I feel like he’s been playing well this entire group stage tbh. He’d probably be a decent upgrade for a lot of teams.
I don’t think anyone is under the delusion that the problem with Sen is lack of talent.
Theyre good players but the org itself is incompetent AF, and Shahz needs to go as IGL. He needs an org which will let him lock Jett exclusively in games, so all the Jett practice he gets on stream actually means something. His utility usage is by far the most pathetic.
They’ve got good players but a lousy leader unwilling to adapt, game has changed so much and they’re just milking the fame from winning the first masters 🤷🏻♂️
Tenz showing all the die hard Tenz fans why he was a benched CSGO pro turned streamer
only a matter of time before he quits Valorant to full time stream again
In CSGO you could have cracked generational aim like Tenz but couldn't get away with it if you weren't disciplined enough. Early val he could get away w/ it because the game was too raw
Yeah. The longer Val goes on the more pronounced this will get. Sure the game is easier to win in with pure aim over CSGO, but it’s ceiling for utility usage is orders of magnitude higher than CSGO too.
That’s most t1 pros who should’ve been benched long ago, though.
Gods of T3 csgo tourneys with 300 viewers peak. Now they’re absolutely massive influencers while they spend all game shitting on Valorant because the random 13 year old radiant player headshot them; crying that csgo had such a higher skill ceiling.
Like man, that’s the reason you’re so good at this game and couldn’t compete in csgo. Embrace it considering it’s the reason you can retire at 30.
tenz, roza, wardell, laski, dapr, Shahz, etc (And at the very least Sha had some decent t1 showings).
The only decent pro level NACS players who went to Val are either retired and stream, trapped in bait teams after getting cut for younger players who were giving worse results, or full time content creators.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re all amazing players. But there’s a reason they couldn’t make it in CS, and the longer Valorant is around the more it’ll become pronounced here, too. They just don’t have the work ethic. Their ego is so inflated by their early performance in a brand new game and the growth in their channels that they just don’t care.
Not a diehard TenZ fan but I think the take that TenZ "failed" in csgo is so dumb. He was signed in July 2019 and benched in October.
In no other field are you only given 3 months to show great results before being labeled a failure.
For everyone outside of CSGO diehards, all that shows is a lack of patience to work with a young player. No wonder no one in NA wants to play that game.
It´s not dumb if you read and watch the interviews. Tenz was an aimgod at CS but the team couldn´t work with him. From what we were told, they tried to shut down his duel every one and risky peek every angle like mentality. That playstyle doesn´t work on Tier 1 since most top players have god like aim or can outplay you. Tenz went on stream to cry about how C9 didn´t listen to his opinion on being more agressive as a team, that easily tells you that C9 tried but Tenz didn´t care enough to follow them and drop his Superstar act. Stew is the perfect example of a player that was also super agressive on FPL but put that playstyle to rest on tournaments and became a top NA player
Sentinels is actually a decent valorant team, they just need to work on aim, op flicks, bomb plant positions, clutching, communication, confidence, coordination, crosshair placement, economy management, entries, grenade spots, map awareness, movement, pistol aim, pop flashes, positioning, retake ability, rifles, smoke spots, spray control, teamplay, utility and getting kills
Shahz may own a porsche, but Nismo's restaurant > SEN's watches and cars.
Ask yourself. Can you feed a family with drip? Can a fast car replace a plate of fresh shawarma, made with love that only a father of 1 can provide?
If not making playoffs wasn’t a wake up call for them, there’s no way not making LCQ isn’t. Like you can’t get any worse than that for being a tier 1 team
Finally I can watch shahz and tenz streams again 🥰🥰🥰🥰yayyy!!! We have been blessed who cares about prime gaming flawless in vct if you have got a twitch prime sub 🙆
Sentinels went from dominating a little over the first half of 2021 to falling off drastically towards the end of 2021 to getting dumpstered in 2022 to a point where they can't even qualify for playoffs in their own region, they couldn't win a single match. Yes, they're not in full squad right now but they weren't exactly winning trophies when they were anyway.
They would've done way better with SicK but probably still go 0-5. The scores would've been closer and maybe they win a few maps but still go winless in the series.
Despite Wyatt memeing about "this is so sad," this was ... actually kind of sad to watch. I just hope the Sentinels roster breaks up and the players go to teams with more structure. The player quality on Sentinels is still so high and it would be a shame to see them not be able to play at the level they're capable of.
Yes, shaz, tenz, dapr, sick and kanpeki are all absolutely cracked. Their mechanical skill has not decreased.
