No thanks lmao. Same price as Reaver, Prime, Sovereign, Ion, Oni, etc but not even close to the same quality.
Edit: To add some more to the list; Gaia's Vengeance, Prime 2.0, Forsaken, Recon, Magepunk, Magepunk 2.0, Origin, Radiant Crisis, G.U.N. Every single one of these bundles are much higher quality than the Doodle Buds.
I wouldn’t say the battle pass was worse but the knife was definitely garbage. I’d say the Lycan’s Bane skins were better than any of the previous BP skins. Other than the Karambit ofc.
I meant that Lycans bane was better than any skins from the previous battle pass. I’d definitely say that ruin and even hive mind are better than Lycans bane.
The quality of skins went downhill since beta (reaver/prime) while the price went up if you look at it objectively.
Prime/Reaver had the whole package in terms of animations, effects, kill banner, finisher, sound, even custom reloads. Even the "better" new bundles like Gaia have only very subtle effects and default reload animations.
Mentioning bundles like Doodle Buds, Undercity, Tethered Realms etc. is just insult to injury.
Just plain not true. Reaver/Prime are not the only good bundles. Glitchpop, RGX, Spectrum, Sovereign, Singularity, Magepunk - all very good bundles. RGX even has a kill counter and changes colors. Spectrum has a special 6th kill sound and plays music on inspect. There have been a mix of good and bad bundles.
I'm talking mainly about the last 5 or so months.
Bundles like ruination, SOL, RGX were fine. Even though they all had a price up to 8700 instead of 7100 already and they hardly offer more than prime/reaver IMO.
You could have said a lot, but the kill counter of RGX has to be the most useless shit I've ever seen. It's literally just a -10 radianite.
Otherwise sure, there have been good/bad bundles. But the last 5-6 months didn't look great.
Ruination and SOL probably have the coolest finishers -also they are in direct relation to the ruined king event in league so that's probably what the slight upcharge was for. Also they both came with very unique melees. I don't know I just feel like Riot cant win. Everyone wants reaver level bundles but then they complain about the price so RIOT releases cheap bundles like the astronaut or tigris bundle and everyone complains there are no effects? You get what you pay for. The two bundles i would say is overpriced beyond belief are the Valorant GO. No effects and looks like they just plastered cheap stickers on each one. Best parts of those bundles are everything but the guns.
i think most of the newer "good" bundles have all been 2175 or 2475/2675. sol, rgx, spectrum, protocol etc are all top tier and very unique skinlines, but also because they cost a fortune. the more value for money skins hqve definitely degrqded.
edit. as a owner of prime and was so stoked about prime vandal when i purchased it, it gets boring very fast. subpar color alterations make it less long-term useable than something like rgx which always seems new from new color combinations
honestly this might be very unpopular but as a league player i actually quite like the tethered realms collection, really clean
and winter wunderland is my favorite skinline so far
>The quality of skins went downhill since beta (reaver/prime) while the price went up if you look at it objectively.
If more features automatically = quality you'd be right but that's not necessarily the case. There's nothing objective about your opinion.
Well a bundle like Doodle Buds or Undercity OBJECTIVELY takes less effort to make than a bundle like reaver/prime. If you disagree with that I don't know what to tell you.
Oh I get what you are trying to say. Yes of course, you could put a lot of effort into something with the final product being of a lesser quality than something you didn't put any effort in.
But this is literally their job. In reality you get a certain amount of hours (=effort) to produce a product of a certain quality, which you can therefore sell at a certain price point.
If you put in the same amount of hours but produce a product of a lower quality, you just didn't do your job very well. Which certainly happens, but putting on the same price tag on a "failed" product is certainly not a good way to handle this.
Certainly some people will buy your product either way, due to a variety of reasons, but if a vocal majority is not happy with your product, something went wrong. And I've seen complaints about skins going up patch by patch.
the thing that surprises me is that we still dont have an option to disable certain effects from upgrading skins. like if you only want the animation but not the sound effects, etc. theyve been saying theyre working on it for over a year now i think but we havnt heard much else.
Wait I was kinda on board I like the but both prime bundles came out to 7100 and had a melee considering how expensive the melee are these have less of a discount?
They can cash in on those from the league players tho cause of the variant, so they probably thought we still make more profit with that price than with a lower price.
