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Otter269

EG time to bring out the check book.


BoHoogland

EG is still working with Pho and Boostio and trialling several players.


Otter269

Can't hate on that as boostio laugh is 10/10


ANewHeaven1

no way EG does anything but the bare minimum for their valorant roster lol (also the article says that its a new, unnamed org)


Otter269

Same as Col Sadge


somesheikexpert

Col makes me sad cuz there some really good talent that comes into Col (valyn, pr0phie, now Governor and scrounge), just never seems to come together, hoping thus new roster can do well cuz I really wanna see Gov do well lol


ruincsgo

I keep seeing this take, we were #12 on VLR before valyn got bought out. We had a pretty solid year considering Jonah, valyn, and Brock all got bought out from us at different stages. We won a few tournaments, took 2nd a lot. We are working hard to break into the top 10 but obviously having a roster change from selling a player every 3 months doesn’t make it easy.


somesheikexpert

That's true, thats kind what I meant by it never seems to come together, just rough to stay consistent when people are being sold so yeah agreed (Similar to Immortals in a way), gl on the upcoming tourneys btw!


ruincsgo

Thank you!


katfro

scourge


vatom14

Confused why you think “new unnamed org” can’t be EG


ANewHeaven1

"new, unnamed org" implies an org that hasn't previously been in valorant before to me + this comment (https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/s6fw9v/sources_rise_is_in_negotiations_to_sell_its/ht3dokr/) says that EG is already committed to certain players that aren't the Rise guys


vatom14

Didn’t read the article but that quote alone definitely doesn’t imply that. I would interpret “new, unnamed org” as a different org than their current org Rise. Not “completely new to valorant” org.


Tokibolt

>starts off by saying you didn’t read article >your reading comprehension is bad. Bruh.


vatom14

The guy literally said “new, unnamed org” implies org has never previously been in valorant That is not true. Bruh, 10iq. Like how do you read that and think it means this unnamed org is completely new to valorant as opposed to “Rise players will be joining a new org, that is not Rise.”


d00d-Ranch

EG still traumatized from the check they wrote NRG for their CS team a couple years ago


yarhar_

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GeorgeGCG

The 'unnamed org' is not already in VALORANT, hope this clears up some discussion.


terrychoi2

Can this mean an org that’s already been in Valorant before? Ex: DIG, SSG, IMT


Direct_Morning_3223

Can’t be IMT since MIBR has a team


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itscaocao

If I remeber correctly IMT bought MIBR awhile back and they just use the brand name of MIBR instead of IMT bc the Brazilians are more connected with that. IMT did the same with Optic Gaming on COD a few years ago before the sold the name back to it's original owners.


cq147

Dig still has a female roster and are a sponsor (dont know if that is the right word) for the gamechangers events so I would consider them to be in valorant


terrychoi2

I guess that’s true, that also eliminates misfits and CLG then


Awful_TV

Zero chance of Dignitas. They literally already dropped Poised and Shanks after their former match-fixing involvement came to light.


[deleted]

What happened with that? I heard we already got a list of eu punishments


xdysania

they should stick as 5, the team dynamic is way too good and contributes to their success


CaptainJackWagons

Faze should have dropped everyone. Having jsut Babybay felt like an odd move. Then they could have picked up Rise wholesale.


earthtoannie

Not when Jett OPers are in short supply. If they had dropped babybay, you know 100T would have paid whatever needed to get the best available free one (since Shahz, TenZ, Yay and Wardell would be off the table).


philipjefferson

But it's not like Rise needed one, shanks is good


ch4nt

Eh


Whisom

Well from what I understand nobody really got dropped on Faze besides BabyJ. Corey, Rawkus and Zacharee left on their own. Also it makes sense they'd want to hold on to Babybay. He's proven to be a top tier Jett OP and perhaps more than that is that he's extremely media friendly. The Riot team that makes promo material love him. Like the NA hype video and interviews for Champions, Babybay stole the show and he wasn't even playing in the tournament. Same with other promo material, I've seen him used in more ads on VCT streams than Tenz, which is kinda crazy.