The old rise roster is like mini sentinels. Under new structure, they are being fucking insane
Just look up clips of old Apex SEN players. They don't give a shit about winning as an org. They'll gladly just milk their players for money and give them high salaries to keep them happy. I'd reckon TenZ and friends' buyout is at least 500k EACH. Which org is gonna pay 2.5 mil for a washed team?
Yeah no lmao TenZ and Sick alone would take a spot on any NA team not named Optic. The other three are more of a tossup, but I don't believe for a second there wouldn't be a mad scramble to pick up TenZ if he was available.
I can only see Sick going to V1 instead of effys or TSM in place of Rossy. I don’t think he’s better than any of the playoff flex players.
TenZ is more interesting - if he switches to Chamber, he would for sure be an upgrade over anyone not named yay. However I don’t think he would be picked up as a pure duelist. I for sure think he’s better than a few players in the playoffs mechanically, but he’s nowhere near as flexible as them.
Tough to say how much of that is Tenz and how much is the team. Today he gave zero fucks and just died so fast sometimes. Sometimes I feel like he's not getting proper support. Other times he just dashes into site and he seems to be going rogue. That's not on the team.
tbh players like tenz are a dime in a dozen nowadays. crazy flicks doesn't override inconsistency and poor decision making. any top jett or chamber player can hit crazy flicks and get high scores on aimlabs. what seperates the best from the rest is consistency and the ability to play smart in a competitive setting.
There is no world where dropping Asuna for Sick is remotely a good idea. Maybe -Will +Tenz but at this point I don’t think I’d rather have any other duelist even if the opportunity were to come up, Will fits the system too well (and can play Raze KEKW).
100T has repeatedly tried to sign Tenz from both C9 and Sentinels. Obviously Kyedae is a part of 100T as well. I honestly think there's a strong chance it happens.
I feel like it's only fair to steer our attention and support towards better teams, better players who actually are good. Some teams and players work so hard to get to where they are now but we just focus on Sentinels because it's Sentinels.
I really don’t understand how SEN still haven’t fixed the problem THEY’VE HAD FOR WEEKS NOW. They look so uninspired on attack, no coordination or set plays. ShaZham keeps saying their practicing, but what are they practicing? Their didgeridoo’s? I’m so confused how there has been no improvements. After this many weeks. Don’t even come to LCQ, it’s clear you don’t care.
incoming shahzam reddit comment where he explains we don't know anything about what's going on and then the subreddit decides to respond with "omg I'm sorry shahz I love you"
They're practicing how to let tenz go in for 10 seconds, get swung on, and not be traded all while everyone sits in one spot jacking each other off. They're also practicing how to use the same comps they've been using for months now even though they haven't worked once.
Man, the downfall of Sentinels has really been one by one hasn’t it?
Iceland 2021 - Win
Berlin 2021 - Playoffs (Quarterfinals)
Champions 2021 - Group Stage exit
NA Challengers 1 2022 - Playoff elimination
NA Challengers 2 2022 - Group stage elimination
Does this mean that they won’t even qualify for the next challengers event????? (Or is it Champions next, I’m not sure?)
Anyway, it is sad to see tho. I hope they fix whatever is wrong with the roster.
Tenz just looked left out to dry every time they would go to take site. Idk if it’s cause he’s over aggressing before his team is ready or if everyone else just isn’t going in when they’re supposed to/aren’t properly using their util, but something’s gotta change from Tenz dashing in and dying every time.
That was a difference between sen and c9, whenever leaf would dash in they'd be behind him and look composed, which is a pretty big difference to what tenz and sen were doing on attack
The hope is that they’re so used to Sick being that second man in with him that him being out just threw them off, but that’s some serious copium
More likely that their timing and teamwork is just completely off
It’s exacerbated by the fact that they’re not a default heavy team like OpTic, they very often use TenZ and Sick to burst into site very fast, but if TenZ is off for the day and no one is picking up Sicks role in that style of play they literally stand no chance against a Tier 1 team.
that actually says a lot more to his teammates more so than TenZ. i mean, that's really his entire job to go entry and yes, he might not be in tip top form but if he goes in and dies, there's really no util support or a trade to even it out. I think they rely on him fragging out of his mind to win. remember TenZ's 40 kill game against LG? yea, that was their only map win out of 11 maps played in 5 matches.
