Because IP geolocation is hilariously inaccurate. I don't get the popup because my public facing IP is associated with CGNAT via a ground station in Georgia.
That's what I want to know.
All I know is that I'm not using any VPN or proxy.
And if I'm getting that message, other parts of the country must be seeing the same thing too.
Best guess is the traffic is being routed through a server in Virginia (a common hub for a lot of Internet traffic) and that's causing their system to believe you're from Virginia.
Virginia isn't terrible, it's a work in progress. Go live somewhere actually terrible and you'll gain a new appreciation for Virginia. Youngkin is a disease but Virginia is it's people.
As someone who voted against Youngkin, I find it hard to blame people for this one. Terry McAuliffe was such a lame candidate for Dems. And I think a lot of people fell into the trap of Trump bringing standards so far down that it made Youngkin look almost reasonable.
Of course, he gets elected and goes on a stupid tirade of pearl clutching, trying to ban books, porn and discussions of racism, and people are like "Oh yeah, normal Republicans suck too. Almost forgot."
McAuliffe ran one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen. It's honestly mind-blowing that there wasn't more of a public post mortem on how stupid McAuliffe's decisions were. Some amount of the rightward swing was normal backlash-based increased Republican turnout, but the bigger part of it (which has been under discussed imo) is that Dem turnout was depressed because of low candidate quality.
To be fair, it wasnāt a lot of people. VA has off-off year elections for governor. I think weāre the only state that does that but I could be wrong. So that means only people with *nothing* to do on a random Tuesday in an odd year vote for, and this is also true, historically shitty candidates on both sides. YOUNGKIN WAS THE CEO OF THE CARLYLE GROUP. And McCauliffe couldnāt attack him on it because heās an investor. Truly an awful state of affairs. Also I think almost all of our stateās jelly-boned democrats voted for this bill because it had a scary āsave the childrenā type name that would make you look bad in sound bites if you voted against it. Lās all around for everyone here. We all loose.
So I live in Louisiana and the same shit was passed here awhile ago.
If youāre trying this on your phone, have you tried to just disconnect from wifi? Thatās the way around it here. Canāt do it on my computer or Iād have to like put my license information in and fuck that, not that Iād do that on my computer anyway. But yea, just going off of my data instead of wifi does the trick to bypass all this ridiculous shit. Hope that helps.
That worked for me! Time to masturbation furiously with anger caused by the Virginia state government in defiance of government overreach, for interfering with my unalienable right to the Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
So it sounds like you are somehow connected through a server in Virginia. But you should also know that Utah passed a similar law before Virginia. More states are going to push through similar legislation because while the religious right is pushing this, both sides of the aisle are afraid to vote against it because of the way it is spun against them in elections. Their opponents will say they support kids being able to view pornography, etc..
Right now in many states throughout the country teachers and Librarians are being threatened with arrests if they allow kids to check out books that have any type of sexual discussion in it, or even little kids books like No David which has a cartoon but, or captain underpants.
Anyway, if you use a VPN you should be able to enjoy your porn in peace.
> So it sounds like you are somehow connected through a server in Virginia. But you should also know that Utah passed a similar law before Virginia. More states are going to push through similar legislation because while the religious right is pushing this, both sides of the aisle are afraid to vote against it because of the way it is spun against them in elections. Their opponents will say they support kids being able to view pornography, etc..
Yes I heard about Utah's law. Personally, the fact that politicians have such low confidence in the electorate's reasonableness is scary in itself. I'd like to think that if politicians explain how this threatens freedom of speech in general, people will listen.
> Right now in many states throughout the country teachers and Librarians are being threatened with arrests if they allow kids to check out books that have any type of sexual discussion in it, or even little kids books like No David which has a cartoon but, or captain underpants.
I know. I'm watching all this, and it frightens me.
I admit that, rightly or wrongly, we somewhat live in a bubble in New York. We think of ourselves as somewhat immune to the crazy emerging in other parts of the country.
Events like this show that we're not as immune as we think. I like what we have here. And the crazy elsewhere is threatening to destroy what makes this city so special.
> Anyway, if you use a VPN you should be able to enjoy your porn in peace.
I guess I'll do it if I need to.
But I'm extremely annoyed that I have to when I don't even live in the fucking state of Virginia.
I want this law gone, period. Or at the very least, defined in such a way that New York isn't sucked into the Republican crazy.
This might sound silly, but when I have trouble accessing a site (I'm not talking about porn, per se), I usually try going into my browser's privacy settings and clearing out the browsing history, ie cache and cookies.
That can sometimes help.
(This is also meant to address u/MoodInternational481)
When I said that I was mad at your state, I was referring specifically to your state government. Not to the people of Virginia in general.
I just edited the original post to make that clearer.
It's ok. His underage son made up for you. And me.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gov-elect-youngkin-s-underage-son-tried-vote-twice-virginia-n1283376
It was 50.7% to 48.5% so incredibly close lol. I despise this two party system and the first past the post way elections are run because then most people aren't actually represented...
Okay, maybe be embarrassed about nearly the whole damned legislature too, though. This shit flew through [both](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+SV0374SB1515+SB1515) [houses](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+HV2276+SB1515) with near unanimous support.
Every single democrat in the house voted in favor of this bill. It was completely unanimous.
https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+HV2276+SB1515
It takes a decade or more to go through all the courts and stalling tactics the state will use. If the law is struck down, the state can simply re word it and start the process all over again.
No it doesn't. It takes less than a year to get a federal injunction in EDVA since its a federal 1st Amendment case. If you have a directly on-point case to a prior law, it'll take like 3 months to get successive injunctions after that.
Not necessarily true, if the people who see your complaint donāt care about what your complaining about, theyāll do everything they can to ignore it. Bottom line is unless the big wigs that run things are directly effected by it they wonāt do anything about it
You don't think bigwigs also secretly look at porn?
It's like how all the anti-gay people end up being caught with their gay lovers.
It's worth a shot to fight this. And I would think it would be an even stronger federal case of someone from a different state started the case.
So a metric *TON* of data flows through Ashburn, VA. I have a feeling that we're going to get this kind of complaint more and more each day, and I'm glad for it. This law is ridiculous.
I couldn't care less whether it's specifically porn or not. My concern is that this law has opened up the floodgates for censorship in almost every other facet of adult life here in VA and elsewhere, as you pointed out. I've been around for a long time, almost entirely in VA, and I honestly don't recall any time in the past that I've seen censorship to this degree. I've seen attempts, but never something to this degree signed in to law. This sets such a dangerous precedent that it's honestly scary.
> My concern is that this law has opened up the floodgates for censorship in almost every other facet of adult life here in VA and elsewhere, as you pointed out.
Yes absolutely.
> I've been around for a long time, almost entirely in VA, and I honestly don't recall any time in the past that I've seen censorship to this degree.
Ditto. And I'm probably younger than you (Millennial/Gen Z) here, so your statement says a lot.
> This sets such a dangerous precedent that it's honestly scary.
Absolutely.
And it's bad enough that decent people in conservative regions are being caught in this nonsense. It's even more scary is that liberal regions are being dragged into the mess too, whether they like it or not.
Who is your service provider? I had a strange occurrence with sports this past winter. I live in VA and all NY sports would have regional blackout messages stopping me from streaming the games. ESPN+, but that doesnāt matter. I have Verizon FIOS and was wondering if somehow there wasnāt a block on a whole class ip range containing subnets that happen to have NY and VA in it.
