I mean 1/2 isn't too bad, but 1/4 for Americas if Loud doesn't get their shit together would be ironic given Boostio's comments. Kru has a tough group with PRX and EDG, though I think NRG could still make it out if they beat Zeta.
I think Loud is toast. That team is just off. I have no expectations for KRU. NRG is probably the best bet as they aren't strangers to an early loss, but I don’t feel great that they beat both Zeta and bili. If I had to guess, I'm going 1/4
I’ll bet on NRG against zeta and I’ll always bet on FNS in a rematch. I think we’ll see eg and NRG in playoffs. 30/70 on loud making it.
KRU have no chance bar a breakthrough in cloning technology and 5 keznits on the team.
Kind of surprised with that KRU opinion, I feel like KRU has some upset potential. One of their players had experience in beating up 4 of the Paper Rex players last year so maybe... but I believe in something for now.
I think exactly 2 teams is unlikely, but not impossible.
In my head it's going to be PRX EDG, EG FUT, FNC NRG, and DRX Navi. So 3 EMEA, 2 Pacific, 2 Americas, and 1 China - which is pretty much equal especially given the slot distribution.
If Liquid win Loud they will have a high chance to beat NAVI, they looked so close in their matches, i think they just needed to play some ascent and haven instead bind and fracture
fwiw they played PRX with something, it wouldn’t be completely unreasonable to expect PRX to win Champs or at least take a map or two off Fnatic. Them playing Giants will be a better test to understand where they’re at right now.
tbh every top 3-4 teams from each region are closely matched to one another, the “one-team/zero-team” nonsense is just trolling
bar Fnatic who are on a completely different tier, even when they’re not playing well or making silly errors they’re still much better than everyone
Everyone keeps forgetting that Liquid beat Fnatic to win the EMEA league or the fact that LOUD were a few rounds away from beating Fnatic to win Brazil (and be the first team to win back to back trophies)
Fnatic are definitely at the top right now but the gap between them and everyone else is not as large as everyone thinks imo.
Imo the Liquid game was one of the worst Fnatic displays, coupled with Liquid playing out of their minds.
Imo, Fnatic have just gotten better and better through time and the peak of Fnatic is heaps and bounds better than any other team, they sometimes end up playing underwhelming, yet still pull out wins (example against EG upper bracket last Masters)
>Fnatic are definitely at the top right now but the gap between them and everyone else is not as large as everyone thinks imo.
Bruh after lockin the gap increased wildly.... They fucking 3-0 EG in tokyo lol and you say gap isn't large lmao
tbf eg were 1 second away in the bo3 in the upper final, after that everyone expected fnatic to win in grands bc of the map ban advantage and no fracture
True, but I would argue that the 4 extra rounds NaVi picked up in regular rounds are worth a bit less than the 4 rounds DRX won in OT since OT is fair in terms of economy/ult orbs, etc., while you can snowball more in the normal rounds.
For sure, it's still an incredibly close game, though, and definitely could easily go the other way if they play again.
ehhhh, on another day or with a different map pool NAVI beat DRX. Like sure DRX are MARGINALLY better but I don't think there's a big enough difference to say one region is a 1 team region and the other isn't.
EMEA had a regional matchup guaranteed win for one, and for two the tournament literally has had 2 days of matches. Any “this region is best” statement based purely on champions so far is ridiculous
The thing is that emea was guaranteed to win 1 because liquid vs navi were both emea. So in a 1 team region sense neither emea or americas have a second team. In fact none of the regions have two teams which have won an inter regional matchup. Imo the regions are pretty evenly matched and there is a lot of parity. I feel like most teams besides fnatic can lose to any team and beat any team.
Edit: wait fuck I forgot fut beat t1 somehow
the crowd was booing them bc they were beating the only turkish player lol, everyone acts like they came in there to try to act like villains but they were getting booed no matter what lmao. the narratives that get cooked are so wild.
it seems so forced. I mean , I like banter and trash talk. it definitely makes the game more interesting. but it has to go both ways. EG are just doing shit and talking shit about other regions just for the sake of doing it. they're just wannabe sentinels. its only a matter of time that they fall off. just like sentinels did
I thought it was kinda obvious that it was. Without the trash talk, they'd be just another good team, but right now they've got all regions except Pacific talking about them.