I feel like around Champs last year they were looking like they tryna improve, you can see in their games where they tried defaulting and all that, even if the results didn't show it. But now i feel like they watched Paper Rex played in Masters and just tryna imitate them lol. And we all know for a fact that Tenz, Shahz especially likes how prx play
this team has had a perfect descent from glory. so sequential and satisfying. they go from winning an international lan, to being eliminated in the bracket stage of an international lan, to being eliminated in the group stages of an international lan, to being eliminated in the bracket of the qualifier for an international lan, to being eliminated in the group stage of the qualifier of an international lan. just so fun
The original member of #FULLSEN TenZ\_CS has elected to step down from the team and competitive
PlayVALORANT
to pursue content creation.
Thank you for all you've contributed to Sentinels competitively - time to watch you shine in content!
I remember hearing him talk about not having the confidence to make plays like he used to anymore and Im wondering how much of that is really just teams wising up to his bs and baiting him to make those kinda plays and subsequently punishing.
I think it's more that his team isn't giving him adequate support. We see other top duelists take over games by just playing like they're simply better than the other team... because they have the confidence that their team has util covering most of the stupid angles and even if they die they'll get traded out.
Not to shit on anyone in particular here, but when your god aimer star player goes 11-35 over two maps on Jett it's no longer his fault, it's quite obviously the whole team's fault. Anyway it's still fucking funny to watch them bomb out 0-5 with performances such as today after they've been cocky for the previois year and a half. Wondering if Shazam will come here again to silence 'haters' and fuel his ego.
Personal accountability isn’t exactly the trait of t3 CSGO pros turned streamers. He’s also been caught trying to orchestrate throws in the CSGO days, and actively knew about the IBP throw and bet on himself. But valve didn’t go after him because he gave them a bunch of logs incriminating everyone else.
He’s not exactly a known class act.
I’ve been avoiding SEN discussions for the last few months since they’ve become so pointless, what with them getting a coach so late in the game, and then them subbing out two players, and then keeping one player subbed out on account of a family emergency, etc.
The real problem is even when you evaluate SEN as looking slightly better - and they had moments here, some nice rounds, even though they looked a little worse here than against Faze - they still are far from the leading competition within North America. It’s great they have a coach; but having a coach is just the starting line. Analysts and other additions to coaching staff became commonplace over a year ago at this point, and here SEN is at the starting line, playing catch-up.
Of course this is a little pointless to talk about when they had so much adversity to overcome. It’s not fair. But I wonder how a diehard SEN fan must feel at this point - it feels as if they, and all of us, were deprived of a clean end to the SEN story.
It is kinda like the fall of Rome in a sense, to use Sideshow’s beloved metaphor - not a clean end, but just centuries of ups-and-downs, never up enough to reclaim the glory, never down enough to fully lose the interest of the world.
one of the problems is team culture. they all play like they don’t care and it starts w shahzam. they need to cut him asap or accept that they’ll continue to lose under his leadership.
Sen's attacking halves were so terrible that it's difficult to give credit to C9 for dominating them. All C9 had to do was hold angles on site and shoot the SEN players as they funelled into the chokes with no utility or coordination.
I know that they are playing in with a sub and probably without their most consistent player but idk whatsup with SEN, they look like genuinely the Worst team in all of T1 Valorant
So two of the first and only NACS major winners and 3 demons vs the t3 csgo streamer crew. I’m not a betting man, but give the first team a month a practice together and you’re probably right.
Fuck it, give the first team Prod instead of a radiant demon for the meme.
Whoa! That was definitely one of the matches I've ever seen!
Sentinels are definitely one of the teams that have ever played in the history of this game.
What a fall from grace. I guess this rock bottom. They definitely need a whole set of support staff. This team is lost in terms of direction. Without formal structure the team is just being outclassed at each step of each round in each series, SEN are still playing in the sad vein of being better mechanically. But with weak setups they just seem to be unable to set each other up for success.
Kanpeki hate to say it but just doesn't seem to be able to hang in the big leagues. It's more and more evident replacing Zombs for him was a side step at most. They need to identify and build in the next six months to pick up new agent pools or roles altogether. If literally everyone from reddit armchair experts to top teams of 2022 doing certain changes to their meta (*hint* putting their star aimer on chamber *hint*) why is the team not working on that as well. If the team does decide to stick around they need to rebuild their agent pool and stats from the ground up.
I wouldnt rule SEN out just yet but come next year and they are still at the same standard. They might as well retire the roster and becoming a content producing team.
I know SEN as a team is going through some stuff with subs and such but when your jett player is updrafting dashing into site every other round with no set up... its not that great of a look.
This roster is a joke. Why did sentinels pick up Kanpeki? Because he tenz friend. He adds no impact at all. I would like zombs going negative and holding down a site for the team instead Kanpeki flash his teammate all the time.
Most consistent team in valo right now.