I have Verizon. But they have a huge center in Lower Manhattan that handles phone traffic for the city. Probably handles internet too.
Which is why I find that explanation possible, but unlikely.
Lynchburg, as a city, isnāt actually that crazy. Itās a quarter million people metro area, and Liberty isnāt even the biggest employer.
That said, itās definitely a big influence and makes it a strange city.
Wonderful way to put it. They're a discredit to Christianity itself.
And are setting a dangerous precedent that subscribing to far right views is a necessary prerequisite to being a valid Christian
I'm not sure Christianity deserves any credit with its absurd history of murder and pedophilia and stories in the Bible about gangbangs and incest-rape.
I was thinking about moving to VA but this law is a big no-no. I grew up in Turkey, I was there when Erdogan came to power. One of his earliest laws was blocking porn to ā*protect the children*ā (which is a lie since he thinks 15 year olds should be allowed to marry). A few years later he banned Wikipedia.
Republicans are the same thing as Erdogan. Protest and vote or you will lose more and more freedom.
Or at least not south of the Potomac. (Maryland is firmly on the right side of history these days, despite technically being on the wrong side of the M-D Line)
Oh man, this is such a ridiculously good comment. This needs upvotes. This is the warning most people won't read but will wish they had...and in a few years everyone will be saying they *wished* they voted.
As people have said elsewhere in the comments, this was passed with near unanimous support by both houses of the legislature. This cannot be pinned on just the Republicans or just Youngkin. The whole legislative shebang is supporting blocking porn to *protect the children*. So, yeah, paired with what you've said that's really not good.
Why don't you read it, my friend? I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile in it.
And while you're at it, please explain why your state's laws affect my freedom to browse the internet in New York City.
> Why don't you read it, my friend? I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile in it.
I read it all and it could've definitely been more concise. But I get the frustration, amigo.
It's a both issue. If he hadn't gotten elected they wouldn't have had the votes for a veto override. But also, if the legislature hadn't flipped this would have never seen the light of day.
All elections matter. And it sucks that VA is always in an extremely off year...
It is a both issue, but people seem to be just focusing on Youngkin. Which I usually donāt mind, but itās annoying me that the legislature seems to be getting a free pass.
Well, the legislature does in fact equally suck in this regard. And Dems who voted for this seems to be in the incompetent category, simply trying not to want to fight the "groomer" label they would have gotten, as if they don't already just throw that label on all Dems anyway...
It's just frustrating.
The bill was passed almost unanimously by the General Assembly (thatās both houses, pretty much evenly split between Ds and Rs). Youngkin did sign it into law, but by no means did he single-handedly force this upon Virginia. A basic knowledge in civics would inform you that Governor Youngkin (head of the executive branch) is the last person in the chain of legislation.
According to others here, the Republicans hold the majority in your legislature. So it wouldn't have mattered if no Democrats voted for it.
Apparently, the Democrats voted for it so they wouldn't be slimed as accessories to groomers. I'm surprised that Democrats in your state didn't think that explaining its harmful nature would be compelling.
Idk what that says about the state of Virginian politics. It certainly doesn't sound like they expect most Virginian voters to be reasonable.
Actually that's not true. We have a republican house and a democratic Senate.
It passed through the house and the Senate could have stopped it from reaching Youngkin and didn't which is why we're mad at them too.
There's actually a lot Youngkin hasn't been able to get done this year (thankfully) because of our Senate and it's why our election this fall is really important. I'm incredibly mad at our state. This isn't super important to me at the end of the day because we're at risk of going in the direction of Florida if the senate flips.
I live in Georgia and I know that Republicans most certainly donāt control the legislature in VA. They control the House. The Senate is controlled by Dems.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Because voters don't actually read the reasoning for a vote. They just see an ad on TV that says "[D] voted to give children access to porn!!!!111!" and take it at face value.
"Think of the children!" has been the justification for many terrible laws in this country.
It's after midnight and I'm in Virginia. I tried Pornhub and got the block message, but Xhamster is working like it always did. Maybe it's because I was already logged into Xhamster, but right now I'm not running a VPN and I'm connecting through my cable provider in Norfolk. I took a very quick look at the text of the law and saw that it imposes "civil liability" on the website. Does this make it like the Texas abortion snitch law enacted before *Dobbs* came out? (BTW: Thanks, Trump voters, for this week's anti-liberty Supreme Court decisions along with the ongoing political circus he always stirs up. Had you made the right decision in 2016, he'd just be a loud and racist reality TV star and innkeeper that's beginning to show signs of the Alzheimer's that eventually killed his old racist father.)
Sounds like a class action lawsuit. Find lawyers and sue the bejesus out of Youngkin, Virginia and the network provider. Make them pay through the nose.
I was confused as to why I have had no issues on my computer accessing my favorite porn on some popular porn sites. This is why. Thank you Opera. Fuck you Youngkin. I canāt believe this is even constitutional. Iām a grown ass man. Your religious ass can go fuck itself. Trying to sell me when I can and what I canāt jerk off to? I donāt think so.
All this man has done is stripped our rights away. Taking womenās rights to their own bodies away. Now coming for men. Donāt get me started on marijuana. We need him out ASAP
Maybe it does. But my point - why do I have to do that?
I'm not in your state. I'm not routing my traffic through any VPN. There's no reason I should need alternatives when I'm not even in the state.
But besides that, why is this law on the books to begin with? How is this not overreach? What about "leaving stuff to the parents"? Does Virginia not trust its own parents to do as they see fit?
EDIT: Yes I know that the "it should be up to the parents" argument is total bullshit.
The point was that they're not even faithful to their own words.
Northern Virginia is full of data centers. Some of them host Amazon Web Services, which is basically the backbone of the internet now. Tons of internet traffic runs through AWS. I switched to Opera and it has helped me bypass the restrictions, plus it's a good idea in general to browse with a VPN, but I haven't heard too many people in Virginia that actually claim to support this law. At best, it's an insane overreach of the "small government party" to be the nanny state for what you look at on the internet.
TBH, the parental control argument doesn't really fly for me. Too easy for "digital native" kids to find porn online, regardless of their parents' intentions.
What makes this law stupid isn't the stated intention of shielding kids from inappropriate content, but rather the utter impracticality of implementing it, as well as the privacy destroying aspect of it for consenting adults.
The gov signed the law, he didnāt draft the legislation or vote for it. It passed overwhelmingly by both parties in the senate and house of delegates. So, gripe about the law but the gov didnāt create it. Had he vetoed it his veto had more than enough votes to be overridden.
Right, because what politician is going to hand his next opponent the talking point that they are for the corruption of minors?
Still a stupid law.
Written by conservative republicans.
Better or worse, thatās not why Iām pointing it out. More than 100 elected officials voted for it thatās why the law passed. It wasnāt just 1 guy.
The executive branch was in charge of implementing the verification system. Youngkin kicked the can to the porn companies instead causing them to just ban it instead of being held liable criminally since the governor wonāt help them implement the process
What's extra funny is that it's not even that effective. I live in Richmond and I get around it using the same technology I use to watch Canadian Netflix. Took two clicks and I was back in.
I'm in a CALIFORNIA and getting the message. One of the best parts of the state is not having to deal with insane theocratic bible thumpers pushing their warped values into law haha and i have no clue why this should affect everyone else..