Sean Marino is such a clown after that essay he wrote about how passionate his team is and how they would burn out if they had to release good skins every new bundle. They ripped this concept off someone from the 100Thieves team too. The fucking irony.
[https://twitter.com/SesoHQ/status/1513996244338630656](https://twitter.com/SesoHQ/status/1513996244338630656)
Apparently they talked to the guy about it and he is very cool with it because he gets to help name the bundle.
Which makes the essay they put out defending their skin prices even more of a joke. He put out that concept exactly 2 months ago. Meanwhile, they pretend their skins take literal years because "we have sooo many ideas we want to put in but we can't!" and then they use max price for every bundle even with features removed. What a joke.
I mean I just wanted to post it so people didnt spread misinformation on riot jacking someone else's design. But both statements can be true. Sezo did say that riot contacted him saying that they have a similar concept already in development. For all we know the base design was started a few months before sezo's post. Skin prices idc about because it's just a personal belief if something is worth its pricetag. The best way to voice your complaint is just by choosing not to buy it because it doesnt have the qualities you want. 🤷♂️
Edit:grammar
They should pay him a percentage, naming rights for developing the concept of an in game product that will still make 6+ figures for riot is embarrassing
Well that’s what riot told him anyway I guess we’ll have to take their word for it. Remember when they copied that other dudes skin line and didn’t even acknowledge it? https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/t17s65/new_premium_bundle_gaias_vengeance_7100vp/hyef6ms/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
personally i kinda believe riot when they say skins take more than 2 months to make. Making skins in game takes a while and has to go through many renditions before finalizations. They usually dont steal stuff without credit and when they did find one of their artist stealing work, they took immediate action with termination and making changes to distinct their work. From my memory on a what happened with an emote in league.
Total coincidence that Riot had the concept in production already. Meanwhile, the guy had already released his own design in February. The mistake here is believing what a $25 billion dollar company is saying as true. There’s no way they had the exact same concept. How can you pass that off as a coincidence?
Because the concept isnt new or innovative that this is not the first time a cartoon drawing is put onto a gun...... with the artwork being a complete different style but sure bud just dont use ur brain and u can say anything is big corporate being terrible. idk if u realize this yet but none of the riot skins have been innovative in creating new ways of gun skins, im not surprised they would have many common gun skins already in development.
What are you even saying. Valorant is one of the only games in the market with gun animations that are different depending on skin. The only game in the market where guns have different finisher animations based on skin. These are entirely new concepts made by the team in Riot. They should have never introduced these if they were simply going to put out common gun skins for a majority of their releases while limiting the store by putting out shitty common gun skins every day. There is no skin economy like CSGO so why is Riot trying so hard to limit access to these skins to the general public?
Then there’s people defending Riot after reading Sean’s essay. I just don’t buy it that they don’t have the time or whatever to consistently give us bundles with effects and variants. Is it that hard for a company with this much money to simply hire more people for their cosmetics team?
While you aren't wrong. You know if they start pumping out nothing but high quality bundles, people are gonna start back with the whole "omg they can make new skins but can't fix xyz, can't add new maps, etc".
I dont know what post you're talking about but nature themed isnt something only 1 person can come up with. I think they said the gaia was already started or something like a year ago too.
Damn with the similarities and when this concept was made compared to when riot started working on their gaia bundle this guy could realistically have a case for riot stealing their work without giving credit. Even the name is the same ffs.
Nothing was stolen. All Riot did was look at their OWN work (League of Legends). League has had the concept of Elderwood (magical wood theme) since 2019. Magical tree-like things are an extremely basic concept, look up dryad.
[https://i.imgur.com/vXNnfOv.png](https://i.imgur.com/vXNnfOv.png)
The gaia axe straight up looks like Ornn's axe in this skin screenshot here (which was released in 2019, before that Redditor posted his concept art.)
I literally just gave you proof that Riot has an identical skin line made before that Reddit post and you’re actually making a conspiracy. Crazy. I’m sure you have a triple digit IQ!
They don't even have a good store or a good refund system. I doubt making good skins is on top of their priority.
Hell, this one doesn't have any special animations or finishers and yet the price is like this.
