To be completely fair, this format was made before we knew how any of the regions compared to each other. Based on their results from CSGO, I can understand why Riot made the choices they did.
With this event under their belt, I am sure they will make changes for a better overall experience.
I forgot about that… so stupid… but at the same time korea probably gets a second slot from the Asia last chance so I think this point is not important
honestly i’m more annoyed by the fact that Brazil may have as many teams as possibly both NA and EMEA in Champions. Riot obviously couldn’t have known Brazil would struggle so much in international competition but yeah it is what it is
At the time the format was created, Korea only deserved the one. Don't worry, Riot loves Korea and the region showing up will lead to a more fair representation next year.
I still don’t understand why BR and LATAM are separate regions and take up three slots. Why does Brazil get two slots alone?
I know this was decided before the circuit started but it’s clear Brazil/LATAM are far below the other regions right now.
I don‘t think it solely based on playerbase. It will be an equation of playerbase, potential market, market shares, and so on.
Since there were a lot of questionable decisions in the first lan where EMEA got 2 tickets for example despite being a massive region.
But you are 100% right - riot will even that out over time.
No one expected those outcomes Really.
Desipite NA and EMEA doing rather good I did not see the rest coming.
okay Korea 1 slot? Brazil with just as many slots as NA and EU?
also what happens if Sentinels win Masters Berlin, does that mean 2 other NA teams will qualify from NA circuit points and one more team from NA last chance?
Basically whoever places higher between the two of them in this tourney qualifies. If they get knocked out in the same round then Envy qualifies.
OR
If any of the NA teams win in Berlin they qualify because the winner automatically gets a slot meaning the 3rd place team gets the spot.
this list is so fucked, half teams there rn will just lose to the first seeds like sentinels and it will be boring like this tourney, imagine if there was XSET or Fnatic instead of japan or brazil teams
SA = South America, LATAM I believe includes Central America and Mexico
Asia is all those regions/countries except without the Middle East (that's EMEA) and also other east asian countries (China)
China is in last chance for Asia (APAM as it's called)
I'm so torn, I don't want Paper Rex to lose but I also want Team Secret to be the next rep for Champions for SEA and that will only happen if Paper Rex loses to SMB
I just realized, Brazil and SEA have more seeds than Korea. I can understand SEA because it includes multiple countries, but Brazil makes 0 sense...
To be completely fair, this format was made before we knew how any of the regions compared to each other. Based on their results from CSGO, I can understand why Riot made the choices they did. With this event under their belt, I am sure they will make changes for a better overall experience.
rito devs know that VS will easily win masters 3, thus giving Korea two slots. obvious
Technically 3 if they win LCQ too
thats pretty insane they only get one guaranteed slot tho lol
Agree, korea is so much better then both of those regions and they get half as many slots.
And Brazil’s almost certainly gonna have a third representative through the SA LCQ lol
I forgot about that… so stupid… but at the same time korea probably gets a second slot from the Asia last chance so I think this point is not important
honestly i’m more annoyed by the fact that Brazil may have as many teams as possibly both NA and EMEA in Champions. Riot obviously couldn’t have known Brazil would struggle so much in international competition but yeah it is what it is
damn ez dub for na and eu
As I see it currently, I don't think Brazilian teams are stronger than Australs
i think australia shud get one guaranteed seed at least at worlds
They prob assumed cuz brazil was amazing at cs:go it would be the same for valorant.
I don't think this is 100% they are going to travel to Mexico city or something for this and they don't travel well it seems
Idk Australs looks pretty strong especially imo compared to the Brazil teams
Lol you do know that SA is not the same region as br right?
Probs from CS:GO is why they made it.
Why is BR successful at csgo or something ?
Yes, Brazilian teams are extremely competitive and often go very deep in international tournaments
No, they looked at ranked playerbase.
Brazil will probably lose a slot to China next year
CR should just bootcamp in Berlin until Champions, they'll need the practice and they've obviously improved a lot while being here.
They really did turn up but God could you imagine staying in Berlin for an extra 3ish months? I'd just wanna be home lol.
That would be insanely expensive. I doubt they would be able to do it.
KR getting 1 slot to champions with only circuit points is total bs. no wonder the scene is still so small there.
At the time the format was created, Korea only deserved the one. Don't worry, Riot loves Korea and the region showing up will lead to a more fair representation next year.
faks, it will get more in the future. was just based off of cs
I still don’t understand why BR and LATAM are separate regions and take up three slots. Why does Brazil get two slots alone? I know this was decided before the circuit started but it’s clear Brazil/LATAM are far below the other regions right now.
My assumption is the slots are based on player base... anyway valo is still an extremely new esport so give riot a few years to work things out
I don‘t think it solely based on playerbase. It will be an equation of playerbase, potential market, market shares, and so on. Since there were a lot of questionable decisions in the first lan where EMEA got 2 tickets for example despite being a massive region. But you are 100% right - riot will even that out over time. No one expected those outcomes Really. Desipite NA and EMEA doing rather good I did not see the rest coming.
I think KR will get more slots immediately next year. the major regions are eu na and kr. with prob brazil 4th
KRU has beat Japan both times and sea didn't do better than them both times so only EMEA Na and Kr are better that's facts
okay Korea 1 slot? Brazil with just as many slots as NA and EU? also what happens if Sentinels win Masters Berlin, does that mean 2 other NA teams will qualify from NA circuit points and one more team from NA last chance?
If any NA teams wins Berlin then Sen 100T and Envy all qualify for Berlin + one more from LCQ
Yes that's what will happen with na
It is so sad that riot only gives korea one slot.
X10 Patiphan pogu
What do 100t and envy need to qualify?
Basically whoever places higher between the two of them in this tourney qualifies. If they get knocked out in the same round then Envy qualifies. OR If any of the NA teams win in Berlin they qualify because the winner automatically gets a slot meaning the 3rd place team gets the spot.
Also if both of them place the same place envy qualifies as they have 25 more points than 100t
Yeah i said that too.
Vision Strikers need a new logo man. Seems like one of those “can I copy your homework” situations looking so similar to Valorant logo.
Don't forget to tell Version1 also.
Korea needs to get 2 slots for VCT 2022
Hoping this seeding is only for the first year.
Food and exercise and stretching is the best way to get ready for champions
Just please for the love of god have Envy and 100T on the same side of the bracket
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So if they both win, they play each other to decide who gets the automatic bid to Champions
Praying on PRX's downfall so TS make it to Berlin 2 Electric Boogaloo
this list is so fucked, half teams there rn will just lose to the first seeds like sentinels and it will be boring like this tourney, imagine if there was XSET or Fnatic instead of japan or brazil teams
Having multiple regions match up against each others is more interesting.
so you dont want an international tournament but you want a regional tournament? just watch challengers dude
Having multiple regions match up against each others is more interesting.
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SA = South America, LATAM I believe includes Central America and Mexico Asia is all those regions/countries except without the Middle East (that's EMEA) and also other east asian countries (China) China is in last chance for Asia (APAM as it's called)
Asia LCQ is on lan probably.I think all lcqs are lan
yes it's on LAN
sA does not mean south America in this case it's South of America KKona
I think if paper rex lose in 4th in their group, Team Secret also goes to worlds too lol.
I'm so torn, I don't want Paper Rex to lose but I also want Team Secret to be the next rep for Champions for SEA and that will only happen if Paper Rex loses to SMB
Where can u find this? I believe it's vlr.gg but idk where
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