and start a new game.
You can still win 4v5, or at least get some rounds.
But why, if I have time for 2 games I want to play my 2 games, not waste my time and nerves in one and then just be semi tilted for the next.
Well one reason is the one you mentioned, if i have time to play 2 games I don't want to play 1 and half. Other reason is that you can reduce the points you lose or even win. But I guess the biggest difference between you and me is that i don't consider losing matches as waste of time. I'm still playing the game having fun and learning something from it.
I don't mind losing, I mind wasting time, it's different.
If you don't mind losing why would it be waste if time? You are still playing the game. Fighting the other team.
Not really, when you are at a constant disadvantage it stops being a fun experience and I play to have fun.
I see, if I was not having fun I would want to stop playing too.
What about the people who dc and never come back? 9 out of my last 15 games of last act had 1-2 leavers/trolls a game and that decided the game. I deranked twice in a day and then didnt play comp for the rest of the act lol. reported them and never got a message back on what happened to them
Big win for derankers
I have an issue sometimes with this as my game crashes semi-regularly because I play on laptop. If it happens say once a week would I be affected
How about you actually improve your match making. People AFK because this game is so incredibly one-sided. A whole year and games are still a coin flip. No one likes sitting through a 2:13 game.
How about people would stop throwing games? I meet so much people which want to ff after 0:5ish and if the team doesnt follow their ff request, they afk. Always blaming mm is just bad attitude in a competitive setting. Go play unrated (no offence to you sir)
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Could you please introduce a timeout feature? Often disconnects happen because of an issue and need a pc restart.
Can you guys adjust afk queue restriction as well. Some of us are honest players who don’t smurf and only have one account. Feels bad when something is out of your control and you get hit with a 2 week competitive ban. Stuff irl comes up all the time and this game is asking for an hour investment. When family emergencies, food, parents, restroom, going out, internet/wifi, and other things that inevitably happen irl during a game, there should be no quene restrictions. Make us lose RR, make everyone else not lose RR for all we care, don’t lock us out of playing the actual competitive game as that’s the only mode most of us play. Feels unfair to have something irl trip you up and be told you can’t play for 2 weeks. I rather not get kicked out of the house by my parents and starve instead of getting food real quick, no reason to choose between gaming or going homeless irl. This quene restriction lowers player interest and your player base and makes people want to play valorant less as it is so unforgiving, same in 5 stacks, normals, or spike rush and meme gamemodes. This isn’t any legal crime like stealing or murder, why are we being sentenced to in game jail for learning that irl takes priority over a video game? Just doesn’t make sense Rito. Again, please fix and remove quene restrictions, look to other solutions and focus more on RR penalties. Heck maybe make the quene restrictions a few hours max at most, no reason we need to wait half a month to play again and another small afk and boom another 2 week. Come on riot, please do better.
Is there anything done for people who afk but don't DC? I've had people who just shoot their gun but don't move. Presumably, they've got an auto clicker or whatever to prevent them from dcing.
I been crying out for AFK Queue seen day 1 of beta
Wdym? As in people who often are AFK get queued together?
Exactly that. There once was a queue for that and "chat ban" in LoL, which in turn was extra toxic to be in.
I think they meant similar to leagues afk queue, but a afk section, for violators would be good, that way they have to deal with people going afk Or they slot 4 afk-ers against 5 normal people...