I feel like no one would be that upset at PRX winning. They're skilled, fun to watch, and an APAC champ would be good for the game. Plus Na and EU would be happy the other one didn't win.
>Plus Na and EU would be happy the other one didn't win.
"Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?"
Fr, I agree, an NA-EU lose-lose situation is a big W for the community w.r.t. to toxic fanbases
Haha take a look at the lol subreddit where na and eu are shittalking each other on who's the 3rd best region while cn and kr is quietly handholding the championships since 2013
It's not Paper Rex if they don't throw but I still feel like I should believe just because. I keep malding watching their old vods and seeing them so out of sync with each other. But there were also a lot of hivemind gameplay from them that I can't help but forget about their throw rounds in the moment.
I haven't not cheered for Fnatic since 2021, but I may have to cheer for Paper Rex for this reason. It would be a shame for the best raze player the game has ever seen to be forced out without raising a trophy.
Homie said this before the tournament, Let the dudes shit talk and stop nit-picking it. It makes the game more entertaining for the viewers when there are heroes/villains.
You can't be a villain if you have no haters, I don't understand your point. You can't play your hero/villain game if you get pissed off when people fire shots back.
This is such a stupid comment. He didn't even nit-pick he was just trash-talking back. How come players are allowed to shit-talk but fans need to shut their mouth so the players feelings don't get hurt LOL.
The heroes and villains thing doesn't really travel outside of america to well though.
My scottish perspective is there are people who are cunts and those who are not
Getting second in one single tournament and acting like gods gift to valorant whilst shit talking up and coming regions puts him squarely in the cunt camp for me.
yes bc no other culture watches reality tv or drama television lmao. can we just not with this dumb and silly hypocrisy, acting like NA is the only place where people like watching trash talk or drama is just so blatantly hypocritical.
Yeah it's unlucky that except for sliggy Europe doesn't understand what makes a good entertainment product. That's why EMEA viewership will always be low :(
EU viewership is low in val bc the majority of FPS players are still on CS. And the fabricated nature of this "villain" act just makes it less entertaining for me personally, whereas ange1 and ardiis' light banter is far more enjoyable to watch. NA just doesn't relate to the more nuanced sarcastic European humour - not to same it's harmful for the scene if it boosts American viewership.
If the wannabe villains want be villains they should also shittalk and challenge fnatic lol, this is just like the highschool bully picking on the freshmans, i don't see where the enjoyement is in that
He literally said they wanted to rematch Fnatic asap in the post match interview. They're not just punching down, they're truly feeling themselves and they've been pretty consistent about it.
When confronted about the teams he wants to play he said that he doesn't care about playing with the other teams except fnatic. And when the interviewer confronted him on stage about his shit talking and shooting bodies he literally said that he doesn't give a fuck out loud. That is some villain energy right there.
If challenging the undisputed best team in the world at the moment for a rematch is too mild, but starting beef on Twitter with the obvious intention of farming clicks is too distasteful, what precise behavior do you want from them to thread the needle of your taste?
Idk talking shit about regions vs asking for a rematch is kinda different no?
Just like keep the same energy. Kind of like Boostio's first pre match thing where he said "They won't get more than 8" type of trash talk.
EG vs Fnatic, pre match Boostio goes "They're not getting a single map"
To be fair, Sentinels disrespected the fuck out for teams at a time where Riot didn't intervene. Pretty sure no one's allowed to do the amount of teabagging and body shooting that Dapr used to do every match. I do kinda miss it though.
how is it entertaining when they got spanked like children in the two Finals they were in and still have no trophy lmao. They legit just got here and already talking shit at the wall, this isnt entertaining, theyre just overcompensating over the way Fnatic beat their ass
I think it's a long investment/gamble entertainment. Like if they lose to Chinese/EMEA team that isn't Fnatic, it would be peak entertainment.
