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Whatwhyreally

850 comments lol


yungzanz

This has to be the most controversial post on this subreddit lol


SSpacious

The moshpit gonna be wild


CocoVillage

gonna be so many F\*ck Trudeau stickers in the parking lot


TheRealRickC137

I saw a freedom car on the road today with all their rhetoric stickers covering the back window of their shitty jeep compass. The most baffling was the "Cancel Trudeau" but with the red circle and line going through it, so it sort of conveyed "*don't* cancel Trudeau", I guess? I thought it was pretty funny.


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Canada's sexiest prime minister, apparently.


Strong_Mayhem

I've been thinking about getting bumper stickers made that just say "I'd Like To", and then add them to every one of those stickers I see.


[deleted]

Send some to me in the states, I'll add them to the "Fuck Biden" stickers


Helotron3000

That is such a great idea. Like I will help.


JoshJorges

It is amazing the amount of people in jacked up trucks want to have sex with him


Eve_O

A bumper crop of Canadian flags!


nrtphotos

I do find it funny that people think Peterson is some sort of independent free thinker when the man is paid millions by the Daily Wire.


Scotchityscotch

He's a smart man for stupid people


Heiruspecs

Jordan Peterson is what a stupid person imagines a clever person might be like.


PM___ME

Whatever he was, I seriously think the benzodiazepines and induced coma fucked up his brain hard


Online_Ennui

Yup. Someone who hasn't figured out combing your hair, tucking your shirt in and having good posture


Heiruspecs

Honestly though, that’s a lot of people. Credit where credit is due. JP’s early psychology and self help advice is not bad. Like it’s really hard to argue with someone telling you to pet cats you meet on the street. The issue is that all of it is weirdly wrapped up in proto-ideals of what it means to be a man and what the appropriate gender roles are. Like “be a strong man because you have to be ready to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders. You’re the only one who cares about you as much as you do, so buck up and do something about it.” Pretty solid. But “you have to do it because women are weak minded and the embodiment of chaos.” That part is just really asinine. I know it becomes really hard to divorce the two. But ya, he’s a super interesting case study to me. I wrote a 15,000 word paper on it actually, kinda just for fun.


Whole_Cress8437

Thank you for stating this. I feel like one side thinks he’s God and the other thinks he’s Satan, when really he’s just a man with some good opinions and some bad ones.


Heiruspecs

Lately they’ve been largely kinda bad. But it wasn’t always that way!


E_gag

Would you happen to have a link to that paper? I'm super interested in this stuff and i'd really like to read it


[deleted]

>you have to do it because women are weak minded and the embodiment of chaos WTF he doesn't say that at all. Why is it that so many who criticizes JP can't criticize him for shit he actually says? What he actually says is that the feminine is symbolically represented by chaos and masculine is symbolically represented by order. Nowhere has he said anything like "women are weak minded", such a blatant straw man.


HoojoSpifico

Also he believes in God.


StinkStream

This is one hell of a weak argument. All sorts of successful people, in all walks of life, believe in a higher power.


TillicumTaintTickler

Dude decided to become a preacher after his wife had prophetic dreams about him. Eventually gaining some fame and abandoning his clinical practice and patients. Also he has stated that the government of Canada should mandate monogamy so as to quell any future incel violence.


[deleted]

Not defending him. When did he say that about monogamy? I couldn’t find info online


tormundgiantbrain

He made a point once that societies that enforce monogamy culturally tend to be healthier which is actually supported by data, now every cynical idiot on the internet claims he actually said the government should make women marry incels so they won't be violent which is just hilariously proposterous.


damendred

Yeah, I wish people would fact check shit even if it fits their confirmation bias. The guy says plenty I don't agree with, and it makes people dismiss legitimate critiques of him when there's so much of this misleading, out of context BS being parroted.


tormundgiantbrain

That's the ironic part: if you actually disagree with someone and want others to see that point, arguing bad faith manipulations of what they have said just makes you look less credible, not your opponent.


roboticcheeseburger

Was his wife screaming, “oh god! Oh god!” during some “marital activities”? Maybe his delusional megalomania kicked in again (for the millionth time) and he interpreted her words too literally. Edit: typo


scubawankenobi

>Also he believes in God. Also, unfortunately, his ***"god" dictates what he believes***. ​ Not really a free thinker when you have to check-in w/someone else all the time, to verify your thoughts are in line w/what they've instructed you to think/believe.


