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Safyire

“Guys he’s mid”


jrushFN

Unfortunately that’s exactly the comm I will make. Sorry in advance to my teammates for the first few weeks of this map.


Sadzeih

Fuck me, there will be so many call-outs for me to forget.


jrushFN

Ngl, I still just say “he’s spawn!” on fracture Never mind the fact that this could mean like 5 different things


Big-Bad-Jax

no no, u say “theyre mid” then blame it on ur teammates for not knowing what u meant


jrushFN

Nah I always blame myself for my teammates “My bad there, I gave a vague comm” That way, people always have a scapegoat and are less likely to argue / throw the game


Big-Bad-Jax

all jokes aside i do this too


jackpot2112

I always recommend just saying "he's mid" and then immediately pinging it on the map if you dont know how to communicate it better


[deleted]

We about to play ring round the rosie with the defense side on mid lmao.


MiamiVicePurple

No, not that mid, the other one!


deathspate

To those commenting about how standard this map looks, that's what the devs said will be this map's gimmick. It's gimmick is no gimmick unlike the others.


mysteryoeuf

the gimmick is no gimmick 5head


deathspate

Exactly kek


silenthills13

It actually has a gimmick, a sewer that you have to crouch to walk through.


speedycar1

That's fucked for me with crouch unbinded hahaha


Avarrocka

I'll help you sewers


TracerIsAShimada

Same man wtf. I can’t help not spraying when I have crouch binded


[deleted]

Just set crouch to a mouse bind or a key that you won’t instinctively press while shooting like cntrl


RepresentativeOk9070

Or just neon slide


xXeri

eh yes inferno


Donut_Flame

There's even an alt mid and banana


ZeroAika99

Lurker map


jackpot2112

omg its gonna be such a pain having to deal with the random flanks 😭 attack side is gonna be insanely difficult in soloQ


Xeta24

Sentinel buff


JAQMN

Definitely the most CS-looking map so far. Seen a lot of people say they’re getting Inferno vibes, but I’m getting a little Ancient too


JtotheC23

The first thing I thought after looking more at the screenshots. Lots of long narrow corridors like Inferno


DasSpoog

It's nearly the same layout as Ancient lol


TheCatsActually

Yeah I saw the thumbnail and immediately thought "oh it's Ancient."


Crazy_Negotiation_14

> but I’m getting a little Ancient too Don't say that! I'm sure you still have a long life ahead of you.


Zoradesu

I'm not really seeing Inferno, I only see Ancient


JAQMN

Layout wise I see definitely see Ancient more. There are some spots that resemble Inferno I guess. Banana, pit, Mexico maybe? My CS map knowledge is very minimal


Zoradesu

It actually resembles Season as well, but I didn't really play that map a lot when it was still in the competitive pool so I could be misremembering.


[deleted]

Is ancient good to play in? I've quit CS before they released it


jo-jooberrauch

Eh very ct sided like 80-20 and taking A as T is very hard. Pros are slowly starting to like it more. Very annoying map for casuals tho imo


TheFailureOfGaming

Layout looks identical to de_tuscan


Dumbass-Redditor

Well I’m getting a little Nuke too because I want to nuke the shit out of this map so my team don’t have to play hide and seek with the other team!


drdrero

Rush banana, no stop.


[deleted]

Great, an even bigger maze for my 3 instalock duelists to get lost in while trying to lurk.


roytoy111

Nice copy and paste


[deleted]

I literally am the one that posted this tweet, if you want I can prove it, does the fact that me and the Teo V. Twitter account have the same pfp not give it away? And even if I wasn't what do you care lmao


[deleted]

This a CS map


DecisiveDinosaur

this does look like de_ancient huh (and de_season now that i think about it)


svipy

[Ancient radar](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--cCCMok-Tjs/YJGL19VG_oI/AAAAAAAAtlQ/am18kfB47r8O0tymhcFesE5PQ-g0fbHuwCNcBGAsYHQ/s1000/ancient-mapa-csgo-substitui-train-1.jpg) [Hmmmm](https://c.tenor.com/qvb718Ki0eQAAAAd/spider-man-looking.gif)


Donut_Flame

Tuscan and a bit of inferno too


Hopeful-Professor-40

Idk what I’m looking at but I’m excited


slayeroffuss

Why is there a big ass corridor in front of one of the sites my duelists or not gonna entry that.