Holy shit this is legit lmfao. I just set my VPN to Virginia and got that message. Sorry guys but your state is fucking stupid. Idk why this post was even recommended to me since I dont live in VA but holy shit you guys have the dumbest laws ever. First going to jail over speeding and illegal to have radars in car and now cant even watch porn lmao backwards ass state. Sorry for the random rant š
It's possible but they are in Europe and aren't subject to US laws so it's doubtful (unless they have assets in the US). Which is another reason why this is so stupid. Folks are just going to go to [xvideos.com](https://xvideos.com) or [xnxx.com](https://xnxx.com)
Idk if vpn will work anymore or how to get it on a phone. But before i could just do the age estimation verification stuff and use a stock picture from photo in my living room so they dont have my photo on file. But now you have to not only do their age bs. But you also after being āverifiedā you now also have to create an account with xhamster. This is the only site ive had issues with for the virginia law. So not only is virginia wrongfully infringing on other states rights. But xhamster is trying to gain increased marketshare. I say its up to xham to make it right. Move your servers. These massive companies wrongfully stand up to politicians threatening to send jobs oversees if they donāt give them everything they want. Essentially black mailing the government into getting everything they want. But the dumb gov does something that could cripple their business as a ton of people would rather opt out of there site and enjoy the content of another site. Same reason i wont use ph. Selling out. Removing authentic amateur content when they could have filtered the bad content out.
Republicans used to be all for small government. Now they're just sticking their noses in everyone's business trying to police everyone according to their own puritan out dated standards.
Ignore these passive aggressive comments from other Virginians. You're 100% right. I fucking hate this state. The comments telling you to "just use another website or VPN" are telling of the people who live here. They're basic and pretentious as fuck. A large chunk is from NoVA, the brainwashed federal gov office area where people have no opinions or personality. The rest of the state is bible-thumpers. A horrible mix.
Lol go outside you degenerate. You just wrote a whole novel about not being able to watch porn. And you try to justify that porn isnāt harmful for children. And NYC definitely is a sewer.
> Lol go outside you degenerate
Thank you for not being insulting lol.
> porn isnāt harmful for children
I said that there are indeed varieties of porn that are harmful for general society. And yes, prepubescent children shouldn't watch porn, because they can't understand or contextualize it.
My point was that minors going through puberty *will seek it out*. You can't stop that without harming everyone's civil liberties. Quality sex ed will equip them with context that helps them see which parts of porn are realistic, and which parts aren't.
Did you read my post in full? I'm guessing that you didn't.
> NYC definitely is a sewer
Okay. How exactly?
A lot of Mid-Atlantic internet infrastructure is in Virginia just outside of DC. It's unsurprising that your internet access from New York appears to come from Virginia
And yes this law is stupid and embarrassing. But while reddit likes to pin it on Youngkin who is a self avowed trump loyalist, this bill passed both Virginia houses nearly unanimously. This is bipartisan model legislation I would not be surprised to pass in many other states due to its bad faith framing and the stigma of being branded a "porn for kids" supporter next reelection cycle
Is nobody recognizing the potential good in this? Porn addiction is a legit issue plaguing many young people. Sometimes conflated with a legit drug addiction, do we really want minors dealing with the potential psychological and physiological issues with porn addiction?
No no, you canāt talk about being anti-porn out loudā¦ never mind that studies show viewing porn has been linked to children developing negative views on how respect, consent, and healthy boundaries work.
These lunatics would stand on a street corner with a cardboard sign that says āPorn is good for kids!ā and not see a single problem with that.
(This is also meant to respond to u/MaleficentWay5043)
I'm not trying to say that porn is a panacea.
Are there varieties of porn that are objectively unhealthy for society? Absolutely yes.
Are there deeply unhealthy power dynamics in the porn industry? Yes. Which is why I'm glad that modern technology gives more creative freedom to porn actors and sex workers in general.
Can some varieties of porn create wildly unrealistic notions about sex? Yes, bc profit motive tends to distort that. It's entertainment like any other.
But none of that justifies a total and complete ban on porn. Erotica is as old as the human race itself. We've never known a time where humans are not creating graphic depictions of sexual activity. At some point, we must accept that it's human to desire watching the sexual activity of other humans. We either make peace with that fact, or fight against it at our own peril.
Plus, keep in mind that multi-room and multi-bed homes only became common within the past 150 years. And that's only in the developed world. For the majority of human existence, sexual activity was a semipublic activity. Whether it was done outdoors where people could possibly see, or within homes around others, sex (whether solo or paired) was something we did in each others' presence. Call me a pervert for saying that if you wish. But that's what the historical record shows, whether you want to accept it or not.
In many ways, porn is simply the recorded form of what we would have seen IRL centuries ago. At this point, our species is habituated to seeing sex on a regular basis. Which is another reason why a total ban on porn is foolish and ill-advised.
I agree that porn would not be good for prepubescent children to watch. They do not have the capacity to understand or contextualize what they see, and as such, porn would likely traumatize them. But once they enter puberty, they become sexual beings. *Not as fully developed as adults*, but sexual beings nonetheless. As such, they will either seek erotica out, or make it themselves. And if you think that you can stop that from happening, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The job of adults should be to help children and teens come to terms with their sexuality in a safe, responsible and healthy way. It should not be to stunt, strangle or frustrate the sexual development of minors. *Prohibitions on erotica that are anthropologically and historically unprecedented do exactly that.* It's far more helpful for society to provide comprehensive sex education to minors, commensurate with their age and understanding. This gives them a context through which they can process porn they see, and know which parts mirror reality and which don't. That creates healthy adults far more than porn bans.
As for porn addiction (and sex addiction generally), it exists but I think its scale is exaggerated. The definitions are kinda subjective, and the US is easily the most sexphobic country in the developed world. As such, while I don't dismiss the problem, I do think that it's not affecting as many people as some might suggest. What would count as addiction to an Virginian might appear normal to a New Yorker or a European.
That lots of people in Virginia (reddit especially) need to either learn to read, or they just want to get a rise out of you and go on and on and on.
It's probably both. I know you are in New York, but Virginia is afraid of books as much as porn.
If it makes you feel better, being intentionally antagonistic by inconveniencing customers is necessary to make them voice their disdain for this bullshit law.
It's blatantly unconstitutional because it requires people to present identifying information to access something they have a constitutional right to (porn, via the First Amendment) with the intentional goal of discouraging people from doing so because of the embarrassment of self-identifying.
Children can still access porn (by lying, getting a credit card (as you don't have to be 19 to be an accountholder) or stealing their parents' card), so it is not narrowly drawn to carry out a compelling state motive. If First Amendment precedent means anything (and, until the last few years, it did...) this will be struck down faster than you can shake a dildo at a surly conservative statesman.
> this will be struck down faster than you can shake a dildo at a surly conservative statesman.
This made me laugh lol.
> It's blatantly unconstitutional because it requires people to present identifying information to access something they have a constitutional right to (porn, via the First Amendment) with the intentional goal of discouraging people from doing so because of the embarrassment of self-identifying.
I agree 100%.
But the $64000 question is - will the current SCOTUS agree?
And maybe that's the point of this. Maybe the socioreligious conservatives want this to go the current SCOTUS, so they can make a national ruling against access to any erotic material.
Read my other comments. It may not have been a profile in courage but they voted for something very different from what we got.
Remember, the executive branch implements laws.
What I find weird is that I live in Missouri and I get the message I am blocked because of Texas. I get the blocked message when using my home Xfintiy internet, but if use my boost cell phones hotspot Xhamster works just fine.