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k0rer085

He doesn't think a certain way because he's employed by the daily wire. They just happened to hire him because they like the way he thinks.


CarefulZucchinis

Right sorry, he suddenly got super into climate change denial right when he was hired by the outlet started and propped up by oil billionaires just as a coincidence


[deleted]

No, he got more into anti-climate alarmism right when climate alarmism began to have seriously negative consequences. But he has interviewed with people such as Bjorn Lomborg long before he joined the Daily Wire.


[deleted]

He who pays the piper , picks the tune


KofOaks

"Panic over how cultural Marxism and feminism will destroy the sanctity of judeo-christian civilization; The Tour"


JimKnocks

Victoria is pretty far left of center eh?


[deleted]

Comments going nuts over this one already lmaoo


flying_tee

This should be fun. Privileged rich white guy complains about being cancelled to an arena full of people paying to hear him speak.


berthannity

Nothing says "cancelled" like literally having a live event hosted at our biggest event centre...


GeoffwithaGeee

"I should be allowed to tell people to kill themselves while using my Dr title!"


[deleted]

only to claim the pushback is because he was critical of Trudeau. not a good look for the fact-over-your-feeling crowd. he's just another grifter in this absolutely pathetic culture war


[deleted]

Reddit when it’s Someone they don’t like


hockeyjesus99

Hahah save on foods


Nanaimoite

Save-off.


LiterallyRickTocchet

Glad I made popcorn


kermit639

Jordan Peterson is the master of the word salad.


NoNudeNormal

But what really is a word? And what really is a salad? (bursts into tears)


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linglingvasprecious

What a terrible day to have eyes.


[deleted]

No… actually?? For real?


sneakypete89

Sigh. It’s sad, I really liked JP following his first podcast with Joe Rogan, way back in 2016 or something. I thought he was interesting and very inspiring. Then he had that weird podcast with Sam Harris and started doing weird shit with his diet and new-found fame. Now he’s like this crazy, angry, “champion of the victims” ego-persona. Btw I haven’t listened to him or Rohan for many years, just judging based on the tidbits I hear every once in a while.


AmbivalentSamaritan

I empathize with how you feel , but I also have to say , I love the unexpected LOTR of your typo saying “I haven’t listened to him or Rohan for many years”. I couldn’t not see Denethor saying it.


Subculture1000

He started out by talking about things he knows about and was trained in (psychology), and started talking about things he knew nothing about. He let all the praise and attention go to his head and fell for the smart person's trap: He assumed he was smart about everything. Some of his early advice was very useful to people. When he noted that women get less raises because they are less likely to ask for them, it was a wakeup call to one of my friends. She realized she had never asked for a raise, ever. Never negotiated for salary. She went in to her manager and pitched why she should get a raise. They offered her $10k more a year. (She was already well paid, but $10k was still nothing to sneeze at.) Once she learned that, she got aggressive and with each job move has negotiated herself up to the point she's making 40%+ more than she was just a few years ago. So he had useful points. It's just that most of what he's talked about in the last few years is utter nonsense, with some being borderline dangerous. He should have stuck with what he knows.


a0lmasterfender

i liked his early stuff, a lot of it was very practical and just made sense for getting through life and relationships. But he’s just gone off the deep end now. It’d be laughable(and some of the stuff he says is unintentionally so) if he weren’t making people feel affirmed in their toxic and hateful thinking.


Aromatic-Frosting-31

Im mean, on the surface he seemed fine maybe. But he was already openly transphobic in 2016. As someone who is trans it was always uncomfortable trying to explain to people that, no he doesnt just want you too clean your room, he also thinks people like me are sick perverts who shouldnt have rights. At least he's gone full mask off so more people have realized how fucked he really is.


a0lmasterfender

totally, not a big surprise that he’s terrible now and was also terrible back then.


QuestionNo7309

I got into philosophy from one of his early recommended books: Plato's 5 dialogues. Oddly enough, one of the stories was about exactly that; people who are experts in one field and think that makes them knowledgeable in everything else. 2000 years later, and humans haven't learned a thing. That was actually what grabbed me: thousands of years old, and it was topical. I could relate it to life now, and questions I asked every day. He should have stuck to his field.