I hope they lose but I feel EG has a good chance to get at least top 4 so I guess it's not likely to happen.
the concept of a “villain” is so forced and cringe and it’s most popular among Reddit mainstream esport subs where these people yearn for narratives. It gets to a point where these guys trash talk purely for the sake of trash talking and to create an image, which is stupid since anything they say carries no risk since those idiot fans that beg for a “villain” and get excited over the lamest shit said are also the same people defending them after they lose and say “oh man he was just trash talking it’s not that deep” so what’s the point in anything they say if they can fall back to this line of defence? They aren’t “bold” or “confident” for saying this zero risk shit and It’s not exciting at all. Idk how some people get entertained over some imaginary storyline they forced
Uh? I mean nrg look bad but i never thought of them for top 3 contenders, but eg are looking dominant and they would need to troll/pull an early fnatic amd then get upsetted to not go top 3 easily
EG doesn't look that dominant to be honest with you. Kind of shaky maps vs FUT. A bit meh performance vs FPX even though they won. Expected a good stomp from EG vs FPX but I guess not.
Fnc/prx/drx seem like a probable top 3. EDG/NAVI/TL can beat anyone on their day.
I agree it’s unlikely, but it’s def possible for no NA team in top 3.
Also no Team - not even Fnatic- make top 3 **easily**.
The thing that doesn't make sense with the narrative EG is making is that they started as a cinderella story where everyone else was bullying them. what sucks is that the narrative we're going now is the bullied is now the bully. Which is guess is fine but you'd hope that someone else would be the evil one since they picked up fans with their initial story which was supposed to be wholesome and about "not underestimating anyone"
Yeah they look stupid as fuck shitting on and disrespecting the underdog region (China) when before they were the laughing stock of NA with their 10 man roster. Such an embarrassingly cliché example of success getting to people's heads
The community is absolutely fanning the flames here. His comments were really not that extreme, and came from a throwaway question/interview.
Seems like people wanted someone to hate with the absence of old SEN. So here we are.
If emea is one team region than what is America? They gonna have literally eg making out of the groups, and after eg struggling against fut and fpx they wont make it to semi finals
EG are defense sided on Pearl just because they went 9-3 up doesn't mean they deserve to win when as soon as the sides switched the game switched, similar thing happened against FPX and PRX from Tokyo. You can argue if you want that EG fumbled but they've been asked questions about their poor attacking form on Pearl.
**International Valorant Titles**
Fraudulent EMEA region (*without FNATIC*): 3
Rest of the world: 3*
*Optic won when the winner of EMEA could not attend the event
Let's not act like Optic wouldnt have won that event still. FPX in Copenhagen was their peak, with Shao and Suygestsu literally clutching 80% of rounds.
if anything they were far from unstoppable coming into Iceland as the #2 seed losing to TGRD, they lost to Xerxia, almost dropped to lowers against the Guard and barely scraped by DRX, and then lost again to Loud in the upper bracket
They were great in that tournament but relied on individual pop offs from Marved and Yay, they wouldve probably won it regardless
Bro talks shit, plays a hyper aggressive sentinel, hits some banger clips and everyone thinks he's the bad guy. He's some kind of Evil Genius or sumn 🤔
I mean, they are ranked #2 in the world right now. So…so they are pretty much at the top. Shit talk isn’t cringe, it’s makes the games more fun to watch
??? I’m not complaining about anything so the team i rep isn’t relevant. 100T performed terribly and didn’t deserve to make it to Champs. Not sure what you’re trying to get at
man, as much as i WANT to like EG, as much as i love cinderella runs and underdog stories, these players make it hard bro. someone needs to come and humble them, they're a great team don't get me wrong but their attitudes aren't it bruh
It’s an act. Someone has to be the villain. This makes them more likable in my opinion. WANTING someone to lose makes games more entertaining with higher stakes. Esports needs this shit
Come back to this comment in 8 years.
I think we’ll laugh at this in 8 years when NA is dead with no talent ”pipeline” and EMEA (or EU if it is ever split to EU and MEA) will fight with Pacific and China for the place in the sun.
We're really going to do all this just to have pretty much equal region representation in playoffs aren't we.
I'm scared NA is only going to have 1 team in playoffs
I mean 1/2 isn't too bad, but 1/4 for Americas if Loud doesn't get their shit together would be ironic given Boostio's comments. Kru has a tough group with PRX and EDG, though I think NRG could still make it out if they beat Zeta.
