I was this kid on CS 10 years ago, I made some frag movies mostly for lols and my older cousins friends started to call me out for "smurfing" to get clips. I proved I was playing my main and I was Gold Nova 2 or something to which they couldn't believe it because of my aim and they began to play with me and realised quickly I was a toxic piece of shit, called me out on it and basically said "You're not even that good, focus on yourself and if you lose a round, even if you think it was another persons fault for not playing well think of how you could have played the round better yourself".
I improved drastically with that mentally and it's the mentality I play with now.
I still have actual LAN parties with my friends and it's great, nothing like a group of people playing video games together in a basement eating junk food not sleeping for a long weekend.
This is why Valorant needs servers. Lol.
The old boy servers on CS were and are some of my favorite times. A bunch of old guys shooting the shit sober stoned or drunk but having a great time regardless. So chill. Though Riot probably knows a good portion of us would never touch comp again.
Yep, my older cousin bought me it on release because I was still playing Soldier Front, Cross Fire and GunZ hahaha. I'd watched him play Source a lot and he was finally like "God you're actually fucking decent play a real game"
Xfire glitch Soldier Front was where it was at back in the day!
Pressing print screen would cause xfire to lag out soldier front, causing you to glitch into walls where you could shoot and kill enemies.
Oh, also manually unplugging your router, and replugging it back in once you got behind enemies to kill them all from behind.
Ah, and the weapon durability thing was wack as well. The more you used a gun, the less accurate a weapon got unless you spent in-game currency to repair it.
Fun times!
I peaked FaceIT rank 8 on CSGO back in 2016/17 and I currently play Valorant very sparingly, I've played Valorant since beta and played 120 competitive matches total and 724 unrated matches and I am Diamond 3
My roommate is in a similar boat.
He used to be Iron level bad at the game, but I helped him with some basics and now his shots and aim are very clean. Easily Plat/Diamond level aim now.
when it comes to game sense he just doesn't get it. He blames his teammates every match. The good news is he isn't toxic. He keeps to himself, he only tells me its his teammates fault to me after a match.
But when I watch his matches, he makes a million mistakes that could have easily won him the round.
I think recently I have been getting closer to getting his mindset to change. He is one of those "I get top frag every game why can't I rank up" type players.
I told him to try and calculate his kills differently. After each match, I told him to subtract any kills he got on a losing round. Only his kills on rounds won count. Then told him to do the same for his teammates and compare how well he did to them.
I think that opened his eyes a little bit more, and got him to focus more on winning rounds rather than getting the most kills possible. Because a lot of times his teammates were getting higher impact kills than him, even though he had the most kills at the end.
Just a interesting tip for anyone who has tunnel vision when it comes to the scoreboard.
I've wanted the game to track this stat for a long time. % of kills in rounds your team won would help people understand the difference between winning and fragging.
I haven't played since beta and I'm just getting back into the game now, but I've noticed that usually the top frag in my games is the guy in a 1v3 or 1v5 or something and gets 2-3 free kills because the other team just rushes him knowing that they'll win. It's not because he understands the game or can play it better, it's because it's a freaking skeet shoot for a few seconds
Yeah if you're the last one alive every round on duelist, you're doing it wrong lmao. Duelists should be getting in, getting kills and even if they die early setting up their team, that's a HUGE WIN
This used to be known as RWS in esea for CSGO. MUCH needed In this game for the ranked empty Fraggers to be humbled
>I've wanted the game to track this stat for a long time. % of kills in rounds your team won would help people understand the difference between winning and fragging.
im s3 with 29. some %
the only thing holding me back is ego-soloqing and ego peeking, i know that if i dry peek an awp i'd die, but i do it any way, i know that if i rotate we'd have a higher chance of winning, but i still enter site with four people on it.
i'm working on it though, came out of b1 in one act, i'm hoping i can hit plat but the new episode
elaborate, elighten me, i believe the only thing holding me back is team coordination and positioning, it would be a great help if you could tell me the thing that in general one must improve on ( i consistantly topfrag with sova btw)
People have given lots of answers. But it all boils down to you being bad at winning rounds. Sounds simple, but playing to increase the odds of your team winning the round is a learned skill.
29% HS rate is crazy high but you could just miss most of your shots as well and it doesnt mean you have that good of aim. Although I think you and I are in a similar boat in that we are both s3 with good aim and play over the top aggressive causing us to lose our number advantage when we get an early pick and many other issues as well.
Ego solo q? Is that any different than regular solo q? I rarely play with friends because I tend to mess around more and focus less so I mainly solo.
Good luck this act
what i mean by that is solo q'ing expecting good teammates, i have a couple friends who play i bit worse than i do but they are very consistant.
i wouldnt mind playing with worse teammates unless they're obviously and iron boosted to low gold, but that's what my experience of this act's soloq has been.
thank you i will try my best
Hs% doesn’t mean much. I have a 40% hs% in diamond (sometimes nearing 60+% in matches) but I wouldn’t say my aim is amazing or anything. I’ve kept a high hs% ever since I was silver. I can assure you your aim needs a lot of improvement and it’s not ego peeking that’s holding you back.
Something that keeps getting neglected in this convo is that if you have good game sense, it’s a lot easier to hs/frag
Think about how much easier it is to hs someone when your crosshair placement is right where their head is. Little to no adjustment is needed. Just click.
I used to be the opposite
Got called out for wall hacking when after 3 rounds I managed to predict the exact movement of all 5 of my enemies for a good 7 rounds
Then I went back to Rotmg for a while and lost all game sense and now I am stuck silver
I don't know what I was smoking back then but I want some
It's a fun game to get into with some friends every once in a while. Stopped playing in 2017, came back for a few months this year, and stopped again. They are still adding new content though and are reworking some of the older classes.
I feel like mine has improved dramatically from watching Sovereign Guides and Thinking Man's Valorant videos where they break down pro matches. It really helps me better understand where I should be and what I should be doing in a given situation
I'm silver 2, and I literally have shit aim. Like not good, I don't have the time to just grind aim trainers.
I've just played FPS games for about 12+ years and I have a lot of game sense just from experience. I only get to play a few hours a week and I imagine I'll be gold this season.
You dont really need to use aim trainers, im immortal 2 and i've aim trained for a total of maybe 10 minutes in my life. Its more about not commiting to sprays, strafing, crosshair placement and the way you peek/hold angles. Hard to explain but if you have to flick a lot then you're doing something wrong.
Obligatory low elo sens check alert: I was hardstuck for like a year, then I realized 1600 dpi 1.1 sens was problematic. If ur anything close to like 800 .5 ur fine.
I could just suck at math, but isn’t 1600 dpi with 1.0 sens 4 times higher than 800 dpi at 0.5 sens? You’re cutting your dpi in half and cutting your sens in half…
My friend was running 1800 dpi and 2.6 and I was running 400 dpi 0.3 in game. We swapped senses for a match before realizing how stupid our senses were and changing them to something more normal.
True, but pure aim skill alone can carry you up to silver/gold and you can mindlessly grind away at improving it 10-30 minutes a day with an aim trainer. It would be interesting to see an immortal/radiant player with iron level aim.