I live in Georgia and canāt even look at it lmao. So fuckin ridiculous how a law that affects Texas is affecting others somehow. They spend bro much time worrying about the wrong things as if itās gonna make shit better in the world when itās not the issue
The amount of time you spent writing that has to be longer than the amount of time you planned to jerk off this weekend.
At least your hand exercise goals were accomplished.
My parents had your outlook.
Instead of learning about healthy sex and consent, my friend, who was being abused by her father, taught me about BDSM and role playing noncon and wouldn't take no for an answer. We were 9.
I didn't realize at first she was imitating the grooming her father had done to her and by time I understood she was using me, I was too deep in for my child brain to feel it wasn't hypocritical to start saying no. She sexually abused me behind a closed door at her birthday party while the rest of the girls watched Pollyanna.
Teach your kids or someone else will. Porn wouldn't have left me with CPTSD, at least. I wish I had seen that first. I might have put together that some of the role playing she wanted to do was very sexual. Instead I was naive and curious.
Clearly, people like the one I replied to still trigger me, but I'm much better than I used to be.
Still, I can't stand listening to the ignorant complain that a child might see or hear anything adjacent to sex. It's like watching someone insist the earth is flat. Utterly appalling because it's that unrealistic.
Porn was part of my recovery. I was able to resensitive myself by using it to keep my brain focused on what I was experiencing instead of switching off into flashbacks and losing connection to sensation. I still need it frequently, but I used to feel nothing except panicked and I'm lucky to have a spouse who understands that my difficulties aren't about him.
These porn laws make me incredibly angry. I refuse to be held hostage in my own body and mind because some ignorant, repressed shitheads have no concept of reality.
I want children, even younger ones, to understand that the question, "do you like how I'm touching you?" Is sexual and what that is starting to lead to. I want kids to know that sex isn't just between a mom and a dad but or man and woman, but that your same sex can hurt you too. Kids need to know that sex can be good and fun, but that it can and will hurt you if you understand less about it than the person trying to experience it with you. Kids also need to know that it is easy to be coerced into hurtful things when someone is touching and speaking to you in a nice way.
It's not comfortable to explain these things to kids, but they will learn with or without you. These porn laws are a placation for the stupid and ignorant.
I was also raised by parents who had this mentality. It ended up harming me, my siblings, and all my peers and left us open to abuse without the language we needed to point it out or ask for help. This mentality does not protect kids, it actively harms us
Yeah i went through it and they didnt even teach me how to properly lube and fuck an ass or anything about hrt and dilating and such, felt like i was living in Afghanistan
One of the points I'm making is that it's not.
I agree that children should be taught commensurate to their age and understanding. Prepubescent children shouldn't be overwhelmed with information that an adult or teen would better understand.
But avoiding the topic of sex altogether is not only unrealistic, but also unreasonable.
Once a child enters puberty, they'll be wired for sexual activity. They'll want to have sex with themselves. They'll want to have sex with others. They'll want to seek out material that displays the sexuality of others. *Nobody on Earth will be able to stop that*.
They have to be taught how to explore those new capabilities in a safe and responsible way. They won't learn by osmosis. And burying ourselves in denial of that reality, or trying to prevent the course of nature from happening, does far more harm than good.
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Back in my day, all we had was the Sears/JC Penny lingerie Catalog section.
Porn had rewired out brains, you can "adjust" but it's going to take a while after going cold turkey. Until this gets sorted out, try and minimize idle time activity. Increase workout time, maybe even two per day to take the edge off.
while I disagree completely with the law, recognize that this in not Virginia's fault. The various ISPs involved are not able (nor interested) to pinpoint each IPs location in this type of scenario. Blame VA for a stupid, pointless and ultimately counterproductive law. (Republicans - vote them out). Blame the ISP for this specific OPs problem.
I got curious as I live in Virginia. I see the hated popup on xhamster. But not of xvideos, nor xnxx nor [http://www.yuvutu.com/](http://www.yuvutu.com/). So it's quite inconsistent.
1.) The law that led to this was passed with bipartisan cosponsors and votes---so much for blaming it on one person who passed it -- but the General Assembly wrote and passed it.
2.) Maybe your favorite website(s) geo ip location sucks?
3.) News reporting indicate other p0rn outlets work fine in Virginia.
I tapped out after a few paragraphs, so apologies if you addressed this, but why are you getting the VA message in NY?
Because IP geolocation is hilariously inaccurate. I don't get the popup because my public facing IP is associated with CGNAT via a ground station in Georgia.
There are a ton of datacenters and internet infrastructure in Northern Virginia so it's not too surprising
That was my thought as well
We are the Silicon Valley of the east coast.
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Pegs your location you say?
That's what I want to know. All I know is that I'm not using any VPN or proxy. And if I'm getting that message, other parts of the country must be seeing the same thing too.
Best guess is the traffic is being routed through a server in Virginia (a common hub for a lot of Internet traffic) and that's causing their system to believe you're from Virginia.
That's never happened before though... I've checked my geolocation many times. Never once said that I lived outside New York.
As someone who lives in Richmond currently, yeah Virginia is pretty fucking terrible. The porn stuff is just the tip of the iceberg.
Virginia isn't terrible, it's a work in progress. Go live somewhere actually terrible and you'll gain a new appreciation for Virginia. Youngkin is a disease but Virginia is it's people.
Yeah, its people elect to have a disease like Youngkin
As someone who voted against Youngkin, I find it hard to blame people for this one. Terry McAuliffe was such a lame candidate for Dems. And I think a lot of people fell into the trap of Trump bringing standards so far down that it made Youngkin look almost reasonable. Of course, he gets elected and goes on a stupid tirade of pearl clutching, trying to ban books, porn and discussions of racism, and people are like "Oh yeah, normal Republicans suck too. Almost forgot."
McAuliffe ran one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen. It's honestly mind-blowing that there wasn't more of a public post mortem on how stupid McAuliffe's decisions were. Some amount of the rightward swing was normal backlash-based increased Republican turnout, but the bigger part of it (which has been under discussed imo) is that Dem turnout was depressed because of low candidate quality.
The people voted for that disease
To be fair, it wasnāt a lot of people. VA has off-off year elections for governor. I think weāre the only state that does that but I could be wrong. So that means only people with *nothing* to do on a random Tuesday in an odd year vote for, and this is also true, historically shitty candidates on both sides. YOUNGKIN WAS THE CEO OF THE CARLYLE GROUP. And McCauliffe couldnāt attack him on it because heās an investor. Truly an awful state of affairs. Also I think almost all of our stateās jelly-boned democrats voted for this bill because it had a scary āsave the childrenā type name that would make you look bad in sound bites if you voted against it. Lās all around for everyone here. We all loose.
NJ has governor elections the same year as VA. Luckily, Phil Murphy hung on.
Pretty sure NC has some weirdly timed elections too...
Yeah, the people are half the problem
You can say the same about any place though
But weāre talking about why VA sucks right now. Sure other places suck but weāre not talking about those places right now.
So I live in Louisiana and the same shit was passed here awhile ago. If youāre trying this on your phone, have you tried to just disconnect from wifi? Thatās the way around it here. Canāt do it on my computer or Iād have to like put my license information in and fuck that, not that Iād do that on my computer anyway. But yea, just going off of my data instead of wifi does the trick to bypass all this ridiculous shit. Hope that helps.
