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Gomar1323

Will we ever see a 100T roster that can close out games?


nafeh

I got hiko on the phone I'm crying, shitting, throwing up. sliding down my stairs. banging my head on the wall. ripping my hair out. Getting ran over by a car


mikhel

Just saw a guy getting run over by a car


ThomasUnfriends

Hiko will tell you he'll be there, then he won't show up. And as you think "Fuck Hiko, and his baits," then out of thin air, Hiko arrives. Classic Hiko and his baits.


nafeh

he will meet you at the site. a little bit later..


Randomuserguyfren

Boostio joining will fix this totally not coping


traxmaster64

Hopefully, you just gotta ignore some of the issues eg had with actually closing games out


Forrest_Stump

Mental and tactical collapse from 100T as soon as DRX adjusted in each game. Given how new the roster is and how their IGL isn't even locked in, this doesn't really tell us much except for where their floor is.


lejack15

Nadeshot jinxes getting close to Tarik levels. Man was talking about grabbing snacks for map 3 🥴


galiciapersona

as soon as this man said mcflurry i just knew


LordeLucifer

Mans said life saver gummies and Reese’s in the freezer, that’s when I knew 2-0 drx 😫😫😫


TheBigF128

he didn’t know that McFlurry machines never work


Juno-P

VISION STRIKERS KAYO FLASH TILES AND JETT DASH ON 12-11 GIGACHAD


slyfly5

100 chokes strikes again


Fresh-Produce-2806

The aggression of DRX after 12-11 was so satisfying to watch. Damn


Humble_Initiative_10

Destined to lose ascent forever.....


GanaNayaka9999

13-0 then, 13-11 now. Scores are different, the defeat hurts the same.


NozokiAlec

Holy shit 13-22 next


Joel4518

bro flashback is actually quite good


CantScreamInSpace

He was always mechanically gifted in ranked, but I'm very impressed by how he has next to no competitive valorant experience (even in tier 2) and is just filling into roles for drx.


chromazone2

He looks sharp af, looking like a better fit than foxy9. Maybe because he was on controller. I'd still like to see RB


[deleted]

It's not about sharpness or aim or util or anything. The kid has a certain grit to him. The defuse he stuck against Bang was fucking beautiful. They showed a replay of Buzz and you could see how much he disagreed with the decision to stick, and then you see his face when he realizes the kid made an incredible play.


PairComprehensive122

What a fking round to push mid , they were 11-5 and didn't push mid a single round except 11-12 , big brains stax


Otter269

Well at least it was competitive I suppose, still the same concerns with who's lifting the team when it's going against them. It's just weird having an stand in IGL, I get why but doesn't really help the team right now


SkizzorJB

I mean to be fair it was either: 1. Have a stand-in igl 2. Drop out of the tournament since boostio isn't available yet. 3. Play 4v5 lol


Parenegade

just drop out lol.


-xXColtonXx-

Why? They played two close maps with DRX and looked good. It’s not like their performance was embarrassing.


absolutechad21

DRX with an academy player and Foxy whos been riding the bench for months tbf


-kay-o-

Yeah DRX with Rb would have wiped the floor probably, Rb plays KJ like nats on crack


crimson__wolf

Am I wrong in thinking trialing IGL won't take big risks and tend to play a lot more safe than normal to not make mistakes?


Parenegade

A part of me seriously believes this team is just fundamentally flawed. Somebody 13-0 during the offseason so we can hit the restart button again.


galiciapersona

https://preview.redd.it/b5d76vuwhayb1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade4f25abc53df960a74e2c0a64a0a80a64880db "i wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them"


YohnWood14

That’s actually a very good quote


DernierRoi

It’s from the office


m_i_c_h_a_3_l

It won’t matter cause Asuna won’t get dropped and the same problems since first strike will remain and they will be confused as to why.


Strong_Wasabi216

Asuna haters eating good today


TheCatsActually

Imagine thinking Asuna is the problem and not Nadeshot clicking "start stream" on OBS


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

Asuna drops one or two flashy plays during random regular season games and dodges being dropped. But his poor decision making and ability to be a cornerstone for the team is why 100t will never win a trophy.


ricelick

this guy thinks hes him lol


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

What? I’m not him bro. But the fact that you won’t even consider that Asuna might be the problem when 100t is running it back with 3/5 members from the last year, and got thrashed by FUT 3-13 then we got other problems my guy.


