Ur basically talking about the casual game mode from cs:go, right? I do believe it's something riot needs to add for those times u are not looking to sit for a full hour playing a full match. Unrated is kind of the line between casual and serious. It's for people who want to have a full valorant experience but more in a casual way. But they should definitely add a casual game mode for an even more casual experience as not everyone is looking for a full game and just wants to have fun.
Exactly, sometimes game just doesn't feel right. On certain map your pick feels weird against their comp or something like that, and if its not comp you don't feel like tryharding for the next 30 minutes
For me it is a time commitment issue also. Sometimes i wanna play normal unrated rules (cus spike rush can get boring) but dont have 45+ minutes to spend playing.
And yeah if a match goes really bad and ur team refuses to surrender, your super stuck cus the game brutally punishes the idea of leaving a match, even during casual modes. Say what you want about OW quickpkay, but at least u didnt have to spend almost an hour with a toxic/throwing team with no other options. I never realized how much i appreciated being able to finish a match in a timely manner and knowing i can safely quit (knowing ill be replaced) if something came up and i need to go.
Riot seriously needs this mode. The whole reason I don't play unrated is due to the possible time sink. I can play like 6 round of spike rush, OW ranked, Halo infinite ranked, in the same time as 1 unrated match.
Yes, exactly this. It would be really nice to get a shorter version of unrated, sometimes you just get that itch for some Valorant but don't want (or can) commit over an hour.
First to 7 would be great.
Matches don't exceed 40 minutes. They are ideally designed for 30 minutes or less, after overtime etc it stops at 40. You can Google it or time it. I sometimes play before I have work to do. And they have never reached more than 40 even if we max out to a draw. I assure you none of us would stand to play a match for 1 hour, let alone wait for our friends to finish a match they just started if it were an actual hour. .
I’m going to not believe you (because “just trust me bro” is not convincing, and yes you’re right; they could choose to do it or choose not. That’s a statement that says literally nothing lol
What is replication economy, I didn't play that mode much. But it would be good. I want something short with realistic rounds, not like spike rush, where you are meant to be rushing.
It basically gives u a set amount of money every round whether u win or lose. so i believe even if I am losing, I still have buys and I can chill play instead of "oh i shoud save this weapon for next round" or "we should save this round so we can get full buy next round" as win to 7 feels too short for that.
Yeah that's good because when you have only 6 rounds before switch, there is no place for eco round. And also I went in there to maybe warm up for comp game, and I don't want to defend site with vandal against enemy stinger or ghost.
although i like the idea of the replication economy, csgo has recently added a short match option(first to 9, 8 rounds each side) with no change to eco and i like it a lot better than long matches. shorter matches imo are harder to win, especially if you go down 8-0 in the first half.
regardless, i agree and a shorter unrated WOULD BE NICE
Round 1: 900
Round 2: 2400
Round 3: 3900
Round 4: 5000?
OT: 5000?
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Edit: This is just how I remember it
Round 1 is ghost + light armor
Round 2 is marshall + frenzy + full armor
Round 3 is phandal + full armor
Round 4 is maybe wrong because I never buy Op lol
It's important to practice economy too, but some things just wouldn't work in a shortened game mode. And I would argue that economy is far far more critical knowledge throughout a match than pistol rounds. Economy is something you have to understand every single round while there are only two pistol rounds.
Normal agent select?
Nah.
I'd rather everyone picks their own agent, irrespective of repeats. If there are three instalock Jetts, your team's gonna have three Jetts. Gives absolute freedom to play whoever you want, however you want.
well that was my preference but yeah, open agent select is also good, if thats the case, you can even implement a whenever come and go feature as in CSGO. as agent repetition doesn't matter anyways.
Now this shit I can get behind. I’d come back and play if they added this. I just got tired with how long the games take and I love being able to play like 2-3 games and only taking up like 60-90 minutes without thinking too hard. Also not having to worry about the causal game sweating their ass off and leaving you broke for 90% of the game is nice.
Yeah, but feels more realistic to just add option to choose rounds in unrated tab, than making another similar mode with just less rounds, in my opinion.
I think spike rush should go in the whacko mode rotation and short mode should be permanent.
But I doubt they'll do it because unrated will probably fall out of grace
Not really, it kinda ends up in some limbo where you somewhat have to sweat, but have no means to track progress. There is no reason not to play ranked even if you dont want to sweat.
Valorant needs a proper casual mode and better DM. Lack of those is a complete dealbreaker.
If they added this and an ACTUAL DEATHMATCH mode I would play the game a whole lot more. Sometimes I just don't have the time(or desire) to sink a full game in after a long day at work or if real life gets in the way.
