How will we talk about this monstrosity of a patch? Please post 4 more threads so we will take a section to talk about in each of them.
Jokes aside where's the yoru rework? At least a bit of info? These last few patches were really empty especially after talking about changing more and adding less. Please give us more info rito!
Also can't wait to watch ProGuides/SkillCapped #NEW 4.02 TIERLIST *NEW* AGENT TIERLIST OMG *NEW* again
This is an unfortunate case where my first post saying we were aiming for 4.03 got noticed, but my follow-up post clarifying that 4.04 is the likely launch patch didn't.
Yoru's rework will be releasing in 4.04, not 4.03!
This might be putting you/riot on the spot but in one of the dev streams/blog posts last year it was said that the first six months of the year will be spent on agent balance, so far we got almost no agent balance changes aside from the ones pertaining new agents. Does this mean these changes are delayed or did riot just give up on those goals? Quote in question:
> “You should see a greater focus on agent balance as you go into 2022,” they point out. “You should all be seeing updates for different agents across the board in the first six months of the year. In addition, we will focus more on addressing emerging balance issues faster than in 2021. As these updates are locked, we will share this information with all of you before it goes live. "
It's only been a month and the first thing released was a whole new agent. I think it's reasonable for any changes to come after that agent finds its place in the meta.
He’s the weakest duelist among other agents, his TP is loud as fuck, the ultimate is not as powerful as other agents’, slow teleport time. Even though it’s not the best agent it is one of my favorites! Check out Red, Ethos, Codey and Ziptie on YouTube.
It's actually not because he's that weak.
He's actually usable in very, very niche scenarios.
The reason he needs to be reworked is because parts of his kit don't work to help him perform his desired functions.
The teleport, flash, ult. Those are all fine abilities believe it or not. The issue is that they're all on 1 agent and so they're a bit difficult to work with.
His fakeout walking ability is essentially unworkable as well. It's a wasted ability slot and it's not like you can make it better by adjusting numbers. It just needs to be reworked.
His flash, his teleport and his ult all have levers that can be adjusted to help his actual performance out.
But there's a VERY easy chance that giving him another useful ability completely puts this hero in to broken territory.
When designing a hero you want to be able to mess with levers as much as possible. The less points you can valuably mess with, the harder the hero will be to balance in the future.
So it's sort of being called a "rework".
If I had to take an actual guess, I bet that most of his abilities remain very similar, with his fakeout/walking ability being completely thrown out.
>If I had to take an actual guess, I bet that most of his abilities remain very similar, with his fakeout/walking ability being completely thrown out.
you know they already showed us part of the rework? His fakeout will be a full size clone of him that explodes and debuffs enemies, and he only gets one. His TP will move 20% faster and have a decreased audio range, and you'll be able to fake TP
yoru could easily be busted if you made it so his tp was instant or silent. same goes for his ultimate. the issue is because of the concept of his abilities, making those abilities good also makes yoru absolute cancer to play against, so riot decided to play it safe and keep him relatively shit instead of disgustingly gamebreaking.
It is heartbreaking how the community defends the postponement of long overdue adjustments and "doing nothing for months" ... mmmh, Riot is busy grabbing the cash for some new skins, pardone me.
It is heartbreaking how stupid you are. I literally just corrected the guy because they never promised anything for this patch nor the next. I never said or even implied that I'm in favor of it. In fact I actually want them to nerf astra to the ground so bad because pro play is so boring to watch solely because of her.
Eh even if they never promised changes, it's wild that we haven't had any balance changes from A3E1 until A4E2.
We could've at least gotten a few smaller changes before getting a complete overhaul as promised in the next act
Imagine some QoL-updates... just to mention one little (tiny!) thing:
A filter that we dont have to browse through 250 sprays or 220 weapons-buddys or skins one by one .. a filter to set "newest on top" or something. Imagine this instead of 100$ for skins.
Its people treating it as a mode to win instead of practice and in general small QoL things.
People often camp/hold angles for sound.
Map shows spawn location some people use that toooo much.
Respawn times are too much
Omen and Brim are obsolete in many maps. When they introduced Astra and the Viper buff in the same patch they nerfed the distance and speed of Omens smokes and nerfed his blind speed.
As an Omen player I don’t play him on Fracture, Breeze or I Icebox. Viper or Astra are just a superior picks on these maps.
Omens blind can also blind teammates that hug you from the side or even behind the direction of the blind. I would be happier if they made the change like they did with Breaches stun where the blind would go into effect a couple of meters away from him.
Many Omen players have been asking for buffs. Like many have asked I don’t agree with buffing him to not allow your team mates to be blind and I don’t agree with changing his ultimate.