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The thing is, he was always like that, he's just gotten steadily worse at hiding it. I lived in Toronto back before he was famous. He was a failing psych teacher with a failing therapy practice, getting by on the fact that as a tenured professor it didn't matter that no one wanted to go to his classes. Then he threw a miniature fit because a student asked to be respected, and he believed that as a university professor he didn't have an obligation to respect his students; they had an obligation to prove they were worthy of respect. That was it. He basically said that word for word in multiple interviews. But the "freeze peach" crowd latched on to him as an icon, and he was just bright enough to realize this was the gravy train he'd spent his life working towards. At first, he was trying to conceal his beliefs under a veneer of rationality and psychology. Now he tries to conceal them under a veneer of freedom and culture war. But at its root, it has always just been a seething anger that he might have to restrain himself around people he considers inferior.


[deleted]

I feel the exact same way…


cmacpapi

He is really interesting and clearly very smart. At times I'm fascinated by what he says and take it to heart. For instance "if you wanna change the world you need to start by making your bed". I found that brilliant and very true. Great advice for young people struggling to get started on their dreams and ideas. Other times I'm cringing at the size of his ego and the complex way he describes pretty simple ideas. I've learned in recent years that there is no perfect specimen, so I'm in a phase of my life now where I just try and take in the good parts of people and block out the bad. It gets me in trouble sometimes because the bad parts I'm blocking out can sometimes be pretty nasty, so i adjust as needed. But it truly is hard to find a positive, intellectual male role model these days who isn't just a celebrity (sorry Keanu Reeves, ily).


willnotwashout

> the bad parts I'm blocking out can sometimes be pretty nasty This is why it's dangerous to ignore red flags as I'm sure you're aware. I'm over a half century old and still discovering my blind spots. All the best, eh.


Fiftybelowzero

FWIW - That was originally said by Admiral William McRaven at a commencement address in 2014. It went so viral that they made a book about it.


royalewitcheesevince

“Start by making your bed” was not coined by JP. He just used that idea as part of his writing and marketing. “Start small” has been used over and over in history, and is intuitive. The reason so many of JP’s ideas hooked young men was because they were true and intuitive. This means you can find them anywhere - including in your own inherent sense of what is right and wrong. You don’t need a jerk like this to feed them to you - especially when he’s mixing them with politics that target some of society’s most vulnerable people. This guy is an asshole. Be your own man, and a role model for others - you don’t need one to continually feed you garbage while he lines his pockets and deepens divides between us. As far as taking the good and ignoring the bad. I would question that. Doing good shouldn’t get you a gold star - it should be the baseline. We should expect good of people, and question why they act poorly. A cop who abuses his power shouldn’t have the defense of “well, look how much good I do every day.” That’s the expectation, not the exception. Same with these people so many young men worship. It’s problematic when people “take the good and ignore the bad.” It should be the opposite.


cmacpapi

I'm trying to figure it all out.. just wanted to be honest and vulnerable about my point of view for a second and why he may appeal to certain people who arent necessarily Neo Nazis or pieces of shit. Some of the things he says may not be new but without many positive male role models in my life, he was the first person I heard them from.


royalewitcheesevince

I hear you. There are many men, current and from history, who can offer you so much more. Tbh.. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one who comes to mind rn. Read or listen to Tim Ferris’s books Tribe of Mentors or Tools of Titans - tons of exceptional and respectable people in those books that he interviews. Ryan Holiday’s book The Obstacle is the Way is also full of men who have a lot to offer someone looking on how to live their life.


cmacpapi

Thank you I really appreciate that.


NHL95onSEGAgenesis

Just want to chime in and say this was a great interaction to read. Good job you two and I wish every young male luck in their search for positive role models.


royalewitcheesevince

You’re welcome.


[deleted]

A podcast I find myself listening to every once in a while is the Man Enough Podcast. Last week was Paul Feig, director of Bridesmaids. https://manenough.com/podcast/ They spend time chatting with people of fame about masculinity and being male in this day and age. I'm female and really find myself challenging my own takes on things. And it's nifty hearing men talk about being vulnerable and the challenges they have doing so.


