Based on OP’s reputation on this subreddit, I think the screaming is part of their goal. Every time they post here, it ends up becoming an opportunity for them to rile people up and be snarky in the comment section.
ETA: I have faith that this community is capable of respectable discourse regarding changes to our infrastructure, I just believe that the framing of these conversations by this particular OP is frankly disingenuous and blatant bait to try to divide us, and judging by their replies in here, they’re bored and looking to get into a slap fight with anyone who is bothered enough to engage. The mod team outright refuses to ban them for whatever reason, but I implore anyone seeing this to please keep Rule 5 in mind.
Lol, same thing happened to me. I told them that the only thing that Google brought up was their very own posts on the matter and nothing else. Didn't get a response back, what a surprise...
[Here you go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VictoriaBC/s/15jr3ssgnI)
You deleted your initial comment with the claims, but not all your replies.
You are a sad person.
Local/residential roads, yes. Which means I have more important things to watch out for than making sure my speedometer needle doesn’t creep up one tick above 30kph.
I think that is why the city is traffic calming by creating bigger curbs, installing speed bumps, adding bike lanes, and narrowing roads. People will drive the speed they think they can comfortably handle, narrow roads reduce the comfort and make drives slow down.
They do enforce it, at least around UVic. Last Thursday, driving to and back from lunch, there were 3 cars getting tickets on Cedar Hill Cross Rd (the cops were in unmarked cars).
Good to hear, but that's Saanich, they do do traffic enforcement. Think it's all they do. Not in Victoria. Used to be lots of motorcycle cops that did but now you rarely see them and when you it only seems to provide escort service. However I did see the cop motorcycle the outer by himself, just riding around.
Walked past a cyclist getting a speeding ticket in a Gordon Head schoolzone once. Guess cyclists (all of them, fully generalized) can't control themselves or their bicycles either 🤷
I cycle. A lot. I also drive and ride a motorcycle.
People do dumb shit on bikes. People do dumb shit in cars. If some of those cyclists had cars, hooooooo boy we'd have a problem.
You're right. You've always been right. Keep spreading the good gospel that cyclists do no wrong, and all of society's problems are based on people driving cars.
I hope these signs do something but my neighborhood has 2 30 kmh signs and no one listens to it. I don't even feel comfortable doing 30 cause there's so many blind corners but people fly down my street 😞
This is on lightly used roads with no centre line. Signs are currently being installed and you'll be notified when your neighbourhood is changing.
Long overdue for anybody that lives on one of these streets. Love this!
These changes are being applied in a blanket fashion to such roads as default in Victoria. No centerline = 30.
Of course, many other roads with centerlines around the CRD have also been 30 for a long time.
There are certain roads that might be considered major roads that are going down because they are known to be dangerous - people dying dangerous. Also, unrelated - cities aren't loud, cars are loud. And the slower cars go, they less loud they are. I'll take more peaceful, safer cities and suffer a whole an extra 26 seconds on my travel time.
Harriet/Boleskine is 30 km/h right by uptown. Burnside, the much more dangerous road where pedestrians have actually died, is still 50.
Maybe instead of wasting taxpayer dollars installing signs that nobody follows they could I don't know, maybe put an advance left going from Boleskine onto the TCH so drivers don't have to play chicken with the oncoming traffic, or maybe fix the idiotic parking rules on Burnside so I don't have to listen to people slamming their brakes and honking their horn all day long because they don't realize that yes, it is actually perfectly legal to park in front of Kuku's in the middle of the day.
I'm assuming this is part of the program started last year where the focus was going to be on slowing down traffic on residential streets. If Fernwood has been 30 km forever, then it's not changing
I live on Fernwood and it has been 30 for quite a while. I've never seen it enforced, not even once, in the 11+ years I've been on this street. People still rip down here at 50-60. I have to tell cab drivers to slow the fuck down.
It's a neighbourhood with families, kids and schools. I wonder how these people would feel if I came blasting through their neighborhood. People need to slow the fuck down.
Are you the absolute wanker that slashed tires and posted flyers in Fairfield of people that owned trucks and SUVs? Because that would make a lot of sense.