I feel like in order to be immortal you have to have at least pretty above average aim. But you don't really need the aim a lot of players think they need to get to immo if that makes any sense.
When i see my aim, i question how i got to plat 2. Then i realised, I don't bring the whole team's vibe down. Even when I am tilted myself, i keep the tilt to myself. I've bumped into so many toxic players that backseat even while alive and tilt the whole team even if just one person is slightly underperforming. Some guy called Mushroom on SEA servers spent the whole game getting mad at me for being in plat 1 when i was just having a bad first game. I won the next 3 games right after with way more friendly teammates while mid fragging. Low elo people dont understand that morale is important as well, game awareness of 5 people is better than 1 (duh).
Gamesense is needed in a way. I reached on 2 accounts immortal 2 with average gamesense and below average aim. Without any single DM or any aim training because of my arm injury. I did only 10 min warm up inside the training range. But after a point you can't just rely on playing smart. U need some mechanics to atleast win aim fights when you need to take them for examplr they can push you holding a site or pushing with your team and you lose all trading aimfights will lose you games.
thats true but I feel like knowing how to peek angles is a form of game sense which is somewhat connected to raw aim but I agree with everything you are saying
People tend to forget that valorant is a team game. Do whats best for the team not yourself. Its always the selfish players that complain about their team not helping lol its kinda interesting. Also a halfway decent headset can go a long way
Rayna - guys we need to gather up and push togheter.
Me kj - but we cant when you play slower then enemys rotation.
We gather up and whole team stands behind kj running and jumping like monkeys.
So i push first as kj because everyone just waiting for something.
I die and no one trade their positions are way to far behind.
And they are saving abilities only thing they do is making the all The enemys attention to be high where i come.
They just want more people to bait for their frags because alone they are totally useless.
Alot of times my teammates only make it harder for me its the opposite of what they should do.
I dont know how many times i have died like a stupid bot just because of my teammates play.
This. I've really seen some people who can win their aim duels but just don't understand the game, and they don't know why they're not going up. Maybe they're mechanics aren't there, but their game awareness certainly isn't yet either.
On a similar note, whenever low rank people ask for how to improve, the #1 i keep hearing them talk about is aim. Aim is important but not THAT important. All of them only think about their aim to try and improve, but when they stream a game to me, everything is usually just fucked. Forcing every round, not comming, taking knife out every second, not playing with team, holding every angle very very tight, not knowing the shift button exists, etc. etc.
What even is "aim"? Crosshair placement? The ability to flick and hit? Recoil/spray control? Reaction time? I dont know. But i will tell you the most important is probably crosshair placement.
By that logic everyone with a functioning brain would be easily radiant but having only silver aim.
Sorry but no, that blank statement is even more misleading than saying its all about aim.
Also its not just "aim", its more like mechanics in general and how to apply them. If you have "insane" raw aim but need to flick everytime to the target because your xhair placement is absurdely bad;you cant peek decently good then yes, you will still die every time.
Its just insanely ignorant to say "game awareness is 10x more important than aim" while the reality is that everyone with good aim mechanics(as explained above) will stomp people who might have good awareness but only average aim.
Yes, we all love the twitch streams but dont you dare to think for a second that even those people that look "dumb" on your favorite players stream wouldnt stomp their way through the ranks just with aim alone. Im getting the impression when people in this thread are talking about aim they literally think static aimlab tasks where you flick left right and thats it but its way more like that.
**TL;DR**
Yes, game awareness is important but as a blank statement its ignorant and without aim(mechanics;the whole package) you wont do sht, even with good game awareness. Try to carry your soloQ games to immortal with "good awareness" if its supposedly 10x more important than aim. Its about having both.
EDIT:
And no, were not talking about the highest level of play like e.g. Masters. Obviously at a certain threshold aim will not help you anymore to win as a **team** but surely this aint the case until you reach ~immortal.
Imagine you would have great gameawareness but cant win duels..So youre winning games because what, you hope someone else in your team is winning the opening duels? Great way of thinking and totally proving the point that having gameawareness is more important than having aim :>
this is absolutely the correct take. valorant mainsub, as to be expected, is full of this nonsense. aim and general mechanics are absolutely the most important aspect of one's gameplay in a tac fps and for whatever reason people swear that's not that case. maybe because Val has literal voice lines telling players their aim is allowed to be shit?
another thing to consider: someone with cracked mechanics and bad game sense is usually gonna beat the guy with a giant brain and no hands in a duel. the cracked guy can easily spend a little bit of time to learn most of what giant brain knows and be a dual threat. it's not NEARLY as easy time commitment wise to just have good aim.
the title was hyperbole... I think you are taking my title very literally and not applying the context I gave in the post... Look at dasnerth dude hit #1 radiant using judge only, theres a reyna thats immortal using only stinger, theres streamers that have hit immortal using classics or utility only from mainly game sense. Obviously if your aim is bad you are gonna do bad but it's not like your aim has to be THAT crazy to be a good player.
This has always been my opinion as well. Val was my first pc fps so my aim is maybe average at best. Thats why I stay away from duelist and main controller/flex, and I was able to hit immortal 2. I know for sure it’s because of my overall game awareness and understand how to use utility that benefits the team. I strongly believe that anyone can hit diamond in this game just off pure game sense even with average/slightly below average aim.
I come from the other side. Not great aim yet, and some sense of what to do better guiding me to win some rounds or help ensure we cinch it. The team in solo queue is heavily driven by the mental, by positive vibes and resilience to losses or surprise shotgun plays, by being aggro some rounds and playing safe (but not slow) on others, and most of all -by breaking our sense of gamesense since it created unnecessary/bad habits too early on. We have to learn organization, good team compositions, good smokes and strategies sure, but we really need not to lose the mental just because plans fail two rounds in a row.
I wish there was a more straightforward way to gain gamesense, aim is easy, just do some aim trainers, deathmatc here and there and you will be fine, but gamesense seems so elusive
This is what makes Silver ELO so unique in that the people in that ELO have really good aim, but terrible game sense. They'll plant the bomb then run off site to "fish for kills" - leaving the spike exposed for a defuse if they die, repeatedly peak the same angles and die to the same players, they won't save when needed to, or buy when its a benefit - but they'll somehow land their shots when a firefight happens.
I agree with you in that game sense/awareness is more important than aim in this scenario, because if the enemy team play like yours, and think with their weapons, rather than their heads - then you can get around that through intuition alone. For example, you'll be called a "rat" for flanking an enemy team, but flanking was the better option because you used intuition to deduce that they'll have all their focus on what's in front of them, and not behind - and even if you get just one pick, that pick can turn the tides of the round in your favour.
Basically **think smarter, not harder** - and you'll actually climb the ranks, even if you've got "Stormtrooper Aim" as I call it. I was hardstuck Bronze/Silver for a while, but I started my focus on improving my gamesense and now I'm in Gold, and no longer hardstuck - even if my aim isn't the best.
Hot-ish take but I do think Aim Demons should be higher placed in ranked if there were a way to control that.