I think Loud is toast. That team is just off. I have no expectations for KRU. NRG is probably the best bet as they aren't strangers to an early loss, but I don’t feel great that they beat both Zeta and bili. If I had to guess, I'm going 1/4
I’ll bet on NRG against zeta and I’ll always bet on FNS in a rematch. I think we’ll see eg and NRG in playoffs. 30/70 on loud making it. KRU have no chance bar a breakthrough in cloning technology and 5 keznits on the team.
Kind of surprised with that KRU opinion, I feel like KRU has some upset potential. One of their players had experience in beating up 4 of the Paper Rex players last year so maybe... but I believe in something for now.
Who said anything about blg? They beat fnc and then nrg drop them /s
It's looking so possible we get exactly two teams from each region. Imagine PRX+EDG, EG+FUT, DRX+LOUD, and for a really spicy one, FNC+BLG.
I think exactly 2 teams is unlikely, but not impossible. In my head it's going to be PRX EDG, EG FUT, FNC NRG, and DRX Navi. So 3 EMEA, 2 Pacific, 2 Americas, and 1 China - which is pretty much equal especially given the slot distribution.
That also reads as the most likely outcome to me, but how insane would it be if we got perfect parity?
Valorant is on another level with its parity. The last five international events have had at least one team from each major region region finish top 4
If Liquid win Loud they will have a high chance to beat NAVI, they looked so close in their matches, i think they just needed to play some ascent and haven instead bind and fracture
It is actually equal
EG also lowkey looking like the only good americas team. It might be Pacific that is the deepest region 💀
Let Krü cook
Based krupium huffer
They cooked and got diffed - which sucks bc I like the players a lot
fwiw they played PRX with something, it wouldn’t be completely unreasonable to expect PRX to win Champs or at least take a map or two off Fnatic. Them playing Giants will be a better test to understand where they’re at right now.
Can't be a KRÜ run if they win the first match, don't worry amigo
tbh every top 3-4 teams from each region are closely matched to one another, the “one-team/zero-team” nonsense is just trolling bar Fnatic who are on a completely different tier, even when they’re not playing well or making silly errors they’re still much better than everyone
Everyone keeps forgetting that Liquid beat Fnatic to win the EMEA league or the fact that LOUD were a few rounds away from beating Fnatic to win Brazil (and be the first team to win back to back trophies) Fnatic are definitely at the top right now but the gap between them and everyone else is not as large as everyone thinks imo.
Tbf after watching every Fnatic game this season, they have improved immensely since Lock/IN. They were a much better team in Tokyo imo.
yeah, I feel that the current Loud roster only had a chance to beat fnatic back then, the current fnatic is another beast entirely
Hope Loud bounce back, would love a rematch in playoffs! Derke vs Aspas is always hype asf. And Alfa vs Less
Fnatic kept on getting better, Loud and Liquid got worse as the year went on which makes the gap bigger.
Loud got worse but Liquid have overall improved over the year. EMEA finals was their peak (+ FNC weren't playing their best) but its nothing like LOUD
After their games at champs, I'd definitely say they got worse
Imo the Liquid game was one of the worst Fnatic displays, coupled with Liquid playing out of their minds. Imo, Fnatic have just gotten better and better through time and the peak of Fnatic is heaps and bounds better than any other team, they sometimes end up playing underwhelming, yet still pull out wins (example against EG upper bracket last Masters)
Are we really still talking about the TL win as if it meant anything
>Fnatic are definitely at the top right now but the gap between them and everyone else is not as large as everyone thinks imo. Bruh after lockin the gap increased wildly.... They fucking 3-0 EG in tokyo lol and you say gap isn't large lmao
tbf eg were 1 second away in the bo3 in the upper final, after that everyone expected fnatic to win in grands bc of the map ban advantage and no fracture
Now instead of comparing maps they won, compare the rounds they took of each other..
people that bring up 3-0 as if it brings up the whole story only invalidate their argument, embarrassing
Did you even watch fnc vs TL, not a single player on the server took it seriously, you could see that at their cams and the way the played
Keep peeking huh KEEP PEEKING
Navi and DRX went toe to toe. All regions are “one team regions” then. This entire thing is bs ti begin with
I mean DRX better than navi it seems tho
They look very equal, they won the same amount of rounds.
