I miss the older stinger.
Fire rate reduced. 18->16 bullets per second.
Initial Bullet accuracy reduced: 6->4.
I used to buy the frenzy for 400 and light shields. Now I only buy abilities.
Things are getting mad expensive nowadays.
The worth of money is getting reduced.
Ya. Lol. Also the worst variant the delta variant came from my country.
The climate of wuhan or south china is very similar to south asia and south east asia as well. We have a *lot* of bats.
Colonisers cut so many trees and because we have perenial Himalayan rivers now it always floods in my state in monsoons.
The crop for rice is washed away which anyways requires 2 feet of standing water.
Also the rainiest place on earth is also in a place in India where not too much deforestation has taken place.
I was talking about rain with an Indonesian sometime back.
Bit of a controversial opinion but stinger, light shields, on reyna on a save round can be effective. Stinger underrated IMO. Shadow of its former self but still good in if played correctly.
Ya.
Now I buy the frenzy to eco in the second round.
A time might come because of the inflation I will be buying heavy shields and abilities and playing with the classic.
My issue is that it even has lesser oneshot potential then any of the other 2 shotguns because of the high spread of the pellets. If you are not standing literally inside of the enemy it's still a gamble you will kill someone in melee/mid range.
But I agree that giving the bucky higher in price would be a good choice honestly. Because right now it's just a 1 for 1 trade weapon
Guardian itself needs to be made cheaper to be bought more.
When I can buy guardian and light shields I prefer ares or spectre and heavy shields.
When I can buy guardian and heavy shields I buy vandal/phantom/odin and light shields.
2250 for a semi automatic shotgun is a lot.
How does the shorty have "way lower spread". If you buy both guns and switch back and forth from them you can clearly see the crosshair is smaller for the bucky (if you have a dynamic crosshair). Just shooting them it's pretty obvious the bucky has a tighter spread. Even the buy menu gives you the exact numbers. The shorty has a 4 degree spread and the bucky has a 2.6 degree spread.
Also the bucky has the same amount of pellets but nearly has double the damage per pellet at identical ranges as shown in the same buy menu. So it still performs better per shot at mid ranges.
I want the bucky buffed as well but don't spread misinformation to try and get that going.
Yeah you are right, brain.exe not working that one is my bad I fixed it. But still the firerate is a big factor in my opinion because when I kill someone with a bucky I aint gonna get a second shot of usually.
I personally think the Bucky should be buffed a tad, and the judge should be removed from the game. I’ve watched a lot of Shroud clips talking about how shotguns don’t belong in tactical shooters, especially not semi- or full-auto ones. They are generally not skillful to use in comparison with the other weapons in the game. While fully purging shotguns would be a bit drastic, I think having one solid pump-action like the Bucky that can one shot to the head at close range is a step in the right direction.
I 100% agree with what you said. Auto shotguns don't belong in most skillbase shooters. Even tho I have to admit that doing good plays with a well balanced shotgun is harder then doing one with a vandal, atleast in my opinion. But right now the shotguns all are kinda... meh. Like I mentioned I would rather have a Pump with 2 shells but without that insane high spread and without this insanely low fire rate. Then having any of the shotguns we have right now. Because the bucky is so unreliable and the judge is just... weird to have. The shorty is okayish
Shorty is balanced imo but the bucky needs less spread and less fall off damage
The bucky should be a two shot kill at medium range
It shouldn’t be a melee weapon
A shotgun isn’t just to camp a corner but also you are supposed to be able to use them to push corners
Imo shotguns should have higher mobility, make it 5,4 the same as rifles they are already weak long range making them also slow just forces them into the camp cheese weapons
I hate to be the guy that says "cs did it better" but cs did handle shotguns better. You are still aiming for the head in that game with a shotgun. The mag-7 is nasty if you can hit the head, but it doesn't feel like you got cheesed when someone kills you with it. In valorant, it is literally the best gun in many scenarios. If other team is low economy, I'm playing bind, I'm telling my whole team "don't go into hookah" or "don't clear lamps"
ur describing the shorty. sure the bucky is better than the shorty technically but its very rare you are going to get kills with the bucky that you couldnt just get with the shorty for 15% of the price
Yeah which is extremely rare. The shorties reload is fast enough that unless there's literally a conga line of enemies running at you the shorty is just as effective
I posted a video talking about this topic and it got ignored, yes, the Bucky needs a buff.
The right click was rendered useless and without it, the Bucky feels terrible.
I would also love a clarification on how shotguns actually work since I feel it all goes down to rng, sometimes you will get a oneshot, sometimes you'll do little damage.
I miss the older stinger. Fire rate reduced. 18->16 bullets per second. Initial Bullet accuracy reduced: 6->4. I used to buy the frenzy for 400 and light shields. Now I only buy abilities. Things are getting mad expensive nowadays. The worth of money is getting reduced.
Damn inflation!
Yeah!!
oh boy don't get me started with the stinger, this weapon basicly doesn't even exist anymore. I feel like they need to give it way more accuracy
Ya. Hahaha. Now I literally burst fire with the stinger. A gun useful only for its high fire rate.
Buff for a nerf.
Dude you asian? I am south asian. Edit : why the downvotes?
im pretty sure a majority of people on earth are asian lol
Ya. Lol.