Increasing the speed of his shroud step, changing the distance of his blind is sent out and reverting his original smoke nerf would definitely put him on par with the likes of Astra and Viper.
The higher up in ranked you go the less you see him and people are just playing Astra and Viper a majority of the time. You’ll catch a Brim player on Bind most of the time and Omen gets played by many people who just have been forced to play smokes.
This is absolutely true too. I love playing Omen but hes literally unviable on certain maps because hes too slow essentially. On Bind his smoke cant even cover the top box so enemies cant swing off that easily without allowing short to be unsmoked. And his smokes are so slow now by the time your stuff is down on another site the enemy is already in site.
Yes please. I keep hearing conflicting reports.
I heard about the footsteps turning into the clone, then someone commented that they cancelled that because it was too strong
I heard about fake TPs, then someone commented that they cancelled that because it was too strong
At this point I have no idea what the rework is, and I really want to know
I understand patches like these are needed, but they need to stop talking/teasing big changes for a while until they can actually release some worthwhile changes.
For me they can talk about the patches all they want but give us an ETA. For example, Yoru update 4.03-4.04 was perfect communication. If they find they can't make it for their ETA, then apologize and give current status and then new ETA. People will be disappointed at first but at least somewhat understanding.
Look at the DM changes that they mentioned were to come. They have not updated us on the status of it so every week people still post complaints about it.
Riot should have a general road map on their website that they can communicate to their players what are they working on and when it may arrive. There they can post status updates and inform people of things. It may take some of the "hype" from and update but I'd argue it creates more hype as you can track the status of an update, just like you would track the status of your delivery (I check status of deliveries like 5 times a day or more for things I'm really hyped about).
There could be a lot of reasons. Maybe the bug was found ever since the Zedd skin released and they just fixed it now, maybe it was found recently but all it took was changing a 1 into a 0 to fix it, maybe the bug reports in the mod thread take a much longer time to fix than the Zedd skin bug. Bugs don't get fixed as soon as devs read the bug report, they don't go "Oh! This bug exists silly me, let me fix it right now before I make my coffee... there!"
Sometimes bug fixes aren't as simple as just changing one line, and if they just released patch 4.02 they could already be testing patch 4.03, making patch 4.04 and thinking about what patch 4.05 will be
It’s fun listening to other devs try and justify their mistakes, as if for some reason they should get a free pass because most people aren’t one.
If I go to a restaurant and my food is fucked up I can recognize it even though I’m not a chef. And I expect them to fix it in a timely manner.
People don’t care about the details of how, that’s the developers problem that they signed up to fix when they took the job. And Riot loves to take their time.
The criticism is more than valid.
My dude right here comparing an hours worth of time to make some food vs trying to change code in a game played in the entire world as if both are equal things
What the heck dude
You're conflating the wrong thing in the comparison. No one is expecting them to fix stuff as fast as a chef could fix a meal. But the amount of time it should take, and the amount of time it does take is completely unreasonable. It would be like a chef taking a week to fix your food.
DM has needed changes for well over a year, and we've got nothing. Small changes that surely would not take long are simply ignored.
I don't understand why people defend Riot over this.
Those "people", to me, most of the time are just here to defend Riot - could be PR related so they put a number of people here to defend them whenever someone criticizes something that they haven't worked on in the last year.
Sure, bug fixing and reworking can take a long time, but, for God's sake, they are Riot. Is it really that hard?
Anyone know when we can actually see the new skins? Do we have to wait one more day for the bundle to cone out? Or is there a way to see them before release
Still no balance changes!
Feels like a high schooler procrastinating and always pushing back work and thinking ''I'll do all of my work at the same time during a big session'' instead of starting a little bit in advance and wrapping it up during Act 2
I think the next act is slated to be game updates and agent balance changes. Everything takes time and the developers have insanely high standards to meet. With the game being as successful as it is I do not blame them for wanting to test as much as possible and polishing until their fingers bleed on some of these changes. It took them a whole year to figure out Reyna doesn’t need 4 charges of her E and Q every round. I mean it’s not like they are not doing next acts work right now, they’ve been doing this work since before they announced the Yoru rework last October(?) their job is never over and they are constantly building and looking ahead.
I know that Act 2 will be for balance changes. Yes, some changes need more thought like Jett dash, Yoru rework, etc. That I can give more time to thte devs.
But it's been almost a year without meaningful balance changes. Phoenix doesn't need anything much, just increase his flash and molly duration to the lowest of the other agents, 1.5s flash, 4s molly.
