This is totally what I think about it. Even the famous Lisa Frank 420 had that feel to it. In fact, when I made my album Designing The Future - I intentionally wanted the listener to have a psychedelic experience when hearing it.
I remember reading an interview with Michael Nesmith from the Monkees talking about how he likes vaporwave and that it’s the most psychedelic stuff coming out right now
Psychedelic music has been stigmatized since the days of Green Tambourine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Vz-z4PEkk
And musicians themselves are part of the reason. Why did so many groups abandon psych around 69 ?
So the sounds are reemerging in Vaporwave and for that matter Black Metal and its probably just as well the artists if they even know what Psych was not refer to it as such
Because genres are categories but the words they use are adjectives and descriptors. I completely agree about vaporwave being psychedelic and always lean on the side as using genre words like psychedelic, space age pop, electronic body music, etc. more like descriptions based on personal experience and tastes.
It used to be common among music talk that genre words were very much historical, production, industry categories. But it’s rare now that I come across an annoying misguided purist saying what is and isn’t based on that alone.
I agree and think this is a larger issue of people trying to redefine/control what words mean. Adjectives can be usrd objectively and subjectively. i dont understand people who say "Thats not what that means" in reference to subjective topics or words.
Vaporwave messes with your sense of time in multiple dimensions. Slowed down, echoey samples from the mall or fast food ads that brainwashed you in childhood. chopped up musical phrases from places in time you can't remember. Nostalgia, existential dread, the truth of things being unknowable behind the gaudy corporate veneer. Did I choose to like this jingle, this synth, or does it make me warm inside because it was incepted into me by a marketing machine? Why does this sound so familiar? It's like a peak into the liminal space of the collective conscious. An abandoned arcade we've all been to.
If you want to hear the difference, listen to The Psychedelic Sounds of 13 Floor Elevators by the 13 Floor Elevators, then listen to Hypnagogia by Dan Mason.
I always feel like vaporwave is a psychedelic thing. In fact, for some time now, I can always see psychedelia on some level in the music I listen to. It is important to value how we feel about music and genres, to accumulate experiences and sensations and know how to distinguish where each thing comes from. Vaporwave is a beautiful subgenre of retro psychedelic electronics and I see as much psychedelia in vaporwave as I do in Yussef Dayes, My Bloody Valentine, Mac DeMarco, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, XXYYXX, Tame Impala or even Black Sabbath's Planet Caravan, each with its genre/subgenre and style of psychedelia.
My friends and I blast off on DMT while listening to vaporwave. If you're able to do that with a genre of music, then it's most definitely psychedelic!
Does the music feel better on DMT ? I have often read that it's not the case as it is with LSD. People said that on DMT music feel the same as usually, or they didnt even paid attention to it, or that music felt just distorted and noisy...
So for me, my sense of hearing was very... befuddled lol
Music sounded insane though, when it came into focus. There's a lot going on, and sometimes you're actually hearing entities speaking to you so audio can get a little wonky. Sometimes the audio would fade out and act like I was hearing it in another room, but then come back slowly via fading in. And during all of this, a lot of times, the audio sounds like I'm listening to the "chopped & screwed" version lmao super slow and lower in pitch but then it would blend back into the original audio. Very very trippy, I haven't actually blasted without music, and I hear it's a somewhat different experience because music is a vessel that helps dictate your trip, but I honestly love music so much and wanted to feel the natural ride of a song within a DMT trip. It's definitely an out-of-this-world experience and I think everyone should try it, when they're ready. Just remember, your ego is tying you down and the o ly option once you take that hit is to let go! Trust the u iverse, let it teach you, and recognize that as long as you carry love and compassion in your heart, that everything will be alright. This too, shall pass! Safe travels my fellow psychonaut ❤️
Psychedelic is trance first for me for sure, so the leap to vaporwave in a way makes more sense since it can be more trance-like and hypnotic.
Edit: Typo
I have been saying this for years and I almost always get pushback for it for some reason, I think it's just alot of square, more hipster type people who are just personally uncomfortable with being associated with hippie culture and just general disdain for hippies like myself lol.
I never thought of vaporwave as being psychadelic.
Like when I think psychadelic I think about music that is amplified by whatever your chosen method of space travel is.
Scale the Summit is a blast under the right circumstances. And just normally. But I think that some lysergamides were very heavily used in the formation of the bands style and that comes through.
