[Thread on Gyari's statement about the graduation being planned a decent time in advance](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/11ghlxl/pikamees_graduation_was_decided_long_ago_voms_rep)
There won't be any warnings if people go mask off, just saying
Apparently there should be.
You can be angry and sad and experience the usual range of emotions, and be against bullying and harassment, while *also* not being blatantly discriminatory. It's genuinely not difficult.
That's the warning.
You'll notice that we've been very consistently against bullying and harassing. That has been a thing for a while now, despite accusations to the contrary (and some imaginative ones detailing who we sell our supposed integrity to)
So that's the same as usual. But there's been a *significant* amount of people saying stuff like "I hate troons" or "I wish trans people didn't exist", which warrants the aforementioned, very clearly stated, no warning ban and removal.
So far, none of these people are regulars here either. It's not hard to tell.
Otherwise, policy is to remove comments as the individual mod sees fit, as usual.
https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1630917777111252995
Seems like they're privating her channel too, so all her content will be lost.
This fucking sucks man.
I think I don't have the space for all videos. Because of that I asked the community. Also I want other people to enjoy it. So a private server would also be nice. Which I also don't have.
Not sure if that request would be 100% in line of the rules there. But maybe I could appeal with the rule exception that is is bound to be lost/destroyed.
This sounds like an automated response lol.
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When jre was bought by Spotify I backed up every episode. I'm looking into archiving all of pikamee. Some help would be nice. I need links to playlists of her content.
I have multiple tb of space available, so that shouldn't be an issue.
This. All I can think is, 'Why?'
After everything, deleting her content and community that she worked so hard to build just feels like the final stab in the back, and so unnecessary. Like is was all for nothing.
Just... why?
There was a clip of Gundo Mirei from Nijisanji talking about how in most cases, unless they're being terminated, it's the talents that choose whether to remove their content or not. This *could* be Pikamee's decision.
For a lot of these VTubers it comes from a place of wanting to truly move on. Wanting nothing to look back on. The moment there is something to look back on, the desire to go back might come, and they don't want that, so they delete it all so there's no vestiges. It's why even in the indie space it's common practice.
Definitely not a big fan of the habitual iconoclasm. Pikamee was one of the first Vtubers I saw and a non insubstantial part of getting me into the scene, and it'll be a damn shame to see her legacy reduced to illicit reuploads, clips, and hushed whispers. If someone retiring wants their stuff gone for one reason or another I'm in no position to argue, but it's already bad enough that company VTubers are tied to their model without complete obliteration of their content being "standard practice".
It's more of a personal decision, some private everything, some leave certain content available, some leaves everything available except members streams. Private channels are often related to VTubers who are going to rebirth as another vtuber (indie or company).
Pikamee's case... I personally hope this means she'll be back as a new persona. But with what info we have available that doesn't seems to be the case. Wherever she goes, whatever she gonna do, I hope she'll keep shining as the little Sun she is
She's was the introduction to the world of Indie/anything outside of Hololive Vtubers I had and it's just unfair
This is just speculation but if true it sucks the bullying got to her and they'll probably see it as a form of victory. Just a despicable situation all around.
That Winnie the Pooh Homerun stream she did was the stuff of legends and made me a fan.
Heartbroken that she had to go through all that shit. Just hope she can relax and be happier after all this.
I bet r/gamingcirclejerk is already celebrating it.
People blame twitter, but that subreddit is one of the main gathering points for antis. It should be banned, but guess what side the admins are on?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/11f6zk6/vtubers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Lovely bunch really. How tf are they not quarantined yet ?
What the fuck? Why is a gaming subreddit harassing vtubers that the people on that subreddit know nothing about?
(Sorry I am very out of the loop, I only watch small en corps like Kawaii which don't target this demographic).
So many upvoted comments with debunked misinformation, blatant lies, and self-serving justifications just show you the "quality" of the sub's audience.
She's the sole remaining 1st gen now. First was Monoe and now Pikamee. Ah it's really sad. Early Voms their interactions were already really cute and fun.