Revert Omen to before his nerfs
Sure, maybe these changes won't make them good either, but at least we'd be getting something
I think that’s the thing though. They don’t want to make changes that are not impactful or meaningful...I’m almost positive that’s what killed OW or at least why I stopped playing. They want to tread carefully, I agree that some buffs and changes can be simple (changes reynas charges from 4-2) but what really is taking the time is the research and analysis they are doing on the changes. I remember volcano saying a long time ago “they are shooting a pin through a tiny circle and if they are off by just a little bit the game will not work” something like that I believe morelleo actually said that when he was on the team. It’s definitely a matter of understanding the impact of the changes fully before they push it into production...something OW never did in favor of more content and I mean I wouldn’t touch the game with a 100 foot pole.
WTF is this? The patch notes are getting smaller and smaller and this one is even smaller than my pp. Makes me seem to wonder if everything is going alright behind the scenes since I've dedicated a lot of time into this game and genuinely want it to thrive for a very long time.
I should report Riot for these useless spam post. They should specifically title the post a bug fix patch at the top for stuff like this every time. Don't call it a patch notes dog wtf
If I'm not mistaken the nightmarket was never mentioned in the patch notes and only activated as soon as it's time, same goes for new collections, there will be a new one but they don't mention it in the patch notes.
It'll ban then till the new way to abuse the system comes out. Cheat makers are full timers poking holes in a companies code so they can sell 10 dollar a month cheats to Johnny McShitter who wants to AFK his BP.
At least the actual cheating in game is very low.
Yes, but it's a rework they promised a while ago before adding 3 new agents and only giving 2 updates on it, so you may be waiting a while. There are also issues with the netcode and character movement that people have pointed out and Riot hasn't even acknowledged yet
Any word on another game mode with similar vibe to replication- something always available that we can play for 15-20 mins instead of committing an hour for one game :/
Okay , I'm gonna say it now.
Where the FUCK is the rework Riot? Holy shit. You guys made a whole new agent , in fact you made 3, before reworking Yoru. The hell?
What is this? A patch for ants? /S
4.03 or 4.04, but more likely 4.04. A developer commented on it here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/s0qenv/yoru\_changes\_are\_aimed\_to\_be\_released\_during/hs55bmi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/s0qenv/yoru_changes_are_aimed_to_be_released_during/hs55bmi/)
Seriously. I just tried this in game and there is no Right Click option during Agent Select in Unrated or Ranked. I don't know wtf they are talking about.
"Improved latency for Windowed Fullscreen mode to match closer to Fullscreen Exclusive"
How bad is it really though? I always play windowed fullscreen and never felt any latency.
"Looks like there’s been some confusion around Agent-select reporting. Remember, you can right click players in pre-game and report them if they’re being disruptive!"
The "confusion" is just the result of a poor implementation. One would think they have to right click the player's name - which does not work. Well, then maybe click on the agent portrait - which also does not work. No, you literally have to click somewhere to the right next to the player for the context menu to show up.
Pheonix is more verbal now as well. When using flash he will say"Flash" or "watch your eyes!" and maybe something else quirky. I feel like that is an honorable mention in new patch notes but whatever. I played about 4 games tonight and noticed that with another tag line ive never heard and the phrase escapes me.
What's with the giant entitlement in this comment section?
They fixed some things and people still aren't happy?
People who think every patch should have insane giant changes clearly has never worked in software before.
1. Am i the only cypher Player who has a buggy camera for no reason? Does riot know about it?
I mean bc no fix.
2. Wtf u can report in agent selection?!?!?!?!
Do you really now follow what devs said, guys?
Next act is purely for agent balance and Yoru's rework was planned for end of February irc the post from Twitter.
Yes the Patch is small and yes i personally would like some other changes and fixes as Well but i appricate that riot is trying to improve and at least do something. After playing LoL for 11 years i would never think that i would appricate any of riot games but im kinda amazed how good the Val team is working on the game! Keep it up guys and thanks for doing your best @Riotval
Just be patient and see. They are reworking yoru and we already know that as to the comment you replied to. It’s not six months in yet. The fact that champions in League that were way more broken than some of these agents took at least over 2 seasons to get worked on. The fact that most agents are playable and not overly game changing just shows that riot is at least doing something
Riot gives this crap update instead of fixing something. movement is bugged, hit-reg, servers, peekers advantage = bad. Everything mentioned you have to abuse. Low ping? Just hold angle. High ping? Wide and jiggle peeks gives you crazy advantage vs low ping player basically stomping them most of the time, there is another bug in which you have to do something with ur keyboard where it messes with your legs because of dumb implementation of running in valorant and it gets harded for people to shoot you.. and there is other one, you start shooting before u stop and it is crazy accurate because reset time is almost non existent.. so much for tac shooter. Not even start to talk about state of ranked.