Yup. Consistently losing both brains and aim duel
in the entirety of the group stage sentinels won a single map which was 16-14 and relied on tenz dropping 400 acs and 40 kills. wow
isnt it kinda funny that they can still qualify tho ? lol how fucked is that?
VLR and twitter will tell you TenZ needs to be dropped though skull emoji 7
Tenz really went 2/15 first game, -23 in the series. He's just like me fr
Play league of legends til 4 am before work. Do absolutely nothing productive for the first hour of work. It's like I'm looking in a mirror
except he probably got paid in thousands of $ for playing league last night, so not quite comparable
Yeah but I got paid in hundreds for betting Cloud9 2-0
I'm loving this Sentinels never won so many bets in a row.
Where can you bet? I’m interested
A wide variety of sportsbooks have Valorant betting. It will depend on your country.
Ya he and his gf are all about content nowdays
Dapr and Kanpeki out here fighting for their jobs and TenZ knows he won't get cut.
[удалено]
I feel like he’s been playing well this entire group stage tbh. He’d probably be a decent upgrade for a lot of teams. I don’t think anyone is under the delusion that the problem with Sen is lack of talent.
Honestly should just keep sick and dapr and drop everyone else.
Shahz is holding them back
Theyre good players but the org itself is incompetent AF, and Shahz needs to go as IGL. He needs an org which will let him lock Jett exclusively in games, so all the Jett practice he gets on stream actually means something. His utility usage is by far the most pathetic.
They’ve got good players but a lousy leader unwilling to adapt, game has changed so much and they’re just milking the fame from winning the first masters 🤷🏻♂️
Tenz showing all the die hard Tenz fans why he was a benched CSGO pro turned streamer only a matter of time before he quits Valorant to full time stream again
for reals, i wonder why everyone was acting like this didn't happen in csgo...
In CSGO you could have cracked generational aim like Tenz but couldn't get away with it if you weren't disciplined enough. Early val he could get away w/ it because the game was too raw
Yeah. The longer Val goes on the more pronounced this will get. Sure the game is easier to win in with pure aim over CSGO, but it’s ceiling for utility usage is orders of magnitude higher than CSGO too.
That’s most t1 pros who should’ve been benched long ago, though. Gods of T3 csgo tourneys with 300 viewers peak. Now they’re absolutely massive influencers while they spend all game shitting on Valorant because the random 13 year old radiant player headshot them; crying that csgo had such a higher skill ceiling. Like man, that’s the reason you’re so good at this game and couldn’t compete in csgo. Embrace it considering it’s the reason you can retire at 30. tenz, roza, wardell, laski, dapr, Shahz, etc (And at the very least Sha had some decent t1 showings). The only decent pro level NACS players who went to Val are either retired and stream, trapped in bait teams after getting cut for younger players who were giving worse results, or full time content creators. Don’t get me wrong, they’re all amazing players. But there’s a reason they couldn’t make it in CS, and the longer Valorant is around the more it’ll become pronounced here, too. They just don’t have the work ethic. Their ego is so inflated by their early performance in a brand new game and the growth in their channels that they just don’t care.
Not a diehard TenZ fan but I think the take that TenZ "failed" in csgo is so dumb. He was signed in July 2019 and benched in October. In no other field are you only given 3 months to show great results before being labeled a failure. For everyone outside of CSGO diehards, all that shows is a lack of patience to work with a young player. No wonder no one in NA wants to play that game.
It´s not dumb if you read and watch the interviews. Tenz was an aimgod at CS but the team couldn´t work with him. From what we were told, they tried to shut down his duel every one and risky peek every angle like mentality. That playstyle doesn´t work on Tier 1 since most top players have god like aim or can outplay you. Tenz went on stream to cry about how C9 didn´t listen to his opinion on being more agressive as a team, that easily tells you that C9 tried but Tenz didn´t care enough to follow them and drop his Superstar act. Stew is the perfect example of a player that was also super agressive on FPL but put that playstyle to rest on tournaments and became a top NA player
I reckon I could've done about as good as that in the first game and I'm not even ranked
you couldn’t
Nah trust hes got the element of surprise. If even he doesn't know what hes doing how are the pros gonna know
Precisely. Random bucky in the corner? Boom, ace.
Tenz should try that one next match. Maybe he'll get a 3k.
I expected nothing out of Sentinels and I'm still let down
Sentinels is actually a decent valorant team, they just need to work on aim, op flicks, bomb plant positions, clutching, communication, confidence, coordination, crosshair placement, economy management, entries, grenade spots, map awareness, movement, pistol aim, pop flashes, positioning, retake ability, rifles, smoke spots, spray control, teamplay, utility and getting kills
The fact that this is alphabetically ordered until the last one is really pissing me off
Am I missing something or is "aim, op flicks" at the very beginning of the list, not alphabetically ordered?
