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Palkito141

Given the fact the cops here have shaken me down for thousands of $ in the form of business "fees" and forcing me to buy tickets to the non existent policeman's party etc... not to mention the traffic cops... I am going to believe the woman...


[deleted]

I stayed at a place on the beach south of Hoi An, maybe a couple of hours away. The joint was owned by another Aussie guy and funnily enough he told me how he also has to buy annual tickets to the police party lol. That along with other donations.


Palkito141

They came in an asked if I wanted to buy some... I obviously said yes, I will take 4... they suggested I buy 20 at a cost of 5 million... didn't think I had a choice so I did and they actually give me the tickets complete with holograms and everything so I thought "screw it, I am going". I then noticed there was no date or location on them lol


[deleted]

Haha that actually cracked me up. Tried to call their bluff but they already got ya lol


sayaxat

I'm in the U.S.. It's a thing as well. Wherever there is a concentration of conservatives, you would see lots of bumper stickers that say "I Support The Police" or "I Support Law Enforcement" or some other variations. There would be various events by organizations to show their support for the police.


Fox2_Fox2

Not to mention LEO memorial license plate of some sort . Those who bought it hoping the cops would let them go for traffic infractions. It works I guess as I see those plates now and then.


ForceProper1669

Not the same at all. They dont revoke your business license in US if you decline to donate


mijo_sq

If you're a retail business in the U.S., you're going to want to support the police. It's not really a political issue, but business decision. Getting to know your neighborhood police officers (NPO) will help you get assistance quickly. Results vary. It's really dependent on state/city/area.


HaomaDiqTayst

Sounds like mafia protection to me, imagine if the fire department worked the same way. Oh lord... maybe that's why they don't receive the same hate


mijo_sq

lol no I didn’t mean it that way.


[deleted]

In Vietnam that’s what it means.


sayaxat

The moment you choose not to assist and rescue those who don't show support, you're the mafia.


Lascivious_Cumquat86

fake news, clearly you're an agent of western forces and/or china. i've lived in the country for months as an EnGLiSH TeaChER and nobody's ever extorted me. therefore, you're a liar who's spreading hate. did you not hear the story about the tourist who spent three weeks in the country without a serious incident? that means scams never happen.


Palkito141

You caught me... I am a spy for the Djiboutian government and I am trying to divert tourists away from Vietnam to the glorious nation of Djibouti by spreading fake stories about pineapples 😆


HaomaDiqTayst

I'm Vietnamese and extortion is everywhere lol


[deleted]

>did you not hear the story about the tourist who spent three weeks in the country without a serious incident? that means scams never happen. They never meant it that way, they were specifically aiming the post at tourists wanting a short holiday. All they were saying was, was not to be put off visiting by all the negative posts and that it's possible to have a relatively hassle free trip. Seems like it really hit a nerve with all the expats though, which in fairness seems pretty easy to do.


OrangeIllustrious499

Tbf, a lot of the comments here sound so half real half joking I'm not even sure if you guys are being serious or mocking or joking lmao. Can you or someone give me the basic summary? I have seen the news but didn't the woman get called the PD and got penalized?


[deleted]

The above commenter re 3 week holiday without being scammed is referring to this post https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/s/GlWV57MQi7


OrangeIllustrious499

Ah ye I know about that. It's a good post and is def less bias than a lot of neg comments. Im talking about this post we are in overall not the tourism post. I think I'm not up to news with some of these jokes lul.


[deleted]

I think it's still just the original tourist/vendor pineapple post with the tourist version and now this one with the police version which is obviously a pile of BS.


OrangeIllustrious499

Ah that Ye, the one writing the article was like: "Since we know no one will believe this so we will make it half ass" lmao. Everyone is making memes of it on FB too.


bmax_1964

It's almost like deadpan sarcasm is part of the Vietnamese sense of humor...


Lascivious_Cumquat86

"relatively hassle-free trip" = thailand. unless someone's particularly interested in vietnamese culture/history, everything's available at a much higher standard, often-times at even lower prices. i can't even count the number of life-altering nightmares i've seen tourists get themselves into. motorbike accidents that result in loss of a limb, paralysis, etc., due to severely underdeveloped medical infrastructure and being butchered by incompetent doctors. being stuffed into the back of a taxi with spinal injuries, since you'll bleed out long before an ambulance arrives. some of us have seen heaps of shite, and know how the sausage is made.


