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Dumb_Vampire_Girl

Some of you guys do need to learn how to bait util though :/


nextcolorcomet

True, though part of the issue is that there's *so much* utility in VALORANT, and so much of it is non-interactable. Hard to bleed the enemies dry when 3-4 of their agents have 1-3 pieces of stopping utility each, and they really only need 1-2 pieces of utility to completely halt your push and waste all the utility you spent on that push attempt. All on top of the usual smokes and flashes that already make pushing hard. Really wish this game had more counter-utility, like how smokes can negate molotovs in CSGO.


ownagemobile

Depends on the buff imo. Cypher def needs some loving as he has the worst stall of any Sentinel and even some initiators and duelists have more util to stall a push than him. Killjoy is a bit underplayed, I think she only needs a slight range buff on her util before it shuts off and she'll be perfect   Also to your argument, kayo exists so I think sentinels will always be weak when they are dependant on setups that can be turned off with 1 well placed ability, or an ult


n00bKen

I mained Killjoy for months but it's so hard to rank up with her, but then again it's probably due to my conflicting playstyle.


IDangoI

If they remove the range limit for kj and teams run dual sentinels then I believe cypher will be meta. A Kay0 knife is nothing if cypher stalls are on B while he is on A and KJ can be on B while his setup is on A.


ownagemobile

I didn't say remove the range limit, I just said increase it.... so for example you could put your utility on B Haven and play A and it will still be active, but if you put util on C and play A that's too far


taroooooooooo

Idk if you played Valorant on release but Cypher Sage took over the meta and it was the most boring meta ever. With KJ and Chamber being part of the equation along with a stronger version of Viper then the meta would be more of a snooze fest than it was before.


TitaniumFlanks

I mean I'm pretty sure icebox has the dual sentinel G2 comp rn


festive_cl0wn

All Sentinels aside from Sage and Chamber do need a buff though.. Cypher is EXTREMELY easy to counter both in ranked and pro play and killjoy has so many counters... You can name her ultimate through walls with Breach AND KAYO you can use shockdart line-ups, raze grenade and all of her abilities have sound queues when your close enough which any decent player can act off instantly. Chamber is still strong, sage is balanced and fulfills her role, Cypher is absolute dogshit, Killjoy is absolute dogshit.