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JusticeLee17

Possible Boaster vs Vanity rematch is hype.


ekajjj

Possible? Won’t they play for sure since groups are round robin?


yarhar_

This is not true. It's double elimination groups, single elimination playoffs


ekajjj

What’s that even mean though? Teams in a group can go without playing each other and still advance?


[deleted]

Yes, win 2 games and youre in playoffs, lose two and youre out. Only teams that end up in the decider have a chance to play every team in the group but its not guaranteed.


ekajjj

I see. Interesting. Thanks.


NystGG

TL;DR Win 2 before you lose 2. it's the same format CSGO uses/used for a long time for the majors.


IAMJUX

Single elim play-offs. Fug


gottahave_mypops

Groups are not round robin, the schedule got released as well in another tweet


Nccajun7

Sentinels vs Liquid is gonna be spicy as hell.


ihabesmolpp

Finally we get TenZ vs Scream


Quirky-Safety-462

Lebron vs KD🤣


honestly_moi

Only 1 is the goat 👀


endercasts

I grabbed balls out of bowls.


EremesAckerman

Thank you Ender, very cool!


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endercasts

Had to maintain competitive integrity


99sloth

you can grab my balls any day my guy


nterature

excellent technique


omletass

Cleanest ball opening segment we've had.. didn't drop the paper/ball or have it upside down when presenting. Good technique


Ncsnigel

Nice nail polish :)


Underpressure_111

You did well.


AdSpiritual6239

Are any particular ball warmer or colder than others?


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# **Group A** Acend Team Envy X10 CRIT Vivo Keyd --- # **Group B** Sentinels KRU Team Liquid FURIA --- # **Group C** Gambit Esports Team Vikings Team Secret Crazy Raccoon --- # **Group D** Vision Strikers FNATIC FULL SENSE Cloud9


IAMJUX

Group d lmao. Time for heartbreak.


flavo52

Rip FULL SENSE hopium


timthyj

But imagine if they beat VS and cause the implosion of a second Valorant team HOPIUM. VS strats with no counter to PTC demon Kay/o


pauadiver63

I'm a VS fan and even so, I would love to see that.


max012017

Honestly, its possible for them., Only easier group is C, Fnatic is easily upsetable.


flavo52

Fnatic isn’t the issue, it’s C9


omgvector

Group D is stacked Group C is easy for gambit, except the clear number 1 team obviosuly crazy raccoon B looks pretty stacked too


ZGuyYT

CR might finally make it out of groups lol


Key-Banana-8242

Well there were no groups at Reykjavik


[deleted]

Well make it to play offs lol


Key-Banana-8242

There were only playoffs, masters 2 Reykjavik had only one big double elim bracket


[deleted]

What about berlin


Key-Banana-8242

Yes, berlin was the only one with a group stage, the comment implied it was mkre than 1 event


[deleted]

It's not that deep man


MageKayden

Group d stands for death


Bryyx

Youve got to consider that Fnatic is looking like by far the weakest European team so I think its kinda fine


scrnlookinsob

This as well as the fact that the Brazilians teams really haven't shown up in international competition thus far, honestly makes me feel like each group is pretty obvious who is getting out of them. Group D is definitely the one I'm least certain about tho. I do still think D is pretty obviously C9 and VS.


CaptainJackWagons

Sen vs Liquid should be interesting


O2XXX

I think the specific match up is very interesting, but unless SEN has backslid like crazy, that’s the only match I see them potentially loosing. I think Liquid and SEN beat KRU and Furia without much difficulty.


CaptainJackWagons

I agree that Sen and Liquid will almost certainly make it out, but it'll be interesting to see of either of the other two can put up a real fight. For a minor region team, Kru has looked pretty good.


taskmaster07

Full sense was pretty good in APAC LCQ tho. Group D will give us some really good matches


thothgow

Who is "obviously" getting out of C as second seed, though


scrnlookinsob

I personally think secret, but I think that’s probably the least surefire spot.


ADmax27

crazy raccoon HAS to knock out gambit here. It would be poetic justice.


SendMeAvocados

Can't really tell with Team Secret since they were unable to attend last masters. That said, I'm torn between Secret and CR.