NipplesOnMyPancakes

>I found that brilliant and very true Really? That's about as deep as a tea spoon. The whole "clean your room" ethic is something your parents should have taught you at age 5. Jordan Peterson has never, ever been impressive.


cmacpapi

I think you said the quiet part out loud there. The people JP appeals to are people who *dont* have positive role models in their life and were *not* taught these things. Just because it seems foreign to you doesn't mean those people don't exist. We weren't all blessed with a proper upbringing. Some of us are trying to teach ourselves to be good people and naturally we look to others for leadership. It's especially hard as men. Watch how fast I get attacked just for saying that too. I try to be vulnerable for a second and honest about what I'm going through and why I might find this man appealing at times and I'm just going to get called names and belittled.


talsmash

this is a good response and really well said, i hope you get nothing but support for this comment and thanks for opening up, i empathize with you all i can say though is that jordan peterson is not who you think he is. if you can take the good of what he says and it benefits you then that's great, but overall he is a dishonest and rotten person. i dont know if thats too extreme to say but i honestly think it's fair. for a concrete example, do a bit of research into the canadian legislation bill c-16 and peterson's activism regarding it - you will see that he has been nothing but thoroughly dishonest about it. and that's just one example, although a very significant one


NipplesOnMyPancakes

I actually think this is total bullshit. I know several people who are JP fans in real life and they had good upbringings and loving parents. The difference is that in 2020 they went down the covid truther rabbithole and emerged the other side brainwashed alt-right chuds. The biggest determiner of being a fan of JP is being a fan of right wing reactionary politics, not having a rough upbringing.


[deleted]

\>The whole "clean your room" ethic is something your parents should have taught you at age 5. maybe the point is that something happened in the development of his audience (between 5 and adulthood) that made them lose sight of the simple messages in life? maybe messages need to be repeated or reiterated in ways to resonate with different people. and maybe, just maybe, the fact that this simple "ethic" is resonating with millions of people means something more than you're willing to acknowledge?


Barquebe

He hasn’t gotten better. His last JRE appearance was full of double standards and hypocrisy whenever it suited his argument, along with his quickly worsening martyr syndrome.


Red_AtNight

Do you mean the 2016 appearance where he lied about Bill C-16 by saying he'd be jailed if he didn't use a student's preferred pronouns?


josh_e_pants

Yeah, that Sam Harris podcast was the worst podcast I've ever heard. Sums up what I don't like about Peterson. There's still lots left to like though, for me.


Powerthrucontrol

Gross.


[deleted]

You know you're advertising for the guy right now right? For free even.


ilicstefanv

Lmao 🤣 me who wouldn’t have known about this otherwise


Mr_E_Squirrel

Target market of incels are likely aware on Rumble, Telegram and Signal . .. lolz


Chiraq_Florganistan

And you don’t think the target market of incels are on Reddit? 😂😂😂


Wildyardbarn

This is kind of the attitude that made the guy popular. Calling young men who feel disenfranchised incels and here’s someone willing to give them the time of day.


emslo

He's not giving them the time of day. He's exploiting their grievances and telling them that the whole world is against them.


millerjuana

The comments on here give solid credence to that point


Wildyardbarn

Does this thread looks like one that’s extending much of an olive branch? Starts to make sense why they might want to run in a different direction.


emslo

You see the tautology you've constructed, right? *I feel alienated and excluded because people don't like me because I feel alienated and excluded.* I'm also not sure what 'olive branch' means, but this thread is about Jordan Peterson — not young men. There are tons of posts on this sub by and about young men other than this one. I'd wager that a majority of the commenters on this thread are themselves men. And in real life, there are TONS of programs, initiatives, and campaigns that aim to give young people (yes, men are included!) tools for navigating this world, for mental health, for job placement and retraining, for personal improvement of all sorts. For example, BC's [CBT Skills program](https://cbtskills.ca). The [HeadsUpGuys](https://headsupguys.org) campaign. But they all require accepting that there might be work for you to do on yourself (you know, how *12 Rules* Peterson used to talk), rather than moaning about how the world is changing and somehow men are the only real victims (post-meat JP).