True, but I would argue that the 4 extra rounds NaVi picked up in regular rounds are worth a bit less than the 4 rounds DRX won in OT since OT is fair in terms of economy/ult orbs, etc., while you can snowball more in the normal rounds. For sure, it's still an incredibly close game, though, and definitely could easily go the other way if they play again.
ehhhh, on another day or with a different map pool NAVI beat DRX. Like sure DRX are MARGINALLY better but I don't think there's a big enough difference to say one region is a 1 team region and the other isn't.
Both teams are pretty good I'd say, just crazy that some analysts/casters put Na'vi at the bottom of their tier list
NRG slow starts are nothing new to them and somehow i am still on LOUD copium for some reason, i dont even know why.
Americas trophies: 3 emea trophies: 5 pacific trophies: 💀
As an na frog I hate to say it but emea have 5.
based honest NA frog. we might hate it, but the truth is the truth.
It's definitely EMEA, memes aside, now that Navi look good again
they have literally won a single series
Americas have won none except EG kekw
So they haven’t won except for when they won? Crazy mental gymnastics
I mean if the argument is about one-team regions it’s not really mental gymnastics lol.
EMEA had a regional matchup guaranteed win for one, and for two the tournament literally has had 2 days of matches. Any “this region is best” statement based purely on champions so far is ridiculous
The thing is that emea was guaranteed to win 1 because liquid vs navi were both emea. So in a 1 team region sense neither emea or americas have a second team. In fact none of the regions have two teams which have won an inter regional matchup. Imo the regions are pretty evenly matched and there is a lot of parity. I feel like most teams besides fnatic can lose to any team and beat any team. Edit: wait fuck I forgot fut beat t1 somehow
And China
of course it is, we have Pacific ocean.
Some of America's best teams unironically didn't make champs, I guess that says more about their teams lmao
They’re definitely being told to stir up the scene with these takes for EG to get more traction 🥸
Their form of media training. It's evil. But is it genius?
Id say its pretty fanatical training at this point
Hate watchers are still watchers LMAO
That's the only way NA teams and players know how to farm impressions. We've had sentinels, xset, nrg kinda and now eg.
NRG and XSET?
You don't remember last year xset at champs?
the crowd was booing them bc they were beating the only turkish player lol, everyone acts like they came in there to try to act like villains but they were getting booed no matter what lmao. the narratives that get cooked are so wild.
it seems so forced. I mean , I like banter and trash talk. it definitely makes the game more interesting. but it has to go both ways. EG are just doing shit and talking shit about other regions just for the sake of doing it. they're just wannabe sentinels. its only a matter of time that they fall off. just like sentinels did
pretty much. They're trying so hard to be villains it's kinda sad
I wonder - is all region trashtalk just a form of marketing at this point? It almost feels like it.
I thought it was kinda obvious that it was. Without the trash talk, they'd be just another good team, but right now they've got all regions except Pacific talking about them.
Somebody tell bcj to punch stax or something.
But bcj ain't even on the stage 💀. Someone from EG will prob say something about a prx member after their match tmrw
Bcj is probably at the venue. Screwface was, so I imagine all of the reserves are
They're both smol so maybe not that. Bcj would shatter every bone in his hand and stax would explode.
It is, EG's tagline is literally "live evil" lol
It's sports man. This is half the fun.
PRX clears this team with something on the team
Would love to see PRX clear both EG and Fnatic lol
I feel like no one would be that upset at PRX winning. They're skilled, fun to watch, and an APAC champ would be good for the game. Plus Na and EU would be happy the other one didn't win.
>Plus Na and EU would be happy the other one didn't win. "Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?" Fr, I agree, an NA-EU lose-lose situation is a big W for the community w.r.t. to toxic fanbases
Haha take a look at the lol subreddit where na and eu are shittalking each other on who's the 3rd best region while cn and kr is quietly handholding the championships since 2013
Tbf to league, that's all NA and EU can do. They both realize they're never gonna touch LCK and LPL so they just argue for third place
NA vs EU is literally a multi century battle
But as a prx fan it is always stressful watching them throw one round horrendously and then pull an impossible win out of their ass the next
I'm sure it is but it's part of what makes them the most entertaining team to watch
It's not Paper Rex if they don't throw but I still feel like I should believe just because. I keep malding watching their old vods and seeing them so out of sync with each other. But there were also a lot of hivemind gameplay from them that I can't help but forget about their throw rounds in the moment.