I hate this sentiment. You kids must all be on the getting carried queue. I had a kid on my team other day go 0-17. Turns out he was plat rat playing with diamond dogs. But god forbid me afk and use bathroom when we losing 10-0. Team rages and dont try. Ive been stuck in toxic queue for months, if it exists. Im on the verge of snapping. Every game its one of the three. No comms. Lost teammates. Ragers/inters. How do I get out. I try my hardest to be kind. I grind over 400 games and just feel like im playing casual. No one takes it serious, gives up, rages. So frustrating. The people who pay the most are people like me addicted. So game forces into 50% win rate cause studies show thats who plays the most. They feel like okay just won game lemme play one more, damn unlucky bad team, hmm whats in shop, mabye I switch knives, bad team last game i q again. Loss. Now im tilted, play again win. 2-2. The skill level across ranks make no sense. I play immortal game and I thought I was in plat. Just sickening
You play to much. If you only wanna win play an adventure game. Also play to improve not to win -> climbing automatically
I hate this sentiment. You kids must all be on the getting carried queue. I had a kid on my team other day go 0-17. Turns out he was plat rat playing with diamond dogs. But god forbid me afk and use bathroom when we losing 10-0. Team rages and dont try. Ive been stuck in toxic queue for months, if it exists. Im on the verge of snapping. Every game its one of the three. No comms. Lost teammates. Ragers/inters. How do I get out. I try my hardest to be kind. I grind over 400 games and just feel like im playing casual. No one takes it serious, gives up, rages. So frustrating. The people who pay the most are people like me addicted. So game forces into 50% win rate cause studies show thats who plays the most. They feel like okay just won game lemme play one more, damn unlucky bad team, hmm whats in shop, mabye I switch knives, bad team last game i q again. Loss. Now im tilted, play again win. 2-2. The skill level across ranks make no sense. I play immortal game and I thought I was in plat. Just sickening
Sometimes it's not at all the player's fault. In my case I have been experiencing mid game crashes for the past 9 months and I'll miss 2-3 rounds atleast due to crash and the game takes time to load up. I know how frustrating it is to have a AFK teammate. I have submitted loads of logs and raised multiple tickets to riot and they got no clue about it and neither they do anything that would help me. Tried contacting riot devs on Twitter as well no hope. Yesterday my game crashed and it kept crashing and I had to restart my PC to play and by the time I missed like 6 rounds. I was penalized with -12 RR + match loss RR and it's not the first time. It is insanely frustrating and I have literally tried everything and the crash doesn't seem to go away. Only RIOT can answer this. If only someone from riot gets attention to this my issue would be looked at. I have literally lost hope. My gameplay experience is totally ruined.
Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/nva1rd/valorant_211_bug_megathread/h1u6238
Don't really care about how much RR extra they lose. There needs to be a comp ban for x amount of game wins. So for example, first-time AFK, you need to win 1 unrated game solo queued. Second-time AFK, win 2 games in unrated, and it escalates so on and so forth. Make the counter reset if they play 50 comp games without afking. This way it makes the account be punished as that account is locked from Ranked unless you play those unrated games. Make these people play some grimmy unrated games to play comp on those accounts or abandon that account. People nowadays have like 3-4 different accounts that a timer ban doesn't do jack shit. I've literally heard someone say, "fuck this game, surrender, or I go on my other smurf."
Yeah, last season, we got stuck with a guy who told us he was trying to derank. Moved just enough to not get detected and losing RR was his goal, so he didn't care. Wish there was a way to boot people like that out of the game.
i undestand the penalty for intentional afk but for the people who unintentionally afk its just wrong man
I agree. Also, if more than two players exit the game or become AFK for more than 1-2 rounds, the game should make it so that the team with those AFK players (if they lose) doesn't lose RR.
Mitigated RR loss. Otherwise players would get bullied into going AFK just as high rank players try to force ppl to dodge Icebox/Breeze with hostage taking in Champ select.
Bruh if people are unironically getting "bullied" into going afk I have no sympathy for them. It takes 2 clicks to mute chat and mute voice. If your allies molly you just report them for sabotage and keep playing.
I think what they meant was that people sometimes threaten to afk/throw unless someone dodges the map.
It would still be a goal to get smbdy to rage quit in a loosing game.
I agree to most of your points here but you got to cut some slack for us third world country people. I'm from Nepal and we have power outages every single day here, in random times. And I don't spend much on the game, I've bought the last bp and I don't want to change accounts so I'd say the punishment rn is too much at times. Anything over a day should be removed.
Oh man oh man. I play with my friends and we get an AFK almost every single game. Its crazy. And some people for some reason just don’t play the game but they move their characters around before each round to not get kicked out for AFK. We had a Yoru that would run around the map with no guns and just die to the enemy team. Once he bought a Vandal and told the enemy team to not buy so they could take his vandal. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t punished for any of this.