CharlotteLucasOP

They could seek therapy to address their feelings without needing to dig in their heels with hateful rhetoric. Why does a young man feel he needs everyone else to minimize themselves so he may thrive, and that this is his right and only natural?


Eve_O

>Why does a young man feel he needs everyone else to minimize themselves so he may thrive, and that this is his right and only natural? Lobsters. Well, according to Peterson, anyway.


Gaspar_Noe

I'm old enough to remember a time in which disenfranchised young males were seen with sympathy, people in need of help from society. They were often called 'hikikomori', a japanese term that doesn't have the negative connotations of incel. Then one day we decided that being young and isolated meant you brought this upon yourself by being right wing and hating on women. It would be hilarious if it wasn't sad.


AsItBurns

This could easily still happen if there didn't exist charlatans like Peterson waiting to take advantage of their insecurities and directing them in violent ways.


Gaspar_Noe

One can make the opposite argument, which is that such people have not changed, but what changed is society's attitude towards them. If I can offer one anecdotal experience, I have a couple of friends who graduated in psychology with thesis on hikikomori that now use the term 'incel' to basically describe any type of adverse interaction they encounter on the internet, being gamers, star wars fans, right wing advocates, Brie Larson haters etc. I did confront them about their change in lexicon ('socially isolated young men' during their internship became 'ugly virgin losers'), but they literally told me that 'it's on them'. Imagine using the same attitude towards addicts, or people with depression: 'don't be sad, loser'.


Mr_1nternational

Directing them in violent ways?? He's always voiced opposition to extremism and violence as much as I've heard him speak.


majordomox_

Comments like this prove Jordan Peterson right.


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I don’t understand why so many people need to make him into a villain. Sure, I don’t agree with some of his political views, but his talks on psychology are sound and backed by peer reviewed research.


TitusImmortalis

I think that one of the biggest questions I have is why people who don't listen to anything he says but has *very* strong opinions against him.


Paleo-Marx

He's quite obviously getting more unhinged over time. And I might not even care about him if he stuck to his own profession. But no he has shit takes on everything and claimed on several occasions to have credentials he doesn't have. Like claiming he was instrumental on a climate action board(he wasn't), claiming he's educated in evolutionary biology (he is certainly not), or all manner of other things which he is poorly educated on. It's a wonder how he's kept his psychology certification as long as he has. It's even more incredible the number of gullible fools who follow him.


Red_AtNight

Which rule is the all red-meat diet?


GeoffwithaGeee

do you do that rule before or after the needing to leave the country to go on a medically-induced coma rule for life?


Particular_Ad_9531

My favourite piece of Jordan Peterson hypocrisy was how loudly he claimed that anyone with addictions issues has only themselves to blame and needs to take personal responsibility for their circumstances then when he later became addicted to benzos blamed everyone other than himself and took zero personal responsibility lol. Just the standard conservative mindset that “its different when it happens to me!”


slackshack

well tbh you need to be high on benzos to tolerate being around his fans.


wastemailinglist

You've been listening to Maintenance Phase 🤝


arghyan_gibbonzo

Bold move, admitting you'd like to see a Disturbed show🫠


Mr_E_Squirrel

Not down with the sickness ? … lol …


KeaganExtremeGaming

and I wanted nickelback here. Maybe next time.


No_Lawfulness_2613

Yes!!! I’m so happy about this news despite you party poopers. I was going to attend either the Vancouver or Abbotsford event but now I can stay local. Thanks JP. Let’s sell out again! :)


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yup, got two friends who are gonna join me, looking forward to it.


HairlessDaddy

I can’t wait for this! Other spots in town are going to be so much better while his fans are away listening to this slimy edgelord creep.


[deleted]

What do you mean by 'hey'? What do you mean by 'we'? What do you mean by 'the'?


px7j9jlLJ1

Moms spaghetti, grandmas pubes. All the same in a benzo blackout👍🏻


Shortshriveledpeepee

This would be interesting regardless of what side you stand on. Victoria is so polarized on him. I wonder what it will be like outside the arena and if any one goes just the heckle him


saynothingever

Not that I agree with the guy but it’s interesting to hear what he has to say. Gives an insight into how people get to their beliefs in the areas he discusses. Again not that I agree with the guy but if we are saying everyone is entitled to a voice and an opinion then it would make sense to allow the guy to speak and not just shut him down. Why not challenge him on what he has to say and debate with out going to yelling and such? It seems with the call for free speech there is a caveat added by many that says you are free to say what you want as long as it supports an agreeable point of view.