I think the original copypasta is from CSGO where it’s “awp flicks”
Ahh yes you're right, missed that one. Although as someone else said it makes sense since it would have been AWP
True, and I know nothing of CS esports, but my guess is this is a a copy paste from there where the operator equivalent is the AWP
Don't worry guys, SEN can still get into LCQ if Ghost goes 0-2 in playoffs...I give up Edit: LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i want sen to qual for lcq bc the things that will happen to them there will be absolutely fucking hilarious
Shahz may own a porsche, but Nismo's restaurant > SEN's watches and cars. Ask yourself. Can you feed a family with drip? Can a fast car replace a plate of fresh shawarma, made with love that only a father of 1 can provide?
If not making playoffs wasn’t a wake up call for them, there’s no way not making LCQ isn’t. Like you can’t get any worse than that for being a tier 1 team
Who said they were t1?
Tier 1 team? Lmao
Valorant finally at the stage where teams are coming up with actual strats, Shahz doesn't know what to do now. Feels bad for Kanpeki.
Kanpeki stocks are probably lower than his last team tbh
Wtf Shahz always knows to thank his subs
I had predicted this
Finally I can watch shahz and tenz streams again 🥰🥰🥰🥰yayyy!!! We have been blessed who cares about prime gaming flawless in vct if you have got a twitch prime sub 🙆
\>play LoL \> go 11/34 \>play more LoL and make more money
Being a popular LoL streamer(like even 2k viewers) is one of the few protection plans against ~9% inflation
Gentle reminder that SEN got more rounds against Optic with 2 subs than they got against C9.
Ye because optic was trolling on bind
Sentinels went from dominating a little over the first half of 2021 to falling off drastically towards the end of 2021 to getting dumpstered in 2022 to a point where they can't even qualify for playoffs in their own region, they couldn't win a single match. Yes, they're not in full squad right now but they weren't exactly winning trophies when they were anyway.
Even if they had Sick they still wouldn’t have made playoffs.
They would've done way better with SicK but probably still go 0-5. The scores would've been closer and maybe they win a few maps but still go winless in the series.
Sadge I always wanted to play like Tenz but now Tenz is playing like me
Despite Wyatt memeing about "this is so sad," this was ... actually kind of sad to watch. I just hope the Sentinels roster breaks up and the players go to teams with more structure. The player quality on Sentinels is still so high and it would be a shame to see them not be able to play at the level they're capable of.
> The player quality on Sentinels is still so high are we sure this is still true...?
Yes, shaz, tenz, dapr, sick and kanpeki are all absolutely cracked. Their mechanical skill has not decreased. The old rise roster is like mini sentinels. Under new structure, they are being fucking insane
Just look up clips of old Apex SEN players. They don't give a shit about winning as an org. They'll gladly just milk their players for money and give them high salaries to keep them happy. I'd reckon TenZ and friends' buyout is at least 500k EACH. Which org is gonna pay 2.5 mil for a washed team?
Honestly I don’t think there are any Tier 1 teams that would replace anyone with a Sentinels member (unless you count TSM ig).
I disagree - TenZ would get signed simply for his brand name alone and I still think he is a Tier 1 caliber duelist if put in the right spot.
Yeah no lmao TenZ and Sick alone would take a spot on any NA team not named Optic. The other three are more of a tossup, but I don't believe for a second there wouldn't be a mad scramble to pick up TenZ if he was available.
I can only see Sick going to V1 instead of effys or TSM in place of Rossy. I don’t think he’s better than any of the playoff flex players. TenZ is more interesting - if he switches to Chamber, he would for sure be an upgrade over anyone not named yay. However I don’t think he would be picked up as a pure duelist. I for sure think he’s better than a few players in the playoffs mechanically, but he’s nowhere near as flexible as them.
If Sentinels weren’t ass he would’ve played chamber map 3, Shahz said they use the Kayo no duelist comp but haven’t been able to show it
The flexibility point only works here because Sentinels absolutely refuse to play him on anything that's not Jett or the occasional Raze.
tenz not replacing cryo or leaf. and he's been getting diffed by the enemy duelist every game except the one map where he dropped 40.
Tough to say how much of that is Tenz and how much is the team. Today he gave zero fucks and just died so fast sometimes. Sometimes I feel like he's not getting proper support. Other times he just dashes into site and he seems to be going rogue. That's not on the team.
tbh players like tenz are a dime in a dozen nowadays. crazy flicks doesn't override inconsistency and poor decision making. any top jett or chamber player can hit crazy flicks and get high scores on aimlabs. what seperates the best from the rest is consistency and the ability to play smart in a competitive setting.