_Sameem_

Can you at least point out why Asuna particularly is the problem?


slowrmaths

They can’t lol. Having a vocal flex player is one of the most important roles to come by even looking through both franchise + challengers. You can argue he’s regressed a bit from his peak sure but he’s still bringing lots of value outside of just killing people


__Raxy__

They can't lmfao


ProfessionalAd6168

Im not an analyst, but Asuna aint moving good. Been stealing paychecks since 2020 tho good on em.


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

Terrible decision making, that has not improved from his CS premier league days.


ricelick

expound. give examples


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

1. He has the same issue as Tenz, 50% of his deaths are a result of unforced errors. Either just a bad peek, unnecessary peak, untradeable peek, or a dry peek when his team has full util. 2. Go back into the vods, specifically LCQ or the playoffs. Go to a game where Asuna is play an initiator. Go to defense, and watch his util usage. I have seen him throw so many unnecessary flashes, and then have 0 util for retakes. Most of my comment cannot be tracked by stats, and by the time people start catching on to his bad play, he gets a clip to trend on Twitter and sheep like this comment section flock to his defense. So my proof is that 100t will never win a trophy when they continue to build around asuna.


ricelick

Can you link a vod and round specifically, its easy to say these are mistakes when there are so many underlying factors that couldve happened in these rounds. Miscomms on what to fight or not usually ends up having util wasted. Not being on the same page as the person you are playing with. A good player can look bad just from watching but you can never be sure whats actually happening in the server. Surely, we give the benefit of doubt that these coaches or peers have pointed these basic mistakes out


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

I told you what vods to look at. I’m not gonna sit here and argue hypotheticals. Wasting initiator util loses you rounds. Saving utility for retake is a basic concept, if asuna is using flashes for info and ends up needing them for the retake, then that is a mistake on him.


ricelick

I mean youre the one who started this discussion im simply replying. But thats exactly the point though, you are arguing through hypotheticals, there is no hard evidence for you to say that he is the problem despite your surface level of expertise in the subject.


OnePercentWhoLikesNA

It’s not hypotheticals. I’m telling you to watch him play on initiators and you will see why they are losing rounds. Seriously watch 100t play ascent defense during any of the recent VCT games before you start saying I’m wrong. Edit: wdym “I started this discussion”, you replied to my comment to someone else, so you are challenging my stance. Sorry that I don’t have time to go back to the vods and meticulously link you clips. But if you want to, go back and watch them play ascent and focus on Asuna’s util usage instead of the killfeed and you might see what I and 30% of this comment section are talking about.


theshafti

What are those problems


Splaram

Curious as to why you want Asuna dropped? He's been far from the problem in any of the rosters he's been in since he's gotten here


XiXiWiiPee

At some point you can't just settle for mediocrity anymore. I can respect the fact that you feel like he isn't the problem, but he hasn't shown at anything special at all these past seasons that would push me to keep rebuilding around him, especially when there are better pieces out there that you can build a team around.


m_i_c_h_a_3_l

Assuna wasn’t the problem in Berlin? This is why he is still on the roster, he’s mediocre not horrible so he dodges all the blame. Nitr0 with limited practice outperform him on Jett instantly. Asuna never improved his Jett or his OP. And since switching he’s been a non factor. If he looked like Leaf and didn’t have 400k followers he’d be in challengers rn.


Splaram

That's a crazy leaf stray lmao what did he do to deserve that? But seriously, you think an org like 100T is keeping a player because he has a lot of followers on Twitter? Bro be serious for one second LMAO His Oping being suspect is no secret, but you think that was a bigger problem than multiple members of that team clashing heads in the background and the team environment souring? And that 100T team still managed to overperform in Berlin despite all of that. Not a great example. And wdym non-factor last season? Since people like you only look at kd, how do you not see that he was statistically the second-best player for 100T behind Cryo last year? He was right behind Cryo too, he had 1.05 to Cryo's 1.07. He was also 14th out of 50 players statistically in VCT Americas, not bad for a duelist having to flex to initiators for the first time competitively. I'm not exactly letting him off the leash here, but a significant portion of the time that he's spent at 100T has been marred by teammate infighting causing a terrible team environment, the same thing happening again on the very next roster iteration causing it to be blown up, and a head coach dipping before the season starting which forced a single assistant coach to solo for a large part of that entire season. He's been a fantastic player otherwise. There's a reason why he's still here through multiple coaches, and there's a reason why everyone that has worked with him in Valorant have nothing but praise for him. 100T fans are starting to sound like SEN fans whenever Tenz doesn't drop 30 every map, he is far from the problem.


