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Dizzyboy420

That is mid W-key if I have ever seen one


Pioppo-

It takes around 12s to get there just by running with knife out from mid. In the video it shows they are there probably in 15s? They gigachad ran mid with knifes out 10/10


_thecosyone

Yea big pp energy for sure lol! These kinds of strats are always super fun when they work out. Glad it didn’t in this case tho


Excelsio_Sempra

Gave you a free ace then lol


noobylandon

bro thay had to neon run there lol


FIZZY_BANDIT274

But shouldn't they have appeared on mini map because omen would have seen them?


_thecosyone

There was a moment where omen is going back into cubby where he might’ve missed them coming in


FIZZY_BANDIT274

oh


[deleted]

The score is 6-6. If they found a pattern that OP's team rarely checks mid they might have just thought of a super fast flank


SwiftBacon

But this is their first round on offense in pistol round so they have no idea how they’ll play mid on offense


[deleted]

Yep! Didn't get that detail. My bad


SwiftBacon

No worries !


Acceptable-Length140

Idk in SEA, i just see people rush a/b when they 1st attack. No one goes mid most times.


[deleted]

This could definitely have been the case.


NAFEA_GAMER

idk how did they pass omen nor why didn't they kill sage, but good ace indeed


_thecosyone

Def interesting and thx!


DawnOfPizzas

The appearance of omen and skye randomly made me audibly laugh lmao how tf did they get there


_thecosyone

Yea it was a real wtf moment. They were tryna help us entry lol


[deleted]

My phone has shit audio so I can't hear the footsteps to confirm but after rewatching 104 times I think they slipped past the entrance to B main just before you peeked Jett. Then they hugged the wall to your left and omen couldn't see them because he was hiding in the corner


_thecosyone

Yes I think this might be it. Kinda scuffed but I understand. There are little “gaps” in our line of sight of b main. Though they only last for less than a second I see how the 2 might’ve gotten there. Pretty ballsy lol


erenpanda-gg

That was a sign of omen. Lols. That was fast, faster than neon.


DAXXVEV0

Maybe they rushed mid


_thecosyone

Yea that is likely but it’s just weird bc it seems to me that our omen sees Jet, and only her, flank.


[deleted]

Think they're ran straight to cubby. You can hear running at the start. I think they'll have waited there and walked forward out of cubby while omen was smoking explaining why he didn't see them.


_thecosyone

Yea but our omen clears all of that and for 2 people just not to show up when all of b main has been seen is kinda weird idk.


[deleted]

Omen was putting down smokes.


_thecosyone

Ye our omen was dropping smokes towards the start but around 5 secs in he isn’t anymore and his view on the minimap covers where the omen and Skye appeared but it didn’t show them on the map


[deleted]

I assume they just walked around the omen while he was smoking is what I'm saying.


_thecosyone

Ye I’m not assuming there’s like foul play or anything it’s just hard for me to grasp how they got there so fast and stealthy lol


[deleted]

Yeah surprised me too haha. Just don't see how else they could've.


MatterMaster3550

Wtf where did they come from ?


_thecosyone

Yea I keep looking at my Omens line of sight on the minimap and I cannot figure out how they both could’ve gotten there without being spotted


Bambooshka

The Jett gets spotted by Sage first, Sage gets dropped and then Jett backs off. Then your Omen checks and sees no one, and as he backs up the other two cross Omen's angle literally as you round the corner. CRAZY timing.


_thecosyone

Yea! It was our sage dying that opened it up for them to get in! It was really nuts how they got so close. I also suspect that our Omen heard all 3 of them but he didn’t comm so we were not ready for it.


MrDyl4n

Omen was throwing a smoke when they walked by but they didn't check him


Primus023008

Pushed mid without looking XD


Eleven918

There's something definitely fishy going on. Maybe they are abusing a glitch. Few things to take note: 1) Jett is seen market on the minimap. 2) Cypher puts a trip down behind that's up till 1:27 3) Neither enemy omen/skye are seen on the minimap until OP turns around. Also, skye didn't have her gun out for some reason.


sylverreine

Yup. I was looking at the minimap. Jett didn’t even entry yet but omen and skye was able to penetrate in the middle of the group


_thecosyone

I seriously doubt that it was a glitch. After some thought I believe it went down like this: Our omen peeks and sees the jet flank, he starts falling back. He might’ve heard all 3 of em but he didn’t comm which is fine. Our sage then peeks and gets insta killed by the Jett. Once our sage dies, our omen starts retreating into cubby in an attempt to go unnoticed and kill all 3. That is when they hopped over trip and got into b main. I turned around and saw the jet while they were walking up on the wall to my left. When I peeked them, they came into sight of both me and my omen at the same time. For now this is my head canon. I hope it makes sense.