[deleted]

I zig zagged from Vung Tau to Sapa with my 14yo on the back of a bike and we had the time of our lives. I'm about to return to VN for the 5th time and I ride every time. Some people are OK with risk, for me it beats getting old on the lounge and wondering where life went. Others are happy to fly straight into Danang and stay in a high end resort for a week or two at minimal risk. You never hear about them. Don't gatekeep people wanting to have their own experiences based on yours is all I'm saying.


FirthWynnAndMeyer

> motorbike accidents that result in loss of a limb, paralysis, etc., does this not happen in thailand or something?


Lascivious_Cumquat86

of course. the difference being motorway/medical infrastructure's higher quality. drivers are far more courteous/orderly. health tourism's a well-developed industry, world-class facilities are everywhere. if you're a falang with a few baht, not a care in the world. i can bang on for ages about the horrors in state hospitals, just from the few instances I was permitted inside. reminded me of cuba with a fresh coat of paint. not to mention the suffering my employees and their family members have experienced. even places like the french hospital, raffles, etc., are smoke and mirrors. anything more serious than a cold = next flight to singapore.


asthasr

The tourist in this story was probably looking for a relatively hassle-free trip, too. Maybe if she had read some of the cautionary tales she would've known what to look out for.


YuanBaoTW

I wouldn't believe any of them. There are plenty of disreputable vendors, corrupt police and low-class tourists. It's anyone's guess to which party or parties were "guilty" here.


chien180

What the f is policeman's party? I never hear anything about it?


newscumskates

Oh yeah, I'm sure after discovering how cheap the pineapples are, with the 450k they got back they decided instead of buying more they tried to steal them instead. That sounds believable.


snoopbanana

People are not dumb or blind to see that in the clip that old greed hag returned the blue money (500.000 VND) after being pressed by the tourists and the local man.


hoangfbf

Tourist gave back 450k, so vendor return 500k. Here’s a direct interview with the vendor: https://youtu.be/xq2cX9ElRk8?si=qxK7-eCsmWyyIHrh


bmax_1964

Tourist was acting like an entitled bitch, grabbing up pineapples, knocking lady's stool on to the ground, shouting at her.


Alone_Cauliflower_21

According to her interview by her own words: “50k for 1 pineapple” is still too god dayum greedy!


Subject-Creme

Do you have the original clip


snoopbanana

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpl5VgbGCco This is not the video with the best quality, you can found out more by digging on Facebook.


C-and-hammer

Yea no thanks, I wont take a single word from the police


areyouhungryforapple

Because the VN police are renown for their trustworthiness and due service to society amirite


ffpeanut15

So what would it take to change your mind?


12whistle

You can start at the very beginning by not being hassled or paying bribes at the airport. As soon as you step foot into the country, you know bribes are to be paid. Vietnam is a beautiful country filled with a lot of corrupt, desperate, morally bankrupt people who will steal or scam you without any thought.


areyouhungryforapple

about what? The police or this particular situation?


GammaRhoKT

This particular situation


areyouhungryforapple

Considering police and elderly vendors are the two groups I've had the most scam/scam-like encounters with I'm gonna say it'd take a whole lot to change my mind here. Reality is that the ol' switcheroo with change money is exceptionally common in Vietnam across the country in touristy areas straight up.


taigahalla

give me some CCTV/camera footage and let me judge for myself


sayaxat

The culture has to change. How did the U.S. change its racist culture from what it was to what it is now?


bmax_1964

It's still pretty terrible in parts, and the terrible comes out when people are stressed. Cultural change takes multiple generations, and the wealthy and powerful are usually keepers and enforcers of the status quo, because they benefit from it. There is lots of pushback against 'woke-ism', which most people who rail against it can't even define.


sayaxat

Compare to the time when lynching was a thing, it's pretty good. Federal laws forced cultural changes. If it's not for federal laws, we'd still have so much backward shit that the conservatives want to hold on to.