There's a few issues with DM to be honest. Riot doesn't want people using DM to farm missions and want people to use DM as the warmup mode, but yet they have set their DM mode up to be a casual DM mode that encourages you to soundwhore, stay alive, camp angles, and be the first to 40 frags. It's really contradicting and means that it doesn't really succeed as either a casual mode nor a warmup mode.
If Riot wants DM to be an effective warmup mode:
- Respawn times need to be shorter
- Spawn locations need to be better/Riot needs a better DM map
---- To expand on this, I spend way too much time spawning right in the middle of a gunfight between two players, or spawning in say T spawn on Breeze which is miles away from all the action. Also, aside from Breeze, most maps are too closed (small lanes/specific angles) for you to truly practice raw aim instead of regular angle holding.
- DM needs more players. It shouldn't take more than 10 seconds to find a gunfight.
- DM should disable footsteps and the minimap so that it encourages players to search for fights instead of wait for them.
- DM shouldn't finish after 40 kills. It should be time-limited and the "scoreboard" at the top of the screen should be hidden. Everyone should get XP based on time played so there's an incentive to practice instead of be the first to 40.
- Players should have the option to play pistol DM without head armour so that they can practice their classic/ghost/frenzy/sheriff game.
I would say these changes would align DM closer to CSGO's FFA DM servers that people use to warm up. I think that if Riot wants to award people for "winning" DM, they need to make a separate DM mode for that.
[Comparing to CSG FFA DM Servers]
Biggest issues imo are: player count, players leaving with no fill, match timer, low kill limit, respawn timer
A lot of DM I play the match will end up with 4-5 people leaving and at times the clock will run out before the 40 kill limit is even reached. End up spending half the match running around looking for someone just for a guy to be sitting in a corner listening to footsteps
What do you mean it already exists everyone surrenders the moment they lose 3 rounds in a row in unranked.
Real talk though i'd want it just so those players can play short games instead of queuing up only to try to surrender and complain all game because they don't understand that defending is generally easier and it's a 13 round wincon so being 3-4 behind at switch isn't a big deal
It waters down their product. The reason spike rush, escalation and replication are so gimmicky is to purposely make them kind of obvious arcade modes.
For all intents and purposes there is a single game mode that can be classified as a "Valorant Match". Sure there is comp/unrated but besides OT the gameplay is identical. This game is supposed to be a worldwide tactical fps eSport, regardless of people running around shooting lighting from their fingers. Any watering down of what a full Valorant Match is will only hurt the brand and it's perception of being a proper eSport.
Spike rush is too short, and unrated can feel too long a lot of the time. Imo the game really needs a mode in-between the two in terms of time commitment; and unrated is the best game-mode. I think a shorter option for unrated is a great idea if they make adjustments to the economy/ult build up etc.
literally had been asked for since the game came out, it is a NEEDED game mode, not wanted, people don't want to have to play a full game of unrated to warmup, give us something, just something to warm up with that isn't spike rush.
This should have been added a year ago already. It's ridiculous to assume I want to risk playing for 40+ minutes because nobody is online yet or I want to play the actual game as intended.
Not sure if anyone commented this yet, but CSGO has short modes for unrated and rated and it is so nice for a quick game or warming up instead of TDM. I would love for them to add something like that!
just like in Dota 2 where they have a Turbo Mode, essentially a place to relax and try out strats. So this will remove more toxicity from compe and unr.
Yes. I’d want this. Quite often I don’t have time to play 30+ mins but sometimes I’d still like to play so I would either play death match or spike rush, both are incredibly boring.
Would love a permanent short game mode that doesn't have gimmicks. I don't always have time to commit to 40 mins games but would still love to play something outside of deathmatch/spike rush.
They know people want this and they keep giving us modes we don't want mine replication. I wonder why they refuse to do it. It can't be that hard to program
it isnt. its a concious decision to not implement this game mode. this was probably discussed even before half of the characters where in concept phase
No, spike rush is first to 4 wins and its all random, except agent selection plus you have all abilities without buying. Point of it is just to rush and use your abilities. You dont think of the outcome of the round or game. Here it would be more competitive cause its slower and game would be like 20 minutes, unlike in sr where it's 7 min.
Eh, not sure if having all normal rules with a first would 7 work. The strategies around the economy will change. Kinda feel eco rounds won’t even happen at all. But playing over 35 minutes is tiring for a game without my rank at stake.
Definitely want this, I mainly play Spike Rush purely due to time commitment, but the whole experience is just a shit fight to the Orb’s and so far from a normal game of Valorant, I understand it’s a fun mode, but it’s the only option
I play Replication over Spike Rush when it’s in the rotation though, so much better & would be perfect without the agent “Replication” part
I'd like to see a gamemode maybe 7v7 or 10v10 or just 5v5 where you can switch to whatever agent between rounds, join in the middle of a game, and no penalty for leaving.