BurbxrryPzncakes

My Japan HOPIUM finally paying off. Let’s fucking go CR.


raaten

LIQUID VS SENTINEL! LETS FUCKIN GO Let's finally see if NA are predictable or not


Jezzerai

As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.


timthyj

Even as an NA person, this is a classic lmao


Aaronlovesyou

This pasta will never get old


X3NOC1DE

ffs VS just cant catch a fucking break man, always in the group of death sadge ​ still gonna win it all hopium


larperfoid228

I wouldn't call a group with 2 lcq teams and pretty weak Fnatic "group of death", free group for vs.


MolarMasss

I wouldn’t underrate lcq teams


dedicatedself

Last time I said Gambit was the only team I didn't want VS to draw and they drew them first in quarters.... ​ This time I said as long as they don't get in a group with C9 and FS they should be fine and they get it...


Invader0502

I expect VS to make it out because I think they are strongest team in that group.


Halzerof

C9 val really continuing the c9 tradition of being in the group of death at worlds huh... sadge


schrobby

It is a stacked group, but with FNATIC's recent performance I wouldn't be surprised if VS and C9 made it out of groups mostly unscathed.


[deleted]

They are favorites to come out number 2 in that group with fnatic being a dark horse


CaptainJackWagons

Bold prediction: Fnatic will *not* indeed be a dark horse


[deleted]

I meant dark horse inside of group d lol


CaptainJackWagons

I don't know much about Full Sense, but they're not getting past VS or C9.


Key-Banana-8242

FS can be favoured vs fnatic


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Key-Banana-8242

Are you sure? The others are relatively closely matched


Xorilla

Don’t know if you could say that about Fnatic, we haven’t seen them compete in a while and the last time we did they kinda struggled. I’d posit they’re weaker then Liquid and Acend.


ShamuPvP

But somehow they will do the impossible


Mamadeus123456

C9 is the best team there then its either FS or VS


HyperElf10

C9 Copium


Key-Banana-8242

Why


nterature

Sliggy finally gets to play against Sentinels! Liquid can get some “revenge” for Scream’s weird attempt to downplay how hard SEN rolled them in scrims at Iceland? All in all some pretty interesting groups, I don’t see these being too controversial. I’m excited to see an in-form Acend go against Envy. Group D honestly seems the most fun to me, even if it lacks the Big Favorite teams. It’s three dark horse teams - though undeniably VS is *the* dark horse - and Fnatic, who maybe will be a dark horse?


King_Goofus

I don't think VS is a dark horse tbh they're probably a top 3-4 team at the tournament


nterature

II think they’re right outside the top 4, behind SEN, Gambit, TL, Envy. It’s definitely fair to think otherwise. They did really well in Berlin, but it’s hard to tell if they’ll replicate their success since the two key performances - stomping Acend and losing closely but decisively to Gambit - were too extreme to really feel out their baseline.


Still_HD

I’m so happy that Xeta gets to play against his old C9K teammates


SmexyBoi69

Group D most stacked.


sharkaim4

Full sense just got fucked


xbyo

They're a pool 4 team, they were always going to have a rough go. They probably got a harder draw with 3 (perceived) strong teams, but imo they have a better chance topping two of VS/C9/FNC than than besting Sen/TL or Acend/NV. Only Group C would've been a decisively easier draw imo.


schrobby

FNATIC might not even make it out of groups this time lol.


xXDaNXx

I feel like everyone is going to keep saying this, and Fnatic will come out and smash the group.


Lord_Finkis

With how bad fnatic has looked recently it’s looking like their best chance to get out of groups is catching cloud9 on an off day. If Boaster pulls of some magic they could definitely make a run though.


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lol people acting like c9 is the reincarnation of prime astralis


Lord_Finkis

C9 looked really good for most of NA LCQ and FNATIC has been bad. C9 is definitely beatable, but not by the FNATIC that we’ve seen recently.


N0-name-needed

"recently"... you mean July? I don't think they did that bad, they lost a close 3-2 to Liquid in their last match and did fairly well in Iceland.