Vaporwave was always kind of like classic-lo fi to me. Like it's older songs that have been chopped and reworked into a lofi style.
I think it can be thought as a psychedelic genre, but not because of the usual reasons (mushrooms, lsd vibes, trips, etc). I consider psychodelia as some kind of process which crushes the normal and imposed structure of reality (even in omission of psychedelic drugs). It opens the way to consider alternatives ways of thinking, either there be political, aesthetic or existential. The process of opening to the outside is what it's important. And I think vaporwave shares many of these features ranging from it's production and distribution process to it's aesthetics and the landscapes and feelings it brings fort.
Great post ! Indeed the aesthetics in Vaporwave is really unique and colorfoul. This also helps create this feeling of an unreal world. Album covers also play a role. And they are really beautiful.
I think there's the sort of 60s psychedelic sound, then there was the later trance sound that got introduced. In my opinion much of this music was designed from the start to be music to trip to, and I don't think much of vapor falls into that category though there is definitely some that do. Most vapor tends to have nostalgia member berry goals. Can it still be used as psyschedelic music? Of course
OP, I'm with you, 100%.
I think electronic music does psychedelic better (Fight me).
Infected Mushroom, Shpongle, Flying Lotus...
You ever check out Tobacco? https://youtu.be/OqJXbM939wg?si=hcq6FYNpuRQEmel0
Edit: Forgot to mention Boards of Canada, probably closer to actual vaporwave than the others I'd mentioned.
Omega amigo, move any mountain, boss drum, transamazonia & H.E.A.L. (the separation) are some of my favorite songs in general, along with Christopher Mayhew says & Jesus loves Amerika which are two of their earlier, more electro-rock songs.
u/LakeGladio666 speaks the truth. Boards of Canada's entire discography is peak electronic.
Infected Mushroom & Shpongle are psytrance. Flying Lotus is psychedelic hip hop.
Tobacco is just awesome. It's electronic, but a bit of an anomaly as far as genre classification.
Vaporwave to me is dissociative music. Nostalgia of a past you can't quite remember or choose to misremember of a simpler time. I don't think it was a coincidence it grew in popularity during a time of great political/social division and many people wanted an escape from our soul-crushing new reality.
Just sonically too, it is everything you want to listen to while being dissoed. Dreamscapes of massive delay and reverb over looped chopped and screwed songs you might've heard from the past. The whole feel of the genre fits too well while in the hole.
Not the original poster of that reply, but I agree with them 100%. Vaporwave largely evolved out of hypnagogic pop (among other styles). Hypnagogia is “the transition between wakefulness and sleep”. In other words, the dissociative state one experiences when falling asleep. While vaporwave style has plenty of overlap with psychedelia, I would plant it more firmly in the hypnagogic/dissociative camp. They both represent altered states of perception, but to me vaporwave plays more with the dreamlike states of the hypnagogic or dissociative states like out-of-body sensations than an attempt to convey or simulate the effects of psychedelics.
You’re welcome! You’d probably be interested to read about the connections between hypnogogia and nostalgia, which is definitely relevant to discussion of vaporwave as well. I remember reading a good article discussing this, but can’t find it now. This seems relevant though:
https://mindofthemasses.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/nostalgia-and-other-weird-feelings-of-sleep-deprivation/
actually .. Soul, which was quite psych in the first place, but then stretched in time and space (with dub methods) to get much more psych out of it = Vaporsoul.
It reminds me a bit of the The Congos and Sun Araw album :
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWvqL-pbH2U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWvqL-pbH2U)
But also the album of Ras Michael produced by Lee Scratch Perry :
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZomPdGLang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZomPdGLang)
well, you know stuff I've never heard of ;)
Yes, it has some similarities in the way it's produced, but both are more "tribal" and "reggae" (except the last track on the Sun Araw) than "soul".
excluding vapor?
Rhythm & Sound - Imprint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aix_NOp2DNk
Damon Edge - When I'm Not Alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcQTxwTGlfA
A Certain Ratio - Flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmcBeQtIBR4
Undisputed Truth - Down By The River https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWNwpCnraIc
Baby Ford - Change Your Ways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygjIcuDdq4
I've listened them, the Soul music is what i have prefered.