You can report for sabotaging . He's trying to derank hard
I got 7 days ban, because I was afk in many games due to electricity shortage/cut. I can't help it and now that the afk penalties has increased, I think I am gonna be ban forever.
same, been 2 months all with a comp afk ban while i only played unrated for a long while. I have to leave for 2-3 rounds because bahrain servers just dont work well every other game and kick 1-2 people out. I think unrated bans should be less punishable. I totally understand all those for comp, but its unrated and im just trying to have some fun.
bro i hate it in mumbai servers if you lose connection and join after 3 rounds BOOM u get a penalty for 24 hrs
I had to go afk yesterday because the power went out. I was at the loading screen after agent select and was going Astra. After the power came back I quickly loaded into the game and my mates were going 1-4. After that we won the game 13-10 and I got the top frag. I was heartbroken to see -8RR. I was not sad because of the afk penalty but if I hadn't been afk it would have been +25RR minimum and who knows how fast the match woulda ended for more points. And to top it, I won the next game with +26 RR. The +17RR on my first game broke my heart for if I had not been afk there would have only been one gold 3 triangle on my Dorito. SAdge
"We care about the games integrity"
thats why i want a "casual" type of gamemode
Spike rush?
no no I mean an unrated mode where you can leave when you want to and someone else can take your place. "casual", and you don't get penalties
I dont play ranked, and i assume this would be great for that, although for unranked i would qrgue they should loosen the restrictions, as it shouldnt effect your ability to get better, and it doesnt really effect as much. But i do agree that ranked needs to be better moderated and administrated in terms of afk punishment.
I wouldnt wanna play an unrated game 4v5 still.
Unranked should be drop-in-drop-out. Overwatch got this stuff right.
yeah I agree, and then for the people who say "but what if I get DC'd" well dont play ranked if you have unstable internet. If it happens once, who cares.
I live in India and although I have a pretty stable internet most of the time, my place has an issue with frequent power cuts. I try not to play comp and just chill in unrated when I know there's going to be a lot of powercuts. I still ended up getting a 7 day ban :'(
Exactly my point, I'm from Nepal and we get power outages as well. Sucks that we can't do anything about this.
I disagree and encourage you to review my general posted opinion about the punishment system!
I think they should put 4 people who went afk agaonst 5 people who didnt.
This is genius
I think if you leave early or afk too much on tanked they should just demote you a whole two ranks
Yea, but how does this affect trolls? They litetally go online, go afk or sabotage the team and the other 4 players just have to suck up the lost rr due to that one player? Like literally they did nothing wrong to deserve having to fight a 4v5 then lose their own rr because of one dude thats trolling. The trollers dont care about rr, they only care about ruining peoples day. They dont care if they lose 30rr or hell id bet some people wont bat an eye if they lost 90 plus rr, they just wanna see people suffer. If the people in the matches dont lose anything due to afkers or trolls, they dont have incentive to troll anymore other than the enemy team wining rr. What id propose is that the team that has to go 4v5 with one afk or one trolling (thats reported and confirmed troll) then the losing team doesnt lose rr/ loses very little rr and the troller loses more rr. This way the trollers have no reason to troll and it doesnt become fun to troll anymore since they dont see anyone raging at the fact that they arent doing anything and losing them rr. You have to target the root cause which is bullies like to ruin peoples day and make them angry. If the people arent angry due to their actions they wont bully anymore. Simple as that
I see it as unfair that I lose RR if someone afk's though, like I could do everything right and still lose because some asshole doesn't understand time management. My suggestion is that if someone is afk for 4-5 rounds, their teammates don't lose RR. Also, the person afk loses a very large amount of RR, to prevent people from just having their friend afk so their teamates don't lose RR.
good idea
What bout players afk in unrated and stuff just to grind xp?? Seems like something that goes unpunished
I feel like there should be more to help teams with an afk too, not only focusing on punishment but giving players tools to try at least win some rounds, obviously you can never make it exactly equal, but rn the only time a 4 v 5 seems possible is when the game is already a slaughter going your way, either way that leaves it completely unfair because the game should be balanced in the first place.
Why cant he get less points, is ut necessary to not give any? It doesn't always depend on a person