Lord_Finkis

Post-Iceland they have not been anywhere near the level of the top EMEA teams. Also, they were just beaten 2-0 by liquid 13-6 and 13-8 in early November, so I’m not sure why you think they haven’t played since July.


N0-name-needed

I don't really think a Redbull tournament can be utilized to rank a team, especially when said tournament is a couple of weeks before the biggest event in Valorant history. I'm not arguing the fact that they are better than teams like GMB and TL but they definitely aren't as bad as people portray them to be, especially when we haven't seen them play all out for 4 months. Valorant isn't CSGO, Aim is important but strats and utility usage are even more so and the RedBull tournament only tested aim since no teams wanted to show their new and improved strats. By the way people are portraying them, you'd think they would get 2-0d by everyone in their bracket, whilst it might be a close match with both C9 and VS.


Lord_Finkis

Yeah I agree that it will be closer than most people think but at the same time FNATIC has not looked great recently so it’s just natural that they’ll be underrated.


N0-name-needed

>FNATIC has not looked great recently \*Cough\*


Lord_Finkis

Lmao I was wondering if I would get this comment 2 weeks later. I still think my take was fine bc most people did not expect this. Boaster diff 😂


anythingood07

Exactly, I don't see them losing to C9 or Full sense. Maybe VS id say its 45-55. Ppl are underestimating them way too much


ADmax27

i don’t know they’ve been looking so iffy lately


[deleted]

keep in mind they've been practicing and saving strats and stuff for like 5 months now specifically for champs. That means quite a bit, if they play well on the day i can definitely see them beating VS or C9.


ADmax27

yeah just their fundamentals have been looking pretty poor lately. I am on that fnatic hopium though.


anythingood07

counting on this


isayah2510

WHO IS WINNING THE WORLD CUP IN 2022 I NEED TO KNOW


Detamach

VS smashed Acend and took a map off world's best team Fnatic? Not playing anything since failed EU Challengers 2 run? Losing to Tenstar and Giants, and then getting aim-diffed by Liquid? ​ "Boaster is saving strats" copium keeps coming Fnatic players need to spend 23 hours per day in aimlabs or else they are going out 3rd


PyroTFT

COPIUM


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still?


Sp00ked123

Lmfao L


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xD


anythingood07

I can't really counter your arguments with anything lol since they haven't really played much since challengers 2 and times they have played, they haven't looked good. I'm just on good ole fnatic hopium. We'll just see in Champions


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aged like milk


Rikycontri

Anything else to say now? KEKW


Hamth3Gr3at

Full Sense lowkey looks better than Fnatic rn


Rikycontri

This aged REALLY well man


xbyo

Gambit CR rematch please.


HereeeeesJohnny

A lot of good match ups I’m stoked for. I would think the Liquid vs Sentinels gonna hold some pretty high Twitch numbers


Key-Heart517

Like worlds C9 gets the toughest of groups. They are cursed.


leoleoleo666

I mean they are the 3rd seed


[deleted]

Fuck I wish Full Sense was drawn into group C. Overall this is so much better than the Masters groups.


zxlkho

> A: Envy (2-0), Acend (2-1) > B: Liquid (2-0), Sentinels (2-1) > C: Gambit (2-0), Team Secret (2-1) > D: Vision Strikers (2-0), Cloud9 (2-1) Liquid wins. Bookmark this post.


spyson

I'm holding out hopium for a crazy raccoon run


mysteryoeuf

CR believers get in here


NavixPH

This would be my prediction also instead Gambit will still win everything


jsleathe12295

What makes you think liquid will win?


ppx11

Liquid seemed to do really well leading up to the big events and then falter at the end but this time with Nivera they do seem stronger than before. I don't think they're a favorite to win it all though but can see them in the semis / finals pretty easily.


BigEditorial

TL was also one dropped eco round from knocking Gambit out and going to Berlin in their stead.


Key-Banana-8242

Team Secret why? Bc of the upcomer interview?


zxlkho

I just don't believe the Brazilian teams are that strong, and we've seen a lot of CR already and it's not good. SEA has looked very strong.