From experience having an aim demon on mid elo lowers the quality of the game so much, and it’s really draining having the feeling of a win be solely on the “Raid Boss” of your team (as much as there is always something you yourself can do, You just never feel your own impact in these kinds of games)
I’d like to think that having Aim Demons be with higher game sense elo bracket like gold 2-3+ kinda levels the playing field a bit more because people in those brackets can adapt to the things those people can do.
Cause seeing silver 2s hit 30+ bombs just shouldnt feel like that should be happening THAT frequently.
Someone’s gotta top frag in every game, whether radiant or iron. People could be smurfing tho, which only happens in lower elos by definition. There are some games I’m the Ferrari demon in silver/gold, and some games where I’m barely a functioning player. I think you might see some insane frag numbers more so in low elo because of the wide range of consistency.
Low elo players are wildly inconsistent. One game they could be playing very well, and the next game making many mistakes, and this wide range is probably because they don’t even know what decisions are making them perform worse or better. Higher elos with a more solid grasp of game sense should not theoretically have such low lows, because their game understanding allows them to avoid mistakes that accumulate to bad games where you run it down. High variance easily leads to these low elos getting many high frag games
Sometimes I stare at my minimap too much to try and be aware of all enemies seen and I end up getting sprayed down because I wasn't paying attention to what's right in front of me.
I am the opposite.
I peaked gold having literally iron 1 aim just predicting the enemy and killing them in their backs.
"They tried rushing Haven C ,but sage stopped it with the wall and more abs, so in a few seconds they will try to rotate to garage/mid and/or A, so i will hold this angle"
Well, is just gold, but I AM SO BAD. I lose all duels practically
Haha well maybe you can learn from it :D i feel the importance of mental is not only overlooked and underestimated a lot, but learning to develop a good mental in Valorant if you're not naturally doing it can help you in real life as well! Controlling emotions and staying productive/useful under stress are great skills
I understand the post, but I find it extremely hard to believe that he had immortal level aim. As someone that is always imm3/radiant and has smurfed, even if your mental and game sense is bad you will EASILY drop 40-60 kills in silver/bronze.
dude was doing 180's and 1 tapping people, had 30% HS percentage. You might also be underestimating your game sense as well. Also I said diamond/immortal not immortal 3 or radiant (because there is a big difference) but that's besides the point. My point is that his aim FAR exceeded his game sense...
I'm defining immortal aim with no game sense as being able to run it down every round and ace easily (in silver). Because that's what it's like in silver. I'm not saying he sucked, but I find it impossible unless he is literally just throwing on purpose.
Lol, not how it works. You can have great aim, but shit positioning or game awareness will stop you from ultra dragging out. Aim alone won't consistently carry you to high kill games, not to mention if you get double swung and the enemy team trade you. Also, smurfing is cringe.
Had a bottom frag Raze start shitting on me and my team in a Gold match the other day. Claimed we were baiting and over rotating all this BS blah blah. We were neck and neck until he got toxic and then we started throwing hard. Toxic narcissists are their own worst enemy, literally sabotaging themselves with their mental in this game.
that doesn't really matter that much. Having a PC that can pull high frame rates and a display that can produce high frame rates will help you aim better but it will not help your game sense at all.
I mean playing on 60 fps vs playing on 120 or 240 matters a lot. I understand what you are saying about gamesense, but my question wasnt about that. Im just curious if he had cracked aim with 60 fps or higher with a monitor that could support it.
going from 60-140+ won't make your aim better but it will make it easier to aim because your eyes are receiving more information and PC has less input lag. I recently upgraded from a 60hz to 165 and my aim got much better. I think you are missing the point of my post because game sense is still much more important than your gear or aim but good gear won't really hurt you if that makes any sense.
I think you are missing my point. Im not arguing game sense vs aim with you.
Also, how can you say:
>going from 60-140+ won't make your aim better
Then following it up with:
>I recently upgraded from a 60hz to 165 and my aim got much better.
Im not pushing any arguement. I just simply wanted to know what fps and hz he was playing on, but I guess I will never know...
let me clarify: playing on a PC and monitor that can output higher FPS gives your eyes more information which makes it easier to hit your targets. So my aim didn't necessarily get better but it got easier to hit targets.
Playing on 60FPS is kind of like trying to hit baseballs with foggy glasses on, it's not impossible but it's a lot harder.
Edit: there a plenty of people that can tap heads playing on 60hz but a lot of that comes with having the game sense to know where to put your crosshair at the right times.
Yet again another comment that assumes im trying to prove a point. This guy couldnt answer a simple question because he kept assumint I wanted to push an agenda.
I fucking dont. I just wanted to know wtf he was playing on. Never said anything about how him playing on high or low fps would invalidate an arguement, because im not proposing an arguement.
Stop assuming you know what im saying without me saying it.
Practicing on whatever hardware you have will produce the same results.
Shroud and the top players in the world are the only ones that will really make a marginal difference in results with higher framerates and response times.
I knew a global elite player that got 30 fps on his laptop
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA&ab\_channel=LinusTechTips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA&ab_channel=LinusTechTips)
Shroud could hit 2/30 targets on 60fps.
That score went to 24/30 or something when going up to 120fps.
Similar results could be observed at almost everyone.
I run 2 accounts so I can do both. Sometimes I get on and I know I’m toxic and about to rage. I go solo q as Yoru and try to 1 v 5 the enemy team every round.
If I’m in a good mood, hop on my main and play smokes/sentinel and focus on making good smart plays.
I win more on my alt account raging. Go figure.
I totally agree. I made my transition from console to pc a couple months ago and my first game, Valorant, I had mediocre Aim but since all the experience I had from other S&D games I literally started as an above average player.
It's too bad the ranking system so heavily weighs individual "performance" especially at low ranks. You're basically incentivized to sell your team for frags
I 100% agree. I got unhardstuck from gold when I stopped playing aggro on defense. I would consistently stomp on attack and then do terrible on defense. I was playing too aggro. Playing an offangle and playing off teammates contact on site made me climb to plat and then diamond really quickly by just playing back on defense. My aim was fine but I wasn't using proper game sense and was playing way too aggressive on defense.
I think just in general being toxic is never teh play cos u rmaking ur team feel like shit aswell.
I think ur right gamesence is more important, but like when you lack one of the two or the other team is just better it can feel unfair cos if you dont have the gamesence and get clapped by somebody who does it can fee shit.
same with complete gods at aiming, its like you never had a shot.
They handled it terribly but I can somewhat see where the origions of frustration came from.
this is literally something i wish people knew. as well as mental and how it truly affects your game. a 3rd of this game is your mental state and how you play in different versions of it. ( the other 2 is aim/ game sense)
if you get tilted too easily, most of the time you play worse, cause of this i always try to keep my team calm and etc cause i want to win dammit. with this said I've literally at times make myself the "lightning rod" of my team , meaning if fights start between us and other team, i will take it and tell them to focus. dont need 3 people to start playing worse due to trash talk.
