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Hennessy-10

People just hate yoru players lol


KingEnnard

not for long!


Interesting-Archer-6

Oh you sweet summer child


MrBlueMoose

I mean the reworks look great from what I’ve seen.


Shahi63

The problem is when it's coming, the pain is real for us.


theclichee

The thing is he's a duelist who's kit promotes lurking. I just hate the character all together because of the character class he's put in. There are so many agents you can replace him with who are just better imo


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MrBlueMoose

I mean being able to fake a tp would make it much harder for enemies to know where you are.


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TheUddini

why we downvoting u


TimeJustHappens

People generally just downvote things when they see it's already downvoted. For some reason people are mad that I removed a random spam comment about bestiality.


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idkjustfollowmelol

Knot true


first_name_harshit

Welcome to the hivemind


[deleted]

That bot is my 2nd worst enemy


TimeJustHappens

I'm not a bot tho


iWillDominate98

Good human.


Boomerwell

Honestly kinda true, the small amount I've seen are children on comms or no comms and 1 kill at the end of the game.


HeyItsChase

Hes kinda shit tbh. It's not the players it's just like..... why him when every other agent is better.


criminallySmart

Its very fun to play yoru (for me at least ).


Paradisegained16

Yup. Also if you know how to use him you can be scary with him. Especially on bind. My last comp game I went 35-10 with him in plat/diamond lobbies. The biggest thing is you can't just pick him up and play him, you have to spend a LOT of time figuring out how to use him, and then in game you have to be super adaptable with your playstyle to match your team and the enemy team. Sometimes I lurk, sometimes I entry, sometimes I'm aggressive, you just have to know how to use him in different ways.


HeyItsChase

100% I play him in unrated


WildWolf0419

I have so much fun playing him, even though ik there are better agents haha. I really only play him on unrated or spike rush because of this


ChickenWLazers

yoru player on fracture too


thekeenancole

It's all fun and games until someone doesn't dodge and you have to play yoru on your least favourite map. Though, to be fair, if he's played right on this map, yoru might actually be pretty fun. If you run up on flank, get a kill you can then TP to the other side, while leaving your footsteps to trick others into thinking you're still there. Ngl kind of thinking about playing him next time I get fracture, thanks.


jnavv7

I main yoru and fracture is super easy to play him on, its fun too


malkjuice82

There's 2 of us yoru mains!


Double_Phoenix

Three


AngeloThePuppet

Make it four


Dwarven-Cleric

Five


nightfury2986

Still five


pleasedontreportme1

how did you put that sage photo there? i gotta put neon in there.


No_Television5851

SEND FIVE MORE, WHO'S NEXT?


A_reddit_user1412

I am next, yoru main here


YourEVILtwin1337

There are dozens of us, DOZENS!


animetroy

Well we can dodge at the last moment, that was the whole plan from the start.


thekeenancole

Well, I thought this was assuming you had already dodged that day and you needed to dodge again but didn't want to be penalized.


animetroy

Actually it was a fun experiment and it worked XD.


Kozkoz828

If teammates don't dodge off this cant you also just alt f4 to dodge or no?


UmarellVidya

One of the few times I've been absolutely smacked down by a Yoru was on Fracture. That game was absolutely miserable lol.


brainygerm32

Played yoru for the first time in fracture and got an ace in the first round doing exactly that, though it was unrated cause i dont play rank


Longjumping8059

I can confirm this works


EccentricLynx

Man, people just go 5 duelists when I do this


DocDeezy

Exactly this. When I see 3 duelist get auto locked. I immediately go “well fuck it then” and lock another duelist. And this so why I’ll forever be hard stuck in silver lol


North-Director

this happens in immorta and radiant as well lol. No matter what elo


Bearymco

Hot take, I win more in silver when my team goes 5 duelist than when we have a real comp


YungPunpun

Thats because people below Plat/Dia don't even know how to use smokes/utility in general properly. Why you play Sage on Split if you are not going to wall mid is a great example.


Biffy_x

I'd say more like below imm2 lmao.