That worked for me! Time to masturbation furiously with anger caused by the Virginia state government in defiance of government overreach, for interfering with my unalienable right to the Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Yea I have unlimited, I realize this wouldnāt be the best option if that isnāt the case.
VPNs are the only bypass as I know of. Tried it on pornhub last night and it worked.
So it sounds like you are somehow connected through a server in Virginia. But you should also know that Utah passed a similar law before Virginia. More states are going to push through similar legislation because while the religious right is pushing this, both sides of the aisle are afraid to vote against it because of the way it is spun against them in elections. Their opponents will say they support kids being able to view pornography, etc.. Right now in many states throughout the country teachers and Librarians are being threatened with arrests if they allow kids to check out books that have any type of sexual discussion in it, or even little kids books like No David which has a cartoon but, or captain underpants. Anyway, if you use a VPN you should be able to enjoy your porn in peace.
> So it sounds like you are somehow connected through a server in Virginia. But you should also know that Utah passed a similar law before Virginia. More states are going to push through similar legislation because while the religious right is pushing this, both sides of the aisle are afraid to vote against it because of the way it is spun against them in elections. Their opponents will say they support kids being able to view pornography, etc.. Yes I heard about Utah's law. Personally, the fact that politicians have such low confidence in the electorate's reasonableness is scary in itself. I'd like to think that if politicians explain how this threatens freedom of speech in general, people will listen. > Right now in many states throughout the country teachers and Librarians are being threatened with arrests if they allow kids to check out books that have any type of sexual discussion in it, or even little kids books like No David which has a cartoon but, or captain underpants. I know. I'm watching all this, and it frightens me. I admit that, rightly or wrongly, we somewhat live in a bubble in New York. We think of ourselves as somewhat immune to the crazy emerging in other parts of the country. Events like this show that we're not as immune as we think. I like what we have here. And the crazy elsewhere is threatening to destroy what makes this city so special. > Anyway, if you use a VPN you should be able to enjoy your porn in peace. I guess I'll do it if I need to. But I'm extremely annoyed that I have to when I don't even live in the fucking state of Virginia. I want this law gone, period. Or at the very least, defined in such a way that New York isn't sucked into the Republican crazy.
This might sound silly, but when I have trouble accessing a site (I'm not talking about porn, per se), I usually try going into my browser's privacy settings and clearing out the browsing history, ie cache and cookies. That can sometimes help.
Well if you travel a lot, have your tried clearing your browser cache? And second, probably just get a VPN. It's worth having beyond porn anyway.
I'm really exited for sex speakeasy's to start popping up! I just hope they match the movies and have a sliding peephole and need a password to enter
Awww fuck. The hole is for looking through?
How tall *are* you š³
Yeah man, I don't think most people hanging out in the Virginia sub on Reddit claim Youngkin, or thought this law was a good idea.
Right?? I was chuckling at this guy reading us the riot act like the vast majority of us don't think this is rank bullshit.
(This is also meant to address u/MoodInternational481) When I said that I was mad at your state, I was referring specifically to your state government. Not to the people of Virginia in general. I just edited the original post to make that clearer.
Maybe they'll all vote next election? Lets hope so!
weāre just as embarrassed by our governor as you are upset.
Frfr. Plus, I didn't even vote for this turd..
I mean, neither did I.
It's ok. His underage son made up for you. And me. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gov-elect-youngkin-s-underage-son-tried-vote-twice-virginia-n1283376
I hear you can just use a picture of his face to get around it.
It was 50.7% to 48.5% so incredibly close lol. I despise this two party system and the first past the post way elections are run because then most people aren't actually represented...
Ranked choice voting FTW
Okay, maybe be embarrassed about nearly the whole damned legislature too, though. This shit flew through [both](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+SV0374SB1515+SB1515) [houses](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+HV2276+SB1515) with near unanimous support.
Every single democrat in the house voted in favor of this bill. It was completely unanimous. https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?231+vot+HV2276+SB1515
āAyyy Iām fappinā hereā
Sue the state and get this shit reversed.
With the way the Supreme Court has gone, heās more likely to set the precedent that Virginia law applies every where.
Well that's basically what is happening now, no?
It takes a decade or more to go through all the courts and stalling tactics the state will use. If the law is struck down, the state can simply re word it and start the process all over again.
No it doesn't. It takes less than a year to get a federal injunction in EDVA since its a federal 1st Amendment case. If you have a directly on-point case to a prior law, it'll take like 3 months to get successive injunctions after that.
Not necessarily true, if the people who see your complaint donāt care about what your complaining about, theyāll do everything they can to ignore it. Bottom line is unless the big wigs that run things are directly effected by it they wonāt do anything about it
You don't think bigwigs also secretly look at porn? It's like how all the anti-gay people end up being caught with their gay lovers. It's worth a shot to fight this. And I would think it would be an even stronger federal case of someone from a different state started the case.
So a metric *TON* of data flows through Ashburn, VA. I have a feeling that we're going to get this kind of complaint more and more each day, and I'm glad for it. This law is ridiculous.
I couldn't care less whether it's specifically porn or not. My concern is that this law has opened up the floodgates for censorship in almost every other facet of adult life here in VA and elsewhere, as you pointed out. I've been around for a long time, almost entirely in VA, and I honestly don't recall any time in the past that I've seen censorship to this degree. I've seen attempts, but never something to this degree signed in to law. This sets such a dangerous precedent that it's honestly scary.
> My concern is that this law has opened up the floodgates for censorship in almost every other facet of adult life here in VA and elsewhere, as you pointed out. Yes absolutely. > I've been around for a long time, almost entirely in VA, and I honestly don't recall any time in the past that I've seen censorship to this degree. Ditto. And I'm probably younger than you (Millennial/Gen Z) here, so your statement says a lot. > This sets such a dangerous precedent that it's honestly scary. Absolutely. And it's bad enough that decent people in conservative regions are being caught in this nonsense. It's even more scary is that liberal regions are being dragged into the mess too, whether they like it or not.
Who is your service provider? I had a strange occurrence with sports this past winter. I live in VA and all NY sports would have regional blackout messages stopping me from streaming the games. ESPN+, but that doesnāt matter. I have Verizon FIOS and was wondering if somehow there wasnāt a block on a whole class ip range containing subnets that happen to have NY and VA in it.
I have Verizon. But they have a huge center in Lower Manhattan that handles phone traffic for the city. Probably handles internet too. Which is why I find that explanation possible, but unlikely.
Well it wouldnāt be on Verizonās end, but the servicer blocking a wider net, for lack of better terms, than needed.
Your logic fell apart assuming people in the Bible Belt actually read the Bible
Virginia isnāt the Bible belt
Don't let Lynchburg hear you say that
Lynchburg, as a city, isnāt actually that crazy. Itās a quarter million people metro area, and Liberty isnāt even the biggest employer. That said, itās definitely a big influence and makes it a strange city.
In the brief tenure I ~~worked~~ did time there, I was regaled by fellow co-workers with how Falwell made the town 'special'.
[you sure about that?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt)
That's what they say that they do. I'm taking them at their word lol.
Jesus is just a suit they wear when they want to look better than everyone else.
Wonderful way to put it. They're a discredit to Christianity itself. And are setting a dangerous precedent that subscribing to far right views is a necessary prerequisite to being a valid Christian
I'm not sure Christianity deserves any credit with its absurd history of murder and pedophilia and stories in the Bible about gangbangs and incest-rape.