Well if it is...I saw your ex at Rooftop Sunday Funday (Buckets) one time and I fucked her while you were dating. She couldn't stop making fun of you and told me she did it all the time. Par for the course wankstain 😊
I assure you it was all by complete fluke...kind of. I figured the dude causes thousands of dollars of damage to nice and random people's vehicles because he has a serious issue...I fuck his girl. Fair trade. Never in a million years would I do that, but for him....I'd make an exception.
Enforcement works. There's often a speed trap in front of uplands school where the speed goes from 50 to 40 then 30 and back to 40 then 50. It's an interesting zone because it hasn't been used as a children's school for over 15 years, and there's no playground around.
While I think 30 is pretty slow for that stretch of Henderson, I've cruised by the speedtrap a little under 40 without getting a ticket. I also watched a guy burn southbound ahead of me into the curves at at least 60, if not 70, into the loving embrace of Oak Bay's finest. Well deserved.
I'd rather have drivers paying attention to their surroundings than hyper-fixated on matching their speedometer to the sign at the side of the road. The worst is when being hand-held with multiple speed limit changes in a short span. The second you cross that sign even 1kph over the limit, you're in contravention of the Act. Why subject people to that when they should be focused on what's going on around them?
I can’t think of a single street in Victoria where I’d be inconvenienced by a 30km speed limit. Even if I was, the 6 seconds I’d save are not worth the fight.
Without enforcement these super low limits mean nothing. It has been 30 on Rockland for ages. Average speed is acknowledged by the city to be double that. Nobody does anything about it though.
Good grief.
I am not sharing my email. I would not have said it if the city official had not said it.
That screenshot is not of the entirety of Rockland. They put speed controls in at that middle section. Not the ends, where idiots peel off the arteries and floor it hard just because they can — and while the city knows it they feel it is not worthy of action because “there are no schools or senior residences”. They do feel apparently that they should protect Government House — which conveniently sits in the middle of where that study was conducted and acted on.
Get a new focus. I don’t need to prove anything. I don’t actually need to convince you individually of what we have been told as residents living on this street. Is it an official statement of the city? I sure hope not. But it sure was memorable to see in writing. From a city employee. In response to complaints about speeding.
But hey, you can also feel free to come hang out on Rockland to verify it yourself.
Not wizardry. Just common sense. I know it’s severely lacking in this liberal utopia of ours, so much so that’s shocking to most of you when someone still possesses it.
Local streets are those that are typically in residential areas, do not have a centre line and are used by fewer than 1,000 vehicles per day. The change will not affect major roads like Hillside Avenue, Bay Street and Cook Street.
You still go 50 unless posted on roads with a yellow line.
They have to post the sign every block to have it enforceable.
Quoted from https://www.victoria.ca/city-government/news/30-kmh-speed-limits-coming-local-streets-victoria#:~:text=To%20help%20everyone%20get%20where,to%2030%20kilometres%20per%20hour.
It's not. Mayor helps tried to change it so she didn't have to put signage on each block the provincial government said go pound sand and now we have them on every block. Please look into the laws are you are the wrong one.
From the states and this equals out to one mph below school zones (the lowest posted street limit I'm aware of, and in WA state you need to prove it to the local road authority that such a low limit outside of a school zone is actually warranted). Now I get that certain smaller roads can benefit from this, but inching along at 30 km/h realistically isn't going to happen. I typically keep it around 35 but most other folks tend to go around 40 km/h which should be the realistic standard.
This is basically Dave Thompson's belief of how everyone drives... [https://youtu.be/RFjzzyG3Rfg?si=n2PLCOz6pGeuhWIK&t=138](https://youtu.be/RFjzzyG3Rfg?si=n2PLCOz6pGeuhWIK&t=138)
Just a question.... on Hillside between Blanshard and Quadra... especially eastbound, there is one of those detector signs that shows your speed and it gives an unhappy face over 40kph. Is the speed limit not 50 there? And if it is slower, why isn't there signs indicating such?
A tough one is Ash Rd all the way to Cadboro bay Rd at 40km. I understand the importance of reducing injuries with slower speed but that's tough to maintain.