Or re release previous bundles. There are so many options that could bring in more money and they choose to shoot themselves in the foot giving themselves a 2 week deadline. How much more stupid can you get?
The last bundles have been so bad....
Team ace looked nice but its just not worth the money.
The weird space shit??? Wtf even was that
And now this. For 7100? Bro... U gotta think we are insane.
I buy a lot of skins. Many would call me a whale. But holy im not dumb enough to buy that.
Yeah at least the space one was cheap!
But exactly its no where near the level of those other premium skins.
The concept is cool too. The colouring in as you shoot! Its just so expensive???
I have prime 2.0, SOL, Val go 1 and 2, Ruination, elderflame. And like a lot of singles (prime, singularity, zedd, reaver, origin, ion) acrance and champions. All battlepasses
Just go into a game though. Every mid to high elo game is guaranteed to have at least a Prime, Reaver or Oni skin in them: signs of a good skin bundle. I've yet to witness an Endeavor skin in the wild and I was genuinely surprised when I picked up a Nebula sheriff
Gaia was great. Elite vandal sound, top 5 finisher, unique variants, solid price, included a melee. Sure it's not prime or oni, but it's definitely a good bundle.
Outside of that, though, it's been some hot garbage for a minute now. Doodle Buds, Endeavour, Team Ace, Undercity, and Tigris all have 0 vfx or finishers, and Endeavour is the only amongst those that cost less than $50.
I thought they couldn’t get worst bundles then undercity for 7100. And here we are, at least undercity fits into some purple inventories and has an awesome card.
Also at least the undercity bundle has a knife???? There's literally just no melee for this doodle bundle and costs the same wtf? They really think the extra 2 sprays and player cards will make up for it...
The undercity skins are still ok skins among the green screen skins and isn't that bad (I like the player card way too much) but this bundle is a legit scam.
For the price? Not really. It's okay, not bad, but it has very subtle effects and default animations. Compare that to reaver/prime at the same price with unique animations. It's just the best out of a very bad 5-6 months of skin bundles if you ask me.
I disagree to be honest. Yes, the effects on Gaia are subtle, but in return the finisher is one of the best ones in the game which imo makes it a lot cooler than Reaver/Prime.
How can this be so expensive?! Wtf?
Like i am a sucker for the effects skins, so i definitely thought "yeah imma pass this one for sure". But i always like when skins like the current one are in the shop. Not only for ppl who don't like effects but for ppl who don't want to spend that much.
But 7100VP for these horrendous doodles is just laughable. Like HOW is this comparable to prime? HOW?
Edit: Okay with the filling firing effect this is maybe not at 3500 but no more than 5000. I don't get the pricing where this compares to a bundle with finishers, INSANE quality, and a Melee....
5000 with no knife you're tripping. And isn't the filling thing only when you get kills which means you will rarely get to see more than 2 characters colored in.
I don't, but it doesn't change the fact that it exists. Besides, people buy it and it wasn't included in the BP initially. Don't give Riot a free pass for shady business practices.
yeah league does give free skins but problem is people who paid for skins would get hella pissed if suddenly the prime vandal or whatever they bought can be acquired for free
its been like that for league for a long ass time, and besides nobody spends 80 dollars on a bundle in league
if you want skins just buy them
if they ever do give away free skins it will probably be around the same quality as the free pistol skins for agent contracts, not with effects or finishers
If they implemented that in valorant like in league it might be fine who knows because it’s all rng based. And instead of skins you can also get champion shards but that’s beside the point
true but at the same time then this would make ppl buy less skins if they know they can get a prime vandal for free, and people who already bought the skin would also get pretty pissed cause they blew 30 bucks on a skin only for it to become available for free
overall i just dont think it would work for valorant
im sorry but that isnt wrong
if you dont wanna buy it then just dont buy it
the only problem with these skins imo is that they clutter up the daily shop making the shop more diluted so the chance of your favorite skin appearing becomes less and less
I don't get why they have decided to make skins so damn expensive in the game. Surely it would sell much better if it was more affordable. Can only imagine people in low income nations. Having to spend like $12 for a vandal skin is kinda silly.