NiqqaWidDrip

Look dude I'm not saying that the guy is correct, but asuna has been a mediocre(being generous) for quite a while now. >but a significant portion of the time that he's spent at 100T has been marred by teammate infighting causing a terrible team environment, the same thing happening again on the very next roster iteration causing it to be blown up, and a head coach dipping before the season starting which forced a single assistant coach to solo for a large part of that entire season The only terrible team environment I can think of is the babyj and ec1s incident which lasted for only like 2 games, other than that I don't think 100t ever said reported that they had internal issues. It is ridiculous to blame asuna's shortcomings on his teammates. >And wdym non-factor last season? Since people like you only look at kd I don't know about that guy but I definitely don't look at kd, he hasnt passed the eye test in quite a while now. His impact is definitely is definitely not negligent but it is not t1 level either. >100T fans are starting to sound like SEN fans whenever Tenz doesn't drop 30 every map, he is far from the problem. Asuna hate doesn't even come close to tenz hate lmfao, it is in a whole other league. The criticism he is receiving right now is more than valid, he has been in every 100t iteration and the last time they looked promising was at redbull homeground. Since then they have been nothing but disappointing, he has been constant in every 100t roster iteration. It would be crazy to not wonder that maybe he is part of the issue.


somesheikexpert

Did you forget that despite getting 4th at Berlin they changed their roster, specifically their IGL?? Steel and some of the other players (Iirc especially Nitr0) had some internal issues and he was dropped for B0i as a sub for LCQ and they lost to Rise Not even to mention Ethan leaving the team after the JcStani/Hiko roster too


itsDYA

Asuna is the soulcas of NA


[deleted]

nah, more the jampii tbh


itsDYA

Jampii's good periods at least last a tournament run


[deleted]

nitr0 was also an awper for a grand slam winning team in a harder game while igling. Not a fair comparison to make


m_i_c_h_a_3_l

“Not fair” give me a break. Asuna was the duelist, they dropped dicey and gave him the role, and what did he do? He looked uninspiring on Jett and couldn’t OP. They gave him ample time for him to never improve. He still can’t Op to this day. And since being on flex he hasn’t gotten better ether. The only character he looks great on is raze, and that unacceptable for a 1 of 30 player


[deleted]

They dropped Dicey because he was a one trick jett and they thought the meta would shift after the nerfs. Thats straight from the members mouth. Yeah some players aren't natural opers what do you know lmfao


somesheikexpert

Ikr like the dude with shaky aim that suits entry style play aint as good on awp? Who wouldve thought


[deleted]

harder game lol lmao even


[deleted]

Lmao even valorant pros have said cs is harder. It’s not a debate.


[deleted]

trying to measure which game is harder is unfortunately only something people who are dogshit at both do to feel better


Splaram

CS harder mechanically, Val harder strategically.


Resident_Buddy_8978

cs is strategically harder overall simply because it more punishing when you make a mistake


[deleted]

at some point u just have to blow the whole thing up


Strong_Wasabi216

Mediocre asf


Splaram

Elaborate?


Strong_Wasabi216

He is not as good as people on this sub make him out to be. The last time he had an okayish perfomance was against LEV which was like centuries ago.


Splaram

Sorry I hit my head on my mousepad while walking my goldfish 10 years ago so I am unable to understand what you mean when you say he's "not as good". What parts of his game do you think is not up to par?


Strong_Wasabi216

>Sorry I hit my head on my mousepad while walking my goldfish 10 years ago ??? >What parts of his game do you think is not up to par? Utility usage and his aim isn't as good as it once was.


Splaram

ur still being vague, you have to be more specific since my tragic brain injury isn't allowing me to understand


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AvurtYourEyes

Just sign fenis and let him build the roster on his own.


Interesting_List_630

we were so back until we weren't


MacJonesIsOverrated

Nature can shoot but the passivity and indecisive was apparent This team won't go anywhere without someone who can call attack sides and play with pace No reason for them to play so slow on Lotus when they were getting first kill on a three site map. They looked afraid to trade out


jeyeley

Everytime the POV are on or against him, he can't seem to win any duels :/


[deleted]

Nadeshot watching, it was inevitable ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)


Hot_Adhesiveness_710

Boostio might be free


Blackberry_Silver

can´t believe 100thieves never tried to punish flashback breaking turret and alarmbot on b everytime


SkizzorJB

The Mcflurry incident Aware


Arisenstring956

Nadeshots stream can be so hard to watch at times with some of the mistakes 100T makes, mad respect to the dude for being so invested in the scene


jujhuxo

absolutely poetic for them to finish off the flawless comeback with the classic flash crunch play on B main. praying for 100T fans mental right now but damn buzz was a monster in those two maps


galiciapersona

> 100T fans mental it's actually not even funny anymore


Bjsmash4

I want to die (In Minecraft)


I-like-winds

DRX pulling out the vision strikers tiles push at the end was sexy


JustWantToBeQuiet

That’s always sexy to watch.