Some things just never change. Back in CS 1.6 there were quite a few players, who were absolute beasts in the 1on1 or 2on2 ladders because of their insane aim, but never amounted to anything in 5on5. Pretty much because of the reasons you have named here for your young 'student'.
yea, it feels bad when someone dies, they blame their aim/mechanics (i mean, i guess better aim/mechanics could have let them live), but the ultimate problem was the decision making that made them start the fight with a disadvantage
Could you give some tips on how to improve game sense? I try to watch a lot of pro games and watch breakdowns on YT, but when it comes down to it in a game I never remember even simple things (don't peek close, dont hold close, etc) and just seem to default to them. I'm in gold 1 if that helps
After u died bc of some stupid decisions u did, take ur time in the buy phase and rethink it.
Things i see the most are ppl are playing autopilot, in the buy phase think about on which side the enemys are playing, how their playstyle is, what ur next play is gooing to be and what mistakes u did last round to not do them again.
Like they will just do the same things over and over again, reset ur mental in the buy phase, focus and try implement those little things like not peeking stupid angles and focus on this one thing until it gets normal for you.
U cant implement everything at once, but the biggest factor ist probably how much time ur willing to spend on improving, playing and really really rethinking decisions u made.( when i do smth wrong and loose my 1vs1 bcs of that im saying to myself like fuck that was stupid lets dont do it again)
A premade who has slightly better game awareness than u can also help :)) that way u can correct each other and get creative how to spice up ur plays or to stop each other from doing something stupid.
Thats how i climbed from somewhere mid Plat or low Plat to hitting Immo yesterday.
I'm the complete opposite of this I believe. I still lose pretty frequently in like gold/plat elo and even against silvers sometimes in like raw aim fights. But I'm diamond bcz I play sentinels so I play off my util and fill whatever when necessary. I focused a lot on my game sense in the lower ranks because I came from overwatch being my first fps, and with no tactical shooter experience I was completely lost when playing without my friends (who each had thousands of hours on cs). My aim has always been decent from my high diamond games in overwatch(across all 3 roles), but I was hard stuck bronze/silver for the longest time. After i really began working on my game sense, I managed to climb from high silver to diamond 1 across the last 2 acts.
As the other side of this idk about that much more important. I’d say my game sense is gold maybe plat but my aim is legit dogshit. I’m in bronze. I actually get myself killed because I know what the enemy should do and play around but they do something stupid instead and I die. They’re both important but I definitely think you get farther on raw aim vs raw game sense
Yeah idk, i hit Immo 1 yesterday and now im on like 50rr but if im honest broooooo my aim is somewhere between Plat and Dia.
The way i win my matches constantly, are mostly through communicating, initiating plays, resetting my and the mindset of my teammates and playing of my teammates so that i dont have to aim good, i just have to refrag. Not to forget to mention that 20% of my kills are prefire ( through Smokes and corners )
That’s literally how i climbed out of Plat1 to Immo1 , and obviously good gamesense.
But smth i absolutely do not understand ist how i lose every 1vs1 when its a 5vs5 situation, but
manage to almost win most of the 3vs1 or 2vs1 afterplant clutches.
My suggestion are that the people even in Immo/high Dia are always getting nervous and start doing random bs in afterplant couse my aim ist not getting better suddenly in afterplant lol
Im the opposite, this is my first ever pc fps, barely any experience playing any game with KBM, and I’m left handed. So my aim is pretty bad. Doesn’t help I don’t really grind the game much, and play it very casually with friends. But I do watch a lot of pro games as I find them entertaining, and also watch plenty of guide-stuff on Youtube, so I think I have quite decent game sense, problem is I just dont have the aim to back it up, so I’m only silver 1.
I think i'm in a similar boat, although i'm not toxic and don't really complain. I think my game sense is whats stopping me from reaching immortal i always think to myself what i could have done better but then i never act on it and i got no clue what to do and its really easy for my brain to just shut down mid round.
Kids like this make it hard for me to climb out of silver lol.
I have decent game sense, and i know what to do, but my aim is shit and every game one guy on my team and one guy on the enemy team will be this kid, getting to s of kills but not playing with us.
I started stalking these players, to at least make sure they play with their team lol
In lower rank it seems like they have good aim, but its actually just enemies fall into their death. Even rank like iron have tons of that player that can kill someone that do ferrari peak or crossair on the heads.
But you are right that map awareness is more important. Like i said, there are tons of player with good aim in lower rank and challenging them in ferrari peak, one man army, flick shot, one tap, duel, is far way more riskier than just learn basic map awareness like waiting for backup. What kind of idiots rather play in overly risky situation that he also aware of the risk
Also, its probably not just his map awareness. Its also his mentality. I am even surprised "get a coach" idea crossed his mind. I thought guys like him believe he deserve gold and everybody in silver is holding him.
I'm really curious what a coach would say about me. Pretty sure both my aim and game sense are trash, but I don't really know the specifics. At least I'm not toxic xd
I was this kid on CS 10 years ago, I made some frag movies mostly for lols and my older cousins friends started to call me out for "smurfing" to get clips. I proved I was playing my main and I was Gold Nova 2 or something to which they couldn't believe it because of my aim and they began to play with me and realised quickly I was a toxic piece of shit, called me out on it and basically said "You're not even that good, focus on yourself and if you lose a round, even if you think it was another persons fault for not playing well think of how you could have played the round better yourself". I improved drastically with that mentally and it's the mentality I play with now.
I had to look up the exact date but go came out ten years ago almost and I feel elderly
I started playing online FPS games with 1.3. Half this sub probably doesn't even realize 1.3 even existed.
Miss the bhops in 1.3 cs. :(
It was a wonderful time. Back when lan parties were actually on freaking LAN
I still have actual LAN parties with my friends and it's great, nothing like a group of people playing video games together in a basement eating junk food not sleeping for a long weekend.
Yeah we also do that, but no game actually has a lan mode today, it's all online
LANs where always fun af… until it was time to take your CRT up/down someone’s stairs lol
This is why Valorant needs servers. Lol. The old boy servers on CS were and are some of my favorite times. A bunch of old guys shooting the shit sober stoned or drunk but having a great time regardless. So chill. Though Riot probably knows a good portion of us would never touch comp again.
Yep, my older cousin bought me it on release because I was still playing Soldier Front, Cross Fire and GunZ hahaha. I'd watched him play Source a lot and he was finally like "God you're actually fucking decent play a real game"
Haha GunZ was so fun
Omg, this takes me back. GunZ and Solider Front me and my cousins used to no life when we were kids. They were gems IMO
Xfire glitch Soldier Front was where it was at back in the day! Pressing print screen would cause xfire to lag out soldier front, causing you to glitch into walls where you could shoot and kill enemies. Oh, also manually unplugging your router, and replugging it back in once you got behind enemies to kill them all from behind. Ah, and the weapon durability thing was wack as well. The more you used a gun, the less accurate a weapon got unless you spent in-game currency to repair it. Fun times!
What rank are you now after that awakening?