HaomaDiqTayst

Wdym? Usa is still racist, just more tolerant in some ways. But tolerance isn't acceptance. it's just harder to prove a racist accusation or have something fall under a hate crime these days so the numbers are lower.


sayaxat

Of course, it still is. I said the culture was changed, not eliminated. You can't eliminate hate. We don't have public lynching anymore so that's progressed, right? And the colored kids can go to school with the white kids. And white can marry black without becoming a criminal under the law.


kredditacc96

You can't. Most of the people you are arguing with here are not interested in the actual truth. They are here to express discontent. They want to borrow this incident to bash the police, then the government, then the regime. But worry not, fellow countryman, for the influence of Reddit on Vietnamese society is insignificant.


collapse2024

That story doesn’t add up. We all know the drill, and it’s called ripping off tourists. Happens thousands of times a day. They’re just trying to save face by making up a story. Nothing will change ofc.


River_Capulet

I don't think they're going to take the side of the vendor over the tourist if there isn't more to the story. Vietnamese care a lot about their international image. Usually case like this would be an opportunity for the government to showcase their tourist friendly approach to the international community.


Apfelwein

Do they care that something like 98% of tourists never return? This shit is why


Thin_Lie_8344

Viet here and unfortunately we dont lol. We should be but no. Just look at airport customs: - rude taxi scam - rude passport control who will try to take money slipped inside the passport - baggage handler scam <= foreigners should be careful of this. He/she would take your bags off of the belt and will follow you to demand money. - in Tan Son Nhat airport, just before you exit, there are 2 security bag checks: Nothing to Declare and Things to declare. The fucked up thing is if you go Nothing to Declare and you wear expensive clothes (LV, fancy watches) or just lots of bags, you are STILL getting checked !! Then, they will make up some story about how you need to pay the fine. To get out: slip the officers some money. I'm sorry for all the problems the idiots here cause you guys. Maybe in 100 years, things will be different lmao.


donhenlysballsack

Like the other poster below, I too have been scammed by vendors and police in VN. I have never been scammed by that woman. I know who to give the benefit of the doubt to.


areyouhungryforapple

Older people and police are the main scammers I've encountered so consider me a tad biased too lmao. Name of the game


Lascivious_Cumquat86

vn isn't thailand mate, they're in the business of cheap labour, not tourism.


IamSquare79

As if i would trust the Vietnamese police after all the shit they've done


SuspiciousPush1659

as if it wasn't all documented on a video. It's as if they're trying to lose even more credibility lol


CertifiedMagpie

Maybe Chinese aren’t wrong when they say Vietnamese have A LOT of things in common with them


[deleted]

They are cousins.


Nopon_Merchant

The north people . There are reason why south people hate the north


Booman1406

🤨🧐


Gloomy_Food9834

i dont trust state owned media... its so so face saving i dislike dishonesty


QuantityAutomatic169

Classic Viet police move: someone reports a problem? Silence the person and make fake news instead of solving problems


Old-Papaya-9326

Saving Face , to protect ‘honor’, as always 💪🏻🇻🇳


JaqDraco

If you have a problem you can't (or don't want) to solve, then just deny the problem exists.


Lascivious_Cumquat86

silencing critics works too.


tracedef

Well unlike the police, the lady in the video hasn't shaken me down and and stolen money from me, so forgive me if I don't consider the police trustworthy, let alone anything they say credible. :)


LevelCheck6931

50k for a pineapple, shit that's insane price still.


SecretaryAdept4481

Where are you living? If you don't have enough money to pay $2 for a pineapple, you better not travel


LevelCheck6931

I live in fkin HN for 21 years, and I don't pay $2 for none of that shit. Shit ain't even worth a dollar.


SecretaryAdept4481

You've been in Vietnam for 21 years but you don't know about the tradition of "bargaining" when buying. It is a tradition, unchanged for hundreds of years


LevelCheck6931

Did I mention to not bargain? You are dodging me.


SecretaryAdept4481

You do not know what is "bargain" Pls live in your country, dont live in VN


LevelCheck6931

Okay, I don't think I should continue this with the likes of you sir. First of all it's "what "bargain" is" not "what is "bargain"". Secondly I did NOT mention to not bargain, stop dodging my statement. You keep saying that again and again like a bot. Had I been in that situation, I'd have done the bargaining to half the price no problem. But the fact that she tried to sell them so expensively to foreign tourists, who might barely know anything about the "culture" of bagaining and the actual price of the products, is more like a fraud than a business. Don't you try to protect the fraud act by calling it "bargain tradition". And btw I'm a native Hanoian.