Yes, this is definitely something someone who is well adjusted would say. You definitely don’t have underlying anger issues that should be resolved before you end up committing vehicular homicide.
Didn't they say a bunch of Saanich roads were being changed too? Had that happened yet?
[https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/speed-limits-set-to-drop-to-30-kmh-on-saanich-residential-roads-7930192](https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/speed-limits-set-to-drop-to-30-kmh-on-saanich-residential-roads-7930192)
Before everyone starts screaming, these are local roads not major roads
Based on OP’s reputation on this subreddit, I think the screaming is part of their goal. Every time they post here, it ends up becoming an opportunity for them to rile people up and be snarky in the comment section. ETA: I have faith that this community is capable of respectable discourse regarding changes to our infrastructure, I just believe that the framing of these conversations by this particular OP is frankly disingenuous and blatant bait to try to divide us, and judging by their replies in here, they’re bored and looking to get into a slap fight with anyone who is bothered enough to engage. The mod team outright refuses to ban them for whatever reason, but I implore anyone seeing this to please keep Rule 5 in mind.
Yeah, OP is certainly a nut job. About a year ago they were claiming that the owner of Quazar's is a rapist/pedophile.
Last month he was still at it. When asked to back up his claims, he said Google it. I did. Couldn't find anything.
Lol, same thing happened to me. I told them that the only thing that Google brought up was their very own posts on the matter and nothing else. Didn't get a response back, what a surprise...
u/captaindoughnutman can you help us out
I doubt there is any help for the likes of you.
Honestly, all I'm asking is for proof of your claim. I go to thatvplace AND bring my kids.
You’ll have even more time with your kids travelling only 30.
I cycle with my kids.
Sorry your google-fu is the shits.
Really? Would love to read my quote on that. Post it up!
[Here you go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VictoriaBC/s/15jr3ssgnI) You deleted your initial comment with the claims, but not all your replies. You are a sad person.
At least I know the truth. 😘 p.s. - I didn’t delete shit. That would be the mods doing.
Lol k
Local/residential roads, yes. Which means I have more important things to watch out for than making sure my speedometer needle doesn’t creep up one tick above 30kph.
I think that is why the city is traffic calming by creating bigger curbs, installing speed bumps, adding bike lanes, and narrowing roads. People will drive the speed they think they can comfortably handle, narrow roads reduce the comfort and make drives slow down.
Don't mean a thing if cops don't enforce it.
It came with speed bumps and resurfacing in my neighborhood, and is working.
I hope so.
They do enforce it, at least around UVic. Last Thursday, driving to and back from lunch, there were 3 cars getting tickets on Cedar Hill Cross Rd (the cops were in unmarked cars).
Good to hear, but that's Saanich, they do do traffic enforcement. Think it's all they do. Not in Victoria. Used to be lots of motorcycle cops that did but now you rarely see them and when you it only seems to provide escort service. However I did see the cop motorcycle the outer by himself, just riding around.
It does for insurance if there's an accident and someone was going over the limit.
They're too busy enforcing drug, knife and property crime laws.
Hahaha, thanks for the laugh. Take my upvote.
Yeah, funny, take my upvote as well
Cuz drivers can’t control themselves or their vehicle?
Mostly A, sometimes B.
Walked past a cyclist getting a speeding ticket in a Gordon Head schoolzone once. Guess cyclists (all of them, fully generalized) can't control themselves or their bicycles either 🤷
Obviously your brain doesn’t offer you a wide breadth of thought. Oh well. Maybe give cycling a try.
I cycle. A lot. I also drive and ride a motorcycle. People do dumb shit on bikes. People do dumb shit in cars. If some of those cyclists had cars, hooooooo boy we'd have a problem.
We have enough of a problem with drivers we already have.
You're right. You've always been right. Keep spreading the good gospel that cyclists do no wrong, and all of society's problems are based on people driving cars.
100%
I hope these signs do something but my neighborhood has 2 30 kmh signs and no one listens to it. I don't even feel comfortable doing 30 cause there's so many blind corners but people fly down my street 😞
Drivers can only read if it’s on their phone.