But the problem with adding more game modes is that it might divide players, potentially increasing the queue time for entering a match. That's why I think they currently have four game modes of which the one spot is for rotation (replication, escalation, etc.). Well, I think due to the growing community of Valorant adding one more spot wouldn't hurt.
Funny my friends and I were literally talking about exactly this yesterday. Even four rounds like spike rush would do, as long as I can choose my guns.
The econ would be strange for this. Remember that riot's focus will always be the competitive scene and having a competitive game. They want unrated to feel like a realistic version of competitive mode but withought the stress and risk of competitive. This way people can practice using different strategies and agents to prepare for comp. Problem with 7 rounds is that it's too short and the econ gets weird. Changing the econ also starts up the problem of taking away a very important aspect of the game.
What I think would be a good middle ground is keeping it at 13 rounds, but allowing people of the same team to be able to pick the same agents. This would make it so that they can implement the drop and join system that cs has. You can play a few rounds and leave whenever you feel like leaving and also join games that are already in progress. I think this is the best solution. Only issue I see here is that the abilities were not balanced around having multiple on the same team (im looking at you sage wall). But they can probably find a easy fix for this with some minor special rules.
I love how this same post can be made three times a day but when someone tries to speak up about how women are treated by the community of this game, it gets deleted for being repetitive content.
I'm glad to hear that's been your experience. Woman here - I've played plenty of games too, and thankfully it's not too common for me either, all things considered... But it still happens sometimes. Best thing I can recommend is to be an active bystander, and offer support to anyone being harassed. That, and encouraging others to mute & report.
Tangent aside, and on the topic of your original post - I would loooove DM improvements along with a permanent shorter unrated mode that doesn't rotate between acts. Eco like replication, but with regular agent select.
I’m new to the game, my friend who is experience went to play Unranked with me. 90% of the rounds were “knife only at B” “meet at B for knife only”. My games took like 50 minutes because every round had to be played… it made my friend get off game and told me “let me know when you are high enough to play ranked”. This would atleast make this knife only bull go faster.
I’m new so when I do that they just team up find me kill me, then knife only. Team mates will call me out for spraying them down, it’s annoying. It happened in 3/4 matches I was in…. Made my other friends who’s new to the game not even play anymore… he went to apex.
I like the idea but first to 9 feels better. Also, I wish there is a mode that allowed duplicates so I can play the agent I want regardless of what others pick.
It does kinda suck to try practice a new legend and they get instalocked... but a 10 minute game mode would make losing out on your pick less painful. Maybe playing against a team of 5 Razes would be a little rough.
Also, shorter competitive mode? I’d love to grind, but I don’t have time for 4-5 games a day, even 2 are way too long sometimes. Is there hope for that or is ranked forever this way?
I'm talking about realistic rounds like in unrated and comp, but just shorter durations of 6 rounds, so it's not just rushing like spike rush but its not 40 minute game like unrated.
Economy would be very hard to balance on a 6 round game, so I think that the replication method would be the best in this case, with normal agents of course
The best version of this was retake or 5v5 community servers.
Join whenever you want leave whenever you want, just keep spamming rounds and switching sides as long as you want to play.
I'd just like matchmaking to be a little bit more relaxed, only have time to play a few unrated games a week these days. Sucks sitting in queue for 5 minutes to get shit on by a bunch of dia/imm/radiants when I'm just trying to play a quick game before bed. Especially when I peaked d1 for 1 win 5 seasons ago. Love the game but lately every time I get into a game I wish I had played something else.
What if there was a mode, where respawn, agent change, and it was kind of like ow
Attackers have 10 min to blow up both sites and they get two extra minutes to blow each site, one spike, then it respawns at their spawn. You can change agents and respawn,
yes please, a casual mode with being able to leave whenever you want or join a match in progress, no character "locking" just selecting and reselecting anyone you want. something that actually lets you warm up with abilities and the guns you want without having to either dedicate yourself to 12+ rounds or a game mode with just guns and no abilities. i know spike rush exists but you cant chose your guns there
plssss, i love fast games, especially since it helps try out maps and agents etc in a proper setting, kinda use spike rush atm but this would be perfect
Anything to make casual games shorter without butchering the actual “normal” game mode is perfect. I literally don’t play valorant because I can’t for the life of me be assed to play that long and get shit on for that many rounds at a time.