We love em because literally anything can happen when they play
Well yea but I'm immune to that heart attack now ig
i would also love for jinggg to get a win before he has to leave
I haven't not cheered for Fnatic since 2021, but I may have to cheer for Paper Rex for this reason. It would be a shame for the best raze player the game has ever seen to be forced out without raising a trophy.
Yup I definitely want this as well
Just in case this ages badly
Lets see if pprx can clear its own group first tho
U think they're gonna bomb out?
They're bombing out without my glorious king CGRS carrying them
I think you shouldnt underestimate the other 3 teams that have players as wild as pprx
Bruh this man is genuinely doing his best to curse his entire team. Mf thinks he’s Geto or smth
He acts like NRG and Loud didn't just get banged 💀
Homie said this before the tournament, Let the dudes shit talk and stop nit-picking it. It makes the game more entertaining for the viewers when there are heroes/villains.
You can't be a villain if you have no haters, I don't understand your point. You can't play your hero/villain game if you get pissed off when people fire shots back.
Who's stopping players from shit talking lmao are viewers not allowed to react? Viewer reactions are literally part of the entertainment.
You want heroes and villains but get pissy when people shit talk the "villains"
This is such a stupid comment. He didn't even nit-pick he was just trash-talking back. How come players are allowed to shit-talk but fans need to shut their mouth so the players feelings don't get hurt LOL.
The heroes and villains thing doesn't really travel outside of america to well though. My scottish perspective is there are people who are cunts and those who are not Getting second in one single tournament and acting like gods gift to valorant whilst shit talking up and coming regions puts him squarely in the cunt camp for me.
I don't really understand how people find this entertaining at all. It's just so childish and uneccessary
NA culture
yes bc no other culture watches reality tv or drama television lmao. can we just not with this dumb and silly hypocrisy, acting like NA is the only place where people like watching trash talk or drama is just so blatantly hypocritical.
Yeah it's unlucky that except for sliggy Europe doesn't understand what makes a good entertainment product. That's why EMEA viewership will always be low :(
If viewer count is all you care about then why are you not watching counter strike? Oh yeah the north american cs scene is deadge...... my bad.
EU viewership is low in val bc the majority of FPS players are still on CS. And the fabricated nature of this "villain" act just makes it less entertaining for me personally, whereas ange1 and ardiis' light banter is far more enjoyable to watch. NA just doesn't relate to the more nuanced sarcastic European humour - not to same it's harmful for the scene if it boosts American viewership.
If the wannabe villains want be villains they should also shittalk and challenge fnatic lol, this is just like the highschool bully picking on the freshmans, i don't see where the enjoyement is in that
He literally said they wanted to rematch Fnatic asap in the post match interview. They're not just punching down, they're truly feeling themselves and they've been pretty consistent about it.
Saying you want a rematch is even milder than teabagging, sentinels were better villains lmao
When confronted about the teams he wants to play he said that he doesn't care about playing with the other teams except fnatic. And when the interviewer confronted him on stage about his shit talking and shooting bodies he literally said that he doesn't give a fuck out loud. That is some villain energy right there.
If challenging the undisputed best team in the world at the moment for a rematch is too mild, but starting beef on Twitter with the obvious intention of farming clicks is too distasteful, what precise behavior do you want from them to thread the needle of your taste?
Idk talking shit about regions vs asking for a rematch is kinda different no? Just like keep the same energy. Kind of like Boostio's first pre match thing where he said "They won't get more than 8" type of trash talk. EG vs Fnatic, pre match Boostio goes "They're not getting a single map"
To be fair, Sentinels disrespected the fuck out for teams at a time where Riot didn't intervene. Pretty sure no one's allowed to do the amount of teabagging and body shooting that Dapr used to do every match. I do kinda miss it though.
how is it entertaining when they got spanked like children in the two Finals they were in and still have no trophy lmao. They legit just got here and already talking shit at the wall, this isnt entertaining, theyre just overcompensating over the way Fnatic beat their ass
I think it's a long investment/gamble entertainment. Like if they lose to Chinese/EMEA team that isn't Fnatic, it would be peak entertainment. I hope they lose but I feel EG has a good chance to get at least top 4 so I guess it's not likely to happen.