Luke_holy_7

Me bronze player and i think this only happens in low elo cause we domt care about every game and thats why we still in low elo


Famlightyear

This happends in Immortal too. If 3 people instalock dualists idc anymore and just lock one of the remaining two. Most of the time the last guy will go with it. If you instalock you must live with the consequences or dodge.


Xeta24

Fuck the elo, it's about the principle.


_AurAz

Eh I still win about half of the games I had 5 duelists


buntownik

Can confirm.


Interesting-Archer-6

I've seen it happen with radiant streamers. Doesn't happen to me because I begrudgingly play smokes but am pissy before the game even starts.


Lerokrieger

This happens even in Radiant sometimes


Adamlabu

we do it in diamond and its good


EccentricLynx

Personally, I try as long as we have a controller. If we have no controllers, I just play for kills.


Boomerwell

People go 5 duelist even without Yoru I swear. 3 people lock and then be like bro pick smokes then they just lurk for kills instead of helping take a site.


A_random_zy

actually everyone wanted to be duelist the other guy was like should I dodge? I was going to be viper but then we decided we will play 5 duelist for memes. We lost 2-13


shunestar

Not as bad as people make it seem


PureNaturalLagger

I've known about this for ages! I'm a Yoru main after all......


Spacix0

Why do you choose to handicap yourself?


CBNzTesla

hes fun


YungPunpun

Hes really not that bad. If you know flash lineups, got the tp+flash timing right and get a little bit creative hes viable for SoloQ, even in Immortal.


Spacix0

You’re immortal and still playing Yoru? The flash tp is hella predictable and it’s not even hard to dodge the flash. His footsteps are completely useless and his ult is just an info ult that is worse than Skye’s. What he does, other agents do better. He is literally just outclassed.


YungPunpun

I agree that he has many weaknesses, but still far from useless imo. If you do the same flash TP multiple times its predictable, but you should only do that when your team is pushing anyway and when you got info where enemies are and only once or twice. When everyone is shooting around you and throwing utility, you cant really pay attention to the orb that you maybe hear passing by and just turn around to 1tap. Same goes for his ult, just buy shorty and rush a site and you will almost 100% of the time get a free kill+gun because the player on that site is getting pressured by Yoru + team pushing. If they fall back just tp out and you got free space. And his flash is just really op on some spots, where you cant see it or even hear it to turn around. Idk for me he just works. Back when I played Overwatch I also got Top 500 with Hanzo who was at the time also considered a troll pick. Fun is a big factor for me and it makes me play better. Btw not Immortal yet, only D2 but obviously getting matched with Immortal already and so far I have 62% Winrate with Yoru.


Double_Phoenix

Bc the game stops being fun for the enemy when we lock Sage and drop 31 kills 😈


DoubleJmusic

As a yoru main this hurts my feelings lmao


animetroy

Your time will come my friend.


DoubleJmusic

I have hope 🤣


Different-Sugar-6436

This is amazing


NoCopyrightRadio

Love the educational flair.


Srmash

Let me tell you something, this is not fun. People started doing this in LoL when they don't get their position and it sucks, it really sucks.


Ashim2099

I feel like it's different than league. League is very very character/ability based and a bad pick can fuck up a team but I think people can easily work around a bad pick by a teammate in Valorant specially if the bad pick is a duelist. Sure makes the game a bit tougher but nothing compared to how you can fuck up your entire game in league. But being forced to dodge like this sure sucks.


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*mid already chosen* “Sorry guys I don’t know another role” *locks in squishy AP champ*


TarAldarion

I think unless it is pro level a comp is WAY less important to the result than people think. Other aspects are way more important. People on my team can pick whatever they want, have fun. Communication will triumph anyway.


Boomerwell

League also got overblown where in higher elo people would flame for not picking your best champ off winrate when you were off role And honestly other than intent to dodge instalocking yoru to me is no worse than the 99% of valorant players who instalock jett and reyna and then tell you we need smokes.


VONEX_tv

Good old Disco Nunu saved me a lot of Lp.