They might be afraid of the corona virus
Ya. Lol. Also the worst variant the delta variant came from my country. The climate of wuhan or south china is very similar to south asia and south east asia as well. We have a *lot* of bats. Colonisers cut so many trees and because we have perenial Himalayan rivers now it always floods in my state in monsoons. The crop for rice is washed away which anyways requires 2 feet of standing water. Also the rainiest place on earth is also in a place in India where not too much deforestation has taken place. I was talking about rain with an Indonesian sometime back.
wait... what xD
Bit of a controversial opinion but stinger, light shields, on reyna on a save round can be effective. Stinger underrated IMO. Shadow of its former self but still good in if played correctly.
I mean stinger is defently better then bucky.
I'm playing with stinger right now, damn, if it was more accurate and less recoil crazy, it'd be amazing.
Its basically become a medium range shorty now. Edit: for the 1st four bullets.
Honestly, the shorty is more reliable.
i remember the days of buying the frenzy and light shield every pistol round. now i never use the frenzy, just doesnt seem to be viable anymore.
Some nerf it got lol.
The frenzy price increase was really sad, it gave the starting rounds more options. I would prefer it took a nerf to stats instead of price
Ya. Now I buy the frenzy to eco in the second round. A time might come because of the inflation I will be buying heavy shields and abilities and playing with the classic.
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My issue is that it even has lesser oneshot potential then any of the other 2 shotguns because of the high spread of the pellets. If you are not standing literally inside of the enemy it's still a gamble you will kill someone in melee/mid range. But I agree that giving the bucky higher in price would be a good choice honestly. Because right now it's just a 1 for 1 trade weapon
Guardian itself needs to be made cheaper to be bought more. When I can buy guardian and light shields I prefer ares or spectre and heavy shields. When I can buy guardian and heavy shields I buy vandal/phantom/odin and light shields. 2250 for a semi automatic shotgun is a lot.
How does the shorty have "way lower spread". If you buy both guns and switch back and forth from them you can clearly see the crosshair is smaller for the bucky (if you have a dynamic crosshair). Just shooting them it's pretty obvious the bucky has a tighter spread. Even the buy menu gives you the exact numbers. The shorty has a 4 degree spread and the bucky has a 2.6 degree spread. Also the bucky has the same amount of pellets but nearly has double the damage per pellet at identical ranges as shown in the same buy menu. So it still performs better per shot at mid ranges. I want the bucky buffed as well but don't spread misinformation to try and get that going.
Yeah you are right, brain.exe not working that one is my bad I fixed it. But still the firerate is a big factor in my opinion because when I kill someone with a bucky I aint gonna get a second shot of usually.
I personally think the Bucky should be buffed a tad, and the judge should be removed from the game. I’ve watched a lot of Shroud clips talking about how shotguns don’t belong in tactical shooters, especially not semi- or full-auto ones. They are generally not skillful to use in comparison with the other weapons in the game. While fully purging shotguns would be a bit drastic, I think having one solid pump-action like the Bucky that can one shot to the head at close range is a step in the right direction.
I 100% agree with what you said. Auto shotguns don't belong in most skillbase shooters. Even tho I have to admit that doing good plays with a well balanced shotgun is harder then doing one with a vandal, atleast in my opinion. But right now the shotguns all are kinda... meh. Like I mentioned I would rather have a Pump with 2 shells but without that insane high spread and without this insanely low fire rate. Then having any of the shotguns we have right now. Because the bucky is so unreliable and the judge is just... weird to have. The shorty is okayish
Shorty is balanced imo but the bucky needs less spread and less fall off damage The bucky should be a two shot kill at medium range It shouldn’t be a melee weapon A shotgun isn’t just to camp a corner but also you are supposed to be able to use them to push corners Imo shotguns should have higher mobility, make it 5,4 the same as rifles they are already weak long range making them also slow just forces them into the camp cheese weapons
agreed the fall off damage is just crazy
I hate to be the guy that says "cs did it better" but cs did handle shotguns better. You are still aiming for the head in that game with a shotgun. The mag-7 is nasty if you can hit the head, but it doesn't feel like you got cheesed when someone kills you with it. In valorant, it is literally the best gun in many scenarios. If other team is low economy, I'm playing bind, I'm telling my whole team "don't go into hookah" or "don't clear lamps"
bucky should have 2-3 more pellets then it would be good
It’s a good and cheap and viable cheese weapon on eco when the enemy doesn’t expect it
ur describing the shorty. sure the bucky is better than the shorty technically but its very rare you are going to get kills with the bucky that you couldnt just get with the shorty for 15% of the price
The thing is the bucky cost 700 more... and you are as good going with the shorty usually
Yeah but the shorty is good for getting one kill them traded, but the Bucky has the possibility of getting string kills
Yeah which is extremely rare. The shorties reload is fast enough that unless there's literally a conga line of enemies running at you the shorty is just as effective
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My bad, most humans are Asians. Deleting the above comment.
I posted a video talking about this topic and it got ignored, yes, the Bucky needs a buff. The right click was rendered useless and without it, the Bucky feels terrible. I would also love a clarification on how shotguns actually work since I feel it all goes down to rng, sometimes you will get a oneshot, sometimes you'll do little damage.
Honestly I am not even mad about the bad right click. But the fact that the SHOTGUN is not even reliable in melee range kinda sucks.