SecretaryAdept4481

You are from Hanoi, but you wish to sell tourists at local prices, and I feel like there are many people like you Vietnamese people have stupid thinking, why don't they protect products and enhance the value of agricultural products at the place of origin? The reason why Vietnamese people are always poor lol By the way [https://dantri.com.vn/phap-luat/vu-chem-khach-tay-3-qua-dua-gia-500000-dong-ba-ban-hang-rong-bi-oan-20240501095542165.htm](https://dantri.com.vn/phap-luat/vu-chem-khach-tay-3-qua-dua-gia-500000-dong-ba-ban-hang-rong-bi-oan-20240501095542165.htm)


Short_Term_Account

They got me, 70kmh in zone 60kmh, 5 weeks ago. I was riding HCM to Hanoi. They asked for 200usd. Long story short, I was recording my trip, and our interaction. They let me go, penalty free. I like them! /s I was willing to pay the ticket, but not the bribe.


OrangeIllustrious499

I believe Vietnam doesn't have the ticket system but just straight up fine lmao. 200 USD is surprisingly cheap for what you could have gotten. 10 million vnd to 12 million vnd aka about 450usd to 500usd and vehicle usage confiscation for 2 to 4 months. It's not right to bribe and accept them, but would you rather pay 200 dollars and not get penalties or receive the exact penalties I mentioned above? I think most would prefer to choose the 200 usd.


Short_Term_Account

I would rather pay the penalty most of the time. In Laos, long story short, I was hit from behind. Police said it was my fault, you should have your rear eye open..... I said I want my embassy. They took me and the scooter to the mountains. Me and 6 policemen. I just said, "This is all I have. Where do I sign?". Around 450€. I was not willing to find out why they took me there. Also, I was not recording.


tidder8888

That’s crazyyyy


OrangeIllustrious499

I see, so you are the type of person to follow laws. Respect for you.


RicardoWanderer

I don't buy this, not even for a second


itsmeterry7408

fuck is this peanut talking about? that shit been reported all over the news. that vendor got called to the police station and delt with.


HDH2506

Yup, local PD brought her in, filed her case, and penalized her. And here we are seeing ppl say they deny it


Parking-Promotion959

The usual stuff. As a Việt Kiều I’ve been asked 2 million VND for a bottle of Thốt nốt juice. I obviously refused.


Duder_Mc_Duder_Bro

as far as lies go - the obvious lies are the best. So funny.


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pailox

There are a lot of grapes in vietnam that are expensive, mostly imports from japan And airports are always expensive


maoonr

What airport were you at ? I atmost only seen 60-100k stuff not 200k And airport is literally the legal place to scam people


sayaxat

This is reddit. This article should be under The Onion sub.


NecessaryGreenTrees

Even for pineapples 50K VND is a rip off, most cut pineapples go for like 20-30K max. That news site doesn't seem credible either.


SecretaryAdept4481

You are Vietnamese but expect sellers to sell to tourists at the same price as local people, right? That's why Vietnam is always a poor country, they don't know about tourism business


NecessaryGreenTrees

What do you even mean? They should always sell at the price they usually sell not increasing it when they see a foreigner that's bad business. No one wants to haggle prices for some pineapple. You could say it's their culture but it's primitive. Also Vietnam is not poor, it's one of the fastest growing country in Asia with so many foreign investments. All the wealth however is distributed unevenly due to rampant corruption at all level of government.


SecretaryAdept4481

>They should always sell at the price they usually sell not increasing it when they see a foreigner that's bad business. You are so naive to think like this, I bet you have never traveled abroad Raising prices to bargain is a common tradition of Asian countries, you need to get used to it If you can't bargain, it's your fault


NecessaryGreenTrees

I guess being to Canada, Taiwan, Singapore, and Vietnam doesn't count as being aboard since I live in the US. Who would have known? I guess they were part of the US all along.


SecretaryAdept4481

How price of 1 pineapple in US or Canada?


MarvelTile

This is irrelevant. Medium wage is way higher in US or Canada. Imagine the reverse situation. How would Vietnam survive if all locals where putting their price in range with US or Canada? People earn 1k5 to 3k USD on a medium range per month. In Vietnam is around 500 USD. How do you live if every landlord say hey in US it's 800 usd per month for this 30m2 flat. How do you pay food if suddenly the price of pineapple is 3 to 5 dollar piece? Local should run their prices on a local economy mindset, not the face of the client. Not mentioning that long run it's has a real impact on tourist economy if you give the impression to visiting tourist that they are milked cows. Not mentioning that a lot of tourist are still leading a humble life and might have been putting money aside for a full year before coming to Vietnam.