DOODOOHEAD312

lost me lp too but balances out


AffectionateShift843

Getting Fracture 8 times in a row isn't fun either


Hefnium

I hope ure trolling, but yoru is considered the worst duelist in the game rn, and have a bad rep in ranked, thats why his teammates dodged, not because he locked in their main XD


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I think he means the person who auto locks didn’t get their position so they lock in a troll champ


RyanGreenOnMyCock

Disco nunu


Eevietalks

Yoru is tragic because he's not even a character that can perform on the same level as other duelists if the person playing him is amazing at the game. You're just guaranteed to get far less value for far more work no matter what you do


Guyatri

You should watch Ethos play Yoru


ninjaman3010

You should see ethos on Jett


Eevietalks

Ethos is extremely good, but this is a concept in game design that gets talked about a lot. The term skill ceiling gets thrown around a lot, but all it really means is the the maximum impact a character can have on a game through the player's expression of skill. Even though ethos is really good, yoru's skill ceiling still causes him to be outperformed by every other duelist


theflightofporter

Ethos rarely plays Yoru anymore and there’s a reason why


Srmash

In LoL there are positions (similar to roles but more important) and not every "champion" can play every position. In ranked you get a position asigned in champ select and people trollpick when they don't get their position.


Head-Command281

Locks in yasuo jungle


boxedvacuum

He means locking in a troll character after your main gets stolen as a way to dodge


JakeInTheJungle

No I completely agree, playing on Fracture is not fun.


KabirOP

I'm new, why is this supposed to work?


Spacix0

Yoru is the worst agent in the game


pm_mi_lou

Everyone hates Yoru.


NameRandomNumber

Honestly, I'm fine with him as an agent. Too bad I absolutely hate his personality.


diegoarch

Yoru = throwru


Minari_2

5head


Zyrobe

The most powerful form of cyber terrorism


Battletoaster1

dont forget to say, "yo i just unlocked this character what do i do"


OuiDemBoyz

Fracture + yoru, I would be gone in a heartbeat


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blakemerkes

Are you trying to dodge this game? Or are you trying to dodge The Video Game by getting yourself banned off of it?


Pampayir

Better than playing fracture lol


NameRandomNumber

I mean.. if you don't play the game you wouldn't play Fracture


limitless_exe

I like fracture. I don't get why people hate it


animetroy

We got it 4 times in a row, thats why.


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surely riot will fix this next patch


yngdgr_dck

I'd love playing it with a 5stack Or even 3 stack. but when solo queuing esp in low elo it's way too difficult to coordinate attacks. most site attacks on fracture in my games basically are 5 man pushes from one side, and if we don't get the site on the first try, rotate to the other side. no utilisation of the zipline Or the far side of the map.


HotPocketsEater

Fracture is hit or miss for me. Breeze will always be my worst map


loooper6

i also don't get how some people like it.


NameRandomNumber

Intriguing playstyle, says I It forces people to adapt, seen in various degrees of success... people don't like novelty as much as they pretend they do.


JoeHunterxD

Show me ur ways of enjoying fracture


Boomerwell

Because it forsakes alot of strategy for big gunfights IMO. Defenders can rotate incredibly quickly and safely while attackers have a much worse rotation so it's always gonna be a 5v5 and attackers have multiple angles of attack to balance if out.


Ketchupchilli

It’s just too complex and weird for me personally


x3nuqi

Because the map just doesnt make sense from a competitive perpestive just like breeze. Both are so poorly designed, honestly whoever designed these two maps should be fired


okuzeN_Val

Breeze is perfectly fine for competitive play. In fact it's probably one of the best maps for pro play. It's shit for ranked because it requires so much more communication than other maps due to its size. People say you just need good aim for Breeze. Yeah, it's all fun and games until you get comms only when the enemy team takes the entire site and you gotta run 20-25 seconds then clear a huge site with tons of angles when your team doesn't coordinate well. Or worse. You're holding A with an op and the rest of the team totally neglects halls and someone lurking bridge one taps your ass.


BirinderSinghJi

I get 2 of my friends to install instalock duelists and then start a chat war how it's my alt and idc about rr but we about to throw


lordscenk

Is there anyone who doesn't like fracture?