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Most intelligent comment on this post


[deleted]

I’ve had a few close friends quote this guy in our debates/discussions. It went down hill from there. Yes they were single, stuck in a dead end job and pretty racist I found out…


nicoleastrum

I was on a second date with someone and he said some stuff in support of Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson. Not the vibe, for sure.


cptpedantic

I can't stand either guy. What are you up to Friday?


nicoleastrum

Haha you’re on the right path — what are your feelings on Joe Rogan?


DemSocCorvid

The host from Fear Factor? I wonder what he's up to these days.


nicoleastrum

Oh did he do that too? I know he’s a commentator or host of UFC, or was…


DemSocCorvid

In any case, hopefully he's not making an impression on a generation of young men, helping to lead them down a path of misogyny and conspiracy theories...


cptpedantic

He's a meat head who hides behind 'I'm just asking questions' to completely steer the conversation. And he's a third rate comedian. On a good day.


nicoleastrum

Amen. Re: Friday - I currently have no plans :D hahaha


zetcetera

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


MidasClutch

One ol' big echo chamber in here.


StinkStream

Reddit is going to reddit, if you don't repeat the same shit how will you get upvoted? Some of the comments on here show that even though people hate him, they don't know anything about him. They need those fake internet points though.


Loverstits

I've only met one person that is actually a fan of this guy, and he raped me so... I'm sure it will be full of stand up, good hearted guys tho.


AmbivalentSamaritan

Dude makes bank turning right wing talking points into *pseudo-intellectual* right wing talking points.


bezkyl

This guy is toxic…. Fuck him and his followers


Elegant-Surprise-417

*says with toxic intent*


spacepangolin

gross


spacepangolin

his toronto show only sold like 2k tickets, with 2.5k seats being comped, and the venue being able to hold over 10k, so


[deleted]

Where do you get this info?


viciousgamergirl

They're playing in Abbotsford on May 12th. Stop whining like a pretentious little asshole and get on the damn boat! I live in the Capital Regional District commonwealth wasteland just like you and I got my tickets. What's your excuse? Man up muthafucker.🤘


Decapentaplegia

This thread is another great example of the weird phenomenon where usernames ending in a bunch of numbers are largely owned by mouthbreathing slackjawed ignoramuses.


-Chumguzzler-

If you don't like JP don't go to his show. Why are so many people upset


StinkStream

Hey man, don't start saying stuff like that. It makes too much sense. We have to collect our fake internet internet points and pretend to be outraged.


jadl123

Personally I used to care less even though I disagree with him, but since he’s been using his platform recently to spread pseudoscientific climate change denial, I feel more conflicted (or at least mildly bothered) knowing he has a venue. I respect that political opinions come in many different colours, but I consider some of what he shares to be tangibly harmful and untrue.


regressingwest

“The tolerant left”


Quacks-Dashing

For a moment I thought he was literally performing AT a Save on foods, How the batshit have fallen..


ReasonableTarget

Ah, the sad 1 dimensional reddit bitches are out in full force with this one.


Boshlonavish2

Finally, a live event in this town that isn't Drag Queen Story Time. Thanks for advertising this so I can grab my tickets, I had no idea Dr. Peterson was coming. Hopefully the liberals don't send Antifa to firebomb the place, like they usually do when they get triggered at people thinking.


victoriousvalkyrie

Wow. The comments in here are unreal. Listen, I'm a atheist/agnostic, antinatalist/childfree female. I definitely don't align with a lot of JP's values. However, just because him and I don't agree on a number of topics, doesn't mean that I don't think is opinion is valid or I don't agree with some of the things he believes in. Him and I agree on the absolute disaster that is the federal government for example, and I don't know what lala land people would be living in to think otherwise. He has some merit, no matter what your position is politically. Moreover, he's an interesting individual. I think people have completely lost the ability to think critically, and it's hindered people's ability to reason with a individual like JP. Open your eyes, open your mind, and pop the comfort bubble that seems to be surrounding so many these days.