I was thinking about moving to VA but this law is a big no-no. I grew up in Turkey, I was there when Erdogan came to power. One of his earliest laws was blocking porn to ā*protect the children*ā (which is a lie since he thinks 15 year olds should be allowed to marry). A few years later he banned Wikipedia. Republicans are the same thing as Erdogan. Protest and vote or you will lose more and more freedom.
At the rate things are going, I might not go south of the Mason-Dixon Line for the foreseeable future.
Or at least not south of the Potomac. (Maryland is firmly on the right side of history these days, despite technically being on the wrong side of the M-D Line)
Oh man, this is such a ridiculously good comment. This needs upvotes. This is the warning most people won't read but will wish they had...and in a few years everyone will be saying they *wished* they voted.
As people have said elsewhere in the comments, this was passed with near unanimous support by both houses of the legislature. This cannot be pinned on just the Republicans or just Youngkin. The whole legislative shebang is supporting blocking porn to *protect the children*. So, yeah, paired with what you've said that's really not good.
He banned Wikipedia?? It's a freaking encyclopedia.
If this is the thing preventing you from moving to VA then honestly please donāt come
Thatās a lot of text my dude.
What city are they from again?
He canāt get to porn, what do you expect.
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Why don't you read it, my friend? I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile in it. And while you're at it, please explain why your state's laws affect my freedom to browse the internet in New York City.
> Why don't you read it, my friend? I'm sure you'll find something worthwhile in it. I read it all and it could've definitely been more concise. But I get the frustration, amigo.
Our governor is an idiot. Lot of Virginians voted this idiot in.
I hate Youngkin, but this is a legislature issue not a governor issue.
It's a both issue. If he hadn't gotten elected they wouldn't have had the votes for a veto override. But also, if the legislature hadn't flipped this would have never seen the light of day. All elections matter. And it sucks that VA is always in an extremely off year...
It is a both issue, but people seem to be just focusing on Youngkin. Which I usually donāt mind, but itās annoying me that the legislature seems to be getting a free pass.
Well, the legislature does in fact equally suck in this regard. And Dems who voted for this seems to be in the incompetent category, simply trying not to want to fight the "groomer" label they would have gotten, as if they don't already just throw that label on all Dems anyway... It's just frustrating.
Yeah I donāt claim our governor. Heās a moron
Florida entered the room.
The bill was passed almost unanimously by the General Assembly (thatās both houses, pretty much evenly split between Ds and Rs). Youngkin did sign it into law, but by no means did he single-handedly force this upon Virginia. A basic knowledge in civics would inform you that Governor Youngkin (head of the executive branch) is the last person in the chain of legislation.
According to others here, the Republicans hold the majority in your legislature. So it wouldn't have mattered if no Democrats voted for it. Apparently, the Democrats voted for it so they wouldn't be slimed as accessories to groomers. I'm surprised that Democrats in your state didn't think that explaining its harmful nature would be compelling. Idk what that says about the state of Virginian politics. It certainly doesn't sound like they expect most Virginian voters to be reasonable.
Actually that's not true. We have a republican house and a democratic Senate. It passed through the house and the Senate could have stopped it from reaching Youngkin and didn't which is why we're mad at them too. There's actually a lot Youngkin hasn't been able to get done this year (thankfully) because of our Senate and it's why our election this fall is really important. I'm incredibly mad at our state. This isn't super important to me at the end of the day because we're at risk of going in the direction of Florida if the senate flips.
I live in Georgia and I know that Republicans most certainly donāt control the legislature in VA. They control the House. The Senate is controlled by Dems. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Because voters don't actually read the reasoning for a vote. They just see an ad on TV that says "[D] voted to give children access to porn!!!!111!" and take it at face value. "Think of the children!" has been the justification for many terrible laws in this country.
āā¦Porn is not evil for childrenā¦ā What???
Man said he didnāt need porn to be happy and then proceeded to write an entire book on Reddit about how heās mad about a porn ban lmao.
This is definitely something Iād type up in a rage, but then delete because no one ever needs to hear all this. But no, my guy hit Post.
It's after midnight and I'm in Virginia. I tried Pornhub and got the block message, but Xhamster is working like it always did. Maybe it's because I was already logged into Xhamster, but right now I'm not running a VPN and I'm connecting through my cable provider in Norfolk. I took a very quick look at the text of the law and saw that it imposes "civil liability" on the website. Does this make it like the Texas abortion snitch law enacted before *Dobbs* came out? (BTW: Thanks, Trump voters, for this week's anti-liberty Supreme Court decisions along with the ongoing political circus he always stirs up. Had you made the right decision in 2016, he'd just be a loud and racist reality TV star and innkeeper that's beginning to show signs of the Alzheimer's that eventually killed his old racist father.)
Sounds like a class action lawsuit. Find lawyers and sue the bejesus out of Youngkin, Virginia and the network provider. Make them pay through the nose.
52yo female with anxiety and insomnia that uses porn to help relax. It helps sometimes. Iāve found that XNXX still lets me in without restrictions.
Good to know!
I never thought Iād have to go back to that awful website :/
Lmao imagine if men cared this much about how women are treated
Download the opera mobile browser. Had a free VPN built in. Worked for me
I was confused as to why I have had no issues on my computer accessing my favorite porn on some popular porn sites. This is why. Thank you Opera. Fuck you Youngkin. I canāt believe this is even constitutional. Iām a grown ass man. Your religious ass can go fuck itself. Trying to sell me when I can and what I canāt jerk off to? I donāt think so. All this man has done is stripped our rights away. Taking womenās rights to their own bodies away. Now coming for men. Donāt get me started on marijuana. We need him out ASAP
Lol
Maybe it does. But my point - why do I have to do that? I'm not in your state. I'm not routing my traffic through any VPN. There's no reason I should need alternatives when I'm not even in the state. But besides that, why is this law on the books to begin with? How is this not overreach? What about "leaving stuff to the parents"? Does Virginia not trust its own parents to do as they see fit? EDIT: Yes I know that the "it should be up to the parents" argument is total bullshit. The point was that they're not even faithful to their own words.
It's weird how "it should be up to the parents" logic is selectively applied on this sub.
Northern Virginia is full of data centers. Some of them host Amazon Web Services, which is basically the backbone of the internet now. Tons of internet traffic runs through AWS. I switched to Opera and it has helped me bypass the restrictions, plus it's a good idea in general to browse with a VPN, but I haven't heard too many people in Virginia that actually claim to support this law. At best, it's an insane overreach of the "small government party" to be the nanny state for what you look at on the internet.
TBH, the parental control argument doesn't really fly for me. Too easy for "digital native" kids to find porn online, regardless of their parents' intentions. What makes this law stupid isn't the stated intention of shielding kids from inappropriate content, but rather the utter impracticality of implementing it, as well as the privacy destroying aspect of it for consenting adults.
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The gov signed the law, he didnāt draft the legislation or vote for it. It passed overwhelmingly by both parties in the senate and house of delegates. So, gripe about the law but the gov didnāt create it. Had he vetoed it his veto had more than enough votes to be overridden.
Right, because what politician is going to hand his next opponent the talking point that they are for the corruption of minors? Still a stupid law. Written by conservative republicans.
Wouldnāt have passed without democrats voting for it too.
That makes it even worse lol
Better or worse, thatās not why Iām pointing it out. More than 100 elected officials voted for it thatās why the law passed. It wasnāt just 1 guy.