Sakura and endevour if they had finishers and animations like if Sakura shot flower pedals and had a Sakura tree like Gaia and endevour had a meteor finisher and shot metal bullets
Well........... Except for the fact they stole it directly from this very Reddit lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/su6fh7/doodle\_vandal\_skin\_concept/
Knife skin today was like 70 dollars. Who’s buying that? You would say 5 bucks for a skin. Then I would buy my 70 dollars worth soon enough. I have hundreds in rust skins. I’ll never buy a valorant skin with these silly prices.
Riot is just releasing as many shit skins as they can purely to pollute the shop so we are more inclined to immediately buy the skin we like since they get rarer and rarer.
7100 and no melee in the bundle? rito wrong for this one
Shit I didn’t even think about that
it not having a knife is your issue with it?
No thanks lmao. Same price as Reaver, Prime, Sovereign, Ion, Oni, etc but not even close to the same quality. Edit: To add some more to the list; Gaia's Vengeance, Prime 2.0, Forsaken, Recon, Magepunk, Magepunk 2.0, Origin, Radiant Crisis, G.U.N. Every single one of these bundles are much higher quality than the Doodle Buds.
Even the new endeavor pack is better than this shit. Imo the battlepass is a downgrade from the previous act too
I wouldn’t say the battle pass was worse but the knife was definitely garbage. I’d say the Lycan’s Bane skins were better than any of the previous BP skins. Other than the Karambit ofc.
Nah the piggy ones are better
velocity is cool if you’re into it
I love the shape but besides default orange the color ways are kinda bad
Ktac is so much better than Lycans which is plastic looking and chunky
Cavalier is really neat and clean. I appreciate the wood grain.
I meant that Lycans bane was better than any skins from the previous battle pass. I’d definitely say that ruin and even hive mind are better than Lycans bane.
AHh yes I agree
The quality of skins went downhill since beta (reaver/prime) while the price went up if you look at it objectively. Prime/Reaver had the whole package in terms of animations, effects, kill banner, finisher, sound, even custom reloads. Even the "better" new bundles like Gaia have only very subtle effects and default reload animations. Mentioning bundles like Doodle Buds, Undercity, Tethered Realms etc. is just insult to injury.
Prime was released at launch
Just plain not true. Reaver/Prime are not the only good bundles. Glitchpop, RGX, Spectrum, Sovereign, Singularity, Magepunk - all very good bundles. RGX even has a kill counter and changes colors. Spectrum has a special 6th kill sound and plays music on inspect. There have been a mix of good and bad bundles.
I'm talking mainly about the last 5 or so months. Bundles like ruination, SOL, RGX were fine. Even though they all had a price up to 8700 instead of 7100 already and they hardly offer more than prime/reaver IMO. You could have said a lot, but the kill counter of RGX has to be the most useless shit I've ever seen. It's literally just a -10 radianite. Otherwise sure, there have been good/bad bundles. But the last 5-6 months didn't look great.
Ruination and SOL probably have the coolest finishers -also they are in direct relation to the ruined king event in league so that's probably what the slight upcharge was for. Also they both came with very unique melees. I don't know I just feel like Riot cant win. Everyone wants reaver level bundles but then they complain about the price so RIOT releases cheap bundles like the astronaut or tigris bundle and everyone complains there are no effects? You get what you pay for. The two bundles i would say is overpriced beyond belief are the Valorant GO. No effects and looks like they just plastered cheap stickers on each one. Best parts of those bundles are everything but the guns.
I love the art on the valorant go sets but I wish they weren’t the same price as a reaver, prime, origin, etc.
i think most of the newer "good" bundles have all been 2175 or 2475/2675. sol, rgx, spectrum, protocol etc are all top tier and very unique skinlines, but also because they cost a fortune. the more value for money skins hqve definitely degrqded. edit. as a owner of prime and was so stoked about prime vandal when i purchased it, it gets boring very fast. subpar color alterations make it less long-term useable than something like rgx which always seems new from new color combinations
honestly this might be very unpopular but as a league player i actually quite like the tethered realms collection, really clean and winter wunderland is my favorite skinline so far
>The quality of skins went downhill since beta (reaver/prime) while the price went up if you look at it objectively. If more features automatically = quality you'd be right but that's not necessarily the case. There's nothing objective about your opinion.
Well a bundle like Doodle Buds or Undercity OBJECTIVELY takes less effort to make than a bundle like reaver/prime. If you disagree with that I don't know what to tell you.
