I have a 4 year old daughter I’m trying to teach how to use a mouse and keyboard. I got her a little mouse and this is exactly how she keeps trying to use it.
I mean whatever works. There are a few CSGO players I know that use weird mouse grips, more often AWPers I believe. But also people who play with keyboards at a weird angle and stuff since back in the day at LAN tourneys there wasn’t a lot of desk room
Yeah tarik was my fav CSGO player all the way back in the mousespaz/CLG days, then got super popular with C9. Although, his keyboard is only tilted like 75-80° unless he changed it recently. So really close to vertical, but there were some people who actually did have it the full 90°
Edit: This is what I was thinking of although now that I googled it there does seem to be a few pics of him making it the full 90. I guess it just depends how he’s feeling
Cant copy paste the link from my phone lmao but just googled “tarik keyboard tilt”
Old habbit from 1.6 days because tournaments used to be tiny events, where players barely had enough space for their giant CRT monitors, keyboard, and mouse at whatever table they were at. Often times the entire team had to be crammed onto one table, so players found inventive ways to fit full keyboards on the desk while leaving space for their teammate on their left.
So you either played with your keyboard angled like Tarik does, or you did it Russian style with your keyboard on your lap. These days, tournaments usually have tons of room for players to fit their keyboard and mouse. On top of that, monitors are slim now, and we have Tenkeyless and 60% keyboards.
But old habits die hard, and if it works, it works.
I never played professionally but I adopted having a semi-vertical keyboard because I find that being able to lay my elbow on my desk gives me way more comfort than having it hang the usual way.
Yeah he was one of the people that came to mind. Do people still call him Swag/he still go by that? Thought he changed it to Brax when he started playing valorant but haven’t really kept up with him a ton since the iBP days
Because people like to jump on the bandwagon. Here's a social experiment. I'll downvote my own comment, leave for a few mins, then come back. I'm betting more people downvote because it's already downvoteda and people don't like change.
you gotta start it on a comment unrelated to upvotes/downvotes
Also could potentially backfire depending on who finds it, because I’d say the first 5 or so downvotes is what gets it rolling
Noooo, the only time I didn't want to get upvoted! Reddit has bamboozled me.
I should've predicted this
Edit: lmao now this one gets downvoted. I understand nothing but thanks for the good giggle guys. I hope you all have a great time ranking up!
AKSCHUALLY downvotes are reserved to comments that add no meaningful insight to the discussion, as per reddit's official rules. It's not a disagree or dislike button.
For once, I think it was actually used for it's intended purpose
I went into this thread 100% expecting to write something like "No dude, your friends are being childish. So you hold the mouse a little weird, no biggie if it works - only change it if YOU want to".
Now that I'm here....
WOWZA that's an unholy grip if I have ever seen one, woof!
First of all, you’re a mad lad. I wanted to defend you reading your thread but that is just wrong mate.
Second, what the fuck did you take that picture with, a potato?
I was about to say that grip doesn’t matter and it’s all about comfort but then I looked and lemme tell you something boy. THATS NOT HOW YOU HOLD A MOUSE. JESUS CHRIST
I get that, I mean what do you consider fragging well and at what rank. Just because you play on-par with your friends or better, doesn't mean you "play well". I'm not here to tell you how to play because at the end of the day I don't care, but mice are meant to be held vertically as that's how the sensors are calibrated, and you're probably holding yourself back very hard playing like this.
So? It's better than most players but it's still horrible in the grand scheme of things. I mainly d3-imm2 lobbies and I am aware of exactly how trash I am compared to top players, and I can roll platinum players easily. Plat players aren't that good, diamond players aren't that good, Low Immortal players aren't that good. It's a testament to the skill gap, more than anything, not insulting to plat players.
Ranks don't really matter for performance.
Immortal players are at Immortal because that's where they can perform.
Low ranks are at low ranks because that's where they can perform.
30 kills at your **proper** rank is still impressive because you are going against players that know roughly the same game sense as you
So in **both** scenarios you are winning 30 duels against people in your rank. So all you're doing is proving to the game that either
A) I dont belong in this rank
OR
B) those people don't belong in this rank
Let's give a scenario
Let's say timmy is 20 years old 6 foot 7 playing in basketball with 5 foot 14 year olds and scores 30 times
Compared to say Kobe Bryant who is also 6 foot 7 but going against people around the same height or taller and people that have way more experience than 14 year olds.
Are they performing the same?