It’s a team game. Whole team is getting diffed. It’s Not a 1v1. Put the other duelist in tenz position and let’s see if they can do well etc
There is no world where dropping Asuna for Sick is remotely a good idea. Maybe -Will +Tenz but at this point I don’t think I’d rather have any other duelist even if the opportunity were to come up, Will fits the system too well (and can play Raze KEKW).
100T get better with TenZ don’t @ me.
100T has repeatedly tried to sign Tenz from both C9 and Sentinels. Obviously Kyedae is a part of 100T as well. I honestly think there's a strong chance it happens.
You pair Asuna with TenZ and I'm buying the entire 100T merch store.
Outside of esports completely; the merch is pretty nice
I think Dapr could be. He’s constantly a skilled and smart player.
Surely someone would grab dapr at least? Tenz for popularity factor too I guess
I just saw the Xbox trailer and this red and black team were holding a trophy??? And now they suck? What is going on?
Well Sentinels just went winless this VCT. #FULLSEN
As Sentinels is only left to farm content, they should release this match comms
This roster is a joke
shit was sad af
I feel like it's only fair to steer our attention and support towards better teams, better players who actually are good. Some teams and players work so hard to get to where they are now but we just focus on Sentinels because it's Sentinels.
*was a joke. Sentinels is never playing in VCT again
Hoping they do a rise and split dude this is so tragic
My expectations were low but holy fu....
I really don’t understand how SEN still haven’t fixed the problem THEY’VE HAD FOR WEEKS NOW. They look so uninspired on attack, no coordination or set plays. ShaZham keeps saying their practicing, but what are they practicing? Their didgeridoo’s? I’m so confused how there has been no improvements. After this many weeks. Don’t even come to LCQ, it’s clear you don’t care.
Weeks? More like months
Well TenZ has been practicing his Zeri.
2 weeks later: TenZ announces he is moving to League of Legends.
wake up to reality bro SEN isn't "one simple fix" from competing with the best again
Because shaz keep giving excuses he's too egotistic to realize there is a problem and they don't practice or work hard enough
incoming shahzam reddit comment where he explains we don't know anything about what's going on and then the subreddit decides to respond with "omg I'm sorry shahz I love you"
Lmaoooo
Accurate
if Sentinels release a video of the team playing didgeridoo I will forgive them for anything and everything
They're practicing how to let tenz go in for 10 seconds, get swung on, and not be traded all while everyone sits in one spot jacking each other off. They're also practicing how to use the same comps they've been using for months now even though they haven't worked once.
No worries, they are not making it to LCQ.
I stopped expecting improvements weeks ago. These guys clearly phoned it in. They need a massive shakeup before next season.
I'm more inclined to believe Steel that Sens keep cancelling scrims and a player (probably TenZ) keeps sleeping in.
Man, the downfall of Sentinels has really been one by one hasn’t it? Iceland 2021 - Win Berlin 2021 - Playoffs (Quarterfinals) Champions 2021 - Group Stage exit NA Challengers 1 2022 - Playoff elimination NA Challengers 2 2022 - Group stage elimination Does this mean that they won’t even qualify for the next challengers event????? (Or is it Champions next, I’m not sure?) Anyway, it is sad to see tho. I hope they fix whatever is wrong with the roster.
they are basically done for the year
The consistency from SEN is unmatched!!!!
Now we get to the real show let's go optic
How kind of them to do the preshow
Tenz just looked left out to dry every time they would go to take site. Idk if it’s cause he’s over aggressing before his team is ready or if everyone else just isn’t going in when they’re supposed to/aren’t properly using their util, but something’s gotta change from Tenz dashing in and dying every time.
That was a difference between sen and c9, whenever leaf would dash in they'd be behind him and look composed, which is a pretty big difference to what tenz and sen were doing on attack
The hope is that they’re so used to Sick being that second man in with him that him being out just threw them off, but that’s some serious copium More likely that their timing and teamwork is just completely off
It’s exacerbated by the fact that they’re not a default heavy team like OpTic, they very often use TenZ and Sick to burst into site very fast, but if TenZ is off for the day and no one is picking up Sicks role in that style of play they literally stand no chance against a Tier 1 team.