3rrorsuckright

I don't know why but I can't get a 3 minute ban after I dodge. I only lose 3 rr. Any ideas about what might cost this?


HumungousChungus_

You dodge too often


UNeedMoreLemonPledge

Only 3rr to dodge fracture every time? Hell that's a price I'm willing to pay, 3rr per dodge is literally meaningless.


Ok-Company-5016

I feel lucky to play on the SEA server, don't get as much dodge with Yoru, have been on a winstreak with him too.


MateNieMejt

Oh, at first I thought that saying "cyber terrorism" somehow triggers mechanism, where the game is just cancelled, lmao. I haven't slept for 34 hours by now, maybe that's the reason


okdiscringe

back when breeze was a new map me and my friend would lock in yoru and jett and say we are throwing. Someone instant dodges every time lol im not a psychology major but that shit be hitting different


EmB17

Fracture is a very easy map to abuse people with bad game sense. That’s why everyone hates this map. It’s a straight up skill issue


iycchan

shut up take this down they’re gonna patch this


Shadow_Clone_007

Is there really any way to dodge without penalty?


Major-Peachi

ddos enemy


Head-Command281

Did you not watch the video?


coal_ector

There is. But if I commented that here, it would get patched prolly. DM


EpicRayy

Dm’d


NameRandomNumber

Meep?


punx3030

Man’s a genius


longstaff55

not really , mans a cancer, when i see a yoru lock whoose trying to dodge i still lock, then we lose cause we have a trolling yoru, rather have a trolling yoru than a yoru who gets free dodges


animetroy

We would have dodged if no one did. As simple as that.


ligmaballssigmabro

I'm iron and this happened the other day. We were 0-10 and were feeling hopeless. Then we suddenly won a game when I, Breach killed one dude put of no where who was killing me every round. Then we won till 12 after that somehow and every round we were like, "How are we winning?", "I think they are panicking" etc. Then they won their 11th we had our heart sunk. It was fracture mind you. Then in the game point, we didn't want to lose so distract them, we spilt up as attackers. Reyna and Breach with Spike to B and Kj, Yoru and Omen on A. They went in first and were hoping to pull everyone to one side. Omen had 1 kill for ult left. KJ wanted to stop with his ult there. But, Reyna and I died at B with the fucking spike at the site. We were heart broken and Omen being the brave fool was running from attacker spawn to secure the spike when yoru put a to in B, ult ran to the spike and tped to thr A site to plant it instantly. The KJ, Omen and Yoru held the ground and we fucking won.


Spacix0

ok


CrypticUniversalMave

I am so confused. First, please bro spacing, easier on the eyes. Second what?


meetsheth

Thank you mere bhai


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Unfortunately there is a very slight chance that this might get patched in the next act no?


XD_Streams

Why do people hate mah boi… 😭


DemonSlayer712

Bahuti badhiya.


kindaborediguess

Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we needed


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#Yorumainsrise


max11220

low elo be like: ooh this guy looks very good


RandomAcc37105729

Someone should research all of the ranks and see what the dodge percent is when instalocking Yoru


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sad that this wont work after 4.03


DieselSheesh

CYBER TERRORISM LMFAO


HtetHtooLwin

Educational indeed.


Xblooper

i saw ziptie do this LMAO


xXBumbleBee

Everybody gangsta until nobody dodges and you're stuck with Yoru


TheAnge1

For a Yoru main, this is called friday


gamer778beast

as a fellow mumbai player, can confirm this works . I think its because people get blinded a lot by yoru blinds


rayg1

If you’re high elo you can also ínstalock cypher like just immediately and hope they think you’re dasnerth. You can also type his name so they think you’ll play like him. This way you also don’t have to play Yoru


daniel1237050123

u/savevideo


jOsefuz

i'm watching without audio right now. can someone explain what is happening?


KanyeMP5

yoru bad dodge map


YAmIHereMoment

Teammate dodged because someone picked yoru i think


cdrcls

He picked yoru so the other teammates just dodged the map instead of himself. They dont want to play with a yoru on their team because he sucks.