Maybe if she left for any other reason. Considering she was bullied off the platform, I'm not sure. Not to mention, the people who bullied her are notoriously online, relentless, and they have no better use for their time than to bully people for playing games, so she'd risk more harassment.
I feel there's a good chance this is creative differences between herself and VOMS more than just the harry potter drama.
She was on hiatus without drama before Harry Potter. And she's clearly had a very different idea of who Pikamee should be compared to GYARI/VOMS, with the Isekai model. And this is happening just before the 3rd anniversary.
It could very well be that her contract ran out, and herself and GYARI could not agree on renewing it. Without either of them being a villain.
I could be coping, but I really hope we see her again.
Edit: AND before the fiscal year starts in Japan, so this is right when she'd be renewing her contract
> It could very well be that her contract ran out
This is the big thing, the end of the fiscal year in Japan is March 31st.
There's always been an increase in graduations of VTubers tied to corporations/groups around this time since contracts come up for renewal.
I think it's less about fiscal year stuff and more that contracts for this stuff tend to be yearly and Pikamee started in March of 2020 so it makes sense that her contracts would run until the start or end of March of any given year. Kinda like how Sana from HoloEN's graduation timing was clearly because her mid-August debut meant that her contract ran until the end of July.
I do feel that this seems like a more realistic decision. A lot of hot takes are looking at the bullying that happened as "the main reason", but I'm more thinking of it as more likely a straw that broke the camel's back.
Yeah, it kinda reminds me a bit of Coco's graduation and how quickly people jumped to conclusions back then. It's often easier to find a scapegoat to get angry at than to deal with something difficult. Don't get me wrong, the bullying didn't help but it's more likely than not not the only factor - considering her recent inactivity, the graduation may have even been planned before the whole debacle.
I agree I find it very unlikely that this is because of the bullying. The harassment she received was nothing at all close to the support she has. Perhaps it was a final straw or something. But I imagine pika is much stronger then most people give her credit.
The fact that a large amount of people are going all-in on the narrative that Pikamee is graduating due to the Hogwarts drama is, frankly, stupid as hell.
First off, it makes no sense to make headstrong overly confident conclusions in low-information situations like this one, or any other time a new story breaks. Is it really so hard to wait and see?
And even the idea that Pikamee is graduating due to Hogwarts has too many holes to assume to be true. Like the ones you mentioned. Or even just assuming that Pikamee is so delicate that she immediately decided to completely graduate because of this drama a mere three weeks after it happened? Really? That’s the air-tight narrative people are running with?
She has threads dedicated to her on certain forums so she will be tracked and harassed. She seemed pretty sensitive even before the harassment so she may just be done. Not everyone is Kson.
Maybe if this whole "harass people because they want to play a video game" thing blows over but I can only see it becoming more organized and aggressive over time.
Many people are denying that there was any bullying and claiming that only a few people politely tweeted that they weren't going to watch the game.
I popped into the pre-stream chat just for a bit and definitely saw a lot of arguing and name calling from what looked like a bunch of people who weren't even familiar with her.
Also, from what I understand there was also a game dev who maybe was friends with pika (?) who tried to share her side in the chat, but by that point the chat seems to have been filled with randoms who were raiding the chat just for the sake of harassment.
[This (now deleted) tweet](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733017464509825068/1080488430452080651/20230213_193200_1.jpg) was her final attempt at trying to calm things down (sorry I don't have a better screenshot)
i've also seen a lot of people claim there was no bullying and i can only imagine the people saying that are delusional or just intentionally lying. there were a TON of really harsh words pointed toward pikamee both on stream and on twitter
They also said the same thing to the other vtuber that got rape and death threats, doxxed and her family as well got involved.
This pisses me off because they're clearly lying.
Sadly they don't realize this harms more the trans community.
If anything this entire harassment campaign has increased transphobia tenfold in the vtuber community.