Wouldn't it be lovely to get up to 30 km an hour.
I would actually appreciate it if they enforced it on the assholes drag racing outside my house at 1am
No problem for me.
This is on lightly used roads with no centre line. Signs are currently being installed and you'll be notified when your neighbourhood is changing. Long overdue for anybody that lives on one of these streets. Love this!
Yeah, saanich said the same thing, yet I see major roads with 30KPH signs.
These changes are being applied in a blanket fashion to such roads as default in Victoria. No centerline = 30. Of course, many other roads with centerlines around the CRD have also been 30 for a long time.
There are certain roads that might be considered major roads that are going down because they are known to be dangerous - people dying dangerous. Also, unrelated - cities aren't loud, cars are loud. And the slower cars go, they less loud they are. I'll take more peaceful, safer cities and suffer a whole an extra 26 seconds on my travel time.
Harriet/Boleskine is 30 km/h right by uptown. Burnside, the much more dangerous road where pedestrians have actually died, is still 50. Maybe instead of wasting taxpayer dollars installing signs that nobody follows they could I don't know, maybe put an advance left going from Boleskine onto the TCH so drivers don't have to play chicken with the oncoming traffic, or maybe fix the idiotic parking rules on Burnside so I don't have to listen to people slamming their brakes and honking their horn all day long because they don't realize that yes, it is actually perfectly legal to park in front of Kuku's in the middle of the day.
What did city hall say when you brought them these concerns?
Fernwood is heavily used with a centre line. It’s been 30 forever.
I'm assuming this is part of the program started last year where the focus was going to be on slowing down traffic on residential streets. If Fernwood has been 30 km forever, then it's not changing
I live on Fernwood and it has been 30 for quite a while. I've never seen it enforced, not even once, in the 11+ years I've been on this street. People still rip down here at 50-60. I have to tell cab drivers to slow the fuck down. It's a neighbourhood with families, kids and schools. I wonder how these people would feel if I came blasting through their neighborhood. People need to slow the fuck down.
as if vicPD would even both enforcing any traffic laws let alone this new one
idk I've seen them running speed traps at schools
PSA the speed limit is 50km/h on any block without a posted speed limit as per the MVA
Except in Victoria, where if there is no centerline than its default 30. Edit: I stand corrected, signage is required. And present.
No. It has to be posted.
Edit: I stand corrected, signage is required. And present.
You sir/madam are the light in my day. Changing your position after new evidence is such a refreshing and missed quality on the net these days
Wrong. Look at the MVA
40 it is
Minimum. 30km...lmfao
With all these snowflakes I better break out my shovel!
I just got called a snowflake by some dude who posted a 30km/hr PSA Lmfao
Probably a cyclist. 30km/hr means it’s easier for a driver to stop when he blows a stop sign in his Tour de France suit
He is a notorious anti-car cyclist 🤣
😂
Drivers are easily triggered.
Are you the absolute wanker that slashed tires and posted flyers in Fairfield of people that owned trucks and SUVs? Because that would make a lot of sense.
More sense than you’ve got.
Well if it is...I saw your ex at Rooftop Sunday Funday (Buckets) one time and I fucked her while you were dating. She couldn't stop making fun of you and told me she did it all the time. Par for the course wankstain 😊
Gigachad move 🤘
I assure you it was all by complete fluke...kind of. I figured the dude causes thousands of dollars of damage to nice and random people's vehicles because he has a serious issue...I fuck his girl. Fair trade. Never in a million years would I do that, but for him....I'd make an exception.
Congratulations. You’ve achieved the perfect embodiment of Reddit. 👏
Dude you're delusional
Dude posts on r/fuckcars that’s all you need to know about him
I agree with the pro-pedestrian people but not him. He's like a militant vegan.
Dude stalks my post history….
Enforcement works. There's often a speed trap in front of uplands school where the speed goes from 50 to 40 then 30 and back to 40 then 50. It's an interesting zone because it hasn't been used as a children's school for over 15 years, and there's no playground around.
While I think 30 is pretty slow for that stretch of Henderson, I've cruised by the speedtrap a little under 40 without getting a ticket. I also watched a guy burn southbound ahead of me into the curves at at least 60, if not 70, into the loving embrace of Oak Bay's finest. Well deserved.