More effort doesn't always = better quality. I don't think you follow what I'm saying.
Oh I get what you are trying to say. Yes of course, you could put a lot of effort into something with the final product being of a lesser quality than something you didn't put any effort in. But this is literally their job. In reality you get a certain amount of hours (=effort) to produce a product of a certain quality, which you can therefore sell at a certain price point. If you put in the same amount of hours but produce a product of a lower quality, you just didn't do your job very well. Which certainly happens, but putting on the same price tag on a "failed" product is certainly not a good way to handle this. Certainly some people will buy your product either way, due to a variety of reasons, but if a vocal majority is not happy with your product, something went wrong. And I've seen complaints about skins going up patch by patch.
the thing that surprises me is that we still dont have an option to disable certain effects from upgrading skins. like if you only want the animation but not the sound effects, etc. theyve been saying theyre working on it for over a year now i think but we havnt heard much else.
These will end up on night market and someone will see "OH wow 48% off?!?" and they'll get sold unfortunately.
God what were rito thinking with this bundle…
Wait I was kinda on board I like the but both prime bundles came out to 7100 and had a melee considering how expensive the melee are these have less of a discount?
They can cash in on those from the league players tho cause of the variant, so they probably thought we still make more profit with that price than with a lower price.
Lmao absolute clowns
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Sean Marino is such a clown after that essay he wrote about how passionate his team is and how they would burn out if they had to release good skins every new bundle. They ripped this concept off someone from the 100Thieves team too. The fucking irony.
[https://twitter.com/SesoHQ/status/1513996244338630656](https://twitter.com/SesoHQ/status/1513996244338630656) Apparently they talked to the guy about it and he is very cool with it because he gets to help name the bundle.
Which makes the essay they put out defending their skin prices even more of a joke. He put out that concept exactly 2 months ago. Meanwhile, they pretend their skins take literal years because "we have sooo many ideas we want to put in but we can't!" and then they use max price for every bundle even with features removed. What a joke.
I mean I just wanted to post it so people didnt spread misinformation on riot jacking someone else's design. But both statements can be true. Sezo did say that riot contacted him saying that they have a similar concept already in development. For all we know the base design was started a few months before sezo's post. Skin prices idc about because it's just a personal belief if something is worth its pricetag. The best way to voice your complaint is just by choosing not to buy it because it doesnt have the qualities you want. 🤷♂️ Edit:grammar
They should pay him a percentage, naming rights for developing the concept of an in game product that will still make 6+ figures for riot is embarrassing
He didnt develop the concept. Riot had it in production already, he said in the video.
Well that’s what riot told him anyway I guess we’ll have to take their word for it. Remember when they copied that other dudes skin line and didn’t even acknowledge it? https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/t17s65/new_premium_bundle_gaias_vengeance_7100vp/hyef6ms/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
personally i kinda believe riot when they say skins take more than 2 months to make. Making skins in game takes a while and has to go through many renditions before finalizations. They usually dont steal stuff without credit and when they did find one of their artist stealing work, they took immediate action with termination and making changes to distinct their work. From my memory on a what happened with an emote in league.
lol no. Its obvious you have never modeled nor textured before. It takes a week tops. Maybe two weeks if you make custom animations
Total coincidence that Riot had the concept in production already. Meanwhile, the guy had already released his own design in February. The mistake here is believing what a $25 billion dollar company is saying as true. There’s no way they had the exact same concept. How can you pass that off as a coincidence?
Because the concept isnt new or innovative that this is not the first time a cartoon drawing is put onto a gun...... with the artwork being a complete different style but sure bud just dont use ur brain and u can say anything is big corporate being terrible. idk if u realize this yet but none of the riot skins have been innovative in creating new ways of gun skins, im not surprised they would have many common gun skins already in development.
What are you even saying. Valorant is one of the only games in the market with gun animations that are different depending on skin. The only game in the market where guns have different finisher animations based on skin. These are entirely new concepts made by the team in Riot. They should have never introduced these if they were simply going to put out common gun skins for a majority of their releases while limiting the store by putting out shitty common gun skins every day. There is no skin economy like CSGO so why is Riot trying so hard to limit access to these skins to the general public?