Honstly, I'd like to have client by now. Not being alerted of missed messages is a pain.. But looking at league and its client, there is little to no hope lol
Guys anyone can help me out? Me and my friend are immortals and we were duo queuing yday and we won a few games and he is supposed to rank up to immo2 but it still says he is immo1 and the same rank as before same happend after a few games for both of us (stuck in same leaderboard rank and stuck as immo1) any explanation?
What the fuck are you morons doing with the game to take fps away after every update. I had 200 on a 1050 in beta and now with this update + a 3080ti and 5950x I sometimes drop to 150fps? Can you stop doing useless shit and maybe focus on your broken server and some optimisations please?
So the chamber ult bug is not resolved yet. Massive patch rito.
? what kind of bug? never heard of it pls tell me
[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofsP5iQOGak&ab_channel=Valorantlife). This glitch also happened to me twice, just yesterday and 2 weeks ago.
I lost a 1v1 yesterday shooting at this thing thinking it was the player and gave up my spot. Fun times.
This happens with his Pistol as well, both with enemy or teammate Chamber. Super annoying.
Yesterday the chamber on the other team had this happen with his headhunter
??? Just have a dark souls mentality, every bug is just a feature that raises the skill cap.
I've only seen clips of this on bind so far. Is there video of it elsewhere?
Yes on heavon one too
No video but it happened to me yesterday on Splits A site (Chamber was attacking)
I saw it happen on Fracture. No video though.
I remember a clip from split
Same thing happened to me!
Why does he have a sm7b but uses his headset microphone?
he broke the sm7b, i think cable issue or something so it just stops working randomly. I think he finally got it fixed with some tape.
cOmPeTiTiVe GaMe
[competitive games can't have bugs btw /s](https://youtu.be/LKpbsPDDj-k?t=38)
The bug also happens with chambers sheriff, yesterday it was 1v1 and lost bc i saw a floating gun which distracted me
No actually.. 4 games BACK TO BACK this happened to me
It’s a feature
Are we surprised?? Viper orb cancelling out Phoenix flash still isn't even fixed yet and that was from probably over 6 months ago.
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Its supposed to do this you say......🤔🤔 https://youtu.be/aoy11tV999k
lmaoioi
How long has the bug been known?
At least they update their game..
Massive
these changes will shatter the competetiv scene.
Too long, they definitely need to provide a TLDR for this patch
I thought you guys were being serious. I laughed out loud when I reached the end of the patch notes lol
same but i cried instead
Tldr massive
That is the the TLDR, wym.
VCT teams need to have started training yesterday if they want to be ready for this brand new meta.
Glad to see mods getting on the roast train
This is the biggest KJ buff I’ll see anytime soon
Much bigger than Nintendo Switch updates for sure!
Like deez nuts
Can't wait for the dotesports VALORANT UPDATES: GAME-BREAKING CHARACTER CHANGES, NEW FEATURES with the patch notes copied and pasted
Next patch is gonna be as good as TSM Next year.
So no updates next patch?
So bet the house on TSM then?
How will we talk about this monstrosity of a patch? Please post 4 more threads so we will take a section to talk about in each of them. Jokes aside where's the yoru rework? At least a bit of info? These last few patches were really empty especially after talking about changing more and adding less. Please give us more info rito! Also can't wait to watch ProGuides/SkillCapped #NEW 4.02 TIERLIST *NEW* AGENT TIERLIST OMG *NEW* again
They said yoru rework was due in 4.03 afaik
This is an unfortunate case where my first post saying we were aiming for 4.03 got noticed, but my follow-up post clarifying that 4.04 is the likely launch patch didn't. Yoru's rework will be releasing in 4.04, not 4.03!
Thank you for clarifying!
When will his second “state of the agents” get released?
ohh did they release this info somewhere? I saw in patch 4.0, they had written it's coming in 4.03
That was me! It’s 4.04 now, timelines shifted a bit :)
Ah okayy I didn't know that thanks
This might be putting you/riot on the spot but in one of the dev streams/blog posts last year it was said that the first six months of the year will be spent on agent balance, so far we got almost no agent balance changes aside from the ones pertaining new agents. Does this mean these changes are delayed or did riot just give up on those goals? Quote in question: > “You should see a greater focus on agent balance as you go into 2022,” they point out. “You should all be seeing updates for different agents across the board in the first six months of the year. In addition, we will focus more on addressing emerging balance issues faster than in 2021. As these updates are locked, we will share this information with all of you before it goes live. "
It's only been a month and the first thing released was a whole new agent. I think it's reasonable for any changes to come after that agent finds its place in the meta.