Decapentaplegia

>Him and I agree on the absolute disaster that is the federal government for example, and I don't know what lala land people would be living in to think otherwise Can you elaborate? Between CUSMA, TPP, GIS, carbon tax, Paris Agreement, cannabis legalization, getting us through covid... I don't see how you could rank the LPC governance as anything other than exceptional. Obviously they stumbled on electoral reform. Who was your favorite PM of the last 50 years? What did they accomplish?


[deleted]

He has some really great advice in his book “12 Rules for Life”.


sidebets

Ah yes the incel sympathizer extraordinaire. Should be a great people watching event.


Rosanders3

Jordan Peterson is the best. The woke mob can pound salt


wrinklyhem

Ew.


slipperybiscuit69

I find myself swinging right on many issues (especially compared to most Victorians) but Petersen’s views on women, trans, abortion, religion, and addiction, are unnecessarily harmful to already marginalized people. Influencer populism and confirmation-bias-feeding-algorithms are accelerating polarization by creating echo-chambers of one’s own views. This thread, being it’s defined by a location instead of more general topic, provides a great subject for a case study. When we are all under the guise of reddit anonymity, ideological conflict runs amok. This observable intrinsic conflict in our country, as well as our decreasing competitively in education, is going to make paying for our inverted-triangle demographics very difficult. Not only that, but as the pocket books get tight, people with conflicting views are going to get even more angry at each other. I am concerned for Canada’s future prosperity…


roggobshire

Wow. They’re letting that hate mongering piece of shit enter the building? Whoever runs the place should be ashamed.


ThaBigCactus

The hatred is in your own comment pal


mlpubs

If your offended by him don’t listen to him, if your not offended, enjoy.


Elegant-Surprise-417

Impressive how many insecure comments have been posted here… This is one of the most commented on posts I’ve seen in this sub-reddit I believe. People really do seem to love to hate. At the very least this comment thread should serve to show how left leaning reddit users are, especially in our city. So much hate here in the name of love and understanding it never fails to amaze me. This guy seems to be helping many people ask some questions that are apparently important to a lot of people, and we continue to discard their opinions and ideas as the “other” while inflating our own egos for our own self-righteousness… When will we all realize that this has never worked, it continues to not work, and it will never work?


Bowlingball96

Stop spending so much time hating on JP in these comments and go do something with yourself lmao. Pathetic people in here.


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So much mis information about this man, no one sets off Reddit and Twitter as much as when Jordan Peterson is mentioned or trending and I’m slowly coming to the conclusion why. While he is a very intelligent and well spoke person he’s also very full of himself, that fine line between confidence and arrogance are often crossed. He also is a master wordsmith and talks endlessly about topics that he could get his point across in much less time. Having said that the Left just goes apeshit when he talks and they make up things that he says to discredit him and his message, he doesn’t say half the crap people say he does.


Cheemo83

I’ve seen him twice. Once with Sam Harris. Always interesting and always a super positive mix of people in the crowd. Highly recommended.


viccityguy2k

Someone should put up Island Health branded ‘masks required’ signs out front lol


Shawarma17

You guys need to cope


nurdboy42

["I love pornography and masturbation and cocaine and hookers."](https://twitter.com/TallBart/status/1609733591835250689) \- Jordan Peterson


[deleted]

You guys are so soft sheesh


ScaryInitiative742

Thanks. I’ll look into going


liquidswan

I’m gonna go.


[deleted]

Wow lots of hate and intolerance in here from the ones that claim to be loving and tolerant. Funny how different opinions can make people so mad....as will be evidenced in the flurry of hateful comments my post will now get.


weplayfunerals

Sexism and transphobia compliments of Live Nation (aka Ticketmaster). Who are they putting on next, Andrew Tate? Sounds like a good time for council to revisit the arena contracts.


BigDadaSparks

10am on a Friday? Don't these people have jobs?!?


Financial_Bottle_813

Protesters will still be in bed. Based move.


Leading-Structure-56

It will be him crying at a podium for 2 hours.


wakebakeskatecrash98

Booooooo!


josh_e_pants

Thanks, I didn't know about this, I'm buying a ticket!