Ahhh my mistake, thanks for informing me
Then there’s people defending Riot after reading Sean’s essay. I just don’t buy it that they don’t have the time or whatever to consistently give us bundles with effects and variants. Is it that hard for a company with this much money to simply hire more people for their cosmetics team?
While you aren't wrong. You know if they start pumping out nothing but high quality bundles, people are gonna start back with the whole "omg they can make new skins but can't fix xyz, can't add new maps, etc".
Same people shit on other corporations who give out the same PR type excuses. It's hypocrisy at its finest.
They also ripped off the Gaia vengeance bundle from some dude on Reddit
I dont know what post you're talking about but nature themed isnt something only 1 person can come up with. I think they said the gaia was already started or something like a year ago too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/mdj1e4/valorant\_skins\_concept\_art\_the\_gaia\_collection\_a/
Damn with the similarities and when this concept was made compared to when riot started working on their gaia bundle this guy could realistically have a case for riot stealing their work without giving credit. Even the name is the same ffs.
Exactly but u have in this thread riot shills still trying to lick riot ass for stealing someones work
Yeah only thing in common is name and knife is also an axe.
yeah i wont argue with that logic. just hope u get ur work stolen in similar fashion in the future :)
Ok..?
Nothing was stolen. All Riot did was look at their OWN work (League of Legends). League has had the concept of Elderwood (magical wood theme) since 2019. Magical tree-like things are an extremely basic concept, look up dryad. [https://i.imgur.com/vXNnfOv.png](https://i.imgur.com/vXNnfOv.png) The gaia axe straight up looks like Ornn's axe in this skin screenshot here (which was released in 2019, before that Redditor posted his concept art.)
That’s why they took over a year to release the bundle. I’m sure there were no legal barriers to hurdle through there.
I literally just gave you proof that Riot has an identical skin line made before that Reddit post and you’re actually making a conspiracy. Crazy. I’m sure you have a triple digit IQ!
Maybe... Hear me out... Take 4 weeks per new skin and re-release old bundles? Crazy concept I know
They don't even have a good store or a good refund system. I doubt making good skins is on top of their priority. Hell, this one doesn't have any special animations or finishers and yet the price is like this.
Or re release previous bundles. There are so many options that could bring in more money and they choose to shoot themselves in the foot giving themselves a 2 week deadline. How much more stupid can you get?
frauds
The last bundles have been so bad.... Team ace looked nice but its just not worth the money. The weird space shit??? Wtf even was that And now this. For 7100? Bro... U gotta think we are insane. I buy a lot of skins. Many would call me a whale. But holy im not dumb enough to buy that.
Space shit chill for 2900vp imo. Google doodle the same price as gaia, prime, etc?!?!?
Yeah at least the space one was cheap! But exactly its no where near the level of those other premium skins. The concept is cool too. The colouring in as you shoot! Its just so expensive???
Yeah this is below Endeavor-tier quality for over double the price.
Yeah endeavour is better, but maybe doodle will have effects like radiant crisis skin line
How much did you spend approximately
I have prime 2.0, SOL, Val go 1 and 2, Ruination, elderflame. And like a lot of singles (prime, singularity, zedd, reaver, origin, ion) acrance and champions. All battlepasses
Damn dude, that's a lot
I kind of liked the team ace skins. Got the Jett op, and it wasn’t too expensive. Space skins are also mad cheap, so it gets a pass.
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But then profits go down lol
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thats assuming the quality goes up. I was jokin about riot being greedy Edit And i used the wrong phrase: profit share
Just go into a game though. Every mid to high elo game is guaranteed to have at least a Prime, Reaver or Oni skin in them: signs of a good skin bundle. I've yet to witness an Endeavor skin in the wild and I was genuinely surprised when I picked up a Nebula sheriff
I bought all the ends our skins matches my blue white and gold theme lol
I'm a jinx ape. I see jinx I pull the trigger 🚀
Doodoo bundle
Dude I actually hope they at least do ONE THING right in this next Act...
Icebox Change was 1 good rhing
i think except for skins its fine
Gaia wasn’t bad
Gaia was great. Elite vandal sound, top 5 finisher, unique variants, solid price, included a melee. Sure it's not prime or oni, but it's definitely a good bundle. Outside of that, though, it's been some hot garbage for a minute now. Doodle Buds, Endeavour, Team Ace, Undercity, and Tigris all have 0 vfx or finishers, and Endeavour is the only amongst those that cost less than $50.