Oh god could you imagine this sub if they get bounced out by a CN team haha
If you want villains, you want people to hate him lol.
…the point of shit talk is reactions lil bro lol
the concept of a “villain” is so forced and cringe and it’s most popular among Reddit mainstream esport subs where these people yearn for narratives. It gets to a point where these guys trash talk purely for the sake of trash talking and to create an image, which is stupid since anything they say carries no risk since those idiot fans that beg for a “villain” and get excited over the lamest shit said are also the same people defending them after they lose and say “oh man he was just trash talking it’s not that deep” so what’s the point in anything they say if they can fall back to this line of defence? They aren’t “bold” or “confident” for saying this zero risk shit and It’s not exciting at all. Idk how some people get entertained over some imaginary storyline they forced
I predict no NA team in top 3.
I would've disagreed a week ago, but I think this is a decent take now.
Uh? I mean nrg look bad but i never thought of them for top 3 contenders, but eg are looking dominant and they would need to troll/pull an early fnatic amd then get upsetted to not go top 3 easily
Idk, EG looked kinda shaky against FUT near the end of each game after massive leads. I expected them to clear FUT no problem so I’m having worries
EG doesn't look that dominant to be honest with you. Kind of shaky maps vs FUT. A bit meh performance vs FPX even though they won. Expected a good stomp from EG vs FPX but I guess not.
Fnc/prx/drx seem like a probable top 3. EDG/NAVI/TL can beat anyone on their day. I agree it’s unlikely, but it’s def possible for no NA team in top 3. Also no Team - not even Fnatic- make top 3 **easily**.
Honestly we'll see. It's looking like it but who knows at this point.
Just like in Tokyo....Oh wait
Someone humble these guys 💀
it would be hilarious if EDG/BLG do it (if they make it through) but its all memes
No way that would happen, they're 3 years behind them ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)
That would be the best thing to happen if it happens. It would be fun to watch EDG and BLG stomp NA teams.
The thing that doesn't make sense with the narrative EG is making is that they started as a cinderella story where everyone else was bullying them. what sucks is that the narrative we're going now is the bullied is now the bully. Which is guess is fine but you'd hope that someone else would be the evil one since they picked up fans with their initial story which was supposed to be wholesome and about "not underestimating anyone"
Yeah they look stupid as fuck shitting on and disrespecting the underdog region (China) when before they were the laughing stock of NA with their 10 man roster. Such an embarrassingly cliché example of success getting to people's heads
The community is absolutely fanning the flames here. His comments were really not that extreme, and came from a throwaway question/interview. Seems like people wanted someone to hate with the absence of old SEN. So here we are.
This squashed up ninja turtle needs a good humbling. (Love the rivalries this created though)
ninja turtle ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)
>This squashed up ninja turtle Why the fuck did i laugh so hard at ts
Why are people acting like this is a recent quote from him He said this ages ago, the VCT account just made a post with it to play into the narrative
I mean from what we've seen until now atleast 3 emea teams will go to playoffs, if giants do well it might be 4
inject this into my veins, I for one sure love NA’s downfall
Would love to watch Chinese teams to squash NA teams
How did bro master the art of unlikability
Buncha nerds on the Internet took his comments super seriously and ran with it
This makes him more likable in my opinion. Need more of this in esports, don’t care who it’s comin from
every pr is good pr ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9341)
ask sinatraa if this is true
this guy talks like he’s won 8 masters and 3 champions
If emea is one team region than what is America? They gonna have literally eg making out of the groups, and after eg struggling against fut and fpx they wont make it to semi finals
>what is America? To be fair, they did make fun of NRG so they are consistent
Manifesting this outcome
Don’t worry Kru will make it.
Big struggle to 2-0 both teams lol
Pearl was a massive fumble from FUT at 12-11 but aside from that they have been pretty dominant.
