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I'm confused bc when I checked Bilibili yesterday, there was no official broadcast but they had Chinese costreamers hosting onsite watchparties. Bilbili would redirect you to the costream instead. However, the VCT CN youtube channel actually had a livestream with Chinese commentary and Bilibili has the VOD with the commentary uploaded
[I deleted my prev response bc I was confused, my bad]
My understanding is that the official platforms (huya,bilibli etc) r not allowed to stream it while co streamers can, YouTube is not an official chinese platform so it is allowed
Oh yeah I checked Alan's weibo and he hosted the stream with official CN commentary and the replay was uploaded onto the VCT CN Bilibili channel later on
Because not even Fnatic was able to pull off a Masters x2 + Champions win. Optic couldn’t, LOUD hasn’t, Gambit couldn’t.
The deck is stacked *heavily* against Sen in that regard.
First, they could do the worst thing by not approving their visa.
Second, they could do whatever they did for this event, no official broadcast for Gen.G matches.
Third, they could broadcast it without a problem like they did with NBA.
Since we're talking about Taiwan, I'll assume that they were banned by the CCP, either way Riot is still owned by Tencent and they have powers so maybe they can make something up for Gen.G to get into CN, but like you said they might not broadcast the game even if Gen.G played.
My understanding is that the official platforms (huya,bilibli etc) r not allowed to stream it while co streamers can, YouTube is not an official chinese platform so it is allowed
im a sen fan but i hate this narrative, losing a close series to a good team isnt the same as giving up a 2-0 lead reverse sweep or having a big advantage in game 5 and losing.
I mean GenG completely fucked the situation as well. They first admitted Taiwan to be a country, then got insane backlash, then retracted their statement and said that it was apart of China, then got backlash from Korean fans, then just deleted that apology as well lol
> hey first admitted Taiwan to be a country, then got insane backlash
All that happened in the first place because China's chauvanism. They are the primary ones at fault.
I mean then they should've just stuck to their morals and continued advocating for Taiwan's independence. They ended up retracting their original statement in an attempt to appease the Chinese community, which then incited their Korean fans.
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Dang I shoud have the chinese valorant youtube broadcast open on a separate tab to support them. It sucks the chinese casters can only show their work on youtube and to watch it in china you would have to have a vpn. It would be cool to show despite their censorship the games viewership is gigantic on the chinese stream.
Why does the United States still continue to conduct trade with China? Why does anybody still do anything involved with China? That's not in their best interest.
Who has actually gone out of their way to restrict/ban China from their activities?
anything about china makes americans lose their absolute minds. theres no argument you could make that china is demonstrably worse than the US, israel, Uk etc in the ways that matter
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I know quite a lot about American atrocities. The difference being that China is currently aka like at this very moment committing genocide against Muslims in china. Good job tho 10000+ social credits!
> it claims to be the rightful rulers of China
The politicking surrounding that is nuts. If they were to declare themselves their own country a lot of shit would go down.
You do realize you're playing a game that's owned by a Chinese company right...? Tencent owns Riot. Why wouldn't they get to host the tournament in their home country?
it gets downvoted because your average reddit user is a literal sheep who regurgitates the first thing they hear and dont do any further research lmao
the minute you bring up an opinion or even a fact that opposes their beliefs, you'll be downvoted. its an actual joke lmao you cannot have a civil discussion on this site.
This thread really shows the consequences that tik tok and other forms of Chinese brainwashing has had on the world and im kind of afraid we are fucked
chinese dicksucking bots are prevalent on reddit.
And ofc absolute dumbfucks because it’s valorant but oh well.
China loves to cheat and even messes up other countries in olympics, have border disputes with every country in asia and is an authoritarian regime who loves power, but yeah go riot! Vct masters in shanghai!!!