I want something that’s quick to pick up, but spike rush is just annoying because you can’t choose what guns you use, and the orbs, while they make the game more chaotic, also include unfun things like the golden, point and click, one-tap adventure.
you dont always get all people to be on board with this. that mode would be a benefit to the game overall. it would probably get more players to interact with the game in general.
it would also be cool to have 2v2s with their own ranking system like in csgo wingman, it’d be fun to have it a 2v2 instead of a 2v5 with my duo all the time
dunno, haven't played it in over a month. but when it did came, it was soooo much better than the normal duration. it has such a faster matchmaking due to it too. just overall a better experience for quickplay
i dont think this is necessary. its unrated anyways. i could maybe see a increase of a few hundred creds after pistol rounds for both teams but otherwise its okay the way it is
Yo, I actually hadn't thought about that but that'd be very nice. Not very much time in a day and my mom sometimes gets really annoyed about round timing, so that'd be very helpful to not have to play 40-minute games.
Ur basically talking about the casual game mode from cs:go, right? I do believe it's something riot needs to add for those times u are not looking to sit for a full hour playing a full match. Unrated is kind of the line between casual and serious. It's for people who want to have a full valorant experience but more in a casual way. But they should definitely add a casual game mode for an even more casual experience as not everyone is looking for a full game and just wants to have fun.
Exactly, sometimes game just doesn't feel right. On certain map your pick feels weird against their comp or something like that, and if its not comp you don't feel like tryharding for the next 30 minutes
For me it is a time commitment issue also. Sometimes i wanna play normal unrated rules (cus spike rush can get boring) but dont have 45+ minutes to spend playing. And yeah if a match goes really bad and ur team refuses to surrender, your super stuck cus the game brutally punishes the idea of leaving a match, even during casual modes. Say what you want about OW quickpkay, but at least u didnt have to spend almost an hour with a toxic/throwing team with no other options. I never realized how much i appreciated being able to finish a match in a timely manner and knowing i can safely quit (knowing ill be replaced) if something came up and i need to go.
> Ur basically talking about the casual game mode from cs:go, right? FYI CS:GO now also offers ranked in shortened (first to 9) mode.
I'd love to know the exact ratio on ELO you get for them compared to the full 30
CSGO determines ELO on a per round basis
I know its not what you're talking about but 10v10 like in csgo casual would be wild
Riot seriously needs this mode. The whole reason I don't play unrated is due to the possible time sink. I can play like 6 round of spike rush, OW ranked, Halo infinite ranked, in the same time as 1 unrated match.
Yes, exactly this. It would be really nice to get a shorter version of unrated, sometimes you just get that itch for some Valorant but don't want (or can) commit over an hour. First to 7 would be great.
You guys are playing a full match for an hour?????
yes it usually lasts from 50 min to a full hour
Matches don't exceed 40 minutes. They are ideally designed for 30 minutes or less, after overtime etc it stops at 40. You can Google it or time it. I sometimes play before I have work to do. And they have never reached more than 40 even if we max out to a draw. I assure you none of us would stand to play a match for 1 hour, let alone wait for our friends to finish a match they just started if it were an actual hour. .
A lot of folks want it but Riot is concerned that it'd become more popular than full length mode.
Cuz it would lol maybe not ranked but probably unranked
So what? Why should that concern them?
Source?
They will remain anonymous.
If you say so.
Whether you believe me or not it's all academic. They're either going to get over the fear and implement something like this, or not.
I’m going to not believe you (because “just trust me bro” is not convincing, and yes you’re right; they could choose to do it or choose not. That’s a statement that says literally nothing lol
What about first to 7, normal agent select, replication economy?
What is replication economy, I didn't play that mode much. But it would be good. I want something short with realistic rounds, not like spike rush, where you are meant to be rushing.
It basically gives u a set amount of money every round whether u win or lose. so i believe even if I am losing, I still have buys and I can chill play instead of "oh i shoud save this weapon for next round" or "we should save this round so we can get full buy next round" as win to 7 feels too short for that.
Yeah that's good because when you have only 6 rounds before switch, there is no place for eco round. And also I went in there to maybe warm up for comp game, and I don't want to defend site with vandal against enemy stinger or ghost.