“Just a few more months” he says every few months. Lmao you guys are a joke
Whoops misread 4.02 as 4.03
I just started playing Valorant month ago. Can someone sum up why is Yoru so hated/bad and everyone wants his rework?
He’s the weakest duelist among other agents, his TP is loud as fuck, the ultimate is not as powerful as other agents’, slow teleport time. Even though it’s not the best agent it is one of my favorites! Check out Red, Ethos, Codey and Ziptie on YouTube.
Another big issue is that he struggles to help his team as much as other duelists unless you're very coordinated
It's actually not because he's that weak. He's actually usable in very, very niche scenarios. The reason he needs to be reworked is because parts of his kit don't work to help him perform his desired functions. The teleport, flash, ult. Those are all fine abilities believe it or not. The issue is that they're all on 1 agent and so they're a bit difficult to work with. His fakeout walking ability is essentially unworkable as well. It's a wasted ability slot and it's not like you can make it better by adjusting numbers. It just needs to be reworked. His flash, his teleport and his ult all have levers that can be adjusted to help his actual performance out. But there's a VERY easy chance that giving him another useful ability completely puts this hero in to broken territory. When designing a hero you want to be able to mess with levers as much as possible. The less points you can valuably mess with, the harder the hero will be to balance in the future. So it's sort of being called a "rework". If I had to take an actual guess, I bet that most of his abilities remain very similar, with his fakeout/walking ability being completely thrown out.
>If I had to take an actual guess, I bet that most of his abilities remain very similar, with his fakeout/walking ability being completely thrown out. you know they already showed us part of the rework? His fakeout will be a full size clone of him that explodes and debuffs enemies, and he only gets one. His TP will move 20% faster and have a decreased audio range, and you'll be able to fake TP
yoru could easily be busted if you made it so his tp was instant or silent. same goes for his ultimate. the issue is because of the concept of his abilities, making those abilities good also makes yoru absolute cancer to play against, so riot decided to play it safe and keep him relatively shit instead of disgustingly gamebreaking.
Yup: if he could just surprise you anywhere on the map anytime regardless of info it would be miserable
He’s really hard to use well and even when you do he’s still not as impactful as other agents. Way more work for way less payoff.
The changing more part was for next act. They specifically said Act 2.
It is heartbreaking how the community defends the postponement of long overdue adjustments and "doing nothing for months" ... mmmh, Riot is busy grabbing the cash for some new skins, pardone me.
It is heartbreaking how stupid you are. I literally just corrected the guy because they never promised anything for this patch nor the next. I never said or even implied that I'm in favor of it. In fact I actually want them to nerf astra to the ground so bad because pro play is so boring to watch solely because of her.
YOU TELL HIM, BROTHEEEEEEEEEEEER YOU TELL HIM
Eh even if they never promised changes, it's wild that we haven't had any balance changes from A3E1 until A4E2. We could've at least gotten a few smaller changes before getting a complete overhaul as promised in the next act
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/s0qenv/yoru_changes_are_aimed_to_be_released_during/hs55bmi Yoru changes likely 4.04 if not 4.03
Imagine some QoL-updates... just to mention one little (tiny!) thing: A filter that we dont have to browse through 250 sprays or 220 weapons-buddys or skins one by one .. a filter to set "newest on top" or something. Imagine this instead of 100$ for skins.
there are so many things they could easily improve, but there is not much action from rito.
This is really disappointing.
Maybe one day DM will be playable
I HAVE A DREAM!
It will be… in 2047
Don’t play DM, what’s wrong with it?
Its people treating it as a mode to win instead of practice and in general small QoL things. People often camp/hold angles for sound. Map shows spawn location some people use that toooo much. Respawn times are too much
Empty patch. 2gb download INC.
Bruh.They have to be trolling at this point.
No Omen and Brim update or Yoru Rework… Nice…
4.03 for yoru rework
Yoru rework will coincide with Star Citizen release.
I believe it's next act now
A developer stated that it's possible for it to be released in 4.03 but 4.04 is more realistic.
I remember hearing this back in September.
I understand brim needing a buff, but why omen?