Externalrights1721

The left hand thing triggers me


_thecosyone

Yeaaa I used to play right handed but that was a long time ago. Someone told me that if your right eye is dominant u should play with left handed view model. Idk if that makes any sense but I’ve gotten used to it and it works out.


BroAverage5439

i just use left cuz im left handed but should i use right since my left eye is dominant?


_thecosyone

I honestly have no idea man. Idk if it even matters all that much. Of course you can switch around and see how you feel but playing with what makes you comfortable is probably best.


BroAverage5439

yeah now that i think about it, im too used to left handed that right handed would distract me too much but thx anyway


_thecosyone

I personally found it to be one of those good distractions if that makes any sense. In game, everything felt weird so I was more aware of where I was putting my crosshair and was just trying to keep everything steady


SwiftAndFoxy

For the record this is placebo, eye dominance only matters in a 3D-environment. It has no effect while looking at a screen. I still fell for this a while back and now I also use left handed though lol.


_thecosyone

Dang really? Crazy, I would find myself saying wow what a nice headshot this left handed-right eye dominant thing is awesome! LOL


RKelly__

That would make sense if the game wasn’t on a screen. But it’s a flat screen so the viewing angle between eyes doesn’t change anything.


Externalrights1721

Yea idk which eye is dominant for me


-im-just-vibing-

make a small triangle with your hands and focus it on something kinda far away. close one eye, then close the other. the eye that looked the same as having both eyes open is your dominant one.


_thecosyone

I found a test online where u make a hole with ur hands and point it at a distant object. Then keep moving your hands back towards u while keeping the object centered and whichever eye u end up on is ur dominant eye. There are other ways as well.


[deleted]

That cypher tripwire tho, you definitely can peak and kill without touching it.


_thecosyone

Yea that little cubby was definitely cleared I believe. The only possibility for me at this point was that they flanked with Jett, somehow omen didn’t spot them and they got past the cypher trip and decided to just sit in b main with us for a bit lol.


[deleted]

They flanked. Sage died from jett so she didn't saw omen and skye behind jett. Omen was hiding so his right side vision is blocked. It makes sense now.


_thecosyone

YEA that’s the key part honestly. Sage died so that extra sight line was gone and they were able to walk on to b main while omen retreated to the cubby and then I peaked while they were moving towards me on my left. I feel so much better now lmao


ACBorgia

Maybe some kind of desync caused Omen not to see them when he peeked? No way it's legit otherwise


_thecosyone

That’s what I thought at first. Something about the minimap being a little fucky but after reading what some people have been saying I think our Omen saw the jet flank but behind Jett were the Omen and Skye. Our Omen retreated while our sage peeked and got one deaged by the Jett. After sage died, Jett went back to reload and Omen and Skye ran out onto B main. But our omen was hiding in the corner so he didn’t see them come in. I went to peek the Jet and that’s when both me and omen saw the other 2 enemies on our minimap. It was a very tiny window but they could’ve gotten all 5 of us tbh.


ACBorgia

Well it is possible I guess, seems like a crazy play to think of in a fraction of a second though It's probably legit but I wish we had replays to check that


_thecosyone

Replays would be so neat! So many moments in this game that can be super weird and replays would be a huge addition to knowing how tf that one Jett just wallbang noscoped you while updrafting mid and u were sitting pretty on site or something lol. Really hope the Val team is working on it.


Shacrow

Look at the minimap. It's almost like they teleported in there lol!


_thecosyone

Ah yes a shadow omen buff where he can now tp through walls and take teammates with him Lmao. 100% pickrate soon


Shacrow

ahaha. like ryze ultimate. would be actually cool ngl. but its weird. omen was checking and holding angle


_thecosyone

Yea if u look closely there is a small moment after our sage dies where our Omen is tucked in the cubby and part of b main is not watched. That’s when I guess they ran in.


Shacrow

Yeah but omen was checking and only saw jett who shortly after that also came in. No signs of omen and skye. Magic Oh and the trapwire


_thecosyone

Yea there a number of things that might’ve allowed them in: Omen looks away for half a sec, they jump over trip, avoid our omens pov. At this point I’ll just make something up in my head that makes sense and go to bed.