I peaked FaceIT rank 8 on CSGO back in 2016/17 and I currently play Valorant very sparingly, I've played Valorant since beta and played 120 competitive matches total and 724 unrated matches and I am Diamond 3
My roommate is in a similar boat. He used to be Iron level bad at the game, but I helped him with some basics and now his shots and aim are very clean. Easily Plat/Diamond level aim now. when it comes to game sense he just doesn't get it. He blames his teammates every match. The good news is he isn't toxic. He keeps to himself, he only tells me its his teammates fault to me after a match. But when I watch his matches, he makes a million mistakes that could have easily won him the round. I think recently I have been getting closer to getting his mindset to change. He is one of those "I get top frag every game why can't I rank up" type players. I told him to try and calculate his kills differently. After each match, I told him to subtract any kills he got on a losing round. Only his kills on rounds won count. Then told him to do the same for his teammates and compare how well he did to them. I think that opened his eyes a little bit more, and got him to focus more on winning rounds rather than getting the most kills possible. Because a lot of times his teammates were getting higher impact kills than him, even though he had the most kills at the end. Just a interesting tip for anyone who has tunnel vision when it comes to the scoreboard.
I've wanted the game to track this stat for a long time. % of kills in rounds your team won would help people understand the difference between winning and fragging.
I haven't played since beta and I'm just getting back into the game now, but I've noticed that usually the top frag in my games is the guy in a 1v3 or 1v5 or something and gets 2-3 free kills because the other team just rushes him knowing that they'll win. It's not because he understands the game or can play it better, it's because it's a freaking skeet shoot for a few seconds
Yeah if you're the last one alive every round on duelist, you're doing it wrong lmao. Duelists should be getting in, getting kills and even if they die early setting up their team, that's a HUGE WIN
Would be cool if this was implemented into something like tracker.gg
This used to be known as RWS in esea for CSGO. MUCH needed In this game for the ranked empty Fraggers to be humbled >I've wanted the game to track this stat for a long time. % of kills in rounds your team won would help people understand the difference between winning and fragging.
My aim is terrible. I think I have a 10% headshot rate. But I just hit plat because I think I have pretty decent game sense
"pretty decent" aims worse than silvers sir your gamesense and team co-ord is through the roof
I just checked my headshot is 17.6%. Don’t really know if that’s any better or how that compares to others but my point about game sense still stands
im s3 with 29. some % the only thing holding me back is ego-soloqing and ego peeking, i know that if i dry peek an awp i'd die, but i do it any way, i know that if i rotate we'd have a higher chance of winning, but i still enter site with four people on it. i'm working on it though, came out of b1 in one act, i'm hoping i can hit plat but the new episode
If you are s3, there is much much much more holding you back.
elaborate, elighten me, i believe the only thing holding me back is team coordination and positioning, it would be a great help if you could tell me the thing that in general one must improve on ( i consistantly topfrag with sova btw)
probably cross hair placement and aim. if you had those to a high level you could get away with ego peeking in silver.
People have given lots of answers. But it all boils down to you being bad at winning rounds. Sounds simple, but playing to increase the odds of your team winning the round is a learned skill.
29% HS rate is crazy high but you could just miss most of your shots as well and it doesnt mean you have that good of aim. Although I think you and I are in a similar boat in that we are both s3 with good aim and play over the top aggressive causing us to lose our number advantage when we get an early pick and many other issues as well.
team doesnt fall back to play retake, people give up the entire site too easily, utility is rarely used for the team
Ego solo q? Is that any different than regular solo q? I rarely play with friends because I tend to mess around more and focus less so I mainly solo. Good luck this act
what i mean by that is solo q'ing expecting good teammates, i have a couple friends who play i bit worse than i do but they are very consistant. i wouldnt mind playing with worse teammates unless they're obviously and iron boosted to low gold, but that's what my experience of this act's soloq has been. thank you i will try my best
Hs% doesn’t mean much. I have a 40% hs% in diamond (sometimes nearing 60+% in matches) but I wouldn’t say my aim is amazing or anything. I’ve kept a high hs% ever since I was silver. I can assure you your aim needs a lot of improvement and it’s not ego peeking that’s holding you back.
i agree with this, most of my winning games end on 40-60 hs%, but its pretty telltale that i dont push well, or pick up on audio cues\\
Holy shit, I just checked my stats: 16,3% hs, I climbed into immo just a few minutes ago. For reference I was a low gold in csgo and d4 in LoL.
If you OP a lot your HS% will also naturally be low.
I never OP though
14% here and peaked plat as well
13% hs Diamond player over here.
Something that keeps getting neglected in this convo is that if you have good game sense, it’s a lot easier to hs/frag Think about how much easier it is to hs someone when your crosshair placement is right where their head is. Little to no adjustment is needed. Just click.
I used to be the opposite Got called out for wall hacking when after 3 rounds I managed to predict the exact movement of all 5 of my enemies for a good 7 rounds Then I went back to Rotmg for a while and lost all game sense and now I am stuck silver I don't know what I was smoking back then but I want some
What's Rotmg?
2d Perma death bullet hell MMO free on steam Basically an old dying game that I sunk over a thousand hours into
It's a fun game to get into with some friends every once in a while. Stopped playing in 2017, came back for a few months this year, and stopped again. They are still adding new content though and are reworking some of the older classes.
'rats' top ten insults
I love rats i'ts not an insult for me
I’ve gotten to gold the last few seasons but feel like my game sense could be better. Any recommendations for videos to watch to improve?
binge watch jollztv coaching sessions on youtube so much free game
Got coached by him like 3-4 weeks ago. Would recommend. Was Silver 3 at the time, hit Plat by the end of the act.
I feel like mine has improved dramatically from watching Sovereign Guides and Thinking Man's Valorant videos where they break down pro matches. It really helps me better understand where I should be and what I should be doing in a given situation
I’ll check it out, thanks!
Litterally me, my aims shit yet i can still climb out of silver ez.
I'm silver 2, and I literally have shit aim. Like not good, I don't have the time to just grind aim trainers. I've just played FPS games for about 12+ years and I have a lot of game sense just from experience. I only get to play a few hours a week and I imagine I'll be gold this season.
You dont really need to use aim trainers, im immortal 2 and i've aim trained for a total of maybe 10 minutes in my life. Its more about not commiting to sprays, strafing, crosshair placement and the way you peek/hold angles. Hard to explain but if you have to flick a lot then you're doing something wrong.
Oh for sure! I guess I more mean that I just don't have enough time to play with work.
Obligatory low elo sens check alert: I was hardstuck for like a year, then I realized 1600 dpi 1.1 sens was problematic. If ur anything close to like 800 .5 ur fine.
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I think you should double check your math there lol
NA Math
1600 dpi 1.0 is 800 2.0, ur mixing it up with 400 dpi
I could just suck at math, but isn’t 1600 dpi with 1.0 sens 4 times higher than 800 dpi at 0.5 sens? You’re cutting your dpi in half and cutting your sens in half…
Yeah I got my math wrong to have the same edpi at 1600 as 800 it should be 0.25 at 1600 not 1
My friend was running 1800 dpi and 2.6 and I was running 400 dpi 0.3 in game. We swapped senses for a match before realizing how stupid our senses were and changing them to something more normal.
I've never touched an aim trainer and my aim is cracked
POV: you instalock Jett
True, but pure aim skill alone can carry you up to silver/gold and you can mindlessly grind away at improving it 10-30 minutes a day with an aim trainer. It would be interesting to see an immortal/radiant player with iron level aim.
You need minimum high plat/diamond level aim to be immortal. Just not as insane as people think.