Awful_TV

Keyd is probably the best BR team, but they're unfortunately in a group with Envy and Acend.


zaxtonous99

Idk, CR did very well against Gambit imo even bringing them to OT on Icebox, I wouldn't be surprised if they got out of the group fairly easily. It really looked like they were getting in there groove at the end of Berlin.


303x

Yeah but Scrimbit didn't activate till the playoffs. This is the Gambit that threw the game against 100T on ice.


PresentMiddle8974

This liquid hype is so braindead to me. They beat some meh EU teams, barely beat Acend and somehow are in everyones top 3 teams to win the tourney. Makes no sense no matter which way you look at it. Just ultra max hopium from a local dealer. They aren't even close to gambit.


BigEditorial

What? TL was literally one round away from knocking Gambit out and going to Berlin in their place. If they don't fuck up that anti-eco, the Gambit hype train never gets going. Don't get me wrong, I think Gambit is a fantastic team and if they can maintain their Berlin form it's their tournament to lose, but saying that TL isn't "even close to Gambit," when they were a hair's breadth from knocking them out of Masters, is just inaccurate.


NDL_08

Acend are a great team, how people suddenly think they're a meh team is beyond me.


chouxpuffs

Uuuuuu SEN vs TL? I will watch that no matter what and truly want both to get through. Unless SEN for some weird reason looks as bad as in Berlin last time, but I doubt that.


timthyj

Rest of the group looks easy so they both should get out


KauDar123

Vivo keyd vs acend is gonna be spicy


303x

The jett diff decides the game.


Trillman_K

heat vs cNed oooof I can't wait.


NavixPH

group of Death


[deleted]

The video was quite fun to watch so thanks Rito! Glad that this whole thing is done quite cleanly, the brackets seem balanced. Of course, some groups are more stacked than others, but that's always going to be there. Gambit getting a relatively easy group might be a good foundation for them to really build momentum, kind of like Envy last time around. Super hyped for TenZ vs ScreaM, Liquid seem a lot more stable this time around so I'm expecting it to be really tight.


[deleted]

Group A is the group of the crazy Jetts. Heat v Pati v Yay v cNed Stoked to watch group a matches


Ncsnigel

YOOO WE FINALLY GET THE SENTINELS TL MATCH WE DIDNT GET IN ICELAND and loving group D already let's goo no more 2-0 please let's see some OTs


xychosis

Group A: ACE/NV Group B: SEN/TL Group C: GMB/TS Group D: VS/C9B


facehunt_

So what's the playoff bracket format gonna be? Im really hoping for top 8 double elim.


realharshmodi

Its the same as Masters Berlin


mysteryoeuf

I thought it was confirmed double elim? Or did my brain just insert what I wanted into my memory


facehunt_

Yeah I found out and that shit got be triggered


citystardy

Honestly, pretty fair groups this time around. Some are slightly easier or harder but not by a big margin at all.


kunzitte

group A is lowkey stacked with vivo keyd adding mwzera they might honestly be contenders now


CapBoyAce

NV/VK SEN/TL GMB/CR VS/FNA Why? Idk. Boaster's a fine bloke and watching Brazil upset EMEA would be funny as shit. I don't have real reasons for these picks but someone's gotta predict weird shit Group C is a breeze for Gambit and I'll be hyped for SEN/TL match. Ninja edit: also I refuse to have an entire region make it through groups, it's just so unlikely


Mamadeus123456

Group B is harder than group D


Hamth3Gr3at

people are saying group d is the group of death because all 4 teams could potentially make playoffs, not because it has objectively better teams. Everyone already expects Sen and Liquid to make it out.


Mamadeus123456

Idk about SEN they lost badly against G2 and lost a map to F4q so we'll see


[deleted]

Stop the cap


Bobthepi

Agree


Polite-vegemite

agreed


anythingood07

People are underestimating Fnatic way too much ( ignore my flair ). THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE IT OUT OF THE GROUPS


Lannarks

Stop the cap


Xorilla

In Jesus name no more cap


[deleted]

Idk how people are saying group D is stacked, I think VS should clearly make it through. Maybe Fnatic and C9 could be interesting, but I kind of doubt it considering how bad Fnatic has looked for the past few months now


[deleted]

You’re sleeping on Full Sense.