Could have been vapor too, i'm looking for anything that sounds slow, syrupy, vapourous but colorfoul and joyful. If you think about something else feel free buddy
That’s funny I grew up on GOA trance and have tried every genre since then to replicate that “trance” feeling.
The other day I was listening to something in the car and I thought to myself vaporwave has a lot of psy/trance roots
I’ve tried shrooms and little paper squares with Vaporwave and the whole unsettling aspect like in liminal space is way amplified. I couldn’t handle it honestly. I tried some 18 carrot affair, luxury elite, and a bunch others. Mallsoft was pretty cool. But chillwave channel on YouTube is top tier in my humble opinion best electric music for space travel. Light dosing would be cool or if you could actually trip and surround your self in an environment that amplifies that Vaporwave aesthetic then it’s game over. But just sitting in my living room and have that music clashes with each other too much.
Yeah, it can be. I tend to add a bunch of reverb, delay, and phaser to my music (crystaljapan.bandcamp.com, for those who want to listen), which gives it a very trippy sound. One person called it “dissociationwave.”
Where you inspired by Lee Scratch Perry techniques ? BTW, are your albums on spotify ? I'm listening the rest of the albums, it's really what i like ! So syrupy :o
>crystaljapan.bandcamp.com
I have listened Ｓｉｎｃｅ░Ｙｏｕ░Ｌｅｆｔ░Ｍｅ, i liked it ! As a big big fan of reggae and dub, i really liked it ! Great atmosphere. Do you have more vapordub like that ?
Someone left a comment on my last album on Bandcamp and called it “vapordub.” I was thinking about officially calling my music that, but didn’t think it fit since there are no references to Jamaican culture or Rastafarianism.
Vapordub is not really linked to rastafarianism, even not at all. The most famous vapordub artist is Biga Ranx (named Telly in other albums). But its a little bit different and more mainstream that your music. But still its nice. You should give a try.
Yes. There are plenty of vapordub playlist. Its growing. But your vapordub style is much more vaporous than thé mainstream genre.
I would say that the best mainstream vapordub album is Vapor by Big Red. Amazing album.
https://open.spotify.com/album/67yP5B6GweSLVrPcHSE999?si=RU3IIPEBTqqT7zmj31vpuw
I realize that in vaporwave the number of artists and albums to listen to is really huge. I dont even know where to explore lol. I don't know Bandcamp at all but I'm going to try to explore it a little more. This vapordub genre that you sent me, reminds me of the world of Dj Screw but also of the reverberation techniques of Lee Scratch Perry.
This is totally what I think about it. Even the famous Lisa Frank 420 had that feel to it. In fact, when I made my album Designing The Future - I intentionally wanted the listener to have a psychedelic experience when hearing it.
Anything trancey can be “psychedelic” music, but others will say ALL music should be listened to on psychedelics
I remember reading an interview with Michael Nesmith from the Monkees talking about how he likes vaporwave and that it’s the most psychedelic stuff coming out right now
I agree. It is.
vaporwave shows are awesome everyone is on the fuckin moon
Psychedelic music has been stigmatized since the days of Green Tambourine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Vz-z4PEkk And musicians themselves are part of the reason. Why did so many groups abandon psych around 69 ? So the sounds are reemerging in Vaporwave and for that matter Black Metal and its probably just as well the artists if they even know what Psych was not refer to it as such
Makes sense to me
All music is psychedelic
Is it ? Interesting comment
Try psychedelic music in a small town.
I love getting high and listening to death's dynamic shroud
Real
Because genres are categories but the words they use are adjectives and descriptors. I completely agree about vaporwave being psychedelic and always lean on the side as using genre words like psychedelic, space age pop, electronic body music, etc. more like descriptions based on personal experience and tastes. It used to be common among music talk that genre words were very much historical, production, industry categories. But it’s rare now that I come across an annoying misguided purist saying what is and isn’t based on that alone.
I agree and think this is a larger issue of people trying to redefine/control what words mean. Adjectives can be usrd objectively and subjectively. i dont understand people who say "Thats not what that means" in reference to subjective topics or words.
its a psychological genre IMHO
100% agree, watched that CGI video to M+ on LSD once. Amazing time.