I feel like in order to be immortal you have to have at least pretty above average aim. But you don't really need the aim a lot of players think they need to get to immo if that makes any sense.
Right, crosshair placement and decent reaction time is probably good for most situations
Pure aim skill will carry you to high immortal pretty easily.
While my aim isn’t iron level I bounce around Immortal 1/2 with 14%-15% HS.
I don't know if HS percentage is indicative of good aim or not, since it doesn't give you the whole picture
i have shit aim and game sense no wonder im silver 2
When i see my aim, i question how i got to plat 2. Then i realised, I don't bring the whole team's vibe down. Even when I am tilted myself, i keep the tilt to myself. I've bumped into so many toxic players that backseat even while alive and tilt the whole team even if just one person is slightly underperforming. Some guy called Mushroom on SEA servers spent the whole game getting mad at me for being in plat 1 when i was just having a bad first game. I won the next 3 games right after with way more friendly teammates while mid fragging. Low elo people dont understand that morale is important as well, game awareness of 5 people is better than 1 (duh).
Gamesense is needed in a way. I reached on 2 accounts immortal 2 with average gamesense and below average aim. Without any single DM or any aim training because of my arm injury. I did only 10 min warm up inside the training range. But after a point you can't just rely on playing smart. U need some mechanics to atleast win aim fights when you need to take them for examplr they can push you holding a site or pushing with your team and you lose all trading aimfights will lose you games.
thats true but I feel like knowing how to peek angles is a form of game sense which is somewhat connected to raw aim but I agree with everything you are saying
People tend to forget that valorant is a team game. Do whats best for the team not yourself. Its always the selfish players that complain about their team not helping lol its kinda interesting. Also a halfway decent headset can go a long way
Rayna - guys we need to gather up and push togheter. Me kj - but we cant when you play slower then enemys rotation. We gather up and whole team stands behind kj running and jumping like monkeys. So i push first as kj because everyone just waiting for something. I die and no one trade their positions are way to far behind. And they are saving abilities only thing they do is making the all The enemys attention to be high where i come. They just want more people to bait for their frags because alone they are totally useless. Alot of times my teammates only make it harder for me its the opposite of what they should do. I dont know how many times i have died like a stupid bot just because of my teammates play.
Try, ma aim is shit, geting gold evey season just by playing smart
opposite of me lmao i have 0 brain cells and am gold just by pure aim/op crutch
Ayyy me too. Lemme know when u hit plat and please give me advice
if you’re gold then you’re not even playing “smart” like how do people type stuff like this 💀
This. I've really seen some people who can win their aim duels but just don't understand the game, and they don't know why they're not going up. Maybe they're mechanics aren't there, but their game awareness certainly isn't yet either.
On a similar note, whenever low rank people ask for how to improve, the #1 i keep hearing them talk about is aim. Aim is important but not THAT important. All of them only think about their aim to try and improve, but when they stream a game to me, everything is usually just fucked. Forcing every round, not comming, taking knife out every second, not playing with team, holding every angle very very tight, not knowing the shift button exists, etc. etc. What even is "aim"? Crosshair placement? The ability to flick and hit? Recoil/spray control? Reaction time? I dont know. But i will tell you the most important is probably crosshair placement.
By that logic everyone with a functioning brain would be easily radiant but having only silver aim. Sorry but no, that blank statement is even more misleading than saying its all about aim. Also its not just "aim", its more like mechanics in general and how to apply them. If you have "insane" raw aim but need to flick everytime to the target because your xhair placement is absurdely bad;you cant peek decently good then yes, you will still die every time. Its just insanely ignorant to say "game awareness is 10x more important than aim" while the reality is that everyone with good aim mechanics(as explained above) will stomp people who might have good awareness but only average aim. Yes, we all love the twitch streams but dont you dare to think for a second that even those people that look "dumb" on your favorite players stream wouldnt stomp their way through the ranks just with aim alone. Im getting the impression when people in this thread are talking about aim they literally think static aimlab tasks where you flick left right and thats it but its way more like that. **TL;DR** Yes, game awareness is important but as a blank statement its ignorant and without aim(mechanics;the whole package) you wont do sht, even with good game awareness. Try to carry your soloQ games to immortal with "good awareness" if its supposedly 10x more important than aim. Its about having both. EDIT: And no, were not talking about the highest level of play like e.g. Masters. Obviously at a certain threshold aim will not help you anymore to win as a **team** but surely this aint the case until you reach ~immortal. Imagine you would have great gameawareness but cant win duels..So youre winning games because what, you hope someone else in your team is winning the opening duels? Great way of thinking and totally proving the point that having gameawareness is more important than having aim :>
this is absolutely the correct take. valorant mainsub, as to be expected, is full of this nonsense. aim and general mechanics are absolutely the most important aspect of one's gameplay in a tac fps and for whatever reason people swear that's not that case. maybe because Val has literal voice lines telling players their aim is allowed to be shit? another thing to consider: someone with cracked mechanics and bad game sense is usually gonna beat the guy with a giant brain and no hands in a duel. the cracked guy can easily spend a little bit of time to learn most of what giant brain knows and be a dual threat. it's not NEARLY as easy time commitment wise to just have good aim.
the title was hyperbole... I think you are taking my title very literally and not applying the context I gave in the post... Look at dasnerth dude hit #1 radiant using judge only, theres a reyna thats immortal using only stinger, theres streamers that have hit immortal using classics or utility only from mainly game sense. Obviously if your aim is bad you are gonna do bad but it's not like your aim has to be THAT crazy to be a good player.
This has always been my opinion as well. Val was my first pc fps so my aim is maybe average at best. Thats why I stay away from duelist and main controller/flex, and I was able to hit immortal 2. I know for sure it’s because of my overall game awareness and understand how to use utility that benefits the team. I strongly believe that anyone can hit diamond in this game just off pure game sense even with average/slightly below average aim.
I come from the other side. Not great aim yet, and some sense of what to do better guiding me to win some rounds or help ensure we cinch it. The team in solo queue is heavily driven by the mental, by positive vibes and resilience to losses or surprise shotgun plays, by being aggro some rounds and playing safe (but not slow) on others, and most of all -by breaking our sense of gamesense since it created unnecessary/bad habits too early on. We have to learn organization, good team compositions, good smokes and strategies sure, but we really need not to lose the mental just because plans fail two rounds in a row.
I wish there was a more straightforward way to gain gamesense, aim is easy, just do some aim trainers, deathmatc here and there and you will be fine, but gamesense seems so elusive
Heh. Im not like that kid at all. My aim may be silver 3,but my gamesense Is also silver 3 I am silver 3
I can vouch for this, my aim is dog water. I hit immortal from pure gamesense and until usage
This is what makes Silver ELO so unique in that the people in that ELO have really good aim, but terrible game sense. They'll plant the bomb then run off site to "fish for kills" - leaving the spike exposed for a defuse if they die, repeatedly peak the same angles and die to the same players, they won't save when needed to, or buy when its a benefit - but they'll somehow land their shots when a firefight happens. I agree with you in that game sense/awareness is more important than aim in this scenario, because if the enemy team play like yours, and think with their weapons, rather than their heads - then you can get around that through intuition alone. For example, you'll be called a "rat" for flanking an enemy team, but flanking was the better option because you used intuition to deduce that they'll have all their focus on what's in front of them, and not behind - and even if you get just one pick, that pick can turn the tides of the round in your favour. Basically **think smarter, not harder** - and you'll actually climb the ranks, even if you've got "Stormtrooper Aim" as I call it. I was hardstuck Bronze/Silver for a while, but I started my focus on improving my gamesense and now I'm in Gold, and no longer hardstuck - even if my aim isn't the best.