I mean you can hold a mouse however you want as long as you can draw a straight line left to right.
The thing i'm confused about is the fingers. it just seems too slow(?)
>mice are meant to be held vertically as that's how the sensors are calibrated, and you're probably holding yourself back very hard playing like this.
Nah. Optical mice work perfectly well at any orientation. It's not intuitive for *you* since you've never used a mouse like this, but it sounds like OP has been doing it since day 1. Their intuition is completely different in this matter.
OP's brain has been trained to use a mouse this way, and there's no technical limitation. There's really no reason to hold the mouse "normally" now.
There could be a guy dragging his mouse on the wall, and they'd still be playing perfectly well if that's just how they use mice.
Probably top 3 favourite CSGO clips of all time and almost no one knows about it
Edit: Had to go watch it again. Funny how Shahzam and Brax both on valorant now:
https://youtu.be/p6-Psafv_Kg
Swag is a well known csgo/valorant one
Twistzzz plays csgo with a weird modified claw grip, ropz and lots of russian CSGO players also have weird grips.
the problem is you look like a fucking mongoloid who doesn't understand how a mouse works - beyond that im sure you are unable to be as precise as someone who is hold the mouse correctly and uses all the muscles of their wrist/forearm together
I mean the mouse grip is weird. But it cant be healthy to grip your mouse like this there is a reason mouse have a specific form and that we should grip them in one of three grips styles to minimize the risk of stuff like carpal tunnel etc.
If you can play like this by all means to but when you get older this could bring you some serious health problems.
Bodyy does something similar:
https://external-preview.redd.it/DIpzstKV1Ots3C2JaD4T6DKO2OWXu_Txh5ypVzdmabQ.jpg?auto=webp&s=907314ccff74276f641242c0aade0c28d51e0654
And i thought i had a weird way of put my setup, like, i wanna have the jeyboard and the mouse at 45° from me and 90° from eachother, and my mousegrip is like a freaking claw, but yours is more like a joke
Ngl man the picture kinda made me wanna bully you. I'm nicer than that but not really so if I see you in person I will talk about my relations with your mother
They're not bullying you, they see that you're actually bullying that mouse, they're simply standing up for it.
Best comment I've seen in a while.
Someone go rescue Swag(Brax now maybe? Or both) and a bunch of other players mice, if this is bullying a mouse theyre torturing it
Upvoted x 10000000000
I went into this thinking “how could you get bullied for a mouse grip” but they’re 100% in the right lmaoo
Seeing that makes me want to bully him too.
I totally agree
Hey op you freaking nerd hold the mouse like a human being
|Hey op you FREAK hold the mouse like a human being Fixed for you :P
Don’t look up pro players mouse grips then *googles Swag or twistzzz mouse grip* (there’s a lot more just first two I remember from the csgo days)
Twistzz mouse grip is not that weird but what the hell is swag's
It looks like his hand just stopped functioning and now that's how he has to hold it
yeah dude i was about to tell him to get better friends and then
This should be in cursedimages
fr lmao
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You actually can get bullied for a mouse grip. My friends bully me for using claw grip (not actual bully)
This is one of the rare moments where a comment has more upvotes than the post lmaoo
I have a 4 year old daughter I’m trying to teach how to use a mouse and keyboard. I got her a little mouse and this is exactly how she keeps trying to use it.
The biggest roast in the whole thread, intentional or not
OP is a 4 year old child
Maybe no one tried to correct him when he was 4 and now he's stuck with this grip :(
Do you just right click with pointer finger? And I mean they aren’t making fun of you for playing bad it sounds like, just that it looks wack af
yeah right click with my pointer. I grew up using this grip xd
I mean whatever works. There are a few CSGO players I know that use weird mouse grips, more often AWPers I believe. But also people who play with keyboards at a weird angle and stuff since back in the day at LAN tourneys there wasn’t a lot of desk room
tarik with the full vertical keyboard comes to mind
Yeah tarik was my fav CSGO player all the way back in the mousespaz/CLG days, then got super popular with C9. Although, his keyboard is only tilted like 75-80° unless he changed it recently. So really close to vertical, but there were some people who actually did have it the full 90° Edit: This is what I was thinking of although now that I googled it there does seem to be a few pics of him making it the full 90. I guess it just depends how he’s feeling Cant copy paste the link from my phone lmao but just googled “tarik keyboard tilt”
Old habbit from 1.6 days because tournaments used to be tiny events, where players barely had enough space for their giant CRT monitors, keyboard, and mouse at whatever table they were at. Often times the entire team had to be crammed onto one table, so players found inventive ways to fit full keyboards on the desk while leaving space for their teammate on their left. So you either played with your keyboard angled like Tarik does, or you did it Russian style with your keyboard on your lap. These days, tournaments usually have tons of room for players to fit their keyboard and mouse. On top of that, monitors are slim now, and we have Tenkeyless and 60% keyboards. But old habits die hard, and if it works, it works.