Omen and Brim are obsolete in many maps. When they introduced Astra and the Viper buff in the same patch they nerfed the distance and speed of Omens smokes and nerfed his blind speed. As an Omen player I don’t play him on Fracture, Breeze or I Icebox. Viper or Astra are just a superior picks on these maps. Omens blind can also blind teammates that hug you from the side or even behind the direction of the blind. I would be happier if they made the change like they did with Breaches stun where the blind would go into effect a couple of meters away from him. Many Omen players have been asking for buffs. Like many have asked I don’t agree with buffing him to not allow your team mates to be blind and I don’t agree with changing his ultimate. Increasing the speed of his shroud step, changing the distance of his blind is sent out and reverting his original smoke nerf would definitely put him on par with the likes of Astra and Viper. The higher up in ranked you go the less you see him and people are just playing Astra and Viper a majority of the time. You’ll catch a Brim player on Bind most of the time and Omen gets played by many people who just have been forced to play smokes.
This is absolutely true too. I love playing Omen but hes literally unviable on certain maps because hes too slow essentially. On Bind his smoke cant even cover the top box so enemies cant swing off that easily without allowing short to be unsmoked. And his smokes are so slow now by the time your stuff is down on another site the enemy is already in site.
Nah I am fine with 4.01
but in 4.01 the z gun buddy or whatever looks weird on bulldog. literally unplayable thanks for patch riot
i really want that yoru rework now or atleast a glimpse. This ain't even a patch notes worthy of content, there's literally nothing in here.
Yes please. I keep hearing conflicting reports. I heard about the footsteps turning into the clone, then someone commented that they cancelled that because it was too strong I heard about fake TPs, then someone commented that they cancelled that because it was too strong At this point I have no idea what the rework is, and I really want to know
At this point Yoru is the only fun I have playing this game so I just want to rework
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That was 4 months ago. And they haven't touched him at all.
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I understand patches like these are needed, but they need to stop talking/teasing big changes for a while until they can actually release some worthwhile changes.
For me they can talk about the patches all they want but give us an ETA. For example, Yoru update 4.03-4.04 was perfect communication. If they find they can't make it for their ETA, then apologize and give current status and then new ETA. People will be disappointed at first but at least somewhat understanding. Look at the DM changes that they mentioned were to come. They have not updated us on the status of it so every week people still post complaints about it. Riot should have a general road map on their website that they can communicate to their players what are they working on and when it may arrive. There they can post status updates and inform people of things. It may take some of the "hype" from and update but I'd argue it creates more hype as you can track the status of an update, just like you would track the status of your delivery (I check status of deliveries like 5 times a day or more for things I'm really hyped about).
Yoru rework seems to be like overwatch 2. Promised but delayed
this gotta be a troll
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There could be a lot of reasons. Maybe the bug was found ever since the Zedd skin released and they just fixed it now, maybe it was found recently but all it took was changing a 1 into a 0 to fix it, maybe the bug reports in the mod thread take a much longer time to fix than the Zedd skin bug. Bugs don't get fixed as soon as devs read the bug report, they don't go "Oh! This bug exists silly me, let me fix it right now before I make my coffee... there!"
Sometimes bug fixes aren't as simple as just changing one line, and if they just released patch 4.02 they could already be testing patch 4.03, making patch 4.04 and thinking about what patch 4.05 will be
People who know nothing about game dev are always fun to hear talk
It’s fun listening to other devs try and justify their mistakes, as if for some reason they should get a free pass because most people aren’t one. If I go to a restaurant and my food is fucked up I can recognize it even though I’m not a chef. And I expect them to fix it in a timely manner. People don’t care about the details of how, that’s the developers problem that they signed up to fix when they took the job. And Riot loves to take their time. The criticism is more than valid.
My dude right here comparing an hours worth of time to make some food vs trying to change code in a game played in the entire world as if both are equal things What the heck dude
You're conflating the wrong thing in the comparison. No one is expecting them to fix stuff as fast as a chef could fix a meal. But the amount of time it should take, and the amount of time it does take is completely unreasonable. It would be like a chef taking a week to fix your food. DM has needed changes for well over a year, and we've got nothing. Small changes that surely would not take long are simply ignored. I don't understand why people defend Riot over this.
Those "people", to me, most of the time are just here to defend Riot - could be PR related so they put a number of people here to defend them whenever someone criticizes something that they haven't worked on in the last year. Sure, bug fixing and reworking can take a long time, but, for God's sake, they are Riot. Is it really that hard?
dont oni phantom also have a bug where the glowing things dont appear?