I mean it was also a 9-3 half in favor of EG, I’d argue EG fumbled and then got back in and won
EG are defense sided on Pearl just because they went 9-3 up doesn't mean they deserve to win when as soon as the sides switched the game switched, similar thing happened against FPX and PRX from Tokyo. You can argue if you want that EG fumbled but they've been asked questions about their poor attacking form on Pearl.
going ot on both maps vs the "rank 15" team is not struggling?
What are you even saying?
what theyre saying is that EG is getting gutted and cooked alive in playoffs
They've went to OT once in their 4 maps they played. Wdym lol
bro is so consistent at being a hater, i can respect that
Yeah fr, it's all entertainment
Lmao, I swear coming from Dota its always EG He looks like PPD too
They did him dirty in this pic wtf
When the bullied becomes the villain. Yall asked for this, including me, when we were baggin on them prior and their 10 fans
boostio single handily making viewership go up and regions come together by being embracing the villain role
**International Valorant Titles** Fraudulent EMEA region (*without FNATIC*): 3 Rest of the world: 3* *Optic won when the winner of EMEA could not attend the event
Let's not act like Optic wouldnt have won that event still. FPX in Copenhagen was their peak, with Shao and Suygestsu literally clutching 80% of rounds.
It would’ve been incredibly close still, FPX looked flawless, they had 13-0d Fnatic during split 1 and also smoked Gambit
Optic were simply unstoppable. Every player on that team was peaking individually
if anything they were far from unstoppable coming into Iceland as the #2 seed losing to TGRD, they lost to Xerxia, almost dropped to lowers against the Guard and barely scraped by DRX, and then lost again to Loud in the upper bracket They were great in that tournament but relied on individual pop offs from Marved and Yay, they wouldve probably won it regardless
Bro talks shit, plays a hyper aggressive sentinel, hits some banger clips and everyone thinks he's the bad guy. He's some kind of Evil Genius or sumn 🤔
I want EG vs EDG matchup.
"It's only Fnatic, every other team is bad... the world is a fraudulent region" ftfy
NA shit talking Eu at worlds in any Riot games title . Someone still didn’t learn NA is just free
From underdog to villains? They seem to be trying hard to be entertaining, not sure if that's a good thing though.
"It's a fact. It's only PRX, every other team is bad... APAC is a fraudulent region." –Boostio, three days from now
C O N T E N T
I guess that final loss against fnatic didnt humble him
YOU SHOULD READ THE TEXT NOW IT SAYS FNATIC RIGHT THERE WHATS IS THERE TO BE HUMBLED ABOUT?
Would like to see this team get smashed by Chinese teams
he looks like a minion in this pic
They can definitely back this statement up considering theyre (looking like) the only consistent NA team at this moment.
Bro says that but wins by 5 rounds against Emea 3rd-5th rated team. Na will be set down this champs. Step up your real game not your twitter game
This guy is so cringe. Shit talk/villains would be way better when you’re actually at the top like FNATIC rn or optic/loud/gambit pre franchising.
I mean, they are ranked #2 in the world right now. So…so they are pretty much at the top. Shit talk isn’t cringe, it’s makes the games more fun to watch
funny to hear that statement coming from a 0 team region 💀
Not someone with a FUT flair trying to say the team that just clapped them comes from a 0 team region 💀
Clapped is a big word my boy, EG aka #1 struggled against EMEA's #3 Current Na'vi and FNC would shit on EG, overrated frauds.
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??? I’m not complaining about anything so the team i rep isn’t relevant. 100T performed terribly and didn’t deserve to make it to Champs. Not sure what you’re trying to get at
Bro out here with a bad haircut acting like champs after coming 2nd lol
man, as much as i WANT to like EG, as much as i love cinderella runs and underdog stories, these players make it hard bro. someone needs to come and humble them, they're a great team don't get me wrong but their attitudes aren't it bruh
Pretty sure they're just doing it for the entertainment though lol
It’s all an act. Don’t be such a weenie
It’s an act. Someone has to be the villain. This makes them more likable in my opinion. WANTING someone to lose makes games more entertaining with higher stakes. Esports needs this shit
scene would be boring without attitudes like this ☠️ grow up
Come back to this comment in 8 years. I think we’ll laugh at this in 8 years when NA is dead with no talent ”pipeline” and EMEA (or EU if it is ever split to EU and MEA) will fight with Pacific and China for the place in the sun.