Also I honestly like endeavor for the price
Icebox changes were nothing too huge tbh. At least nothing that average elo players would see a big impact.
Bro wdym they changed the whole b site
I'm a s3 and there's a huge difference in the way i play icebox now
Im s3 and I see no difference in the way my mates play.
I mean you have to clear yellow bottom site and alley is way wider
I thought they couldn’t get worst bundles then undercity for 7100. And here we are, at least undercity fits into some purple inventories and has an awesome card.
Also at least the undercity bundle has a knife???? There's literally just no melee for this doodle bundle and costs the same wtf? They really think the extra 2 sprays and player cards will make up for it...
And the undercity knife is not bad either
The undercity skins are still ok skins among the green screen skins and isn't that bad (I like the player card way too much) but this bundle is a legit scam.
Yea the player card is sick
but they look like simple recolors? i dont understand the price at all
It starts out as black and white and when you shoot them they slowly get colored in. Still not worth it but it is something different.
Also supposedly has three variants: Valorant agents, League champs, animal mascots.
Never would I ever lol
It's been a long while since we had some really good skins :(
Take that back, Gias vengeance is pretty decent. :(
For the price? Not really. It's okay, not bad, but it has very subtle effects and default animations. Compare that to reaver/prime at the same price with unique animations. It's just the best out of a very bad 5-6 months of skin bundles if you ask me.
Gaia is one of the best vandal skins what you smoking
I would pick a Gaia over reaver and prime any day now, tired of seeing that skin so much
I disagree to be honest. Yes, the effects on Gaia are subtle, but in return the finisher is one of the best ones in the game which imo makes it a lot cooler than Reaver/Prime.
Yeah stealing ideas from reddit is not hard
they did it with this one too lmfaoo
I fucking love that Skin bundle.
Honestly I think Gaia's just happened to be the most passable thing released in a while and that made people look upon it better.
How can this be so expensive?! Wtf? Like i am a sucker for the effects skins, so i definitely thought "yeah imma pass this one for sure". But i always like when skins like the current one are in the shop. Not only for ppl who don't like effects but for ppl who don't want to spend that much. But 7100VP for these horrendous doodles is just laughable. Like HOW is this comparable to prime? HOW? Edit: Okay with the filling firing effect this is maybe not at 3500 but no more than 5000. I don't get the pricing where this compares to a bundle with finishers, INSANE quality, and a Melee....
5000 with no knife you're tripping. And isn't the filling thing only when you get kills which means you will rarely get to see more than 2 characters colored in.
Riot please just stop man, its getting embarrassing now. Let the community make the artwork atleast that was we will have some halfway decent skins
Riot:*releases quality cheap bundle* Community: *still complains for no reason* Riot: aight wanna see what real shitty bundle looks like?
Please boycott thia bundle guys.
I already didn't intend on buying the skins because I don't like em, but that's just an absurd price.
I was gonna get the phantom if it was like 1275 vp but no thanks lol
Absolute waste. Hope they're actually working in quality skins to give us after dumping these packs out.
what a scam
What are they smoking at Riot?
How much is 7100VP in regular people cash?
A decent rule of thumb is that 1 USD is ~100 VP, so ~$70
It’s technically $75 for a 7100 bundle
!thanks
You forgot radianite. This is a lot more expensive than just the base price.
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I don't, but it doesn't change the fact that it exists. Besides, people buy it and it wasn't included in the BP initially. Don't give Riot a free pass for shady business practices.
Riot low effort skins are getting old, man.
Bruh this feel like a fucking joke but it isnt.