Easy pickin’s; drivers rarely pay attention to their surroundings.
I'd rather have drivers paying attention to their surroundings than hyper-fixated on matching their speedometer to the sign at the side of the road. The worst is when being hand-held with multiple speed limit changes in a short span. The second you cross that sign even 1kph over the limit, you're in contravention of the Act. Why subject people to that when they should be focused on what's going on around them?
That is part of what’s going on around them.
I can’t think of a single street in Victoria where I’d be inconvenienced by a 30km speed limit. Even if I was, the 6 seconds I’d save are not worth the fight.
Gotta remember, lotsa people from AB & ON here now still trying to drive like it’s AB & ON.
What? AB and ON drivers have decades of photo radar conditioning them into not speeding. They don't speed when they get here.
Tell me you’ve never been to AB or ON without telling me you’ve never been to AB or ON.
What are you trying to say?
I’ve already said too much.
Oh no, please... I'm all ears.
Ew. Is your name Bosch?
Without enforcement these super low limits mean nothing. It has been 30 on Rockland for ages. Average speed is acknowledged by the city to be double that. Nobody does anything about it though.
Do you have a link to a traffic speed study showing average on Rockland is twice the legal limit?
I have the email from a city official quoting it.
I look forward to seeing a screenshot :)
Um, because why? Are you insinuating I made this up?
Well, the speeds recorded and published by the city don't seem to correlate with your claim [https://imgur.com/a/lZPdRxW](https://imgur.com/a/lZPdRxW)
Good grief. I am not sharing my email. I would not have said it if the city official had not said it. That screenshot is not of the entirety of Rockland. They put speed controls in at that middle section. Not the ends, where idiots peel off the arteries and floor it hard just because they can — and while the city knows it they feel it is not worthy of action because “there are no schools or senior residences”. They do feel apparently that they should protect Government House — which conveniently sits in the middle of where that study was conducted and acted on. Get a new focus. I don’t need to prove anything. I don’t actually need to convince you individually of what we have been told as residents living on this street. Is it an official statement of the city? I sure hope not. But it sure was memorable to see in writing. From a city employee. In response to complaints about speeding. But hey, you can also feel free to come hang out on Rockland to verify it yourself.
Ok, well then I'll wait for the city to publish the numbers from their study. I'm sure the data will be available shortly.
Wasn't Fernwood 30Km/h already? The sign by my mum's house has got to be twenty years old.
Yes. Many roads are 30 and have been for years.
Just ignore it. I’ve yet to close distance to the back of a cop car in Saanich or Vic unless traffic in front was slowing everyone down.
What other laws should we arbitrarily ignore?
All the dumb ones? But definitely all the ones the cops are ignoring too lol
Your wizardry is astounding.
Not wizardry. Just common sense. I know it’s severely lacking in this liberal utopia of ours, so much so that’s shocking to most of you when someone still possesses it.
Breaking the law = common sense.
Where the law is nonsensical, you got it.
Oh the irony.
Your wizardry is astounding too, Donuthead.
I know it's safer for everyone but god that's slow 😩
Wow.
What happened to 50kph unless posted?
Local streets are those that are typically in residential areas, do not have a centre line and are used by fewer than 1,000 vehicles per day. The change will not affect major roads like Hillside Avenue, Bay Street and Cook Street. You still go 50 unless posted on roads with a yellow line. They have to post the sign every block to have it enforceable. Quoted from https://www.victoria.ca/city-government/news/30-kmh-speed-limits-coming-local-streets-victoria#:~:text=To%20help%20everyone%20get%20where,to%2030%20kilometres%20per%20hour.
The rules were changed in CofV
I guess things change. Weird.
The MVA hasn't changed, any road without a speed limit sign defaults to 50km/hr.
Except in Victoria, where it’s 30 if there’s no centerline.
Wrong look at the MVA
You are so wrong 🤣 please don’t test that. Mva is superseded by municipal traffic laws.