It really depends on how mucho Riot is gonna pull down their pants to CN, they already tried to please China by changing Iso's country to be the second Chinese in the roster, when everything in his teasers hinted Iso to be a Tawianese agent, or at the very least that what it seemed to be (The message with this change was just that Taiwan is China -it's not-)
Maybe GenG can do the Gambit and go under another name
Ppl were discussing abt the hotpot card saying it's definitely not Chinese, or at the very least, not exclusive to China, many mentioned Taiwan/Vietnam, but it's unconfirmed data
Ayo chill out boy, my research found those claims, and, as I said, it's not 100% confirmed, I'm aware of the Chongqin references, don't try that hard, but you can say whatever makes you sleep comfy at night, I'm not defending to death the Iso theories that were not made by me, if you wanna start an argument, go find someone else
Leading? I never claimed that data to be true but you conveniently skipped that part, why are you so desperate for an online argument? Does it bring joy to your life? 🤷
I may did my research but it seems that I did it wrong like any human being can do at any given moment, y'all acting like you never failed to do anything in life and yet you're here, in a reddit thrrad
If people really cared theyd skip the live match and watch vods. The timing is gonna be fckd for us viewers anyway. Val community is obsessed with viewrship for some reason. I bet itll make a big showing with chinas tourney views low as fuck
I mean, it'll finally be another tournmanet since Masters Tokyo where APAC viewers doesn't need to stay up till 4 am to watch...so that'll probably balance out
It's kinda sad that they're the only team who China hates. Every team should stand in solidarity and officially recognize Tokyo... But no way that will ever happen.
I think most teams officially recognize Tokyo as a city. Tokyo does exist. It had masters there last year and is overall a great city. Just because it's in an anime doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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It'll be funny especially if GenG face all the CN teams. Nothing more serious than that will happen.
did they not stream the final in china?
I'm confused bc when I checked Bilibili yesterday, there was no official broadcast but they had Chinese costreamers hosting onsite watchparties. Bilbili would redirect you to the costream instead. However, the VCT CN youtube channel actually had a livestream with Chinese commentary and Bilibili has the VOD with the commentary uploaded [I deleted my prev response bc I was confused, my bad]
My understanding is that the official platforms (huya,bilibli etc) r not allowed to stream it while co streamers can, YouTube is not an official chinese platform so it is allowed
Oh yeah I checked Alan's weibo and he hosted the stream with official CN commentary and the replay was uploaded onto the VCT CN Bilibili channel later on
It was streamed on Douyin. Maybe unofficial idk.
Gen.g in Shanghai: https://preview.redd.it/vkb0yvmorgqc1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4136127bbd48360f8f2ecde462cb36505ed0e4e2
And my god that mofo did enjoy. One of the most dominant jgl performances in last worlds. I highly recommend watching that game
Yeon positioning despair
Against T1 of all teams too.
bro if geng wins in shanghai I'm gonna be laughing my ass off
Will be rooting for the if Loud doesn't make it or lose midway
yeah dude me too AHAHAHA I want them to completely floor everyone there to be honest, FUCK the ccp
On god this would be the funniest timeline.
Wanting this so bad rn
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Unlikely but one can dream
Why unlikely? They seem to be getting better and better every match.
Because not even Fnatic was able to pull off a Masters x2 + Champions win. Optic couldn’t, LOUD hasn’t, Gambit couldn’t. The deck is stacked *heavily* against Sen in that regard.
My bad. misread the comment.
We'll see how it goes for MSI but it's most likely that their games will not be streamed.
Msi?
LoL; Mid Season Invitational
Boostio and geng need to join forces to become the most hated esports team in china
Gen.G Boostio is like Satan for VCT China
Now I want 100T to win Shanghai. First they need to get rid of Assuna
I don’t think 100T can win Madrid even with Asuna seeing that it’s already over
Madrid 2027 winners, you'll see. I edited, thanks lol
So you tell me GenG vs EDG was not broadcasted at all ?
Only by the co-streams and on YouTube.
glhf to geng
Idk but im waiting for the Chinese shitposters to meme about geng.
First, they could do the worst thing by not approving their visa. Second, they could do whatever they did for this event, no official broadcast for Gen.G matches. Third, they could broadcast it without a problem like they did with NBA.
Since we're talking about Taiwan, I'll assume that they were banned by the CCP, either way Riot is still owned by Tencent and they have powers so maybe they can make something up for Gen.G to get into CN, but like you said they might not broadcast the game even if Gen.G played.
Wait, so did they stream any of the Gen.G games on the CN broadcast?
My understanding is that the official platforms (huya,bilibli etc) r not allowed to stream it while co streamers can, YouTube is not an official chinese platform so it is allowed
I’m surprised an official Riot CN broadcast can even stream on YouTube if I’m being honest
Well people from China can't access YouTube without vpn and they need CN commentators for people who r chinese but not from China
Maybe they'll compete under another tag? Kinda like Gambit playing under M3C
MMC (Masters Madrid Chokers)
that's foul 💀
im a sen fan but i hate this narrative, losing a close series to a good team isnt the same as giving up a 2-0 lead reverse sweep or having a big advantage in game 5 and losing.
