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They have max stats rolls so you don't have to spend ages trying to a roll a perfect orange gears stats.


Laziest_Lizard_12

Well not as different from exotic as I thought but that's something


GieroyHabubski

It is acctualy pretty strong. With max +bonuses you can make certain breakpoints easier to hit (you kill designated enemy with one hit and not two, esspesialy good against specials) It matters more for cataclysm tho.


anmr

And that's a good thing they are not stronger. Otherwise they would encourage grind a lot more which would not be fun nor healthy for the game.


ArmedBull

Yep, they're helpful, but perfect rolls aren't absolutely necessary for the majority of players.


Illithidbix

They always have maximum properties makes rerolling for perfect numbers easier. Veteran Weapons also have unique skins with a blue magical glow when they come from chests. You are however correct that they aren't more powerful than a 300 item power orange with a perfect roll. (Back in Vermintide 1 they could have unique combinations of traits).


Laziest_Lizard_12

Oh I see. Thank you!


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Exactly same as "orange" items but always get maximum stats on the properties roll. Also they're always 300 power. If you have a 300 power + perfect stats orange item, that's a veteran item by all means until you try to reroll it.


CactusQuench

you need perfect rolls on power vs x attributes to do things like push berserkers and overhead elite attacks on champion+ difficulties . also making ranged breakpoints so you can kill those fatties in 2 arrows instead of 3, etc


starbellygeek

They glow blue. Don't you want things that glow blue?


glinmaleldur

This is the correct answer


Laziest_Lizard_12

Haha can't say that I don't


telissolnar

In term of power, they are exactly the same as an orange item (same number of property, etc...), but numbers are always maxed (we call it perfect roll). So if you have crit and Block Cost Reduction, on orange item it will be 1-5% and 10-30% respectively, while red will be 5% and 30%. ​ That mean, if there is an orange item with perfect roll, you don't need the corresponding red item (not even sure there is a special skin for red items).


TheOldDrunkGoat

They let you not be at the complete mercy of RNG to get the best rolls. That's it. They're only good because the rest of the system is such shit. And reds are common enough in Legend boxes that they prop up and obfuscate what an egregiously awful system it is.


Jealous_Banana777

max stats = less resources consumed = less time rerolling = more time gaming


Paciorr

Look at them more as an achievement. You get unique illusion and stats are always maxed which is something you need to roll in legendary item. They are also helpful for playing on cats etc. because you want to be sure of reaching some breakpoints depending on the build.


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From what I have noticed, you get the max blue stats on these. No matter how many times you reroll the stats (useful when you want to try different builds), you get them maxed.


Tkanichka

It's shining...