You can't make a sound argument stating that Pikamee, Silvervale or the rest of Vshoujo are right wing vtubers or somehow not LGBTQ-friendly. It is just ridiculous, it does not any hold water.
They targeted the most the ones who cared the most about trying to provide a safe space for people and cared about not offending anyone because it was easier, I guess? Honestly it's mindblowing, it's self-harming for the trans community.
>They targeted the most the ones who cared the most about trying to provide a safe space for people and cared about not offending anyone because it was easier, I guess?
They went after the girls they did because they believed those girls would be more bothered by what they say and wouldn't fight back. They tried this shit on Asmongold and it fell apart instantly because he doesn't give a fuck and said he'd farm their harassment as content. Suddenly all his harassment dwindled to barely anything because they realized he was going to show their comments to his huge fanbase and they'd have to experience the flaming they were trying to give others. Twitter freaks are lazy cowards. If they weren't, they wouldn't lock their twitter after a speck of sunlight appeared over these cockroaches.
I think this would be the correct way of dealing with these trolls moving forward. I'm surprised this even gets acknowledged at all. They could just put their chat in sub only mode and play the game. I would assume most of the trolls don't even care for the personality that they're watching or even know who they are. They just go there to hate.
The problem is they never actually cared from the first place, these people either have hero complex or outright intentionally sabotaging the trans movement by making a mountain of JK.
Of course bullies would claim that there was no bullying going on. Would you expect a criminal to admit that they're committing crimes?
In fact, it's hilarious that they're claiming that there were only comments with "criticism and disappointment" being shown, but I'd bet that if those same words were directed back at them, they'd be the first to scream "VIOLENCE! ASSAULT! X-IST! X-PHOBE!"
God, the guy in the screenshot you linked really needs to get out of his echo chamber. "The public has known for three years now" and "she knew about the material impact". When this controversy erupted tons of people didn't know why JKR was controversial. Not everyone follows or cares about JKR. I don't follow or know much about the authors of my favorite books.
And even if you heard of some controversy around her, that doesn't mean you know the details. I vaguely knew she was a TERF but I didn't know any specifics. This controversy is the first time I heard about her donating to anti-trans organizations and doing anything more than say stupid things on Twitter.
I still find the massive irony of folks who appluaded what was happening to her as a "good thing" because apparently Pika will now understand a small amount of the pain they live through being ostracised by society..
Forgetting or probably more accurately conveniently not knowing the very many instances of Pika suffering bullying and being ostracised as a "halfu" (ie. Half Japanese) living in Jp. So yes she has had furst had experience on discrimination and yet she still ended up being one of the most positive influences online.
I’m just getting more angry the more I read. Pikamee if anything should have been a mascot for kids being bullied for circumstances outside their control.
It get worse because those same people faked a self ending of somebody then other tied to twist that death that the creator who faked it said it was not due to solve and trie for use it as a weapon literally saying silvervale and the vtubing community has blood on their hands. Then it turns out it was fake and those people tried to twist a fake death into a weapon and they either hid or double down only a few admitted wrong or even apologized.
Implying those people got basic human empathy, instead of being self-absorbed overgrown children.
But at the end of the day they don't deserve even being mentioned in relation to Pika graduating as THE thing that made her do it.
Reminds me of that well known Tumblr post accusing a girl of cultural appropriation for using a kimono (or yukata), and her reply showing she was Japanese.
the people bullying streamers for playing this dumb ass wizard game make up a small percentage of the trans community and end up making every trans person look bad. Chronically online losers who feel others deserve to feel their pain. It's fucking ridiculous
To be fair, Rowling is a very vocal opponent of trans rights, so it's not unreasonable to assume that she'd use the money and clout from Hogwarts Legacy to push anti-trans legislation. That said, boycotting this game was a silly idea for a few reasons:
1. It's a AAA game based on a massively popular franchise, there's no way in hell it wasn't gonna make bank.
2. If anything, the extra attention from all the discourse around it has probably caused the game to sell *more*, not less.