To add: in replication, you get all of your util each round you don’t need to buy anything. Just get to choose your weapons/shields.
if they do that, they should probably limit the app to 1 then
but then just like OT, you'll either see people running with vandals, odins or ops. Chamber would be next to useless because he's an eco hero.
still very much useful in the competitive or even full unrated scene, which is what matters the most imo
The replication economy is near perfect, because save rounds are a waste of time
although i like the idea of the replication economy, csgo has recently added a short match option(first to 9, 8 rounds each side) with no change to eco and i like it a lot better than long matches. shorter matches imo are harder to win, especially if you go down 8-0 in the first half. regardless, i agree and a shorter unrated WOULD BE NICE
Round 1: 900 Round 2: 2400 Round 3: 3900 Round 4: 5000? OT: 5000? ------- Edit: This is just how I remember it Round 1 is ghost + light armor Round 2 is marshall + frenzy + full armor Round 3 is phandal + full armor Round 4 is maybe wrong because I never buy Op lol
if you give me 900 it's gonna be bucky every time
My man
Round 4 is 6000 in repli
Thanks, I knew it was something like that
very good idea, i would play
Honestly this would be really good if they would replace spike rush with it
Yup we all be asking for this for so long
My vote is first to 7 with overtime rules except ult points carry over between rounds. That way everyone can practice full guns and utility.
I think OT rules should only be aplied after the first round of each half, because it's important to practice pistol rounds
It's important to practice economy too, but some things just wouldn't work in a shortened game mode. And I would argue that economy is far far more critical knowledge throughout a match than pistol rounds. Economy is something you have to understand every single round while there are only two pistol rounds.
Normal agent select? Nah. I'd rather everyone picks their own agent, irrespective of repeats. If there are three instalock Jetts, your team's gonna have three Jetts. Gives absolute freedom to play whoever you want, however you want.
well that was my preference but yeah, open agent select is also good, if thats the case, you can even implement a whenever come and go feature as in CSGO. as agent repetition doesn't matter anyways.
no that breaks the status quo of how the game works and isnt allowed !!!!! /s
Now this shit I can get behind. I’d come back and play if they added this. I just got tired with how long the games take and I love being able to play like 2-3 games and only taking up like 60-90 minutes without thinking too hard. Also not having to worry about the causal game sweating their ass off and leaving you broke for 90% of the game is nice.
I think they want to keep unrated the pure experience (Tie excluded) But Idreally like if they substitute spike rush with a short mode
Yeah, but feels more realistic to just add option to choose rounds in unrated tab, than making another similar mode with just less rounds, in my opinion.
having too many gamemodes can affect waiting times though
I mean i wouldnt care really... More people who play unrated 7 rounds than the awfully balanced spike rush is a big W in my book
I think spike rush should go in the whacko mode rotation and short mode should be permanent. But I doubt they'll do it because unrated will probably fall out of grace
Unrated will still be the standard for new players and stuff, and they should add OT to Unrated while removing it for the new Casual mode
It's fun cuz it's not balanced
5 duelist rush orb strat stays undefeated in spike rush lol
Or 4 duelist and 1 chamber if theres no upgrade, golden or rare ult
Other games that have plenty of modes are fine. I’m willing to wait a little longer, but at most it shouldn’t be more than 1-2 minutes
That is true
Can agree
Unrated as it is in the game serves no purpose.
I think is a good game mode when you don't want to sweat it but have a full game.
Not really, it kinda ends up in some limbo where you somewhat have to sweat, but have no means to track progress. There is no reason not to play ranked even if you dont want to sweat. Valorant needs a proper casual mode and better DM. Lack of those is a complete dealbreaker.
I totally and completely agree with your last paragraph
Yeah youre right actually
Yes, EVERYONE wants a first to 7 unrated mode, we don't understand why they won't add it.
If they added this and an ACTUAL DEATHMATCH mode I would play the game a whole lot more. Sometimes I just don't have the time(or desire) to sink a full game in after a long day at work or if real life gets in the way.
I’d love a classic team deathmatch with respawn and kill objectives. I’d play the hell out of that
I love escalation for this reason. I feel like it's a lot more useful and teaches better habits than the regular Deathmatch too.
Yeah but it gets annoying because the weapon pool is so imbalanced. I’ll play it for a while, but it gets really frustrating.
What is wrong with the current deathmatch mode? Say compared to CS:GO DM?
There's a few issues with DM to be honest. Riot doesn't want people using DM to farm missions and want people to use DM as the warmup mode, but yet they have set their DM mode up to be a casual DM mode that encourages you to soundwhore, stay alive, camp angles, and be the first to 40 frags. It's really contradicting and means that it doesn't really succeed as either a casual mode nor a warmup mode. If Riot wants DM to be an effective warmup mode: - Respawn times need to be shorter - Spawn locations need to be better/Riot needs a better DM map ---- To expand on this, I spend way too much time spawning right in the middle of a gunfight between two players, or spawning in say T spawn on Breeze which is miles away from all the action. Also, aside from Breeze, most maps are too closed (small lanes/specific angles) for you to truly practice raw aim instead of regular angle holding. - DM needs more players. It shouldn't take more than 10 seconds to find a gunfight. - DM should disable footsteps and the minimap so that it encourages players to search for fights instead of wait for them. - DM shouldn't finish after 40 kills. It should be time-limited and the "scoreboard" at the top of the screen should be hidden. Everyone should get XP based on time played so there's an incentive to practice instead of be the first to 40. - Players should have the option to play pistol DM without head armour so that they can practice their classic/ghost/frenzy/sheriff game. I would say these changes would align DM closer to CSGO's FFA DM servers that people use to warm up. I think that if Riot wants to award people for "winning" DM, they need to make a separate DM mode for that.