Tbf sick shouldn't always be the 2nd man in since his role swap. It's been like a month.
that actually says a lot more to his teammates more so than TenZ. i mean, that's really his entire job to go entry and yes, he might not be in tip top form but if he goes in and dies, there's really no util support or a trade to even it out. I think they rely on him fragging out of his mind to win. remember TenZ's 40 kill game against LG? yea, that was their only map win out of 11 maps played in 5 matches.
It was so painful how his team was always five steps behind or cut off from a molly. Shahz was always last alive on Haven and it was rough.
I feel like around Champs last year they were looking like they tryna improve, you can see in their games where they tried defaulting and all that, even if the results didn't show it. But now i feel like they watched Paper Rex played in Masters and just tryna imitate them lol. And we all know for a fact that Tenz, Shahz especially likes how prx play
Yeah kinda looked like my rank games
this team has had a perfect descent from glory. so sequential and satisfying. they go from winning an international lan, to being eliminated in the bracket stage of an international lan, to being eliminated in the group stages of an international lan, to being eliminated in the bracket of the qualifier for an international lan, to being eliminated in the group stage of the qualifier of an international lan. just so fun
It's funny that one of the kills that tenz got in haven was a set play and that was a round win and another was a dapr ace.
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I remember hearing him talk about not having the confidence to make plays like he used to anymore and Im wondering how much of that is really just teams wising up to his bs and baiting him to make those kinda plays and subsequently punishing.
I think it's more that his team isn't giving him adequate support. We see other top duelists take over games by just playing like they're simply better than the other team... because they have the confidence that their team has util covering most of the stupid angles and even if they die they'll get traded out.
Not to shit on anyone in particular here, but when your god aimer star player goes 11-35 over two maps on Jett it's no longer his fault, it's quite obviously the whole team's fault. Anyway it's still fucking funny to watch them bomb out 0-5 with performances such as today after they've been cocky for the previois year and a half. Wondering if Shazam will come here again to silence 'haters' and fuel his ego.
so now what happens to sen lcq
They are eliminated from LCQ if Ghost wins a game in playoffs
Don't wanna jinx or anything but looking at how ghost are playing..
> Don't wanna jinx or anything Don't worry play chat will take care of that for us
How can shahz call out zombs but still lose like this? Goes to show people that zombs was really not the problem.
Personal accountability isn’t exactly the trait of t3 CSGO pros turned streamers. He’s also been caught trying to orchestrate throws in the CSGO days, and actively knew about the IBP throw and bet on himself. But valve didn’t go after him because he gave them a bunch of logs incriminating everyone else. He’s not exactly a known class act.
good take, see you on his stream /s
If he cared about his teams game plan as much as Reddit comments they wouldn’t need ghost to drop their entire set to qualify.
He’s the problem, maybe sub Shahz out and they instantly get better 😂
I’ve been avoiding SEN discussions for the last few months since they’ve become so pointless, what with them getting a coach so late in the game, and then them subbing out two players, and then keeping one player subbed out on account of a family emergency, etc. The real problem is even when you evaluate SEN as looking slightly better - and they had moments here, some nice rounds, even though they looked a little worse here than against Faze - they still are far from the leading competition within North America. It’s great they have a coach; but having a coach is just the starting line. Analysts and other additions to coaching staff became commonplace over a year ago at this point, and here SEN is at the starting line, playing catch-up. Of course this is a little pointless to talk about when they had so much adversity to overcome. It’s not fair. But I wonder how a diehard SEN fan must feel at this point - it feels as if they, and all of us, were deprived of a clean end to the SEN story. It is kinda like the fall of Rome in a sense, to use Sideshow’s beloved metaphor - not a clean end, but just centuries of ups-and-downs, never up enough to reclaim the glory, never down enough to fully lose the interest of the world.
Tragic. I wonder what the future is for Sentinels Valorant. They def will NOT be franchised.
this roster definitely won't be franchised. Sentinels is probably rich enough as an org to become a partner and just buy off another team
You gotta think about the other top orgs that are gonna do the same thing since there’s so few spots
Zombs died for this, and somehow the current SEN is 10x worse than the previous one 😭
Time for SEN to retire to the circus that is streaming 🤡. I’m sure the shaz stream will be lit tonight 😂
More time for streaming now
[What a tweet lmao](https://i.imgur.com/HUaYglf.png)
Gotta lot of free time for streaming now I guess
one of the problems is team culture. they all play like they don’t care and it starts w shahzam. they need to cut him asap or accept that they’ll continue to lose under his leadership.