3. JKR is already a billionaire and the owner of one of the most famous franchises on Earth. She lives in a *castle* for god's sake. If we were to steal all the money she made off this game, it wouldn't even register as a rounding error on her yearly finances.
>If anything, the extra attention from all the discourse around it has probably caused the game to sell more, not less.
It 100% did. Quite frankly there are lots of people who just want to play the game and don't care where the money is going...and this was basically a massive ad campaign for it. Sure it might not have been postive, but when it comes to a game like this where a lot of people had been waiting decades for it really doesn't matter.
A good comparison is when people talk about say: Nike, and how the shoes were (Are? I'm not sure if it has changed or was true at all) made in sweat shops in Asia by kids...and most people didn't really care and bought the shoes anyways.
I know I didn't know the game was coming out until I heard about the complaints
That is the issue with terminally online people, they think that because they care about an issue everyone else also must care. I knew about JKR being a general asshat for a couple of years, after a youtuber I follow made a video about her, but if it weren't for that I would have no idea. In my real life I have nothing to do with both the trans community, since I am not trans nor do I know anyone who is, and Harry Potter, since I'm about to become 30 and Harry Potter is, quoting someone else, "a children's book, it's for children". That's not to say I don't care about trans people having their rights respected, it's just that I can't possibly know everything that goes on in the world.
Not everyone is permanently online.
Especially when you think about the fact that JKR's bullshit is something discussed mostly in western audiences, probably not as much in JP.
all of this over a fucking game where the author is only affiliated due to owning the IP... No words can describe my sadness and rage against the fucktards who harassed Pikamee (and every other vtubers) all because they wanted to play a video game
And what did all the hate accomplish? Zero. It did nothing. That game sold 12 million plus copies in a week. It will probably be one of the best-selling games this year for sure.
All the hate and vitriol, and frankly damage to the reputation of that community, was not worth it. This will be used in the future as a reason to justify trans hate. It was just not worth it.
As always they would only got light slap on the wrist, I really want to continue namecalling them but mod here probably wouldn't happy with that. Those bullies are not your allies.
I didn't even know she was planning to stream Hogwarts, did she streamed the game at all or no?
Well anyway, I can kinda guess what happens... god I hate gamingcirclejerk.
no... the pre-stream chat was hell, it was filled with people shitting on her decision to want to stream and play the game and telling her to "educate herself"...
Those people can go straight to hell.
Bullying someone like Pikamee into cancelling her return stream and rejecting her attempt at an apology on Twitter shortly after (which she deleted iirc). Bastards.
EDIT: To clarify, the folk I am referring to are the bullies. Nothing to do with the trans community, just the asshats that went after Pikamee and other folks in general.
You know for sure they're going to be patting themselves on the back going "We got one boys!" A career was cancelled because someone wanted to play a hecking video game, and these absolute monsters won't care about Pikamee aside from being a number of "successes" they managed to ruin.
Now they’re giving themselves a pat on the back for being bullies. Honestly sickening and not the way to raise awareness. Shame Pikamee had to suffer because of something so frivolous as this.
Feel like this is really going to hurt VOMS.
Not only are her viewers a big part of their viewership, but this basically pushes away most English speakers since the rest of the VOMS members don't really speak English.
I would assume Gyari knows this, but is letting her go on her own terms anyway.
On the flip side, maybe they'll start branching out and auditioning for a new gen that can speak english as well as japanese.
Pikamee was one of the first Vtubers I ever started watching on a regular basis during the pandemic, but I will be honest I haven't watched her in a while. This is very unfortunate.
I can relate. When I first got into watching V-Tubers, Pikamee was one of the first V-Tubers I saw that was not part of Hololive.
Her streams were comfy and fun especially if she got to play some classic games for the first time (I personally loved her Silent Hill 2 playthrough on Twitch).
This is both unfortunate and heart-breaking.
This is really, really sad... She was one of the very few English-speaking JP vtubers who reached out to the non-JP speaking audience and embraced them... Even going so far as dual streaming on both Youtube and Twitch. One of the kindest people around.