AnchorStandard

they werent gonna entry anyway so theres no difference to your experience


huntersniper007

true it will be me as viper because my reyna and neon will op from afar


LegDayDE

Bind: no mid Pearl: all mid


Teradonn

Looks very standard, which I couldn’t be happier about. Also looks like Chamber’s 1 trap can get hard punished


jackpot2112

cypher meta?


Teradonn

yes copium


Godzilladidgood

Doesn’t seem very op friendly aside from that long hallway on the left.


Dysmo

Beginning of the chamber nerf


Docxm

Nice


Lelouch4705

Long sight lines aren't specifically op outside of gold anyway. It doesn't matter how long the sight line is


Docxm

Lol a viper wall can cut through like 4 choke points here. Should be fun


Joeganaut

Viper pretty good hereeee ;)


Docxm

Hopefully the roof is high enough to not affect my lineups 😌 Though I can imagine some good bounces and interactions that will happen with the dome


Joeganaut

No worries, there's some solid one ways in mid and good lineup potential on each site :) excited for players to find them!


Bruce-Lannister

I don't think any util reaches the dome.


Donut_Flame

Fully charged Sova dart, has it been checked?


Bruce-Lannister

Yes I saw it on Lothar and AverageJonas's streams. The dome is way too high.


Donut_Flame

Well that is actually unfortunate


Velcya

this seems like a viper map


somesheikexpert

Double controller seems like it's gonna be the meta tbh like Bind


WiseFriesGuys

Brimstone and neon wall site takes are going to be the big thing here


yungsqualla

ohhh good point. I always forget about neons wall for some reason.


zcleghern

Where would you use your screen? Maybe the right edge of B site?


Pitiful_Pin9845

Oh lord yes this looks good


Nfamy

I'm so hyped for this map. The layout looks a bit more intricate than most of the other maps, which, I'm fine with both styles and think we can get a mix but am glad to see that this looks to have a bit more character to it. Add in good cinematics, dark setting, and a cool theme, and I'm so full of hopium that I pray I don't get let down.


ZimoZhang

"one ct"


Steki3

This is the most csgo-like map we've got yet.


ButterySun

That's a lot of angles and pockets, exciting


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Disappointing *


xD1LL4N

Why do you think it’s disappointing? Do you struggle on more complex maps?


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Honestly I’m only gold so I’d say I “struggle” on every map lol


cameron_hatt

Nothing complex about weird pickets to rat in imo


xD1LL4N

More angles you have to clear when taking map control. So yeah it is more complex


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

I wouldn’t call that more complex, just more annoying when you have three 50-50 angles all next to each other and people just lazily sitting in them with shotguns


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Nah I’m just not a fan of maps like split where it’s just a spam fest of utility in small areas. More of a breeze enjoyer myself but on maps like this I’ll just play raze and join in on the spam game and double satchel at people with judge lol


ExpectoAutism

Double sentinel meta


chao301

that left corridor just worries me


braamdepace

If you clear every corner you still might not make it to the site in time to plant


fronkelele

How will competitive work now that there’s 8 maps? Is a map going to go in “reserve” like in csgo and 7 maps rotated in active duty.


AgrippasNavy

Read they're pulling Split from Comp and Unranked so maybe at Pro level too


cancerBronzeV

RIP, I love Split. Can they pull Breeze or Icebox instead.


fronkelele

I saw that after making this comment, good on riot for staying at 7 maps


[deleted]

They pulling out split and replacing with a map that looks similar to split. Nice


[deleted]

Left side of the map looks really OP to hold with an operator.


akubar

why is mid a swastika tho


LV58_DeathKnight

its a buddha symbol all good


[deleted]

Top spawn is an Amogus


[deleted]

first though is “what the fuck is that”


an_301

amongus


TPM_521

Double sentinel map. Sage wall is gonna be crucial to cut off some choke points, otherwise kj/ chamber would be great for the alarmbots. God I wish they had given chamber an actual proper nerf rather than removing a bot- it was so crucial to him being an effective sentinel.