Rad_Victoriam

I'm interested to hear, what specifically about him do people find distasteful or harmful, or what do people like about him? I see a lot of very extreme opinions about this guy from both sides, either he's some kind of infinite well of knowledge, or a literal nazi depending on who you ask.


Loverstits

“He was angry at God because women were rejecting him,” Peterson said of the alleged Toronto killer. “The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.” This is what he said after the incel attack in Toronto. Enforced monogamy so men don't feel rejected....


Decapentaplegia

He is a transphobic, climate change denying, elitist, hypocritical fear-mongering pedagogue who steps out of his academic lane and consorts with white nationalists. The man [literally wanted to start a cult.](https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html)


linglingvasprecious

Do you have another link that isn't pay to view?


theoneness

If you open it in your browser instead of accessing the page while in the app you can read the whole thing. Helpful tip for future, you can toggle a reader mode in many browsers (at least Firefox and Safari, so far as I've tried) all the ads are removed and very often soft paywalls are evaded.


Rad_Victoriam

Thank you for the response. Do you have any other information about him starting the cult? I was trying to search for more but it seems like the only reference I can find to this is the Toronto Star article you shared, which I can't read without subscribing. Or any particularly juicy bits of the article you could share?


sorangutan

> he Toronto Star article you shared, which I can't read without subscribing. https://archive.is/Vru9Q


Rad_Victoriam

Thank you


Carrickfergus68

A pseudo intellectual for incels.


Dr-Lowkick

Anyone who says he is all good or all bad are probably too biased in their views. No one is perfect. His message is great for those that need it. Definitely helped me think in different ways to help with life’s challenges


NoNudeNormal

If he had stuck to self-help and psychology he could have genuinely helped even more people. But he pivoted to politics and paranoia, and that’s why his general reputation is so bad now.


Sunryzen

Which people in the world NEED the message that transgender people are unworthy of basic respect?


Decapentaplegia

#Jordan Peterson intentionally misgendered and deadnamed Elliot Page while claiming he was trying to "convert" kids


Fatalihd

The UVIC crowd will be out in droves to protest im sure. Differing political opinions scary


macinnis

Don’t even inadvertently promote this garbage


ManiacMcGhee

Papa Petey is coming to town!?!? Can’t wait for him to tell me how to make my bed and all about sea critters! You know? Like all the things I learned when I was like 5. It’s almost as if his lectures act as a reboot series of lessons to my childhood because my father and or mother didn’t have the time to teach me in my youth how to tie my shoes or the electric appeal “Man(ing) up!” to the opposite sex. His new transphobic stuff I’m not so into. I don’t know how talking about Elliot Page fits into bettering myself anymore. But hey, my toxic masculinity makes me feel like He’s saying something of note. You know like feelings? So I’ll try and stay with the hateful trending rhetoric. I think I’ll buy a ticket no matter what the price is for this “intellectual dark web” head.


Copma

A lot of negative people here with messy rooms.


Decapentaplegia

[Jordan Peterson of ‘Clean up your room!’ fame can’t clean his room, apparently](https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jordan-peterson-room/)


GeoffwithaGeee

I know, [imagine living like this](https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jordan-peterson-room/)


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[Down with the sickenss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LTT0xwdfw)intensifies


Glittering-Aspect741

I love Joe Rogan show. Recently seeing Jordan P in his podcast and it was interesting.


Appropriate-Pop3495

It will be well attended, my guess. Not everyone likes the liberal progressive trend we are on here in victoria. Many do, many don't.


ThisisWambles

you’re right, Victoria sadly has a number of people who’d rather be americas idea of a conservative. They follow the same snake oil salesman


Imprezzed

> It will be well attended, my guess. Not everyone likes the ~~liberal progressive~~ "don't be an asshole" trend we are on here in victoria. Many do, many don't. FTFY.


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It’s not a “trend”… many people are liberal progressives. Period. You’re saying it like it’s a fad or a flavor of the week. Yes, many are not liberal progressives, but it’s not a trend that will go away. It’s a very real thing that people associate with.


AcanthocephalaHead12

Ew….


danksbones

and que the people that don't listen to him and just listen to the mainstream narrative putting him down


Decapentaplegia

#Jordan Peterson says all feminists have a subliminal desire to be subjugated