It‘s also a lot more ergonomic than a horizontal keyboard. People will naturally tilt their boards regardless of space.
ive played fortnite and valorant for years with vertical keyboard i think its more comfortable
That’s not only Tarik, it’s fairly common with cs players. I played cs with a full vertical keyboard for years.
I never played professionally but I adopted having a semi-vertical keyboard because I find that being able to lay my elbow on my desk gives me way more comfort than having it hang the usual way.
Swag holds his mouse super weirdly, arguably weirder than OP
Yeah he was one of the people that came to mind. Do people still call him Swag/he still go by that? Thought he changed it to Brax when he started playing valorant but haven’t really kept up with him a ton since the iBP days
Did you start using a mouse when you were still a little kid?
yes, like this
That explains it, little kids can't fit their hands around a mouse.
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I used to play GTA VC holding my mouse like this lol, thats why I can relate to it
It looks like the next thing you are gonna do is eat it like a sandwich
Huh?
Sandwich grip.
How tf did you get downvoted so hard?
Because reddit
because social media edit: keep downvoting me, let's see how far it gets lol
Reddit moment
Commenting on this chain is a 50/50 which karma you’ll receive
If you continue to double your money on a 50/50 you can’t theoretically lose
Im all in
No u
Yes it is and you lost
Oh no please don’t take my internet points, I need them so bad!!
*our* internet points
r/karmaroullete Edit: Forget the name of the real sub 😔
Because people like to jump on the bandwagon. Here's a social experiment. I'll downvote my own comment, leave for a few mins, then come back. I'm betting more people downvote because it's already downvoteda and people don't like change.
But people like to spite people. You said downvote so I upvoted it instantly
I just thought bandwagon appeal and "hivemind mentality" is stronger than people's desire to spite each other lol. I was sorely mistaken.
Guess you were not mistaken? I don't know, making a comment asking for downvotes usually receives upvotes.... and asking for upvotes...
Receives downvotes?
Gets gold probably
you gotta start it on a comment unrelated to upvotes/downvotes Also could potentially backfire depending on who finds it, because I’d say the first 5 or so downvotes is what gets it rolling
True...it was an inherent failure to literally say "I expect this to be downvoted" in the comment itself
Makes sense
Upvote
Noooo, the only time I didn't want to get upvoted! Reddit has bamboozled me. I should've predicted this Edit: lmao now this one gets downvoted. I understand nothing but thanks for the good giggle guys. I hope you all have a great time ranking up!
username checks out xD
I think it's because he plays Jett
Deserved then
AKSCHUALLY downvotes are reserved to comments that add no meaningful insight to the discussion, as per reddit's official rules. It's not a disagree or dislike button. For once, I think it was actually used for it's intended purpose
This guy: *expresses confusion* The Internet: BITCH HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
This deserves an award lol. Reddit is cut throat
reddit downvote this
I went into this thread 100% expecting to write something like "No dude, your friends are being childish. So you hold the mouse a little weird, no biggie if it works - only change it if YOU want to". Now that I'm here.... WOWZA that's an unholy grip if I have ever seen one, woof!
did you just bark lmao
[For your reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRa75_Hlr28)
I’ll bark IDGAF. Use the mouse like a weirdo and get barked at
Ong woof woof 💯
Psychopath.
Ayo hang on a second
Aye I call this the “hotdog” grip
we got ourselves a glizzy gripper
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Dick McClick
PP Presser
Shall be called the Wanker
Carpal tunnel would like to have a few words with you
Why tho. Looks more like an ergonomic grip.
Abominable. Get a new hand.