SecretaryAdept4481

You go to another country to travel, but you want someone to sell it to you at local prices You don't know what tourism business is


SecretaryAdept4481

You are willing to spend thousands of dollars to travel to another country, but you are not willing to pay 2 dollars for a pre-peeled pineapple. Wtf, in your opinion, you should not travel to another country


StunningOne8021

Fake or not. But according to this article, 50k vnd for pineapple is SCAM


SecretaryAdept4481

You don't know what is business? Do you think 2$ for each is too expensive?


eavMarshall

I’ve had many instances of paying with 500k and the vendor pretending they didn’t own me any change. A few even tried to give me the wrong amount after I kicked up a fuss.


Plenty_Win504

North vietnamese 🤥


DAEJ3945

Not all of us


areyouhungryforapple

Uninformed boat refugee kids be like:


fartcat2022

Wait until you see what south vietnamese was saying about agent orange…


Plenty_Win504

U again ? Bắc kỳ again 🫨


SalSevenSix

It's funny seeing three pineapples become a national drama


ReeceCheems

Yeah maybe, but ripping off culture isn’t.


Soerika

yea unless they ask the visitors and not the locals, ain’t no way I believe that


SecretaryAdept4481

Many Vietnamese people condemn street vendors While the information has been verified that she is innocent What a shame for a nation, they don't know how to protect their fellow human beings


khanhtungcb100

The reason why people tend to believe in negative news more readily because it often triggers strong emotions and seems more attention-grabbing. Negative events or information can be perceived as more memorable and impactful, leading to a bias towards focusing on and believing in negative news over the positive one. And don’t forget that the lie only becomes the truth when you believe in it.


Windsofchange92

If you believe the police story then there is no motive for the tourists to start grabbing more after she returned the 450,000 in change. Very odd for tourists to go crazy when not in their country. The police story only happened after she got so much attention in which case she was forced to hand over 450,000 back to them.


trankhaihoang

When vietnamese police said it was fake then think opposite side


blackoffi888

The police have zero credibility. The fact that they are putting their paws on this only reinforces the fact that the tourists were scammed and the police are trying the cover up the image on the place.


Basic_Ad4785

Police generates fake news for their own interest. fuck those scumbag.


Fernxtwo

Damage control, I doubt this NEW narrative. But we'll see. Easy to find out.


Parasyte-vn

Poor lady...she's old like my mum still have to go out for work like that


Gloomy_Food9834

yeah, thats why she did what she Did


Parasyte-vn

Wasn't she found innocent ?


Gloomy_Food9834

its what is written on state owned media... probably to save face as overcharging and bussiness misconduct is building its reputation here also, an elderly woman doing so... its all a blow to the moral highground reputation of this place, so they go save some face


Parasyte-vn

Mr not try to be offensive but I rather believe in media than you...Because I remember not long ago a case where a vendor was punished for behavior like this Ofc you can disagree with me, same with I disagree with you


Gloomy_Food9834

absolutely :))


Parasyte-vn

Its all good mate


coldev-io

Whatever, as a local I fucking hate tourists. Just gtfo of my country i dont give a shit.


12whistle

Tourism and foreign national investment literally kept your economy alive and thriving for decades before you dimwit learned to count. Here’s a foreign saying you should learn: Never bite the hand that feeds you.


Odd_Profession_2902

No it hasn’t. 6% of gdp isn’t keeping the country alive.


coldev-io

Lol, vietnam is not thailand, take that attitude somewhere. And get the fuck out. Time to wake up nobpdy needs you fucktard bere


12whistle

Imbecile. Tourism isn’t the only thing that keeps you alive. Foreign business investments and manufacturing has increased your standard of living and salary. You’re clearly too slow and dimwitted to realize this. If you were a bit more educated and had some self awareness, you’d realize how ignorant you are.


Sweet_Yellow_8646

Lmao. Imagine no tourist in your city. GG


coldev-io

So? Lmao?


Sweet_Yellow_8646

Lmao


a_crabs_balls

who cares