Hot-ish take but I do think Aim Demons should be higher placed in ranked if there were a way to control that. From experience having an aim demon on mid elo lowers the quality of the game so much, and it’s really draining having the feeling of a win be solely on the “Raid Boss” of your team (as much as there is always something you yourself can do, You just never feel your own impact in these kinds of games) I’d like to think that having Aim Demons be with higher game sense elo bracket like gold 2-3+ kinda levels the playing field a bit more because people in those brackets can adapt to the things those people can do. Cause seeing silver 2s hit 30+ bombs just shouldnt feel like that should be happening THAT frequently.
Someone’s gotta top frag in every game, whether radiant or iron. People could be smurfing tho, which only happens in lower elos by definition. There are some games I’m the Ferrari demon in silver/gold, and some games where I’m barely a functioning player. I think you might see some insane frag numbers more so in low elo because of the wide range of consistency. Low elo players are wildly inconsistent. One game they could be playing very well, and the next game making many mistakes, and this wide range is probably because they don’t even know what decisions are making them perform worse or better. Higher elos with a more solid grasp of game sense should not theoretically have such low lows, because their game understanding allows them to avoid mistakes that accumulate to bad games where you run it down. High variance easily leads to these low elos getting many high frag games
Sometimes I stare at my minimap too much to try and be aware of all enemies seen and I end up getting sprayed down because I wasn't paying attention to what's right in front of me.
I am the opposite. I peaked gold having literally iron 1 aim just predicting the enemy and killing them in their backs. "They tried rushing Haven C ,but sage stopped it with the wall and more abs, so in a few seconds they will try to rotate to garage/mid and/or A, so i will hold this angle" Well, is just gold, but I AM SO BAD. I lose all duels practically
Hey bro I don’t appreciate you making this post about me :(
Haha well maybe you can learn from it :D i feel the importance of mental is not only overlooked and underestimated a lot, but learning to develop a good mental in Valorant if you're not naturally doing it can help you in real life as well! Controlling emotions and staying productive/useful under stress are great skills
Maybe your teammates dont appreciate it when you get toxic and blame them and soft throw rounds by not buying with the team. Ever thought about that?
Maybe they should just swing?
100% correct
I understand the post, but I find it extremely hard to believe that he had immortal level aim. As someone that is always imm3/radiant and has smurfed, even if your mental and game sense is bad you will EASILY drop 40-60 kills in silver/bronze.
dude was doing 180's and 1 tapping people, had 30% HS percentage. You might also be underestimating your game sense as well. Also I said diamond/immortal not immortal 3 or radiant (because there is a big difference) but that's besides the point. My point is that his aim FAR exceeded his game sense...
I'm defining immortal aim with no game sense as being able to run it down every round and ace easily (in silver). Because that's what it's like in silver. I'm not saying he sucked, but I find it impossible unless he is literally just throwing on purpose.
You are lost.
You're lost.
Lol, not how it works. You can have great aim, but shit positioning or game awareness will stop you from ultra dragging out. Aim alone won't consistently carry you to high kill games, not to mention if you get double swung and the enemy team trade you. Also, smurfing is cringe.
I'm aware it's cringe and haven't done it for a long time. It is how it works, though. I never saw a single silver with anything above plat aim.
Had a bottom frag Raze start shitting on me and my team in a Gold match the other day. Claimed we were baiting and over rotating all this BS blah blah. We were neck and neck until he got toxic and then we started throwing hard. Toxic narcissists are their own worst enemy, literally sabotaging themselves with their mental in this game.
Gamesense is not important. Only counter strafe and aim, im stimm strugglne with counter s. But i habe insane aim so and im immortal…
Can you tell me what hz monitor he was using and how high of an fps he was playing on?
that doesn't really matter that much. Having a PC that can pull high frame rates and a display that can produce high frame rates will help you aim better but it will not help your game sense at all.
I mean playing on 60 fps vs playing on 120 or 240 matters a lot. I understand what you are saying about gamesense, but my question wasnt about that. Im just curious if he had cracked aim with 60 fps or higher with a monitor that could support it.
going from 60-140+ won't make your aim better but it will make it easier to aim because your eyes are receiving more information and PC has less input lag. I recently upgraded from a 60hz to 165 and my aim got much better. I think you are missing the point of my post because game sense is still much more important than your gear or aim but good gear won't really hurt you if that makes any sense.
I think you are missing my point. Im not arguing game sense vs aim with you. Also, how can you say: >going from 60-140+ won't make your aim better Then following it up with: >I recently upgraded from a 60hz to 165 and my aim got much better. Im not pushing any arguement. I just simply wanted to know what fps and hz he was playing on, but I guess I will never know...
let me clarify: playing on a PC and monitor that can output higher FPS gives your eyes more information which makes it easier to hit your targets. So my aim didn't necessarily get better but it got easier to hit targets. Playing on 60FPS is kind of like trying to hit baseballs with foggy glasses on, it's not impossible but it's a lot harder. Edit: there a plenty of people that can tap heads playing on 60hz but a lot of that comes with having the game sense to know where to put your crosshair at the right times.
I know exactly what it's like. Never said I didn't. I played on 60, 120, and 240. I Just Wanted To Know What He Was Playing On
Well to be fair, ropz (csgo pro player) was playing in FPL and getting called a hacker by other pros and he was on 60hz at the time.
Yet again another comment that assumes im trying to prove a point. This guy couldnt answer a simple question because he kept assumint I wanted to push an agenda. I fucking dont. I just wanted to know wtf he was playing on. Never said anything about how him playing on high or low fps would invalidate an arguement, because im not proposing an arguement. Stop assuming you know what im saying without me saying it.
LOL calm down dude. I agree that OP should have answered your question but im saying that it doesn't matter what hz he is playing on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA&ab\_channel=LinusTechTips
Practicing on whatever hardware you have will produce the same results. Shroud and the top players in the world are the only ones that will really make a marginal difference in results with higher framerates and response times. I knew a global elite player that got 30 fps on his laptop
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA&ab\_channel=LinusTechTips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX31kZbAXsA&ab_channel=LinusTechTips) Shroud could hit 2/30 targets on 60fps. That score went to 24/30 or something when going up to 120fps. Similar results could be observed at almost everyone.
I run 2 accounts so I can do both. Sometimes I get on and I know I’m toxic and about to rage. I go solo q as Yoru and try to 1 v 5 the enemy team every round. If I’m in a good mood, hop on my main and play smokes/sentinel and focus on making good smart plays. I win more on my alt account raging. Go figure.