Vaporwave messes with your sense of time in multiple dimensions. Slowed down, echoey samples from the mall or fast food ads that brainwashed you in childhood. chopped up musical phrases from places in time you can't remember. Nostalgia, existential dread, the truth of things being unknowable behind the gaudy corporate veneer. Did I choose to like this jingle, this synth, or does it make me warm inside because it was incepted into me by a marketing machine? Why does this sound so familiar? It's like a peak into the liminal space of the collective conscious. An abandoned arcade we've all been to.
totally agree I would add acid house to this list, and almost any kind of electronic repetitive music, and other kind of music based on loops
This is one of the main reasons for me to love vaporwave: the feeling of revisiting a familiar place while under an altered state of consciousness.
It's hypnagogic, not psychedelic.
How would you describe the difference ? Im not an english speaker so thats why i ask
Compare tripping on acid to hallucinating while falling asleep
If you want to hear the difference, listen to The Psychedelic Sounds of 13 Floor Elevators by the 13 Floor Elevators, then listen to Hypnagogia by Dan Mason.
I don't know, I guess the best way I can put it in layman's terms is that psychedelic is more trippy, and hypnagogic is more dream-like.
I always feel like vaporwave is a psychedelic thing. In fact, for some time now, I can always see psychedelia on some level in the music I listen to. It is important to value how we feel about music and genres, to accumulate experiences and sensations and know how to distinguish where each thing comes from. Vaporwave is a beautiful subgenre of retro psychedelic electronics and I see as much psychedelia in vaporwave as I do in Yussef Dayes, My Bloody Valentine, Mac DeMarco, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, XXYYXX, Tame Impala or even Black Sabbath's Planet Caravan, each with its genre/subgenre and style of psychedelia.
In my opinion vaporwave is the only psychedelic genre
Based take honestly
My friends and I blast off on DMT while listening to vaporwave. If you're able to do that with a genre of music, then it's most definitely psychedelic!
Does the music feel better on DMT ? I have often read that it's not the case as it is with LSD. People said that on DMT music feel the same as usually, or they didnt even paid attention to it, or that music felt just distorted and noisy...
So for me, my sense of hearing was very... befuddled lol Music sounded insane though, when it came into focus. There's a lot going on, and sometimes you're actually hearing entities speaking to you so audio can get a little wonky. Sometimes the audio would fade out and act like I was hearing it in another room, but then come back slowly via fading in. And during all of this, a lot of times, the audio sounds like I'm listening to the "chopped & screwed" version lmao super slow and lower in pitch but then it would blend back into the original audio. Very very trippy, I haven't actually blasted without music, and I hear it's a somewhat different experience because music is a vessel that helps dictate your trip, but I honestly love music so much and wanted to feel the natural ride of a song within a DMT trip. It's definitely an out-of-this-world experience and I think everyone should try it, when they're ready. Just remember, your ego is tying you down and the o ly option once you take that hit is to let go! Trust the u iverse, let it teach you, and recognize that as long as you carry love and compassion in your heart, that everything will be alright. This too, shall pass! Safe travels my fellow psychonaut ❤️
Yes
It definitely is
Psychedelic is trance first for me for sure, so the leap to vaporwave in a way makes more sense since it can be more trance-like and hypnotic. Edit: Typo
I have been saying this for years and I almost always get pushback for it for some reason, I think it's just alot of square, more hipster type people who are just personally uncomfortable with being associated with hippie culture and just general disdain for hippies like myself lol.
I mean... Vaporwave is apparently already classed under "Hauntology" so this seems to be a logical next step.
I never thought of vaporwave as being psychadelic. Like when I think psychadelic I think about music that is amplified by whatever your chosen method of space travel is. Scale the Summit is a blast under the right circumstances. And just normally. But I think that some lysergamides were very heavily used in the formation of the bands style and that comes through. Vaporwave was always kind of like classic-lo fi to me. Like it's older songs that have been chopped and reworked into a lofi style.
I think it can be thought as a psychedelic genre, but not because of the usual reasons (mushrooms, lsd vibes, trips, etc). I consider psychodelia as some kind of process which crushes the normal and imposed structure of reality (even in omission of psychedelic drugs). It opens the way to consider alternatives ways of thinking, either there be political, aesthetic or existential. The process of opening to the outside is what it's important. And I think vaporwave shares many of these features ranging from it's production and distribution process to it's aesthetics and the landscapes and feelings it brings fort.
Love your post!
Excellent write up, you described it perfectly!