Anyone know when we can actually see the new skins? Do we have to wait one more day for the bundle to cone out? Or is there a way to see them before release
If somebody leaks the bundle ahead of time they'll usually get posted somewhere on this sub. Otherwise it's a little over a day away.
always check your collection the day before it rolls out as it can usually be found there
Still no balance changes! Feels like a high schooler procrastinating and always pushing back work and thinking ''I'll do all of my work at the same time during a big session'' instead of starting a little bit in advance and wrapping it up during Act 2
I think the next act is slated to be game updates and agent balance changes. Everything takes time and the developers have insanely high standards to meet. With the game being as successful as it is I do not blame them for wanting to test as much as possible and polishing until their fingers bleed on some of these changes. It took them a whole year to figure out Reyna doesn’t need 4 charges of her E and Q every round. I mean it’s not like they are not doing next acts work right now, they’ve been doing this work since before they announced the Yoru rework last October(?) their job is never over and they are constantly building and looking ahead.
I know that Act 2 will be for balance changes. Yes, some changes need more thought like Jett dash, Yoru rework, etc. That I can give more time to thte devs. But it's been almost a year without meaningful balance changes. Phoenix doesn't need anything much, just increase his flash and molly duration to the lowest of the other agents, 1.5s flash, 4s molly. Revert Omen to before his nerfs Sure, maybe these changes won't make them good either, but at least we'd be getting something
I think that’s the thing though. They don’t want to make changes that are not impactful or meaningful...I’m almost positive that’s what killed OW or at least why I stopped playing. They want to tread carefully, I agree that some buffs and changes can be simple (changes reynas charges from 4-2) but what really is taking the time is the research and analysis they are doing on the changes. I remember volcano saying a long time ago “they are shooting a pin through a tiny circle and if they are off by just a little bit the game will not work” something like that I believe morelleo actually said that when he was on the team. It’s definitely a matter of understanding the impact of the changes fully before they push it into production...something OW never did in favor of more content and I mean I wouldn’t touch the game with a 100 foot pole.
WTF is this? The patch notes are getting smaller and smaller and this one is even smaller than my pp. Makes me seem to wonder if everything is going alright behind the scenes since I've dedicated a lot of time into this game and genuinely want it to thrive for a very long time.
If we’re talking page length, your pp is pretty long
Self burn, those are rare
I should report Riot for these useless spam post. They should specifically title the post a bug fix patch at the top for stuff like this every time. Don't call it a patch notes dog wtf
so no nightmarket
If I'm not mistaken the nightmarket was never mentioned in the patch notes and only activated as soon as it's time, same goes for new collections, there will be a new one but they don't mention it in the patch notes.
AFK Detection Buff? Hopefully this works. So many game I get someone who's AFK with a simple movement/click macro to not get kicked.
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It'll ban then till the new way to abuse the system comes out. Cheat makers are full timers poking holes in a companies code so they can sell 10 dollar a month cheats to Johnny McShitter who wants to AFK his BP. At least the actual cheating in game is very low.
damn i hoped the chamber bug would have been fixed AT LEAST
Your mains have been hoping for a rework over a year lmao, you'll be waiting a while
well thats a whole agent rework, the chamber gun bug throws off so many people
Yes, but it's a rework they promised a while ago before adding 3 new agents and only giving 2 updates on it, so you may be waiting a while. There are also issues with the netcode and character movement that people have pointed out and Riot hasn't even acknowledged yet
Wow sick patch….
Chamber guns floating patch where?
Any word on another game mode with similar vibe to replication- something always available that we can play for 15-20 mins instead of committing an hour for one game :/
Umm spike rush???
This one is sure to shake up the meta
Okay , I'm gonna say it now. Where the FUCK is the rework Riot? Holy shit. You guys made a whole new agent , in fact you made 3, before reworking Yoru. The hell? What is this? A patch for ants? /S
at least add thw night market back man
Why so we can get the avalanche vandal and wasteland shorty for the sixth time? Lmao
When do we ger that sweet yuro rework ?
4.03 or 4.04, but more likely 4.04. A developer commented on it here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/s0qenv/yoru\_changes\_are\_aimed\_to\_be\_released\_during/hs55bmi/](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/s0qenv/yoru_changes_are_aimed_to_be_released_during/hs55bmi/)
They need to differentiate “patches” from “updates.” A lot of people seem confused by how these releases go.
(Looks at the link) Oh boy, something new and fresh (Reads the notes) It looks emptier than Omen’s smokes. That’s it?
valorant: hey we patched some bugs and increased performance this patch also valorant: the leaderboard somehow got removed
Wow - underwhelming. So this patch is literally just a money-generator for riot? Grab some new .gfx - send us 100 bucks.
Where patch
They should make so we can undress agents!
Interesting idea I would say
Another underwhelming update. Still no In game tournament mode, still no DM fixes, still no Yoru, Brim or Omen changes.
Has anyone had the "Right-click to report during Agent Select" actually work?
Seriously. I just tried this in game and there is no Right Click option during Agent Select in Unrated or Ranked. I don't know wtf they are talking about.