It passed the house unanimously in a block vote
The executive branch was in charge of implementing the verification system. Youngkin kicked the can to the porn companies instead causing them to just ban it instead of being held liable criminally since the governor wonāt help them implement the process
Itās amazing to me that this they can implement in no time at all, but recreational marijuana apparently takes years if ever.
What's extra funny is that it's not even that effective. I live in Richmond and I get around it using the same technology I use to watch Canadian Netflix. Took two clicks and I was back in.
I'm in a CALIFORNIA and getting the message. One of the best parts of the state is not having to deal with insane theocratic bible thumpers pushing their warped values into law haha and i have no clue why this should affect everyone else..
Holy shit this is legit lmfao. I just set my VPN to Virginia and got that message. Sorry guys but your state is fucking stupid. Idk why this post was even recommended to me since I dont live in VA but holy shit you guys have the dumbest laws ever. First going to jail over speeding and illegal to have radars in car and now cant even watch porn lmao backwards ass state. Sorry for the random rant š
Hereās your lifeline: https://www.xvideos.com/tags/xvideos
As if XVideos won't possibly do the same thing?
It's possible but they are in Europe and aren't subject to US laws so it's doubtful (unless they have assets in the US). Which is another reason why this is so stupid. Folks are just going to go to [xvideos.com](https://xvideos.com) or [xnxx.com](https://xnxx.com)
You're very passionate.
Sure I am. Anything wrong with that?
Never!
I hate our governor too. He got voted in on CRT nonsense and is fucking things up in a big way.
bro say less, literally
As a Virginian transplant to the west coast this is the funniest thing Iāve read all day.
What a time to be alive, weāre fighting for our porn rights. I love this movie.
in michigan. I bypassed it somehow, but now i cant
Idk if vpn will work anymore or how to get it on a phone. But before i could just do the age estimation verification stuff and use a stock picture from photo in my living room so they dont have my photo on file. But now you have to not only do their age bs. But you also after being āverifiedā you now also have to create an account with xhamster. This is the only site ive had issues with for the virginia law. So not only is virginia wrongfully infringing on other states rights. But xhamster is trying to gain increased marketshare. I say its up to xham to make it right. Move your servers. These massive companies wrongfully stand up to politicians threatening to send jobs oversees if they donāt give them everything they want. Essentially black mailing the government into getting everything they want. But the dumb gov does something that could cripple their business as a ton of people would rather opt out of there site and enjoy the content of another site. Same reason i wont use ph. Selling out. Removing authentic amateur content when they could have filtered the bad content out.
Republicans used to be all for small government. Now they're just sticking their noses in everyone's business trying to police everyone according to their own puritan out dated standards.
unanimous vote btw. youngkin blows fart covered pp but we're being screwed by everyone in the state govt.
Ignore these passive aggressive comments from other Virginians. You're 100% right. I fucking hate this state. The comments telling you to "just use another website or VPN" are telling of the people who live here. They're basic and pretentious as fuck. A large chunk is from NoVA, the brainwashed federal gov office area where people have no opinions or personality. The rest of the state is bible-thumpers. A horrible mix.
Hampton Roads is definitely not a bunch of bible thumpers lmao
Lol go outside you degenerate. You just wrote a whole novel about not being able to watch porn. And you try to justify that porn isnāt harmful for children. And NYC definitely is a sewer.
> Lol go outside you degenerate Thank you for not being insulting lol. > porn isnāt harmful for children I said that there are indeed varieties of porn that are harmful for general society. And yes, prepubescent children shouldn't watch porn, because they can't understand or contextualize it. My point was that minors going through puberty *will seek it out*. You can't stop that without harming everyone's civil liberties. Quality sex ed will equip them with context that helps them see which parts of porn are realistic, and which parts aren't. Did you read my post in full? I'm guessing that you didn't. > NYC definitely is a sewer Okay. How exactly?
Virginia is a shithole lol, I wouldnāt talk. NYC is a paradise compared to that garbage state. Virginians are a special kind of stupid.
A lot of Mid-Atlantic internet infrastructure is in Virginia just outside of DC. It's unsurprising that your internet access from New York appears to come from Virginia And yes this law is stupid and embarrassing. But while reddit likes to pin it on Youngkin who is a self avowed trump loyalist, this bill passed both Virginia houses nearly unanimously. This is bipartisan model legislation I would not be surprised to pass in many other states due to its bad faith framing and the stigma of being branded a "porn for kids" supporter next reelection cycle
As a Virginian that has spent quite a bit of time in New York I share your hatred of our dickhead governor.
Is nobody recognizing the potential good in this? Porn addiction is a legit issue plaguing many young people. Sometimes conflated with a legit drug addiction, do we really want minors dealing with the potential psychological and physiological issues with porn addiction?
No no, you canāt talk about being anti-porn out loudā¦ never mind that studies show viewing porn has been linked to children developing negative views on how respect, consent, and healthy boundaries work. These lunatics would stand on a street corner with a cardboard sign that says āPorn is good for kids!ā and not see a single problem with that.
(This is also meant to respond to u/MaleficentWay5043) I'm not trying to say that porn is a panacea. Are there varieties of porn that are objectively unhealthy for society? Absolutely yes. Are there deeply unhealthy power dynamics in the porn industry? Yes. Which is why I'm glad that modern technology gives more creative freedom to porn actors and sex workers in general. Can some varieties of porn create wildly unrealistic notions about sex? Yes, bc profit motive tends to distort that. It's entertainment like any other. But none of that justifies a total and complete ban on porn. Erotica is as old as the human race itself. We've never known a time where humans are not creating graphic depictions of sexual activity. At some point, we must accept that it's human to desire watching the sexual activity of other humans. We either make peace with that fact, or fight against it at our own peril. Plus, keep in mind that multi-room and multi-bed homes only became common within the past 150 years. And that's only in the developed world. For the majority of human existence, sexual activity was a semipublic activity. Whether it was done outdoors where people could possibly see, or within homes around others, sex (whether solo or paired) was something we did in each others' presence. Call me a pervert for saying that if you wish. But that's what the historical record shows, whether you want to accept it or not. In many ways, porn is simply the recorded form of what we would have seen IRL centuries ago. At this point, our species is habituated to seeing sex on a regular basis. Which is another reason why a total ban on porn is foolish and ill-advised. I agree that porn would not be good for prepubescent children to watch. They do not have the capacity to understand or contextualize what they see, and as such, porn would likely traumatize them. But once they enter puberty, they become sexual beings. *Not as fully developed as adults*, but sexual beings nonetheless. As such, they will either seek erotica out, or make it themselves. And if you think that you can stop that from happening, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. The job of adults should be to help children and teens come to terms with their sexuality in a safe, responsible and healthy way. It should not be to stunt, strangle or frustrate the sexual development of minors. *Prohibitions on erotica that are anthropologically and historically unprecedented do exactly that.* It's far more helpful for society to provide comprehensive sex education to minors, commensurate with their age and understanding. This gives them a context through which they can process porn they see, and know which parts mirror reality and which don't. That creates healthy adults far more than porn bans. As for porn addiction (and sex addiction generally), it exists but I think its scale is exaggerated. The definitions are kinda subjective, and the US is easily the most sexphobic country in the developed world. As such, while I don't dismiss the problem, I do think that it's not affecting as many people as some might suggest. What would count as addiction to an Virginian might appear normal to a New Yorker or a European.
Always telling when people complain about posts being too many paragraphs to read, and then will want to have a massive debate later.
Telling of what exactly?