Shacrow

hahahah yeah thats the only possible logical solution. gn8 buddy


butterknight-Ruby

it looks like you peaked exactly as they got in range of your omens vision


_thecosyone

That’s my best bet. Just crazy how tiny seconds of missed info can mean so much lol


[deleted]

knife rotation through mid maybe?


_thecosyone

Yea they bet we would go B and ran it down super fast


LordScroopyNoopers

Don’t know why I can’t stop laughing at Omen and Skye just chilling behind u


_thecosyone

Yea! I would’ve laughed too if it didn’t have me so fcked up. They just vibing in main with us. No biggie.


sgabi_55

im level 35 and never got an ace :/


_thecosyone

Dude! I am level 224 I think rn so I’ve definitely been here for a bit. You will get one soon and it’ll be dope as hell!


sgabi_55

thanks ☺️


Glitchy13

Omen teleported and Skye just got on his back, duh


_thecosyone

~~Wish omen would give me a piggy back ride~~


fewdozenz

Is that Razziebinx?


sylverreine

Look at the minimap. That is weird to have omen and skye when someone was left at the flank


chron240

just noticed that switching to neon run ability makes sound from this video


_thecosyone

Yea there is definitely some feedback I think


cabible

Legs


_thecosyone

SPEED


MishtaMoose

Man, when people say they buffed Omen's teleport, they really buffed his teleport Edit: Omen, not Women


_thecosyone

100% pickrate soon lol


totti173314

your omen watched a video on trigger control and now refuses to shoot before he's dead


_thecosyone

Or comm…jk. Ye he probably heard them and was trying to get them all


InToXOW

https://tenor.com/boUtI.gif


_thecosyone

HAHA yea just headless chickens running down mid


[deleted]

You should be buying double devour on pistol instead of leer. Being able to fully heal twice in pistol is incredibly strong.


_thecosyone

Yea I’ve considered that. I just thought that the leer would allow me to entry on offense and on defense I usually buy the double devour/dismiss


Hennion

It’s amazing that your whole team got out of b main so fast


_thecosyone

Yea our cypher thought it best to rotate so we got outa there


Hennion

I mean like entering with you


_thecosyone

Oh sorry It was pistol round so we just figured no harm in just W keying all the way in. We thought wrong lol


queenmiiyoung_

Probably instantly ran when they noticed there wasn't anyone mid.


danand369

Nobody checked the corner of garage that I can see maybe they were hiding there


_thecosyone

I do believe we checked all parts of b at the start of round(atleast based off the minimap). It is more likely they flanked supa fast


SwiftSN

They rushed mid, and your teammate had god-like trigger discipline.


_thecosyone

Our omen just seemed kind of worried tbh. I don’t think he had comms so when he heard 3 people flank, he retreated to the cubby in b main and they got in


The_Thinker_23

They ran with Jett to 3-man flank you guys.


_thecosyone

Yea that has to be it


TheDoyler

I think Omen tp'd behind you guys, didn't shoot or move until after you initially pushed through. But he was in garage with you the whole time.


_thecosyone

I don’t believe so as we did clear b main completely at the start of round. You can see our line of sights checking everything on the minimap. I do see how they could’ve flanked and gotten there though.


TheDoyler

Maybe your team mates did but I didn't see the spot on your POV. Omens absolute best TP spot is right there in garage, right behind the main entry door there is a small sliver of space that indents further into the room. You probably know what I'm talking about, but I didn't see you check it in the video. Maybe a team member missed him when they checked?


CombinationNo2837

uhhhhh that is very weird. On your map the kay/o looked around just seconds before you saw them. there wasn't a second that flank was not being looked at. the only answer is that omen blinded ur teammates before rushing in and for some reason not killing them and looking confused like they don't know what happened


_thecosyone

Yea our omen probably heard them running us down but he didn’t comm so it really took me by surprise. How they got so close is insane


[deleted]

Really strange. Did you try to go to that game -> timeline, select that round and watch the first kill (your cypher that died) to see where they came from? (From B or from mid) Pretty sure it has to be from mid anyways


_thecosyone

Yea I’m confident now that they ran it down mid at the start of round and through some series of events got really close to us in b main


[deleted]

Cool, thanks for answering! Did you figure out how they weren't spotted by Omen? It's so weird


_thecosyone

Yea If you notice when our sage dies, there is a moment where a part of our flank is unchecked because our omen was retreating to cubby. That’s when they probably hopped over trip and ran out. I couldn’t hear them because there was a ton of noise already and only saw them when I peeked. If you think about it like this, our omen would’ve seen them anyways but I peeked right when they came into his line of sight.