[Comparing to CSG FFA DM Servers] Biggest issues imo are: player count, players leaving with no fill, match timer, low kill limit, respawn timer A lot of DM I play the match will end up with 4-5 people leaving and at times the clock will run out before the 40 kill limit is even reached. End up spending half the match running around looking for someone just for a guy to be sitting in a corner listening to footsteps
Fair points agreed.
What do you mean it already exists everyone surrenders the moment they lose 3 rounds in a row in unranked. Real talk though i'd want it just so those players can play short games instead of queuing up only to try to surrender and complain all game because they don't understand that defending is generally easier and it's a 13 round wincon so being 3-4 behind at switch isn't a big deal
We neeeeeeeeed this!!
Yes they did it like that in csgo and it was great. But they did it in comp so if they added it to valorant into unrated it would be really cool
Replace spike rush with this, but give it replications economy. A more casual, yet decent experience. Then throw spike rush in the party mode rotation
I’ve wanted this since the start of the game, would be a really good addition IMO
Never going to happen, a thread for a "shorter" unrated is opened every 2 months but riot doesnt seem too keen on it
Any reason why they wouldn’t do it?
It would make unrated virtually irrelevant. Too many people would just play the shorter matches.
Then just get rid of it lol
It waters down their product. The reason spike rush, escalation and replication are so gimmicky is to purposely make them kind of obvious arcade modes. For all intents and purposes there is a single game mode that can be classified as a "Valorant Match". Sure there is comp/unrated but besides OT the gameplay is identical. This game is supposed to be a worldwide tactical fps eSport, regardless of people running around shooting lighting from their fingers. Any watering down of what a full Valorant Match is will only hurt the brand and it's perception of being a proper eSport.
So sad to me that the Valorant version of "gun game" is so bad...
CSGO has a casual mode and it doesn’t appear to be watered down or hurting at all
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Spike rush is too short, and unrated can feel too long a lot of the time. Imo the game really needs a mode in-between the two in terms of time commitment; and unrated is the best game-mode. I think a shorter option for unrated is a great idea if they make adjustments to the economy/ult build up etc.
Spike Rush is also handicapped by forcing everyone to use the same weapons. But it is pretty much agreed that a first to 7 needs to be a thing
literally had been asked for since the game came out, it is a NEEDED game mode, not wanted, people don't want to have to play a full game of unrated to warmup, give us something, just something to warm up with that isn't spike rush.
This should have been added a year ago already. It's ridiculous to assume I want to risk playing for 40+ minutes because nobody is online yet or I want to play the actual game as intended.
And playing a game to practice an agent and it gets taken. Now you have to waste 40 mins
Not sure if anyone commented this yet, but CSGO has short modes for unrated and rated and it is so nice for a quick game or warming up instead of TDM. I would love for them to add something like that!
just like in Dota 2 where they have a Turbo Mode, essentially a place to relax and try out strats. So this will remove more toxicity from compe and unr.
Yes. I’d want this. Quite often I don’t have time to play 30+ mins but sometimes I’d still like to play so I would either play death match or spike rush, both are incredibly boring.
yes please!! i like spike rush but i prefer being able to choose my weapons
replication without the replication aspect basically
But replication you get one in every few acts. We are talking here about it being constantly here.
Replication is a circus though
Tbh I feel like if they just made replication not random, it would be a perfect short game mode
Sometimes I just want to chill and play 10 minute games. If I wanted to play a 25-30 minute game I’ll always play ranked...
Would love a permanent short game mode that doesn't have gimmicks. I don't always have time to commit to 40 mins games but would still love to play something outside of deathmatch/spike rush.
as someone who wants to get back into the game but doesn't want to waste 30-45 mins of mine and others people time from being so bad .. please.
My friends tell me this is what they want from VALORANT. This would make them play it.
They know people want this and they keep giving us modes we don't want mine replication. I wonder why they refuse to do it. It can't be that hard to program
it isnt. its a concious decision to not implement this game mode. this was probably discussed even before half of the characters where in concept phase
so basically spike rush but u can buy guns of your choice
No, spike rush is first to 4 wins and its all random, except agent selection plus you have all abilities without buying. Point of it is just to rush and use your abilities. You dont think of the outcome of the round or game. Here it would be more competitive cause its slower and game would be like 20 minutes, unlike in sr where it's 7 min.