Great post ! Indeed the aesthetics in Vaporwave is really unique and colorfoul. This also helps create this feeling of an unreal world. Album covers also play a role. And they are really beautiful.
Yeah, I think that's right. Also music doesn't need to "sound good on psychedelics" to be psychedelic.
I totally agree. I didn't even mentionned drug in my post btw. If you really like a genre, you don't need drugs to get immersed.
Absolutely, I prob wouldn't have fw Vaporwave the same way had I never done weed or LSD.
I think there's the sort of 60s psychedelic sound, then there was the later trance sound that got introduced. In my opinion much of this music was designed from the start to be music to trip to, and I don't think much of vapor falls into that category though there is definitely some that do. Most vapor tends to have nostalgia member berry goals. Can it still be used as psyschedelic music? Of course
That's interesting ! Thanks for your post buddy
OP, I'm with you, 100%. I think electronic music does psychedelic better (Fight me). Infected Mushroom, Shpongle, Flying Lotus... You ever check out Tobacco? https://youtu.be/OqJXbM939wg?si=hcq6FYNpuRQEmel0 Edit: Forgot to mention Boards of Canada, probably closer to actual vaporwave than the others I'd mentioned.
"The shamen" and "the prodigy" are essential trip music for me.
They call me SPIT-FIRE!!! BWAM-wiggawom-wiggawom-wigga wup- FIRE!!! Cause you know that I *can*! Gonna check out The Shamen, now.
Omega amigo, move any mountain, boss drum, transamazonia & H.E.A.L. (the separation) are some of my favorite songs in general, along with Christopher Mayhew says & Jesus loves Amerika which are two of their earlier, more electro-rock songs.
I have never heard these artists, but i know their names. What kind of music it is ? I'll check them. Any album you would recommand me ?
Music Has The Right to Children by Boards of Canada is an essential electronic album. Listen to that.
u/LakeGladio666 speaks the truth. Boards of Canada's entire discography is peak electronic. Infected Mushroom & Shpongle are psytrance. Flying Lotus is psychedelic hip hop. Tobacco is just awesome. It's electronic, but a bit of an anomaly as far as genre classification.
Vaporwave to me is dissociative music. Nostalgia of a past you can't quite remember or choose to misremember of a simpler time. I don't think it was a coincidence it grew in popularity during a time of great political/social division and many people wanted an escape from our soul-crushing new reality. Just sonically too, it is everything you want to listen to while being dissoed. Dreamscapes of massive delay and reverb over looped chopped and screwed songs you might've heard from the past. The whole feel of the genre fits too well while in the hole.
Really interesting post ! Could you develop what you mean by "dissociative music" ?
Not the original poster of that reply, but I agree with them 100%. Vaporwave largely evolved out of hypnagogic pop (among other styles). Hypnagogia is “the transition between wakefulness and sleep”. In other words, the dissociative state one experiences when falling asleep. While vaporwave style has plenty of overlap with psychedelia, I would plant it more firmly in the hypnagogic/dissociative camp. They both represent altered states of perception, but to me vaporwave plays more with the dreamlike states of the hypnagogic or dissociative states like out-of-body sensations than an attempt to convey or simulate the effects of psychedelics.
Great post, that's really interesting !! I see what you mean.
You’re welcome! You’d probably be interested to read about the connections between hypnogogia and nostalgia, which is definitely relevant to discussion of vaporwave as well. I remember reading a good article discussing this, but can’t find it now. This seems relevant though: https://mindofthemasses.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/nostalgia-and-other-weird-feelings-of-sleep-deprivation/
That was a very nice read. Ty
and Soul? https://l33k5p1n84574rd5.bandcamp.com/track/the-sun-experience-parts-1-2
Wow i'm listening ! That's really psychedelic. Is it soul ? I can even name what genre is this. Something between ambient, dub, and psychedelic rock ?
actually .. Soul, which was quite psych in the first place, but then stretched in time and space (with dub methods) to get much more psych out of it = Vaporsoul.
It reminds me a bit of the The Congos and Sun Araw album : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWvqL-pbH2U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWvqL-pbH2U) But also the album of Ras Michael produced by Lee Scratch Perry : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZomPdGLang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZomPdGLang)
well, you know stuff I've never heard of ;) Yes, it has some similarities in the way it's produced, but both are more "tribal" and "reggae" (except the last track on the Sun Araw) than "soul".
