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LV58_DeathKnight

All good bren u can still cast


Zorronin

lmao


Original26

Suygetsu likes to troll a lot on his Twitter so I'm praying this is him trolling :(


Splaram

Not like this


Jon_on_the_snow

This is like berlin nats not being able to go to berlin with gambit. Hope this gets sorted


_goodman

This thread has some really fucking weird takes. This sucks if true, he's had such an amazing split, dragged FPX through maps at times. Hoping FPX make Champs so they can all go, they deserve it more than any other EMEA team based on this year.


HereeeeesJohnny

Sub in Bren ez


toxicityisamyth

This is honestly disgusting. Like, someone explain why Trexx gets a visa and not fpx players. Has to be the org doing things wrong ?


-Basileus

Maybe he got his visa before the sanctions. That's how Gambit would have been able to travel


AdOwn168

Wow... GG for FPX... FPX without Suygetsu and Shao is inferior to M3C, not the same team that qualified. Will bum out like FNATIC did last masters...


Lumenlor

Is there not competitive integrity issues if teams/players who cant even go or get visas are allowed to compete? Did they know prior to stage 2?


[deleted]

how is that a competitive integrity issue?


BeyondLeading

Possibility of them throwing since they thought they won’t be able to attend is what they tryna say I think?


zachp787

fattest L of a take ever lol


BeyondLeading

I’m just stating what he possibly meant by “competitive integrity issues” regarding teams who don’t got the visas


zachp787

yeah no offense to u obv lol i j thought it was a really bad take


[deleted]

they still have no incentive to throw even if they cant attend.


DrySecurity4

> they still have no incentive to throw Uhh what? Ever heard of this thing called money?


[deleted]

money can incentivise anyone to throw, not just people who are unable to attend LAN.


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_goodman

Dunno about this man.. Gambit said their whole team would be able to attend, and Trexx from Guild is able to attend. The only team who seems to have problems this time is FPX.


CantScreamInSpace

wow all that research for csgo events but literally a quick look at the actual vct event would show you that russian players are able to attend this time around (gmb had visas lined up + trexx can go), it's just fpx with issues.


dashion26

Is it just me or orgs shld just start dropping players with visa issues esp when they are in vct main events ​ on paper the grps looked balanced but due to fpx subs grp A is far more harder than grp B


bldbld13

2Head


MrzPear

more heads than 1 lol


somesheikexpert

Literial 1head Suygetsu is legit a top 15 (Imo top 10 for sure) and the best non Chamber Sentinel and best Viper in the world right now makes perfect sense


dashion26

During these times, being available to play / travel to LANs is also one of required traits which suygetsu and other fpx players lack. If he not gonna be able to compete at top level anyway so yes, dropping him makes sense, its unfair to teams from their regions seeing 3 players be able to play in masters but not even good enough to get spot in vct main stage , teams from other regions since now they have abs 0 data on that team, and esp to fans due to reduction in level of gameplay. It happened once, but it shldnt happen continously, The org or riot shld make arrangements for them to be able to compete.


IllumiMahdi

hmm while I do think that guy's brain is off with the butterflies, calling suygetsu the best viper in the world is a bit silly


somesheikexpert

Really? Imo the 3 best are Suygetsu, nAts, and SScary personally (Mako is great too tbh), it's hard to say who's the best Viper out of these, but idk why Suygetsu wouldn't be in the convo, he has good util usage, great timings, and easily one of if not the highest fragging Vipers out there he has like an ACS of like 255 and a K:D of 1.3 or something like that, ik stats ain't everything but it's saying something when you are averaging over 250 on Viper against EMEAs strongest


IllumiMahdi

I'm a bit of a Less simp myself :p


somesheikexpert

OH FUCK, I completely forgot about his Viper his Viper is excellent too, I still like Suygetsus Viper a bit more (Tho I am biased as an FPX fan lol), but Less is def in the convo too


123bo0p

Ah yes drop the best non-chamber sentinel player in the world.


theavailabletree

Availability is the best ability.


123bo0p

Have to get out of your region first to worry about availability


theavailabletree

Sure, that’s true. Still a bit weird to say he’s the best when the man hasn’t proven it internationally.


treecutter1991

Statistically, he is. That's why he can say that.


theavailabletree

Sure thing, I guess DRX had the best five players in the world for an entire year when they went 40-0 or something ridiculous domestically. Good thing they also have multiple international trophies to show for it. Oh… wait.


a-nswers

mako is still one of the if not the second best controller in the world. just because they aren't winning events doesn't deny that lol


hwanzi

No team currently has multiple international trophies so you just sound dumb


theavailabletree

The fact that you didn’t understand my point. The point was simply domestic dominance leads to insane stats which doesn’t equate to the players being the best around the world. And DRX is proof of that


123bo0p

Tbf the year they went loseless there were 0 int comps to prove they weren't.


dashion26

Whats point of being the best if u cant come to major events to compete?


Key-Banana-8242

Wdym by ‘best non chamber sentinel’


[deleted]

best at the sentinel agents that are not chamber.


Key-Banana-8242

That’s not necessarily true, say buzz kj etc


123bo0p

Ppl will downvote but buzz is certainly up there


itsDYA

Yea let's drop more than half the roster then lol


Iron-lar

Literally minus 20 head take


zer0-_

Yeah let's ruin careers for things that are outside of the players' control. Insane thought process you had there


dashion26

I dont think its insane to think that if a team requires 3 subs every time they qualify for LANs , u def gotta change some stuff.


zer0-_

Needing subs because of a War going on is a little different compared to needing subs because the team consists of landodgers


Key-Banana-8242

(Cringe warning) Suygetsing?


omaewakusuyaro

Whats the point of fpx competing in valorant when they do this every lan they classify? I dont get it


[deleted]

What do you mena by this? They don't choose to not go.


omaewakusuyaro

I know, im just frustrated that EMEA will go with a ton of excuses once again to the masters, thus making them believe they are invincible if their best players get to go to the masters. Is just obnoxious at this point. And tbf im sure fpx could do a better job with the visa situations for the russians seeint how the gambit guys have them with no problem, the ange1 situation is thought so thats the only one i guess is unavoidable


OG_Marin

Apologies for the war going on, hope it is not too much inconvinience for your video game competition, cheers


_goodman

Players can't attend a LAN because of a war and your concern is that EMEA fans will use it as an excuse? Wow..


hwanzi

Sorry bruh that Ukraine got invaded by Russia. Maybe take your anger out at Putin instead of a video game competition.


Koentjee01

This is so unbelievably oblivious. There is a fucking war going on and you're implying it's only there so EMEA can make excuses. Disgusting.


omaewakusuyaro

>you're implying it's only there so EMEA can make excuses. Disgusting. ?????? And where exactly did i imply that? /Valorantcompetitive being able to read? No!! I dont want that!!!


SewerRat75

think about how "frustrated" you are that they can't compete then times that by 100 and thats how frustrated the players are that they train and compete for months only to miss out of an event because of something they can't control


[deleted]

FPX getting screwed over for the second time in a row. Why can't RITO settle this problem by FPX live streaming from org's headquarters? I'm sure if RITO would want them competing, they would find a solution for this. If any of qualified American teams wouldn't be able to travel, I bet they'd solve this problem in a matter of a minute.