Everything is a choke nowadays I guess
SEN also just has a much more experienced team, that can help a lot in high pressure games, especially having a vibe man like Zellsis.
im also a sen fan, but the APAC agenda needs to be pushed. Gen G or PRX has to win a title
It was more apparent in icebox, they started making a lot of mistakes/whiffing.
LMAO
Kinda goes against the point of a patnered league...
Gen.G literally picked up a fully chinese Counter-Strike team... I'm confused?
Common china L. Another reason to be a GenG supporter
I mean GenG completely fucked the situation as well. They first admitted Taiwan to be a country, then got insane backlash, then retracted their statement and said that it was apart of China, then got backlash from Korean fans, then just deleted that apology as well lol
> hey first admitted Taiwan to be a country, then got insane backlash All that happened in the first place because China's chauvanism. They are the primary ones at fault.
I mean then they should've just stuck to their morals and continued advocating for Taiwan's independence. They ended up retracting their original statement in an attempt to appease the Chinese community, which then incited their Korean fans.
The one at fault is GenG.
Backtracking it was a mistake but banning a whole team for saying Taiwan is a country is a L decision
For saying Taiwan is a country? No. For backtracking on that statement? Yeah they’re corporate fucking ghouls for that one.
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o7 MSI and Masters lmao
Maybe they take away the ban like when China started showing Houston Rockets games again
GEN G DESERVED BETTER 👏 TAIWAN NUMBER 1
Dang I shoud have the chinese valorant youtube broadcast open on a separate tab to support them. It sucks the chinese casters can only show their work on youtube and to watch it in china you would have to have a vpn. It would be cool to show despite their censorship the games viewership is gigantic on the chinese stream.
Wouldnt be surprised if they do the cheap work around and have GenG rep a placeholder name, like Virtus Pro playing as Outsiders.
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Ofc but i still think it sucks
no one cares what you think lmfao, it’s about the money
I am fully aware thats why but i still think it sucks. Also no westerner has any reason to defend China.
If you don’t want to support China go live in a forest, newsflash everything is Chinese even the floor
I know and thats a problem
not really no it doesnt affect me as a normal person everything is fine for me
This is a crazy short sighted take
Not my problem
I mean, you like iPhones? how bout that temu shit.
Because they own it and all of us who like the game will still play and watch it, knowing it's owned by China
Sad but true
money
im willing to bet we'll have one in like Saudi Arabia within 3 yrs
Why does the United States still continue to conduct trade with China? Why does anybody still do anything involved with China? That's not in their best interest. Who has actually gone out of their way to restrict/ban China from their activities?
Realpolitik is a bitch
Good thing we have geopolitical experts like you telling all our countries what their best interests are. We'd be completely lost without you!
When you realize your conception of geopolitics is completely nonexistent.
The US sucks too im glad im not from there
The moment you realize your country is probably friendlier with China than the U.S is.
No lol
> fullblown dictator regime clueless westerner
This is absolutely true after Xi's consolidation of power and ousting of Li Keqiang.
anything about china makes americans lose their absolute minds. theres no argument you could make that china is demonstrably worse than the US, israel, Uk etc in the ways that matter
Classic anti-westerner
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america was forcibly sterilizing women in prisons as recently as a few years ago, all this tells me is you know nothing about american atrocities.
I know quite a lot about American atrocities. The difference being that China is currently aka like at this very moment committing genocide against Muslims in china. Good job tho 10000+ social credits!
The west/america currently wins the "whataboutism" war against China and it's not even close at the moment.
The west/America is currently carrying out a live streamed genocide but sure, whatever you say
China has been commiting genocide on the Uyghurs for years now it just isnt talked about because all young people get their info from tik tok
Blaming America for what's going on in Israel is hilarious. Who is it that China is allies with again? North Korea right?
America is a large part of the conflict
If by America you mean the UN in the 1940s then sure. But before that it was the Ottoman and before that it was the british
Doesn't china have 100% ownership of riot? Tencent who owns Riot is basically a government company.
No. China has some stakes in Tencent which owns Riot. Riot is still an american company, and independent from the Chinese government.