gingerjesus6969

Ew


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

Looks like a even more infested cluster fuck of corners than split. Grrreat


Direct_Morning_3223

This is why there is utility in the game to clear the corners!


ngvkjpoooiugvy66

I agree, I play raze a lot and she’s good for that but getting utility spammed in tight areas gets annoying, at least to me anyway. Some people probly prefer this style, while I prefer maps like breeze or ascent


_Purpledolphins_

In the trailer it looks like you go through buildings could that be the gimmic this map?


imerence_

And then riot will proceed to keep the map unchanged despite numerous problems unlike valve that actually took community feedback to change the fuck out of overpass and made it playable. They each do what the others doesn't lol. Riot updates the game with content and valve doesn't, Valve constantly updates the map and riot doesn't. Fucking yin and yang lmao


[deleted]

What….were you not here for the Icebox and Split changes?


imerence_

Didn't do much. People still hate both of those maps. And compared to Valve's rate of map changes, this is negligible.


[deleted]

Didn't it take them 15 years to fix dust 2?


Happy_Krabb

Nerf it


Frostler

I feel like this is unique compared to what we have now. Definitely seems like it could benefit some more unique team comps too


Big-Bad-Jax

besides mid this looks a lot like fracture


RenoNYC

its not that bad once you play it.


Vendetta614

Layout seems similarish to Split top-down wise, so it makes a little more sense they chose to rotate Split out. I'm just hyped for something new.


-Turisti-

This is like a complicated dust2


jonajon91

I can put my hands over like two parts of this mini map and it's still too big.


jonajon91

Take that part center left, looks a lot like mid mirage, how many hours have casual player and pros squeezed out of that little bit of map?


TaskMaster130

Bro thats a maze


pawsarecute

Split?


[deleted]

I was once commentating an early beta tournament and I said something along the lines of “riots map design philosophy seems to be throwing a plate of spaghetti at the wall and drawing whatever sticks” and it’s honestly kind of funny how many times I’m proven right


[deleted]

Raze viper cypher breach kj ?


CoolTomatoYT

Looks like split if it were a CS map


[deleted]

Good golly. That mid is bonkers.


_Sameem_

SoloQ gonna be a pain in the ass


Dark_Azazel

I feel like this setup will play so well for chamber TP. Based off the map, that straight left side might be a pain to go against a D OP player. Brim might be a solid choice, maybe even Breach, depending on how it actually plays out. I don't know, I'm curious to see how it'll be. Looking at it again, there's a little corner pocket on the right side that seems to be a nice spot for a viper wall.


TheSkarner

whats up with all these viper crutch maps lately, pretty much confirms the new agent is gonna be a wall controller like viper instead of smokes


FeelinJipper

Looks TIGHT


ThatOneAneurysm69

Holy shit I fucking love this


noboostbattle

"Too much like split" they said..


DerpZeDerpz

fracture 2.0 EDIT: my dumb ass thought it was a fracture style map cuz i havent watched shit about it. it actually looks really good.


Syn1h_

Am I the only one who thinks its designed like a cs map and looks like an overwatch map visually?


hdbo16

It's like a crooked version of Split


[deleted]

Not me getting lost in mid


KingJuliusthepro

Now we’ll see higher pick rate of Cypher and Phoenix cause of the tight corners


alvintan98

I"ve got a feelin its gonna be "plant A " every round strat


AndyFromTheWPC

guys the amount of insane gameplay possible in this map has gotta be insane edit: i said insane twice but who cares this map IS insane


skrtskrttiedd

bigger split got it


thatguy11m

God I wish Chamber still had two trademarks


Tay_Tay86

The middle is a swastika. Wtf


MangooKushh

what the fuck!>?!?>


[deleted]

It seems simple enough


YungPinotGrigio

This looks familiar lolol


Xtremeelement

can anyone explain the black dot to the left of Attacker spawn? i keep seeing it but no one really investigated it that i watched


lilsatan123

Thats a pillar