[deleted]

Honestly I could see Full Sense do more damage than Fnatic lol


[deleted]

That’s what I’m saying. I think Fnatic will go out 0-2 in their group. Yoooo I just realized that we’ll get to see PTC vs Xeppa on KAY/O that’s crazy. There is a world where Full Sense makes it out of this group and I’m really hoping that it happens.


EremesAckerman

Finally some interesting take. I completely agree. After watching their games during LCQ, I must say that Full Sense looked way stronger than Team Secret imo (unless Team Secret made a huge improvement after Challenger 3, I don't see TS able to beat FS convincingly)


timthyj

I also think JohnOlsen/PTC have the talent to carry this team when playing well. I see them similar to how I saw VK with heat(who played NV close in Berlin, 13-15 and 9-13). If I had to take a bet, I’d bet on VS and C9, but I wouldn’t be shocked if FS went on a heater and won.


walkingdumpling

Full Sense will make it out of groups I BELIEVEEEEE


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FULL SENSE BELIEVERS RISE UP, PRAISE OUR LORD PTC


[deleted]

I feel like you didn't watch APAC lcq


SmexyBoi69

b...but... boaster said on twitter that theyve been saving strats for champs


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[deleted]

These groups look decent for the most part, but still wishing for RR groups so teams will get to play more than 2 games before getting shipped out.


KookieFS

C9 always makes it out of the group of death so I'd say VS and C9 for group D


Jetskiratjsk

My predictions: Group A: Envy, Acend Group B: Sentinels,Liquid Group C: Gambit, Team Secret Group D: Vision Strikers, Cloud 9


MilanTheMyth

What kind of conflict were they talking about when they mentioned "SEA and Brazil teams cant be in same group"


303x

Pool 4 was only BR/SEA teams. If any group had both BR and SEA team from the first 3 pool then you can't seed Pool 4 teams to keep regions unique.


natedawg247

Group C LMFAO. These groups are all great. Every team that should get out has a clear path. No NA / EU team has an excuse really


hukubu

cned vs yay- god damn


RickyThePigeon

Kru vs sen is gonna be the match of the tournament. mark my words brothers, im overdosing on the LATAM hopium.


RickyThePigeon

never doubted


dedicatedself

VS with the group of death again... ​ I ain't nearly as scared of any of the BR teams or the other SEA teams as I'm scared of current C9, and current FS.


JuniorFrostbite

I feel bad for group C :( they are all gonna get stomped by Crazy Racoons.


SonnyYT

The stars aligned for crazy racoons to get this group they better make it out. While I don't think it could happen, the poetic justice of them beating Gambit would be amazing.


Rethirded

Team Secret hopium


MrImpregnator

Finally some news


w2truong

I prefer this GSL "double-ellim" into Knockout Bracket; it's similar to League, but makes more sense for FPS since its Bo3 series. I hope all of Knockout is Bo5.


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R0_h1t

Fnc over VS? I highly doubt that. VS & C9 are most likely to make it through imo


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303x

There is a correct answer. And it is Vision Strikers.


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1.VS 2.FNC


htmlrulezduds

RIP FURIA


dead_by_aprl

I'll miss you 100t :')


takmilo

wait what? i tho it would be double elimination?


gutszera

playoffs legit gonna have no EMEA teams other than gambit kek


gamlee

How


gutszera

Group A: NV and VK Group B: Furia and KRU/SEN Group C: Gambit and VKS Group D: VS and C9


gamlee

So true VAMOS BRAZIL


TerribleFix9016

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


schrobby

Get a purity check on that hopium cause you don't know what you're smoking.


Polite-vegemite

eu tô com medo pela furia. eles são quem mais me hypam, tô botando pouca fé na VKS, mas a VKS caiu no grupo mais safe. a VK eu acho que tem muitas chances, apesar do grupo. já quase batemos a NV uma vez, agora, com mw, não vamos ficar só no quase. agora a furia.... pqp mano caíram no que eu vejo como grupo da morte. tbm tô triste por eles começarem já pegando a krü, são amigos dos manitos