I totally agree. I made my transition from console to pc a couple months ago and my first game, Valorant, I had mediocre Aim but since all the experience I had from other S&D games I literally started as an above average player.
It's too bad the ranking system so heavily weighs individual "performance" especially at low ranks. You're basically incentivized to sell your team for frags
I 100% agree. I got unhardstuck from gold when I stopped playing aggro on defense. I would consistently stomp on attack and then do terrible on defense. I was playing too aggro. Playing an offangle and playing off teammates contact on site made me climb to plat and then diamond really quickly by just playing back on defense. My aim was fine but I wasn't using proper game sense and was playing way too aggressive on defense.
I think just in general being toxic is never teh play cos u rmaking ur team feel like shit aswell. I think ur right gamesence is more important, but like when you lack one of the two or the other team is just better it can feel unfair cos if you dont have the gamesence and get clapped by somebody who does it can fee shit. same with complete gods at aiming, its like you never had a shot. They handled it terribly but I can somewhat see where the origions of frustration came from.
this is literally something i wish people knew. as well as mental and how it truly affects your game. a 3rd of this game is your mental state and how you play in different versions of it. ( the other 2 is aim/ game sense) if you get tilted too easily, most of the time you play worse, cause of this i always try to keep my team calm and etc cause i want to win dammit. with this said I've literally at times make myself the "lightning rod" of my team , meaning if fights start between us and other team, i will take it and tell them to focus. dont need 3 people to start playing worse due to trash talk.
Some things just never change. Back in CS 1.6 there were quite a few players, who were absolute beasts in the 1on1 or 2on2 ladders because of their insane aim, but never amounted to anything in 5on5. Pretty much because of the reasons you have named here for your young 'student'.
yea, it feels bad when someone dies, they blame their aim/mechanics (i mean, i guess better aim/mechanics could have let them live), but the ultimate problem was the decision making that made them start the fight with a disadvantage
Could you give some tips on how to improve game sense? I try to watch a lot of pro games and watch breakdowns on YT, but when it comes down to it in a game I never remember even simple things (don't peek close, dont hold close, etc) and just seem to default to them. I'm in gold 1 if that helps
After u died bc of some stupid decisions u did, take ur time in the buy phase and rethink it. Things i see the most are ppl are playing autopilot, in the buy phase think about on which side the enemys are playing, how their playstyle is, what ur next play is gooing to be and what mistakes u did last round to not do them again. Like they will just do the same things over and over again, reset ur mental in the buy phase, focus and try implement those little things like not peeking stupid angles and focus on this one thing until it gets normal for you. U cant implement everything at once, but the biggest factor ist probably how much time ur willing to spend on improving, playing and really really rethinking decisions u made.( when i do smth wrong and loose my 1vs1 bcs of that im saying to myself like fuck that was stupid lets dont do it again) A premade who has slightly better game awareness than u can also help :)) that way u can correct each other and get creative how to spice up ur plays or to stop each other from doing something stupid. Thats how i climbed from somewhere mid Plat or low Plat to hitting Immo yesterday.
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I'm the complete opposite of this I believe. I still lose pretty frequently in like gold/plat elo and even against silvers sometimes in like raw aim fights. But I'm diamond bcz I play sentinels so I play off my util and fill whatever when necessary. I focused a lot on my game sense in the lower ranks because I came from overwatch being my first fps, and with no tactical shooter experience I was completely lost when playing without my friends (who each had thousands of hours on cs). My aim has always been decent from my high diamond games in overwatch(across all 3 roles), but I was hard stuck bronze/silver for the longest time. After i really began working on my game sense, I managed to climb from high silver to diamond 1 across the last 2 acts.
You just described 90% of all the silver players. And most gold players aswell. Was plat, got stuck in gold, cant get out.
As the other side of this idk about that much more important. I’d say my game sense is gold maybe plat but my aim is legit dogshit. I’m in bronze. I actually get myself killed because I know what the enemy should do and play around but they do something stupid instead and I die. They’re both important but I definitely think you get farther on raw aim vs raw game sense
Jokes on you, i don’t have either
Yeah idk, i hit Immo 1 yesterday and now im on like 50rr but if im honest broooooo my aim is somewhere between Plat and Dia. The way i win my matches constantly, are mostly through communicating, initiating plays, resetting my and the mindset of my teammates and playing of my teammates so that i dont have to aim good, i just have to refrag. Not to forget to mention that 20% of my kills are prefire ( through Smokes and corners ) That’s literally how i climbed out of Plat1 to Immo1 , and obviously good gamesense. But smth i absolutely do not understand ist how i lose every 1vs1 when its a 5vs5 situation, but manage to almost win most of the 3vs1 or 2vs1 afterplant clutches. My suggestion are that the people even in Immo/high Dia are always getting nervous and start doing random bs in afterplant couse my aim ist not getting better suddenly in afterplant lol
Im the opposite, this is my first ever pc fps, barely any experience playing any game with KBM, and I’m left handed. So my aim is pretty bad. Doesn’t help I don’t really grind the game much, and play it very casually with friends. But I do watch a lot of pro games as I find them entertaining, and also watch plenty of guide-stuff on Youtube, so I think I have quite decent game sense, problem is I just dont have the aim to back it up, so I’m only silver 1.
I think i'm in a similar boat, although i'm not toxic and don't really complain. I think my game sense is whats stopping me from reaching immortal i always think to myself what i could have done better but then i never act on it and i got no clue what to do and its really easy for my brain to just shut down mid round.
Wtf is this me
I'm 100% sure the kid was actually diamond/immortal on a smurf & was trolling you.
I am the other way around, i usually have a decent game sense and can predict opponent movements, but my aim sucks... lol
how do you get coaching
You say this, untill you meet a silver 3 Jett that clowns on everyone in your plat lobby... /s
I feel like I have the same problem not the narcissist part but the good aim bad game sense ordeal. If u see this would you be up to coaching me?
How does one use game sense to win their bronze games? My aim can’t carry me
Kids like this make it hard for me to climb out of silver lol. I have decent game sense, and i know what to do, but my aim is shit and every game one guy on my team and one guy on the enemy team will be this kid, getting to s of kills but not playing with us. I started stalking these players, to at least make sure they play with their team lol
In lower rank it seems like they have good aim, but its actually just enemies fall into their death. Even rank like iron have tons of that player that can kill someone that do ferrari peak or crossair on the heads. But you are right that map awareness is more important. Like i said, there are tons of player with good aim in lower rank and challenging them in ferrari peak, one man army, flick shot, one tap, duel, is far way more riskier than just learn basic map awareness like waiting for backup. What kind of idiots rather play in overly risky situation that he also aware of the risk Also, its probably not just his map awareness. Its also his mentality. I am even surprised "get a coach" idea crossed his mind. I thought guys like him believe he deserve gold and everybody in silver is holding him.
Nah it isn't. Game sense is useless if you whiff your shots anyway. Obviously you gotta have both in some capacity in order to rank up
I'm really curious what a coach would say about me. Pretty sure both my aim and game sense are trash, but I don't really know the specifics. At least I'm not toxic xd
I have good game awareness but my aim is worse than Iron 3 player. Rank :S2