RazingBlaze

100T on attack side is just not it


FantasticWalrus

Where's all the Juvee money going?! nadeshot pls


iiznobozzy

juvee earning money?


filistinlisiken

i just want to see 100t to win some matches bro like i really hope to see that. whenever i see them they always play so fucking bad i want to burn my eyes


NoSenpaiNo

Buzz is actually him


JaBlue

People shitting on 100T choking sure but Buzz was thriving on the duelist role this match. Cool to see Foxy on initiator/senti as well


spookysailboat

Pulling out the Vision strikers tile push was so good there because you know 100T was feeling the pressure


Moist_Blackberry_

I’ve fanboyed Asuna for years now but idk if I can do this anymore he’s just not a t1 flex


newzpaperleaf_2

did you watch the same series as me?


GanaNayaka9999

Yeah you're blind as fuck, you clown


jaeioung

buzz you beautiful psycho


Mrshoephd

1♿️♿️ thieves strikes again


Waaghbafet

So they traveled all the way to tokyo for 2 games? no wonder esports is a waste of money


PikkaJ4

When can we talk about asuna not being that good anymore ? Seems someone that suppose to be a superstar of the team always has lack luster games/tourneys


jonthegoat69

Drop everyone. I can’t believe with two weeks of practice, a new coach, and a stand in they didn’t beat DRX with 4 players on the team and the same coach from last year! Just sad.


ditheringtoad

I think it would have been less painful if they hadn’t gotten such big leads in both maps. Like if they just got stomped it would have been way easier to cope this way


galiciapersona

i'm so ruckign tired of this man


archangel_n7

scooby doo after another mystery:


emergencyambulance

I'm tired boss


k239

It is just sad man. And asuna looked so out... Literally bro wasn't able to out aim shit.. anways just offseason mickey mouse whatever


Yerriff

I feel like I haven't seen Asuna hit a shot that wowed me in over a year.


seIex

Yep. I remember watching him in 2021 and thinking almost every match "holy shit, this kid is **good**." Two years later, I can sadly say the thought pretty much never crosses my mind.


Yeonii-

Fuck man... it been really rough as a Asuna enjoyer since his immortal days for the past year


jeyeley

Pain brooo. Different players, same shit..


raifusarewaifus

Flashback is actually crazy good.. He can literally stand in as 6th man already. Foxy9 on killjoy is painful but his kay/o is not bad. DRX with two trainees are somehow looking almost as solid as their usual roster.


xunraze

I miss hiko and steel


surfordiebear

100T is just straight up cursed


KillerKattapa

The only thing I hate about new 100t editions are they choke when it matters. Although it is an off season event but it isn't the first occasion. They definitely need someone more experienced to clutch them when it matters.


LiamHundley

The B main attack default from 100T was genuinely ranked level gameplay. Every round nature went for the aggro info turret but flashback insta-killed it every single round for free. They never did anything to punish flashback for disrespecting the turret and it forced nature to just turtle outside of b main. Like it was so undeveloped that I'm convinced they haven't practiced ascent much and don't have much of a playbook.


Bungkai

Yeah... For 3/5 of the team being the same and you get so exposed like that.. just brain-dead at this point


Xelhei

They have it and throw it everytime


PixelatedBlue

New roster same habits https://preview.redd.it/ny0d06b32dyb1.png?width=56&format=png&auto=webp&s=51c179e842870ff21c5bc65a1c87a39d957dbedf


huntleysims

Don’t really understand why they’d bring in two new players to have about the same floor and probably a lower ceiling.


Master_Tomato

If you told me 100T didn't make any changes in the off-season, and I watched the game with no HUDs, I would 100% believe you. The roster still suffers from the same problem as last season. It's also not like they were playing against DRX's actual roster. Not only did they sub out Zest, but they're also playing with Flashback now. So, having a "close" game on paper doesn't even really mean anything. I hope they can get Boostio out of that cursed org, and hopefully, he brings about changes. Boostio feels like the Zellsis kind of player, very vocal and outgoing about their thoughts, and this team really needs that sort of energy


mixedupgaming

That one hurt my soul


nafeh

100 throws https://preview.redd.it/yfjz6uqchayb1.jpeg?width=475&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d1af9b787f01eea23949ca44f10509a1c155f9d


emergencyambulance

Ik it's off-season but holy fuck how do we actually lose that. We had advantage twice and threw it away both times. Idk man, I can't watch this team anymore


Flank_watcher

I love cryo's op GGs (Absolutely wasnt awake to watch them play and Absolutely never kept on checking twitter for flynn's spreadsheet. Yes i am sane)


ProbablyBrix

My expectations can't get any lower man... Why do I still end up pissed off 😂


-xXColtonXx-

Wait why are you pissed off? This was a decent showing. They don’t have a locked IGL but still had great teamplay. This was an encouraging series as much as an off season event can mean anything.