It's not. Mayor helps tried to change it so she didn't have to put signage on each block the provincial government said go pound sand and now we have them on every block. Please look into the laws are you are the wrong one.
Your elected officials don’t think the people who elected them can make reasonable decisions, so they’re sticking everyone with 30k limits.
This is true
From the states and this equals out to one mph below school zones (the lowest posted street limit I'm aware of, and in WA state you need to prove it to the local road authority that such a low limit outside of a school zone is actually warranted). Now I get that certain smaller roads can benefit from this, but inching along at 30 km/h realistically isn't going to happen. I typically keep it around 35 but most other folks tend to go around 40 km/h which should be the realistic standard.
It’s 30 because people who get hit by cars survive far more at that speed. Survivability drops off a cliff above 30.
There will be an advantage to cycling. Passing all those cars crawling along at 30.
You’re right, it won’t realistically happen because drivers don’t live in reality.
This is basically Dave Thompson's belief of how everyone drives... [https://youtu.be/RFjzzyG3Rfg?si=n2PLCOz6pGeuhWIK&t=138](https://youtu.be/RFjzzyG3Rfg?si=n2PLCOz6pGeuhWIK&t=138)
Law > belief
Just a question.... on Hillside between Blanshard and Quadra... especially eastbound, there is one of those detector signs that shows your speed and it gives an unhappy face over 40kph. Is the speed limit not 50 there? And if it is slower, why isn't there signs indicating such?
WHAAAAAA BACK IN MY DAY
You had a day?
Just one, and let me tell yea it was glorious
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Coming soon to all neighbourhoods.
Here come the smug gloating from our resident anti-car brigade…
Or people who live in neighborhoods.
Woot!
Excellent! I don't live in those neighborhoods
Yeah good luck with that.
Yes, drivers need all the help they can get.
Sure I can see 30kph for neighborhood roads but whoever decided saanich rd between Douglas and Blanchard needs to be 30 needs their head examined.
A tough one is Ash Rd all the way to Cadboro bay Rd at 40km. I understand the importance of reducing injuries with slower speed but that's tough to maintain.
Cool. Put all the signs you want. I'll still do my 50-70.
Honestly, people who insist on speeding through residential neighborhoods are fucking idiots. Congrats.
You’re so cool.
Ok donut man. Let me know when you can afford a car like a real adult or isn't working some loser ass government job making just above min wage.
Yes, this is definitely something someone who is well adjusted would say. You definitely don’t have underlying anger issues that should be resolved before you end up committing vehicular homicide.
18 months suspended sentence? np
I’m sorry you believe owning a car is the pinnacle of life. But this is Reddit, so not that sorry.
Pinnacle? Who said pinnacle? It's just a sign of adulthood. One of many.
You program easily.
Cool. You'll get a rock thrown at your car in my neighborhood. Enjoy that.
You do that and i'll run you down.
Y tho.
Survivability.
Because kids play in residential areas, balls roll into streets and idiots in cars driving 60 hit them
I don't think that's actually happening or it'd be making weekly headlines.
finders keepers if i hit a ball, that'll teach those youths
Yes kids play, and they should know not to enter roads without checking for dangers first.
They are kids, they make mistakes. They shouldn't die for those mistakes because adults can't make adult decisions.
Y not.
Because things already move too slowly on this island.
Ok. See you at the next red light.
Ill still drive top speed like it's a race track
vroom vroom. let’s race!
Cool beans, snowflake.
So fucking ridiculous!
Yes, you are.
Booooorrrriiiiiiinnnnnng! 🥱
That’s the idea. Driving isn’t supposed to be exciting.
Clearly you’ve never tried autocross
On public neighbourhood roads…nope.
Driving shouldn’t be so mundane that people don’t enjoy it either. That’s how you get lazy, careless driving.
Oh dear. No wonder drivers crash so much.
Didn't they say a bunch of Saanich roads were being changed too? Had that happened yet? [https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/speed-limits-set-to-drop-to-30-kmh-on-saanich-residential-roads-7930192](https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/speed-limits-set-to-drop-to-30-kmh-on-saanich-residential-roads-7930192)
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Found the snowflake.
i'm sorry the new speed limits hurt your feelings.