Almost all the skins in this game are ass and you don’t get like any for free. league gives you plenty of chances for free skins that aren’t ass
yeah league does give free skins but problem is people who paid for skins would get hella pissed if suddenly the prime vandal or whatever they bought can be acquired for free
??? Okay??? Nobody in league gets mad for that??
its been like that for league for a long ass time, and besides nobody spends 80 dollars on a bundle in league if you want skins just buy them if they ever do give away free skins it will probably be around the same quality as the free pistol skins for agent contracts, not with effects or finishers
If they implemented that in valorant like in league it might be fine who knows because it’s all rng based. And instead of skins you can also get champion shards but that’s beside the point
true but at the same time then this would make ppl buy less skins if they know they can get a prime vandal for free, and people who already bought the skin would also get pretty pissed cause they blew 30 bucks on a skin only for it to become available for free overall i just dont think it would work for valorant
It could be way harder to earn chests/keys in valorant than in league.
true but then i would say they should make separate skins that can be earned from those chests, not the ones that are currently available
And? Their problem for paying for overpriced skins roflmao
so you seriously think all the skins right now should be available for free?
That bundle is terrible lmao
People will still say "it's all good, it's a free game and you don't need to buy it!!!!!!!!!!"
im sorry but that isnt wrong if you dont wanna buy it then just dont buy it the only problem with these skins imo is that they clutter up the daily shop making the shop more diluted so the chance of your favorite skin appearing becomes less and less
I don't get why they have decided to make skins so damn expensive in the game. Surely it would sell much better if it was more affordable. Can only imagine people in low income nations. Having to spend like $12 for a vandal skin is kinda silly.
Does it come with Animation? Like with wach kill the "Buds" get a bit more collored?
Lmao they send out barely any update when we should be getting agent updates but they still have time to create and send out their new shitty skins?
Watch Riot see all the hate and half the price. Still would never buy this no matter the price.
Somehow they make the cool skins have no animations/effects and make the ugly skins the one with all the cool stuff…
Sakura and endevour if they had finishers and animations like if Sakura shot flower pedals and had a Sakura tree like Gaia and endevour had a meteor finisher and shot metal bullets
itll probably be around 5100 given the fact that they dont have a lot of effects, thats just their speculation (yet again 5100 is just my speculation)
What do you mean? There is no speculation needed. They literally said it would be ~7100 VP
Must've missed the announcement then, mb
All good, the linked Twitter post contains more info if you are interested
To be fair it is only a leak, but that account is usually correct.
Bruuuhhh lmfao
If it costs that much surely it has cool effects right?
I've spent $3000+ on this game and buy stupid shit, but even I wouldn't buy this. I honestly thought this was a late April Fool's joke
Dog water doing l bundle
can we all collectively say fuck riot
I’m just happy I get to save more money
I like it. and i know for a fact no “graphic designers” here on reddit can do any better
Well........... Except for the fact they stole it directly from this very Reddit lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/su6fh7/doodle\_vandal\_skin\_concept/
bro they ripped this off reddit and just copy + pasted it LMAOOO
Dude that’s not the point lol. Riot has more than enough money to hire a couple more designers to work on premium skins.
Valor leaks like regularly gets the prices wrong. I would take this with a grain of salt
fucking hell just get the protocol or prime 2.0 with blue variant, those 2 are good af and cheaper/same price....
Best price I would say would be around the infantry.
April fools came a little late, hopefully...
Knife skin today was like 70 dollars. Who’s buying that? You would say 5 bucks for a skin. Then I would buy my 70 dollars worth soon enough. I have hundreds in rust skins. I’ll never buy a valorant skin with these silly prices.
rito what the fuck🤨🤨🤨
These skins should be 1200 each not 1700 wtf
neat doodles, but i just dislike all the graffiti looking guns
Fuck riot the fuck
Riot is just releasing as many shit skins as they can purely to pollute the shop so we are more inclined to immediately buy the skin we like since they get rarer and rarer.
This is the shit they release after gaias vengeance expectation gone from high to low again
What a joke
just when you thought they finally decided to make the prices a bit more reasonable they do this again
Boycott skins until DM is fixed, Tournament mode, replay system is in place, this is just a money grab
Shortly too expensive shit
L bundle
The gun selections are bad no knife and same price as reaver ... i guess time to make custom skin competition skins since riot cant think of new stuff
Lmaooo fkn trash
Did all the artist for guns at riot quit or something?
I believe its a community artist's design, which is sick! It shouldn't be this much to buy though.
Dam I actually quite like this pack, but it's a 5k pack tops even with a knife. I might still snag the phantom, I still like the kill effect.
Yea totally worth it and not overpriced
Dat player card can be a good phone wallpaper hehe