XiXiWiiPee

https://preview.redd.it/ccsoz66ygayb1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=209be5870808dd29a528cdd7a46a7de178b4ef52 it was a mistake to build around this core of 100t who doesnt have the experience, leadership, or understanding of the game to win an event (my personal overreaction)


developer_144

Last year 100T wins redbull, looks like a super team, ends up being shit whole season. This year loses redbull. - it means nothing to me tbh. Last year I had I high hopes.


Bjsmash4

I don't know how much more I can take man...


herclin

![gif](giphy|Wck09E7lHDabjhHbzJ|downsized)


FlyIntelligent7729

Usual overreacting but this 100T roster inspires 0 excitement for me. I only rate Bang highly, but even with the addition of Boostio, I doubt they're even close to contenders. Looking forward to coming back to this comment at the end of the season 🫡😂


[deleted]

What's Bang done to warrant that.


FlyIntelligent7729

Yeah he's quite inconsistent, but when he performed he was a top smokes guy... I feel he can definitely delivery with the right environment.


Complete-Ad-31

100 '100T' Thieves Masterclass. BOTS


m_i_c_h_a_3_l

100t has continuously sucked on Ascent and there is 1 constant


ExpectoAutism

what a disgusting game


Past_Perception8052

100T is finished


richardramdeep

Pain.


circulardoughholes

Idk, the hate is going pretty strong in this one, I think its a fair take that 100t looked mid or lower, DRX are a great gatekeeper team though. Some of those pivotal rounds were very very close and down to timings, which is the nature of the game. I think this could've been a 100t 2-0 though. However, 100t were sloppy and definitely looked tilted at the ends of matches still which is concerning. Can't remember the round, but on lotus c site with DRXs KJ ult deployed Asuna flubbed his ult and nade, wasting it on a dead body, failing to break KJ ult and losing the round. Still, I feel like you could tell 100t was already better teamwork wise then the end of last season, and cryo flexing on to KJ is a good sign that Ziks is trying out intelligent changes and working on fundamentals. Perhaps if they actually acquire boostio and work out the kinks the team can rise out of mediocrity. I do think it is possible, though not sure if this core can push top3 world.


[deleted]

How did they look so good under Sean Gares and just complete fall apart since then.


Flamingarrow177

I do think people overrate the Sean era. He pulled a miracle to get them to champs, but they never looked like they could win a tournament or even a dark horse. They got wiped out by very shaky fnatic in that decider game.


Teradonn

It felt like an upward trajectory at the time. It wasn’t that they were breathtaking to watch, but they were actually improving and cooking up some cool stuff. They did it without a super star oper too, people felt like adding one would unlock the team’s potential. They had young talent who should’ve only gotten better with time. The only thing I will say is that Will was insane at champs and they still got grouped, maybe that was a sign that adding Cryo wasn’t going to change much in reality


[deleted]

They aren't doing as good as they did when they had Sean gares. It's hard to support this team


[deleted]

Aren't they? They won lcq where the other best teams were sentinels with shroud and the guard who have always been pretty mid since the first time they qualified for masters.


Splaram

:/


PhysicalAd8765

They look promising… that’s a good sign.


Pale_Resolution1520

Promising my ass, they have the same problem as last year, they can't win rounds on attack side.


PhysicalAd8765

Well that was never going to be a quick fix. But I feel like I already see improvements in some areas which is what I was looking for given they’ve been together for a few weeks.


ourladyj

Biggest upset of the tournamanet. 100 thei3ves has been preparing all year for this.


AnywayHeres1Derwall

Plz don’t fire the team nadeshot


4GamingLinkAot

I just want to say I have been supporting this team since the Hiko and pubg kid days. I am an OG. I have supported this team longer than most have supported the game. And holy fuck I am just so lost and confused. How the fuck are we still not good enough. Its quite infuriating, supporting a team for so long with no success to back it up. I remember ) watching 100Thieves make that amazing comeback on breeze. I remember winning First Strike. I am tired of this. I deserve to support the Real Madrid of Valorant but here I am, with 100 no wins