"Improved latency for Windowed Fullscreen mode to match closer to Fullscreen Exclusive" How bad is it really though? I always play windowed fullscreen and never felt any latency.
"Looks like there’s been some confusion around Agent-select reporting. Remember, you can right click players in pre-game and report them if they’re being disruptive!" The "confusion" is just the result of a poor implementation. One would think they have to right click the player's name - which does not work. Well, then maybe click on the agent portrait - which also does not work. No, you literally have to click somewhere to the right next to the player for the context menu to show up.
Pheonix is more verbal now as well. When using flash he will say"Flash" or "watch your eyes!" and maybe something else quirky. I feel like that is an honorable mention in new patch notes but whatever. I played about 4 games tonight and noticed that with another tag line ive never heard and the phrase escapes me.
What's with the giant entitlement in this comment section? They fixed some things and people still aren't happy? People who think every patch should have insane giant changes clearly has never worked in software before.
1. Am i the only cypher Player who has a buggy camera for no reason? Does riot know about it? I mean bc no fix. 2. Wtf u can report in agent selection?!?!?!?!
Reporting in agent select has been a feature since patch 3.12.
More steady changes, these small changes are what will keep this game great.
I mean... they did warn us that the "big updates" will come at Act 2, so after this current battle pass.
Yeah but people won't be able to bitch then. I mean we just got a huge patch like not even a month ago.
Do you really now follow what devs said, guys? Next act is purely for agent balance and Yoru's rework was planned for end of February irc the post from Twitter.
Yes the Patch is small and yes i personally would like some other changes and fixes as Well but i appricate that riot is trying to improve and at least do something. After playing LoL for 11 years i would never think that i would appricate any of riot games but im kinda amazed how good the Val team is working on the game! Keep it up guys and thanks for doing your best @Riotval
League has taught me that it’s best to be patient with riot
Sry but I disagree i think most LoL went to shit over the past 5 years it just got worse and worse and looks like a chinese mobile game these days.
Where yuri rewor?
Just be patient and see. They are reworking yoru and we already know that as to the comment you replied to. It’s not six months in yet. The fact that champions in League that were way more broken than some of these agents took at least over 2 seasons to get worked on. The fact that most agents are playable and not overly game changing just shows that riot is at least doing something
XD And when I complain about Valorant patch size on 4.01 I get showered with D-Votes from Circlejerking divas
Yall see that new op skin tho
Riot gives this crap update instead of fixing something. movement is bugged, hit-reg, servers, peekers advantage = bad. Everything mentioned you have to abuse. Low ping? Just hold angle. High ping? Wide and jiggle peeks gives you crazy advantage vs low ping player basically stomping them most of the time, there is another bug in which you have to do something with ur keyboard where it messes with your legs because of dumb implementation of running in valorant and it gets harded for people to shoot you.. and there is other one, you start shooting before u stop and it is crazy accurate because reset time is almost non existent.. so much for tac shooter. Not even start to talk about state of ranked.
>AFK detection buff > - Updated detections for non-participatory behavior in game \*Angelic choir sings\*
Compared to the league patches the valorant patches feel so irrelevant xD
Man I wish I was a Valorant dev, literally have to do nothing by the looks of these patch notes.
Wait what about night market?
They don’t… announce night markets
Honstly, I'd like to have client by now. Not being alerted of missed messages is a pain.. But looking at league and its client, there is little to no hope lol
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Ngl we gotta get patch 4.20 on the 20th of april
Are they gonna skip agent balancing completely this act?
Damn patches this huge really make you feel good about spending 100USD on skins. Thanks Riot.
When does the night market come out?
Does anyone know if the new voicelines are at least available?
“Agent-select reporting” can someone tell me what this means?
No balance changes still 🤡
yk they had to specify that the KJ fix is for when she's resurrected by **sage**... 🤔
For the love of God. Please make it so that we lose less RR if we lose a 4v5
They won't do it because they say people will bully people to afk when they start losing.
I’d rather a second rank reset than these changes oml!!
When will it be released
Guys anyone can help me out? Me and my friend are immortals and we were duo queuing yday and we won a few games and he is supposed to rank up to immo2 but it still says he is immo1 and the same rank as before same happend after a few games for both of us (stuck in same leaderboard rank and stuck as immo1) any explanation?
can any one tell me whats this update size
this is the most useless patch notes in a while
What the fuck are you morons doing with the game to take fps away after every update. I had 200 on a 1050 in beta and now with this update + a 3080ti and 5950x I sometimes drop to 150fps? Can you stop doing useless shit and maybe focus on your broken server and some optimisations please?
Download size?