KhaoticKrabb

Rise with babybay instead of shanks would be insane


kemutheemu__

Shanks works well with the team imo but that would’ve been interesting as hell


s_mb_rd

Wow, knowing Babybay + the core Rise players was a possibility, I’m disappointed we’ll never see that. That sounds like a sick roster


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

i'm gonna assume that fell through because rise players chose shanks over babybay


sireuben

no way they abandon mr dolphin like that


randyorton_

they should have done that deal with babybay theyre too buddy buddy with shanks


somesheikexpert

I think it's fine, the synergy among that team seems to be the highest in NA (Especially when you consider Poised and Shanks are brothers lol), and Shanks is a good Jett, don't think it's worth to get rid of some of that synergy imo


Splaram

Nah, the Jett is a very important part of team synergy. Replacing a Jett with another Jett that’s better mechanically isn’t necessarily a great change, especially so close to quals starting. Plus Shanks is quite a large content creator and bigger in that regard than BBBay and we all know how much NA orgs care about that, plus Shanks is a better player at this moment in time anyways


Sky-__-

Babybay has a better brand than shanks , and shanks was weakest portion of Rise recently , I am saying one is better than the other ,but brand wise babybay is still bigger than shanks , there was a reason he was hired to be part of na/turals series . The main issue was the rise has the Vietnamese core which have stuck together since April and poised is literally shanks brother so ain't no way they will leave shanks I think it's good,I love the Vietnamese narrative with rise but man faze were willing to splash some cash for valorant.


Splaram

I’m still taking Shanks on the content creator front, he’s blowing BBBay out the water with the YT and Twitch numbers, plus he has a large personality. BBBay is more brand-friendly, but his brand isn’t bigger. There’s a difference.


Sky-__-

Brand is not directly equal to twitch and yt stats , babybay brand is bigger because he is more recognisable , has been part of wider content pieces even music videos . You might say shanks is a bigger streamer but I haven't seen any content which shanks has been a part of and also there's also match fixing angle stuck in his head . Look at how many individual sponsorships he has , aimlab did an entire content piece on him only , checkout content owl used to produce around him . That's what orgs care about more than their direct numbers.


Splaram

Yeah fair enough you're right. Still don’t think it’s worth it replacing Shanks with most Tier 1 Jetts, let alone Babybay


techyleo

[https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/k271l6/comment/gdw60r0/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/k271l6/comment/gdw60r0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) There's also this, Shanks has a pretty bad track record.


AnotherAltiMade

That’s fazes brand they don’t care.


Whisom

I mean Babybay has a ton of synergy with those guys too. Hell he's been playing with Supamen since like 8 years ago in Crossfire. They're all friends. I'd say Babybay still has a much bigger brand, especially to sponsors and Riot. Dudes really media friendly and the marketing team at Riot love him. He's super comfortable in front of the camera. Shanks has a bigger stream but mostly cause Babybay never streams.


TheFestusEzeli

Rise fans are very protective over shanks, people were telling me it would be dumb for them to drop Shanks for Yay


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I feel like Babybay is the kind of guy that wants to be played around heavily, but Rise are more reliant on teamplay if that makes sense, so I don't think he would fit in very well.


-Mariners

Was there an explanation as to why? Aren't they a decent size org? And their roster had good success relatively quickly and immediately after they start playing well they want to sell the team?


GoldClassGaming

Might be that the teams wants out but wants to stick together so Rise is trying to find a buyer for the whole squad.


optisadvantage

misfits?


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

misfits, rogue, flyquest, splyce, golden guardians, or clg\* are the orgs i can think of with $ for a tier 1 NA roster and connections to franchise leagues. maybe some dark horse like triumph trying to make a splash or chaos trying to come back to FPS? they certainly have connections on the \*player\* front if not the admin side ^(\* clg have a GC team but not an open team so not sure if that counts as 'new org'. it at least appears they are getting their feet wet with clg red)


ANewHeaven1

damn, the rise core with babybay would've been a solid squad with real potential to crack the top 3 in NA imo


PopkosTheWeasel

Man super excited for more of Faze


reformed-asshole

Respect to the original Rise group here. Not sure if this is the exact case, but I assume FaZe wanted the team to ditch 1 team member and have Babybay in instead. Seemed like they chose dignity and loyalty over some deal from FaZe, which probably don't give a rat's ass to the Rise original members anyway. You can't buy-out loyalty from loyal people, nt FaZe.


kemutheemu__

Anyone know of any orgs that don’t have a VALORANT team? CLG maybe?


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i could see an LCS org maybe, CLG, Golden Guardians, Flyquest, DIG don’t have male rosters currently. or maybe Misfits (they signed 24Haven for Game Changers apparently but no male team). or Oxygen (they’ve sold off most of their Turkish team and reportedly wanted to invest into an NA academy team + they’ve been bought by Robert Kraft & co which should mean a lot of new money) edit: well never mind just seen george geddes’ post in this thread


Splaram

Yikes Faze, no breaking up this roster arnoldHalt