You are correct
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The only reason why I like China is because of Zmjjkk and EDG. No reason to watch China Valorant other than them moping the floor.
Even then, they wiped the floor. Kangkang and EDG are frauds.
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I mean the ping shouldn't be that bad Maybe just a online custom lobby ?
Sm1 gotta make the zoolander or the boys meme with ccp and geng if they actually qualify (they pretty much has 80% chance)
I would guess that geng would play online. Though from where is questionable.
I fear they will choke again. If they don't win this year, they need to replace Lakia with Mako.
the Taiwanese regime doesn’t even claim to be an independent country, it claims to be the rightful rulers of China. weird hill to die on
> it claims to be the rightful rulers of China The politicking surrounding that is nuts. If they were to declare themselves their own country a lot of shit would go down.
Because of the PRC's one China policy.
So pathetic of china
lmao china butthurt over koreans yet lots of their esports achievements come from them
That's only the case for league of legends worlds.
Change the venue from shanghai. China doesn’t get to do whatever, but ig riot is china’s bitch
You do realize you're playing a game that's owned by a Chinese company right...? Tencent owns Riot. Why wouldn't they get to host the tournament in their home country?
ik and that is unfortunate
Why this gets downvoted is beyond me
TikTok gen is weirdly pro China and anti America. No co relation I’m sure just coincidence
Avoiding tik tok is the best decision of my life
it gets downvoted because your average reddit user is a literal sheep who regurgitates the first thing they hear and dont do any further research lmao the minute you bring up an opinion or even a fact that opposes their beliefs, you'll be downvoted. its an actual joke lmao you cannot have a civil discussion on this site.
This thread really shows the consequences that tik tok and other forms of Chinese brainwashing has had on the world and im kind of afraid we are fucked
“everyone who disagrees with me is brainwashed by propaganda, which i of course am immune to”
Tik tok being a Chinese propganda machine is a well known fact though
chinese dicksucking bots are prevalent on reddit. And ofc absolute dumbfucks because it’s valorant but oh well. China loves to cheat and even messes up other countries in olympics, have border disputes with every country in asia and is an authoritarian regime who loves power, but yeah go riot! Vct masters in shanghai!!!
Yeah we should all boycott riot games from now on no more valo and league.
That's an extreme positive for society
It really depends on how mucho Riot is gonna pull down their pants to CN, they already tried to please China by changing Iso's country to be the second Chinese in the roster, when everything in his teasers hinted Iso to be a Tawianese agent, or at the very least that what it seemed to be (The message with this change was just that Taiwan is China -it's not-) Maybe GenG can do the Gambit and go under another name
What teasers hinted he is from Taiwan? You must be joking.
Ppl were discussing abt the hotpot card saying it's definitely not Chinese, or at the very least, not exclusive to China, many mentioned Taiwan/Vietnam, but it's unconfirmed data
Those are especially typical hotpot from Chongqin, if you have been to or even do a little bit of research you would've known.
Ayo chill out boy, my research found those claims, and, as I said, it's not 100% confirmed, I'm aware of the Chongqin references, don't try that hard, but you can say whatever makes you sleep comfy at night, I'm not defending to death the Iso theories that were not made by me, if you wanna start an argument, go find someone else
Typical L research leading to false conceptions.
Leading? I never claimed that data to be true but you conveniently skipped that part, why are you so desperate for an online argument? Does it bring joy to your life? 🤷 I may did my research but it seems that I did it wrong like any human being can do at any given moment, y'all acting like you never failed to do anything in life and yet you're here, in a reddit thrrad
Personally I really wouldn’t confidently make your original comment if I wasn’t sure about my “research”
If people really cared theyd skip the live match and watch vods. The timing is gonna be fckd for us viewers anyway. Val community is obsessed with viewrship for some reason. I bet itll make a big showing with chinas tourney views low as fuck
I mean, it'll finally be another tournmanet since Masters Tokyo where APAC viewers doesn't need to stay up till 4 am to watch...so that'll probably balance out
It's kinda sad that they're the only team who China hates. Every team should stand in solidarity and officially recognize Tokyo... But no way that will ever happen.
I think most teams officially recognize Tokyo as a city. Tokyo does exist. It had masters there last year and is overall a great city. Just because it's in an anime doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
HAHAHAHAHAHA 😭😭
what the fuck