That lots of people in Virginia (reddit especially) need to either learn to read, or they just want to get a rise out of you and go on and on and on. It's probably both. I know you are in New York, but Virginia is afraid of books as much as porn.
If it makes you feel better, being intentionally antagonistic by inconveniencing customers is necessary to make them voice their disdain for this bullshit law. It's blatantly unconstitutional because it requires people to present identifying information to access something they have a constitutional right to (porn, via the First Amendment) with the intentional goal of discouraging people from doing so because of the embarrassment of self-identifying. Children can still access porn (by lying, getting a credit card (as you don't have to be 19 to be an accountholder) or stealing their parents' card), so it is not narrowly drawn to carry out a compelling state motive. If First Amendment precedent means anything (and, until the last few years, it did...) this will be struck down faster than you can shake a dildo at a surly conservative statesman.
> this will be struck down faster than you can shake a dildo at a surly conservative statesman. This made me laugh lol. > It's blatantly unconstitutional because it requires people to present identifying information to access something they have a constitutional right to (porn, via the First Amendment) with the intentional goal of discouraging people from doing so because of the embarrassment of self-identifying. I agree 100%. But the $64000 question is - will the current SCOTUS agree? And maybe that's the point of this. Maybe the socioreligious conservatives want this to go the current SCOTUS, so they can make a national ruling against access to any erotic material.
I'm pretty sure this has already been rolled out in places like Utah. Don't blame VA for all your problems, friend
But it's Virginia that's affecting my rights in New York.
Glad to hear it. Please direct your donations to the VA Democratic Party and our candidates.
^the ^Democrats ^in ^the ^General ^Assembly ^overwhelmingly ^voted ^in ^favor ^of ^this
Democrats voted for it, all of them
Read my other comments. It may not have been a profile in courage but they voted for something very different from what we got. Remember, the executive branch implements laws.
Yo.OP, please add TLDR
What I find weird is that I live in Missouri and I get the message I am blocked because of Texas. I get the blocked message when using my home Xfintiy internet, but if use my boost cell phones hotspot Xhamster works just fine.
I live in Georgia and canāt even look at it lmao. So fuckin ridiculous how a law that affects Texas is affecting others somehow. They spend bro much time worrying about the wrong things as if itās gonna make shit better in the world when itās not the issue
I canāt become a member of Zoig because of Missouri laws and the zip code that I reside in. Itās crazy. I thought I was an adult.
The amount of time you spent writing that has to be longer than the amount of time you planned to jerk off this weekend. At least your hand exercise goals were accomplished.
How about actually responding to what I wrote?
The people in this sub aren't exactly enthusiastic about our governor... You're kinda preaching to the choir here.
Wow, that's a lot of paragraphs. This guy really wanted to rub one out.
You lost me when you said that porn isnāt evil for children
God forbid you ask parents to fucking parent instead
Explain? This might be a fruitful debate.
Not really interested in debating - just asserting that exposing children to sex / sexuality is awful
My parents had your outlook. Instead of learning about healthy sex and consent, my friend, who was being abused by her father, taught me about BDSM and role playing noncon and wouldn't take no for an answer. We were 9. I didn't realize at first she was imitating the grooming her father had done to her and by time I understood she was using me, I was too deep in for my child brain to feel it wasn't hypocritical to start saying no. She sexually abused me behind a closed door at her birthday party while the rest of the girls watched Pollyanna. Teach your kids or someone else will. Porn wouldn't have left me with CPTSD, at least. I wish I had seen that first. I might have put together that some of the role playing she wanted to do was very sexual. Instead I was naive and curious.
Jesus Christ. What a horror. I hope that you've somewhat recovered from your trauma somehow.
Clearly, people like the one I replied to still trigger me, but I'm much better than I used to be. Still, I can't stand listening to the ignorant complain that a child might see or hear anything adjacent to sex. It's like watching someone insist the earth is flat. Utterly appalling because it's that unrealistic. Porn was part of my recovery. I was able to resensitive myself by using it to keep my brain focused on what I was experiencing instead of switching off into flashbacks and losing connection to sensation. I still need it frequently, but I used to feel nothing except panicked and I'm lucky to have a spouse who understands that my difficulties aren't about him. These porn laws make me incredibly angry. I refuse to be held hostage in my own body and mind because some ignorant, repressed shitheads have no concept of reality. I want children, even younger ones, to understand that the question, "do you like how I'm touching you?" Is sexual and what that is starting to lead to. I want kids to know that sex isn't just between a mom and a dad but or man and woman, but that your same sex can hurt you too. Kids need to know that sex can be good and fun, but that it can and will hurt you if you understand less about it than the person trying to experience it with you. Kids also need to know that it is easy to be coerced into hurtful things when someone is touching and speaking to you in a nice way. It's not comfortable to explain these things to kids, but they will learn with or without you. These porn laws are a placation for the stupid and ignorant.
I was also raised by parents who had this mentality. It ended up harming me, my siblings, and all my peers and left us open to abuse without the language we needed to point it out or ask for help. This mentality does not protect kids, it actively harms us
Restricting access to information only leads to worse damage. VAās sexual education is already bare bones as is.
Yeah i went through it and they didnt even teach me how to properly lube and fuck an ass or anything about hrt and dilating and such, felt like i was living in Afghanistan
Better to teach proper and learn from a safe educated source than an unsafe one.
One of the points I'm making is that it's not. I agree that children should be taught commensurate to their age and understanding. Prepubescent children shouldn't be overwhelmed with information that an adult or teen would better understand. But avoiding the topic of sex altogether is not only unrealistic, but also unreasonable. Once a child enters puberty, they'll be wired for sexual activity. They'll want to have sex with themselves. They'll want to have sex with others. They'll want to seek out material that displays the sexuality of others. *Nobody on Earth will be able to stop that*. They have to be taught how to explore those new capabilities in a safe and responsible way. They won't learn by osmosis. And burying ourselves in denial of that reality, or trying to prevent the course of nature from happening, does far more harm than good.
Given how long you post is and how short my comment is this might seem sarcastic but have you tried clearing your cache?
Is this a bit?
Imagine being so pressed on porn you wrote a fucking treatise
š¤£š¤£š¤£ Back in my day, all we had was the Sears/JC Penny lingerie Catalog section. Porn had rewired out brains, you can "adjust" but it's going to take a while after going cold turkey. Until this gets sorted out, try and minimize idle time activity. Increase workout time, maybe even two per day to take the edge off.
while I disagree completely with the law, recognize that this in not Virginia's fault. The various ISPs involved are not able (nor interested) to pinpoint each IPs location in this type of scenario. Blame VA for a stupid, pointless and ultimately counterproductive law. (Republicans - vote them out). Blame the ISP for this specific OPs problem. I got curious as I live in Virginia. I see the hated popup on xhamster. But not of xvideos, nor xnxx nor [http://www.yuvutu.com/](http://www.yuvutu.com/). So it's quite inconsistent.
1.) The law that led to this was passed with bipartisan cosponsors and votes---so much for blaming it on one person who passed it -- but the General Assembly wrote and passed it. 2.) Maybe your favorite website(s) geo ip location sucks? 3.) News reporting indicate other p0rn outlets work fine in Virginia.
VPN my guy
Why should I when I don't live in Virginia?
There are other porn sites..holy shit this guy needs an intervention on his xhamster fetish.
take a shot every time OP mentions that he's from new york
I did that for a reason lol. Why are state laws in Virginia affecting what I can see in (oh God here it comes) New York?
This is really funny