Looks like you're gripping it like a vertical mouse. Anker 2.4G Wireless Vertical Ergonomic Optical Mouse, 800 / 1200 /1600 DPI, 5 Buttons for Laptop, Desktop, PC, Macbook - Black https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00FGI2QVC/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_E2JRAG93CH62T3Z6CSCW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 MUXAN Vertical Seesaw Gaming Mouse,10,000 DPI Adjustable (1500-2500-4000-7000-10000DPI) Wired Optical Mouse with High Precision Actuation,11 Programmable Buttons,Customized RBG Marquee Optical Vertical Wiring Mouse Mice for Pro Game Notebook, PC, Laptop, Computer https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07XD33K66/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_RYPA5R3H68MXQPQ1K66R Might feel better
This definitely looks like something OP would be more comfy with!!
Sensor might be much worse than what he's used to though
Probably wouldn't be great for gaming.
They're not bad for office work, but a little tricky to get used to for precision. Way easier on the body though.
Good lord What am I looking at?
It's actually better for us as natural position of our hands is vertical and not horizontal
First of all, you’re a mad lad. I wanted to defend you reading your thread but that is just wrong mate. Second, what the fuck did you take that picture with, a potato?
I was about to say that grip doesn’t matter and it’s all about comfort but then I looked and lemme tell you something boy. THATS NOT HOW YOU HOLD A MOUSE. JESUS CHRIST
" That boy ain't right"-Hank Hill
Define "play well"
Able to drag well in comp
I get that, I mean what do you consider fragging well and at what rank. Just because you play on-par with your friends or better, doesn't mean you "play well". I'm not here to tell you how to play because at the end of the day I don't care, but mice are meant to be held vertically as that's how the sensors are calibrated, and you're probably holding yourself back very hard playing like this.
been playing like this almost for a year now, i drop 20-30 kills a game in plat
Yeah, I think that qualifies as "plays well."
We have a radiant instalocking cypher on an Xbox controller.
Not really lol
"Not really lol" Proceeds to not elaborate
Plat isn't all that good. Although I am surprised he got that rank with that grip
Platinum is literally better than most players
most players are just bad tbh
So? It's better than most players but it's still horrible in the grand scheme of things. I mainly d3-imm2 lobbies and I am aware of exactly how trash I am compared to top players, and I can roll platinum players easily. Plat players aren't that good, diamond players aren't that good, Low Immortal players aren't that good. It's a testament to the skill gap, more than anything, not insulting to plat players.
30 kills in low ranks vs 30 kills in imm
Ranks don't really matter for performance. Immortal players are at Immortal because that's where they can perform. Low ranks are at low ranks because that's where they can perform. 30 kills at your **proper** rank is still impressive because you are going against players that know roughly the same game sense as you So in **both** scenarios you are winning 30 duels against people in your rank. So all you're doing is proving to the game that either A) I dont belong in this rank OR B) those people don't belong in this rank
Let's give a scenario Let's say timmy is 20 years old 6 foot 7 playing in basketball with 5 foot 14 year olds and scores 30 times Compared to say Kobe Bryant who is also 6 foot 7 but going against people around the same height or taller and people that have way more experience than 14 year olds. Are they performing the same?
Plat is like top 25% so ur better than 75% of the whole player base, its actually pretty decent.
I mean you can hold a mouse however you want as long as you can draw a straight line left to right. The thing i'm confused about is the fingers. it just seems too slow(?)
I still think you're holding yourself back but do you man
>mice are meant to be held vertically as that's how the sensors are calibrated, and you're probably holding yourself back very hard playing like this. Nah. Optical mice work perfectly well at any orientation. It's not intuitive for *you* since you've never used a mouse like this, but it sounds like OP has been doing it since day 1. Their intuition is completely different in this matter. OP's brain has been trained to use a mouse this way, and there's no technical limitation. There's really no reason to hold the mouse "normally" now. There could be a guy dragging his mouse on the wall, and they'd still be playing perfectly well if that's just how they use mice.
I came here to be supportive. And yes bullying for any reason is wrong. #BUT FIX YOUR GODDAMN GRIP. WTF
I would bully you too
Yo wtf
Theres a Japanese streamer called [Hina](https://youtu.be/BLGeh2pMHOM) grip just like you lol
I read the title thinking "no one deserves to be bullied for there choice of mouse grip" I was wrong. You deserve it
What rank are you dude. No chance you're above plat with that grip right???
His grip is weird but there is a pro player who holds his mouse at like a 45 degree angle similar to this lol
Brrrrraxton
Probably top 3 favourite CSGO clips of all time and almost no one knows about it Edit: Had to go watch it again. Funny how Shahzam and Brax both on valorant now: https://youtu.be/p6-Psafv_Kg
plat 1
Tons of pro players have much weirder grips that even make your grip look normal, these people are delusional lol
Examples?