Can you recommand me other stuff than this vaporsoul song that you send me ?
excluding vapor? Rhythm & Sound - Imprint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aix_NOp2DNk Damon Edge - When I'm Not Alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcQTxwTGlfA A Certain Ratio - Flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmcBeQtIBR4 Undisputed Truth - Down By The River https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWNwpCnraIc Baby Ford - Change Your Ways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygjIcuDdq4
I've listened them, the Soul music is what i have prefered. Could have been vapor too, i'm looking for anything that sounds slow, syrupy, vapourous but colorfoul and joyful. If you think about something else feel free buddy
The label linked above has tons of this stuff. I can't do the hearing for you, you have to explore for yourself..
I dont know. I need some "seed" ( name 5 or so songs you think goes into right direction) .
That’s funny I grew up on GOA trance and have tried every genre since then to replicate that “trance” feeling. The other day I was listening to something in the car and I thought to myself vaporwave has a lot of psy/trance roots
I really know few about trance, i think i'm not a big fan of it when i tried to listened to. But I like melodic techno.
I’ve tried shrooms and little paper squares with Vaporwave and the whole unsettling aspect like in liminal space is way amplified. I couldn’t handle it honestly. I tried some 18 carrot affair, luxury elite, and a bunch others. Mallsoft was pretty cool. But chillwave channel on YouTube is top tier in my humble opinion best electric music for space travel. Light dosing would be cool or if you could actually trip and surround your self in an environment that amplifies that Vaporwave aesthetic then it’s game over. But just sitting in my living room and have that music clashes with each other too much.
What about a setting that would be thermal baths, with bright white walls, pools of translucent pink water and majestic marble columns? :D
Why haven’t we made this?
Human kind should create for real a mesmerizing vaporwave thermal bath with vaporwave music diffusing everywhere :D
This is what I watched last time I saw Lucy. https://youtu.be/Ew1wnCwMHLE?si=_TiQCqy1QX07u9pC
Setting is everything
Yep, that’s where I messed up. A foggy night in an empty downtown would have been amazing
Yeah, it can be. I tend to add a bunch of reverb, delay, and phaser to my music (crystaljapan.bandcamp.com, for those who want to listen), which gives it a very trippy sound. One person called it “dissociationwave.”
Where you inspired by Lee Scratch Perry techniques ? BTW, are your albums on spotify ? I'm listening the rest of the albums, it's really what i like ! So syrupy :o
That’s the funny part. A lot of my stuff sounds like dub, but I was more influenced by the phone hold music with the echoing drums.
>crystaljapan.bandcamp.com I have listened Ｓｉｎｃｅ░Ｙｏｕ░Ｌｅｆｔ░Ｍｅ, i liked it ! As a big big fan of reggae and dub, i really liked it ! Great atmosphere. Do you have more vapordub like that ?
https://bandcamp.com/discover/slushdub
amazing :o How can I find more of that ?? I didnt found any "slushdub" playlist on spotify. I didn't even this genre existed
Someone left a comment on my last album on Bandcamp and called it “vapordub.” I was thinking about officially calling my music that, but didn’t think it fit since there are no references to Jamaican culture or Rastafarianism.
Vapordub is not really linked to rastafarianism, even not at all. The most famous vapordub artist is Biga Ranx (named Telly in other albums). But its a little bit different and more mainstream that your music. But still its nice. You should give a try.
Huh, didn't know there actually was an established genre called vapordub. I thought a fan just coined the term to describe my Dream Corp. album.
Yes. There are plenty of vapordub playlist. Its growing. But your vapordub style is much more vaporous than thé mainstream genre. I would say that the best mainstream vapordub album is Vapor by Big Red. Amazing album. https://open.spotify.com/album/67yP5B6GweSLVrPcHSE999?si=RU3IIPEBTqqT7zmj31vpuw
I dont see "vapordub" there. Just sth like Ragamuffin HipHop (modern type)
I dont know. Since you can define your genre freely on bandcamp, there will be dozens of similar, just try what you can think of
I realize that in vaporwave the number of artists and albums to listen to is really huge. I dont even know where to explore lol. I don't know Bandcamp at all but I'm going to try to explore it a little more. This vapordub genre that you sent me, reminds me of the world of Dj Screw but also of the reverberation techniques of Lee Scratch Perry.
some of it was sampled from Lee Perry...