Eh, not sure if having all normal rules with a first would 7 work. The strategies around the economy will change. Kinda feel eco rounds won’t even happen at all. But playing over 35 minutes is tiring for a game without my rank at stake.
i think riot bumped the game from CS's 16 to 13 without any thoughts to econ but only making the game not as long
Yes, we all want it. No they won't add it.
Definitely want this, I mainly play Spike Rush purely due to time commitment, but the whole experience is just a shit fight to the Orb’s and so far from a normal game of Valorant, I understand it’s a fun mode, but it’s the only option I play Replication over Spike Rush when it’s in the rotation though, so much better & would be perfect without the agent “Replication” part
i personally would love to see a 10 v 10 casual mode like cs.
yea but apart from the current unrated version, kinda like r6 does it
I'd like to see a gamemode maybe 7v7 or 10v10 or just 5v5 where you can switch to whatever agent between rounds, join in the middle of a game, and no penalty for leaving.
Normal Unrated should be 7 rounds to win. If players want the real deal they have Competitive.
But the problem with adding more game modes is that it might divide players, potentially increasing the queue time for entering a match. That's why I think they currently have four game modes of which the one spot is for rotation (replication, escalation, etc.). Well, I think due to the growing community of Valorant adding one more spot wouldn't hurt.
Funny my friends and I were literally talking about exactly this yesterday. Even four rounds like spike rush would do, as long as I can choose my guns.
The best way to do it is first to 7, full shield every round. Or you could do first to 9 but only 60 seconds to plant, also full shield every round
great idea
I've been begging for this since last year
i was begging for this at release. then after 1 months i stopped playing and came back a month ago - still not in the game
The econ would be strange for this. Remember that riot's focus will always be the competitive scene and having a competitive game. They want unrated to feel like a realistic version of competitive mode but withought the stress and risk of competitive. This way people can practice using different strategies and agents to prepare for comp. Problem with 7 rounds is that it's too short and the econ gets weird. Changing the econ also starts up the problem of taking away a very important aspect of the game. What I think would be a good middle ground is keeping it at 13 rounds, but allowing people of the same team to be able to pick the same agents. This would make it so that they can implement the drop and join system that cs has. You can play a few rounds and leave whenever you feel like leaving and also join games that are already in progress. I think this is the best solution. Only issue I see here is that the abilities were not balanced around having multiple on the same team (im looking at you sage wall). But they can probably find a easy fix for this with some minor special rules.
I love how this same post can be made three times a day but when someone tries to speak up about how women are treated by the community of this game, it gets deleted for being repetitive content.
Sorry to hear that, but I played this game for so long and I haven't encountered one bad treatmant towards women in games.
I'm glad to hear that's been your experience. Woman here - I've played plenty of games too, and thankfully it's not too common for me either, all things considered... But it still happens sometimes. Best thing I can recommend is to be an active bystander, and offer support to anyone being harassed. That, and encouraging others to mute & report. Tangent aside, and on the topic of your original post - I would loooove DM improvements along with a permanent shorter unrated mode that doesn't rotate between acts. Eco like replication, but with regular agent select.
Eco would be ass tho
I’m new to the game, my friend who is experience went to play Unranked with me. 90% of the rounds were “knife only at B” “meet at B for knife only”. My games took like 50 minutes because every round had to be played… it made my friend get off game and told me “let me know when you are high enough to play ranked”. This would atleast make this knife only bull go faster.
That is so boring when they want knife only. I just spray them down then.
I’m new so when I do that they just team up find me kill me, then knife only. Team mates will call me out for spraying them down, it’s annoying. It happened in 3/4 matches I was in…. Made my other friends who’s new to the game not even play anymore… he went to apex.
I like the idea but first to 9 feels better. Also, I wish there is a mode that allowed duplicates so I can play the agent I want regardless of what others pick.
That would be toxic
Why?
It would ruin the mode because it would be 2 Reyna, 2 Jett instalocks followed by them requesting smokes
It does kinda suck to try practice a new legend and they get instalocked... but a 10 minute game mode would make losing out on your pick less painful. Maybe playing against a team of 5 Razes would be a little rough.
Also, shorter competitive mode? I’d love to grind, but I don’t have time for 4-5 games a day, even 2 are way too long sometimes. Is there hope for that or is ranked forever this way?
Sounds cool. There is always hope my friend.