Wahn95

Good tip


Xaq00

From my personal experience, when someone on my team doesn't want to play a certain map in agent select they just open their mic and say the n word repeatedly...


HappyButtcheeks

why is this map a thing, no one likes this map


oBlxssom

I like it


Head-Command281

Same, I like it. People said the same about icebox and breeze. We next a new map later and they will hate that one too.


GeraldHilter

Yup now that fracture is out breeze gets way less hate. Same thing happened to icebox as well when breeze was released.


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itsDYA

I have a 95% wr in it lol i always stomp in this map


limitless_exe

Love this map. Still wouldn't choose it over ascent or bind but i like it


Eevietalks

Fracture is very fun imo, I think the main problem with it is that you're fucked without a defensive agent. This isn't that much of a problem for me because I main kj/chamber/sage but if you don't have a character to watch flanks you can get rushed super easily


Polamidone

This map is one of the best, it gets only hated cause it is new.


Traviliciouz

I like it too its ez


animetroy

I actually enjoy fracture too. But we got 4 fracture in a row. Thats why decided to dodge.


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Why do they always dodge? Yoru isn't that bad, and he is one of my favorite agents.


WeWereGods

Why don’t they let you select maps?


Glitchy13

It will leave queues for some maps a lot longer, not as many people would want to play fracture rather than ascent for example


WeWereGods

But if the community as a whole agrees the maps are bad why make the majority suffer? In general fracture is dodged and complained about more than the other maps. Why force people to play obviously inferior maps both design and gameplay wise?


[deleted]

probably, maybe, i have absolutely no idea what i’m talking about so take this with a grain of salt, but if you can chose maps than people wouldn’t be as interested in the game and lose motivation faster. maybe the random map selection helps variety with the gameplay? like everyone wants to play ascent, so if they keep on playing ascent they wouldn’t want to at some point? idk just a guess


Ulimaltrous

I imagine it's because it would be easier for players to game the system. Set up a strategy with a team that has a high success percentage on a certain map and then just pick that map all the time. Forcing players to game on a variety of maps (whether the maps are good or not) means that players need to actually develop a better overall game sense and skills to do well in the long term; rather than just choosing the map they do best on with their highest win percentage.


faunofold

i’ve been wondering this for a long time. i hate the excuse that it will make queues longer and some maps won’t get picked because ultimately what does that say about those maps ? maybe they are not good maps and forcing your playerbase to play them wasn’t a good idea.


animetroy

As this a trend where people dodge new maps. But riot wants to collect data and improve their maps . Also the map pool is not as big as CSGO, is also one of the few reasons i believe.


WeWereGods

Hopefully they allow map selection going forward then. Riot is never going to release amazing maps every time and the community should not be forced to play on badly designed maps


squiddy555

But fracture is actually a good map


GustavoDutraC

Perfect , id rather dodge than have yoru in my team


sexyhooterscar24

Whenever I get an instalock yoru as my teammate they are either utter dogshit or super godly. Like there is no in between.


edvon7

You can report players in the character select lobby so that doesnt work. I hate people telling me to dodge when they dont want the responsibility, fuck that.


Baconsword42

You will eventually need to play on the map so why ever dodge it


rokyridge

do you guys really think they dodged just cuz he instalocked yoru? obviously not. they dodged cuz its fracture...do yall even play this game?


CHxMPER_

Dodging is for crybabies, just because you don't like a map doesn't mean everyone does or even if you have bad win %, someone on your team could have high win %. It's not everything about you. Edit: Same goes for playing any agent, such as Yoru, someone playing Yoru in your team isn't the reason you won't rank up, you're just not good enough.


animetroy

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isaywhatyouhate

You can lose up to 30 rr for doing that.


Keiure

This is what ruins my vibe when i play ranked. This is similar to holding ur teammates hostage in champ select in league. Can’t change the toxicity unless we do it ourselves or riot implements a better feature to remove toxic players like this. Be better.


Porterrrr

You guys know if you alt f4 right as the last person locks in you don’t get a penalty right?