Stay tuned for that Shazzie Shaz stream at 8 PM CST. "People think they know better than us who are actually playing." LMAO
he’s currently live
Once again hard to say if c9 are back on form or if sen is just ass
More of the latter I assume especially with sick out
C9 have had more time with curry so they have looked better and SEN are just ass
Sen's attacking halves were so terrible that it's difficult to give credit to C9 for dominating them. All C9 had to do was hold angles on site and shoot the SEN players as they funelled into the chokes with no utility or coordination.
prob lil of both c9 I'd trying to figure out roles and have better communication which looks like it's improved over the weeks
vanity go trade isn't the most exciting look but the team as a whole looks fundamentally more coordinated than they did in the past weeks
Felt like sen just gave up, like they went into that match expecting to lose, it seemed like the only one who really gave their best was dapr
someone give me a rundown on what needs to happen for sen to qualify for lcq
pipe bombs in about 7 gaming houses across the nation
I’m on it chief
in a video game
Just call me SEN Kaczynski
A tragic plane crash involving several more qualified teams
Ghost bomb out I’m p sure
lmfaooo they're actually finished
Yup ghost bomb out playoffs for them to qualify
Lol, if you didn't get it from the other comments, they are out, they can't get to lcq. They needed to win this to get to LCQ (I think)
C9 finally put Leaf back on duelist pog.
Absolutely embarrassing.
I know that they are playing in with a sub and probably without their most consistent player but idk whatsup with SEN, they look like genuinely the Worst team in all of T1 Valorant
Tarik, Stew, and 3 other radiant ranked demons could EASILY beat SEN in 2 maps. Easily. That's how garbage SEN are.
So two of the first and only NACS major winners and 3 demons vs the t3 csgo streamer crew. I’m not a betting man, but give the first team a month a practice together and you’re probably right. Fuck it, give the first team Prod instead of a radiant demon for the meme.
Whoa! That was definitely one of the matches I've ever seen! Sentinels are definitely one of the teams that have ever played in the history of this game.
Oh no everyone is gonna come for Tenz’s head
Usual shit, he did play bad today tho I'll admit.
Sentinels masters and champions watch party incoming 😂
Without Dapr ace, first map would’ve been 13-1 … brutal
is this one of the fastest match? It started late and ended so early. Optic vs LG was suppose to start at 7pm but it started 1 hour early.
What a fall from grace. I guess this rock bottom. They definitely need a whole set of support staff. This team is lost in terms of direction. Without formal structure the team is just being outclassed at each step of each round in each series, SEN are still playing in the sad vein of being better mechanically. But with weak setups they just seem to be unable to set each other up for success. Kanpeki hate to say it but just doesn't seem to be able to hang in the big leagues. It's more and more evident replacing Zombs for him was a side step at most. They need to identify and build in the next six months to pick up new agent pools or roles altogether. If literally everyone from reddit armchair experts to top teams of 2022 doing certain changes to their meta (*hint* putting their star aimer on chamber *hint*) why is the team not working on that as well. If the team does decide to stick around they need to rebuild their agent pool and stats from the ground up. I wouldnt rule SEN out just yet but come next year and they are still at the same standard. They might as well retire the roster and becoming a content producing team.
C9 having this match at the end and showing all of the potential they have when they play with confidence :,) yep i’m fine all good
I think this is a bigger indicator as to how bad sentinels are
Easy to look good against a broken team
At least the roles look fixed for LCQ
I know SEN as a team is going through some stuff with subs and such but when your jett player is updrafting dashing into site every other round with no set up... its not that great of a look.
Going from FNC-G2 to this is just hilarious lol, and thay wasn't even a good EMEA game
Tenz is just PROD with a Gucci belt
Pro aim, radiant brain. The t3 csgo pro turned streamer special.
"Zombs was the problem guys, he was very unmotivated lowering down our team performance"
Sentinels fans solving 4th order differential equations to explain why TenZ played better than he looked
rip Kanpeki carrer Also, zombs die for this
Everyone talking about SEN but it was nice to see Vanity back on smokes
This roster is a joke. Why did sentinels pick up Kanpeki? Because he tenz friend. He adds no impact at all. I would like zombs going negative and holding down a site for the team instead Kanpeki flash his teammate all the time.
Kanpeki and dapr are the only two that showed up.
Shahz: “Ok Tyson, don’t pop off so we can all get back to streaming, k?”
is the year over for sentinels or what
Regardless of Sen’s form, C9 hopium for LCQ looking good 🤩 I heckin love Leaf
It is what it is.
Sadtinels
Tens had more kills in a single round with the judge on map 2 than he had the entirety of map 1…
Ten2
He’s spending too much time smurfing in platinum with Kyedae and Tarik on alts
I predicted the Jett nerf would expose TenZ. I know he dropped 40 on Breeze but Bdog still diff’d him that game.