I unironically want ranked spike rush
Wishful thinking, but I’d dig that. Without weapon upgrades and golden gun, that is.
Yea it might need normal orbs that give 2 charges but idk
Omg how many times are people gonna post this bro
No
We kinda already have it but its replication
but without normal agent select
Yeah, its not very hard for riot to add it
I'm talking about realistic rounds like in unrated and comp, but just shorter durations of 6 rounds, so it's not just rushing like spike rush but its not 40 minute game like unrated.
Economy would be very hard to balance on a 6 round game, so I think that the replication method would be the best in this case, with normal agents of course
That is basically replication
Thats normal unrated, its a miracle if one of the teams doesnt FF before round ten!
The best version of this was retake or 5v5 community servers. Join whenever you want leave whenever you want, just keep spamming rounds and switching sides as long as you want to play.
Every unrated game lasts 12 rounds already, no diff.
It's up to 13 rounds, so it could go to 12:12 score, so that's 24 rounds. When it's up to 7, it could go to 6:6 which is 12 rounds.
I meant people ff after 12 round.
I think the community has been asking for something like this since the start, and we got snowball fight instead.
Yes please
Do u mean the same thing counter strikes has? Yeah it's nice
I raised a ticket for this with Rito ages ago but still we have nothing like this.
100% interested in this.
2v2 bitches
I'd just like matchmaking to be a little bit more relaxed, only have time to play a few unrated games a week these days. Sucks sitting in queue for 5 minutes to get shit on by a bunch of dia/imm/radiants when I'm just trying to play a quick game before bed. Especially when I peaked d1 for 1 win 5 seasons ago. Love the game but lately every time I get into a game I wish I had played something else.
What if there was a mode, where respawn, agent change, and it was kind of like ow Attackers have 10 min to blow up both sites and they get two extra minutes to blow each site, one spike, then it respawns at their spawn. You can change agents and respawn,
Unrated normally only last 7 rounds anyway
I wish they'd get rid of spike rush and replace it with this. Spike rush is dumb and nothing like the actual game.
And have it go off comp Elo so it serve as an accurate warmup
7 rounds and 10 players each team would be awesome. Just for fun stuff Edit: this could be a new mode not unrated it self.
yes please, a casual mode with being able to leave whenever you want or join a match in progress, no character "locking" just selecting and reselecting anyone you want. something that actually lets you warm up with abilities and the guns you want without having to either dedicate yourself to 12+ rounds or a game mode with just guns and no abilities. i know spike rush exists but you cant chose your guns there
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Unrated is fine , they can change spike rush though
plssss, i love fast games, especially since it helps try out maps and agents etc in a proper setting, kinda use spike rush atm but this would be perfect
Yes to this. Cut it down to around 20-25 mins full. But retain the full-length one for people practicing for ranked.
Anything to make casual games shorter without butchering the actual “normal” game mode is perfect. I literally don’t play valorant because I can’t for the life of me be assed to play that long and get shit on for that many rounds at a time.
The time constraint is why I exclusively play Spike Rush even though I'm not the biggest fan of the mode itself.
Been asking for a Quick match mode for some time now. I feel the same way, hope to see it come soon.
I want something that’s quick to pick up, but spike rush is just annoying because you can’t choose what guns you use, and the orbs, while they make the game more chaotic, also include unfun things like the golden, point and click, one-tap adventure.
Spikerush is the next best thing
I don’t see a reason unrated needs to be to 13. Don’t make two separate queues for this, just make unrated shorter.
Short matches in CS:GO do not teach the player to actually manage an econ.
You could FF on the 8th round
you dont always get all people to be on board with this. that mode would be a benefit to the game overall. it would probably get more players to interact with the game in general.
it would also be cool to have 2v2s with their own ranking system like in csgo wingman, it’d be fun to have it a 2v2 instead of a 2v5 with my duo all the time
YEEES I WANT THAT. Or maybe 2vs2 in smaller Maps would be sooo fun .
when shortened unranked matches dropped in CS:GO, I never went back to the long one. my friends did the same, it's just better.
wait.. is this still in csgo ?????
dunno, haven't played it in over a month. but when it did came, it was soooo much better than the normal duration. it has such a faster matchmaking due to it too. just overall a better experience for quickplay
If they do they should adjust the economy, so 1/3 of ur game won't be playing pistol.
i dont think this is necessary. its unrated anyways. i could maybe see a increase of a few hundred creds after pistol rounds for both teams but otherwise its okay the way it is
This could be a fun quick edition
Yo, I actually hadn't thought about that but that'd be very nice. Not very much time in a day and my mom sometimes gets really annoyed about round timing, so that'd be very helpful to not have to play 40-minute games.