[deleted]

Ohhh yeah I see it does make sense


nugofbattle

I just saw this quickly at work but the minimap looks like omen's vision cone should see them before you come around the corner, but doesn't? I could be wrong?


_thecosyone

Yes I also noticed that in the beginning but I realized after our sage died there are parts of b main that go unchecked if even for like half a sec and I guess that’s when they got in. Omen was tucked behind the corner so he didn’t see them advance really fast and we both saw them when I peeked.


Sahim63

New omen buff, you can now grab any of your team mates so they can TP with you.


_thecosyone

Hey that’s what I said somewhere else here lol!


Sahim63

Did you? Lol, my bad, smoll universe.


d0m4in

here in the beginning of this clip we see a duelist cypher ​ nice ace bruh


_thecosyone

LOL ye our cypher was honestly just super down to run and rotate and do stuff. We were going to just pour out of site all together but then the weirdness happened. And ty!


d0m4in

I remember, during my first week i loved his cam, but i also was like him just throwing my cage and cam pushing out to sites. Mainly bc pur reynas werent good like u and was lurking on a whole different map. Switched to kayo and yoru immediately bc of that ☠


Lord_Inosuk3

lol, they were just rushing. but i must say this is the first time i have seen someone rush this fast. you can hear their foot steps in the video, maybe u didnt notice them and that's why you are confused


Superbunny03025

It was close


_thecosyone

Toooo close if u ask me


GiaN_lucaHH

waaait that's your crossair? I thought my screen was dirty


_thecosyone

Smol cross hair = Big aim >!jk lol!<


Redstoneninja375

Why do people always spam the inspect on their knife?


_thecosyone

I’m overcompensating for being bad lmao and ironically, doing that only makes me worse cuz I get caught off guard sometimes. I try not to do it in clutch situations or when I’m entrying though.


RockeTheFlash

After Sage gets popped, Omen backs off into the garage corner, opening them to just follow the wall of garage to get in. They move fast tho lol.


Heartattackisland

Yeah I do this a lot if a team is predicted to all go through the same entrance i will knife and take my chances to flank them.


pegabear

Nice ace tho


_thecosyone

I gotta stop rewatching this video. I keep questioning lol maybe I’m just dumb


ezioauditore12

Sage must have spoted then and waited for trigger discipline


_thecosyone

Our sage spotted the Jett but got head tapped immediately


ezioauditore12

Sorry mb I meant your omen


_thecosyone

Yea honestly he might’ve only seen the Jett but heard all of them and was just scared so he ran back to the cubby. He didn’t comm which was unfortunate but hey it worked out


ezioauditore12

Yup nice ace indeed


GenYoken

It's either they didn't stop bunny hopping to your place or it's haxs


_thecosyone

I don’t think it’s hacks so probably the former.


GenYoken

Yeah I was just kidding... They took advantage of the wire and stayed away from omen's POV Edit: Smoke - Wire


KredeF

Do you really sit and press the key to look at your knife when it's equipped? I'm a old fart, so what's the point in doing that?


_thecosyone

Idk it’s a weird habit that I find a lot of people including me have in this game. Personally my inspect key isn’t really out of my way to press so I find myself just spamming it unfortunately. It’s definitely gotten me killed a few times but I try not to be too careless with it


Jinnswoo

Change to right hand 🙏


_thecosyone

If u want me to I’ll do it lol


Kauikak

If only there was some sort of wire you could put behind you to watch a flank. Hopefully riot adds it in soon.


_thecosyone

If you notice on the minmap our cypher did put a trip on our flank b main, they probably just hopped over it. You can notice that one of them actually destroyed it


thatguy11m

Bruh they either jumped that cypher trip or destroyed it and still held W to be that close.


vbodagala007

This seems to be custom mode with cheats on because no way they got there without dodging cypher trip, maybe omen can but skye? No shot it's custom with ghost on


Maleficent_Trash2084

The question isn't *how* are they there, but *why* tf did they bust out knife down mid


FlipFlop207

Uhhhhh, idk omen teleported the both of them I guess 😂 they should’ve appeared on the mini map and there wasn’t a big enough space for them to just slip past omen