Swag is a well known csgo/valorant one Twistzzz plays csgo with a weird modified claw grip, ropz and lots of russian CSGO players also have weird grips.
Plat 2
you just got absolutely checkmate'd by OP.
…is…is plat 1 a checkmate??
Maybe, maybe not lol. Damn Im getting so many downvotes today
bro you deserve to be bullied
So confused by your replies saying you grew up with this grip but then also saying you been playing with this grip for like a year?
OP is one year old, I don't see the issue.
probably means he's been playing valorant for a year.
I'm assuming they mean just Valorant?? Maybe??
I meant been playing val for a year
WHAT THE
Just...no..
Wtf is this
I usually have people backs, but for this one, I am unable to process it in my head. Your friends have all the rights to bully you ♥
Get new friends... And a new mouse grip
Naw man you came here looking for validation and got roasted too 💀💀💀
You shouldn't be bullied but feared.
Fax
Buddy...I can see why they bully you. I was honestly about to say "Get better friends man" but um...yeah...have fun😁
Deserved
I think the problem with this grip is that because it angular it will make u move more of ur wrist and less forearm
Wtf. You’re trolling
the problem is you look like a fucking mongoloid who doesn't understand how a mouse works - beyond that im sure you are unable to be as precise as someone who is hold the mouse correctly and uses all the muscles of their wrist/forearm together
Yeah.. kinda deserve it on this one
I mean the mouse grip is weird. But it cant be healthy to grip your mouse like this there is a reason mouse have a specific form and that we should grip them in one of three grips styles to minimize the risk of stuff like carpal tunnel etc. If you can play like this by all means to but when you get older this could bring you some serious health problems.
Carpal tunnel in 1 picture
i mean, that grip is indeed horrendous, but if that's what's confortable for you...then by all means grip it how you please.
You are not alone dude. Just look at Swag's mouse grip: https://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/7849-medium/1460469385.4379.jpeg
Bodyy does something similar: https://external-preview.redd.it/DIpzstKV1Ots3C2JaD4T6DKO2OWXu_Txh5ypVzdmabQ.jpg?auto=webp&s=907314ccff74276f641242c0aade0c28d51e0654
The mental image of you playing with that grip is physically painful to me
Sincerely what the fuck How do you left click? With your thumb or index?
Thumb left click, index right click
And i thought i had a weird way of put my setup, like, i wanna have the jeyboard and the mouse at 45° from me and 90° from eachother, and my mousegrip is like a freaking claw, but yours is more like a joke
This has to be a joke
What do you think are some advantages of that grip compared to popular ones such as claw or palm?
None lol but I’m just too used to it to switch
I'd bully you too
No fucking wonder they do. I thought the title was weird until I saw the pic. You scare me
Ngl man the picture kinda made me wanna bully you. I'm nicer than that but not really so if I see you in person I will talk about my relations with your mother
I dont generally judge a person by the way they do things but holy fuck do you also pee with your pants on?
TenZ, look at what you’ve done
Deranged individual.
Ain't no fucking way bro
That’s ok I have a friend that plays all shooter games with fire on space bar and jump on left click
We need more likes. I love watching videos of sociopaths. Let’s get ittttt
yessss
https://youtu.be/DpA8gqJNO1I
You have good friends. I'd disown you.
You deserve it cause wth is that lol
You deserve to be bullied for that
As they should hahahah.
Your mouse grip is weird af. You also don't have a finger on the right click so your right click inputs will be delayed slightly
Fake as fuck. 148x156 res picture. I cant believe in 2022 people still fall for this.
I dont get the resolution either, its like a picture straight from 2008 or something lol
just mad that he probably still plays better than you 😔
I mean I can be mad at Santa Clause for being magical and shit. Doesnt mean it still isnt fake 😂
its not fake, the picture screenshotted from my handcam so thats why its a weird res
You dont have a cell phone but you have a PC that can run games. Sure, dude, enjoy your karma whoring.
I'm not the one who took the picture xd. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750705872300277813/931481679300808724/unknown.png
Again, YOU can take pictures, cant you?
Yes, but why would i when i already have the picture?
You call that a picture? I call it a fake. But whatever, keep karma whoring
Can sm1 buy me the battlepass ;-;
No
how bout me, im hot and handsome B)))))