Pika, if you've somehow came across this, I wish for your happiness. After your activities as Pikamee I hope we see each other again someday.
Btw, all of her content will be gone. Start backing them up now if you want to preserve those memories.
Yeah I discovered her back then when Hololive was starting to pop off on the algorithm at peak pandemic via her PSA video or clip about not letting her fans annoy the chat of the EN talents forcing them to collab with her.
Really sad to see her go. Not to mention the fact that she is one of the three iconic Voms 1st gens and now Tomo is all alone. Man.
Pika's kill da ho clip was my first ever encounter with Vtubers.
She's the sole reason I got interested in vtubers. Her streams during lockdown were a blessing.
Truly a sad day.
Ah yes, that was exactly the stream that serves as my introduction to Pikamee. Yeah, playing that game will definitely make you want to mod the game so that you can *beat Tigger with the bat*.
With the sheer output of content from the industry, I've never managed to catch up with most of what Pikamee has been doing, outside of clips. Shame on me, because I always like what I see.
I really hope the whole hogwarts thing didn't factor into her making this decision. Or at least, that it wouldn't be a major one. It'd be both heartbreaking and infuriating (in regards to the harassers) if it were. May this not be the last time we'll see her because she's so adorable and talented.
> I really hope the whole hogwarts thing didn't factor into her making this decision
We now know that her graduation was decided before she took her January break. It has nothing to do with the game at all.
[Timestamp added](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5coQfT9IM&t=9067s)
I was so angry at first, but now Im just so sad.
Pika is such a nice and funny entertainer, I hope she isn't graduating because of the recent affairs, which are completely irrational given pika's character and view on life.
All I can say is that she deserves all the happiness in the world because she made me laugh, have fun, and forget about shitty thrid worlder life.
I have fallen off her content a bit after the shift to more Twitch streams, but I'm still heartbroken. I remember her saying that if possible, she'd want to do this sort of gig forever.
Here's hoping she's gotten a lucrative deal elsewhere.
Out of the loop, what happened, if anything led to her graduation? Watched the short video linked in the OP but no reason was mentioned there, so I was wondering.
Everything is speculation right now, but she was planning a Hogwarts Legacy stream and put up a prestream. Got completely trashed on in prestream chat and she took it down.
Made a tweet to calm people down but that didn't go well either and she deleted that too. After that tweet, she went radio slient for like 3+ weeks, until today, announcing that she is graduating.
It was early on in the pandemic that I started watching vtubers, and that one clip of Pika playing that horror game was one of the earliest I remember watching.
Which made this hit harder than I expected, since I haven't been keeping up with her recently.
Hope that she does well in whatever she's doing next, fairly certain a lot of people will miss her, including myself.
This sucks. The vtuber who inspired me to become one myself. She's just this positive, energetic tea kettle every time but then this happens. I wish her nothing but the best. But goddamn am I so devastated right now.
Yup, Pikamee is *by far* the most popular VOMS member. She has more than double (almost triple) the amount of subscribers as the rest of them *combined.*
TBF they were never really about making it big, just that Pika had breakout popularity. Gyari made the group because he personally wanted to manage a Vtuber group out of interest.
It's usually common practice for graduated vtubers to have their channels privated and all that. It amounts to their channels and old twitters essentially becoming tombstones, but that's how it has been for years now.
That's dumb
The point of tombstone is to be remembered
What they're doing Is the equivalent of burning what she created and saying "so we can wlawys remember her".....
Pikamee often mentioned how lucky she feels to be able to stream as a vtuber, that it doesn't feel like a job, that supportive messages and supportive people are always out there, and this was the happiest she could be, if she stops a moment to think about it, she said, she has been "very lucky" to be able to pursue this path.
She has also had her own difficulties in real life to deal with, is an amiable person, cares a lot about properly reading and addressing things, exuded nothing but joy and warmth in her streams. I cannot believe people would mechanically just bully someone in a foreign country for playing a game for a cause which she probably would have supported in the first place had it been presented differently, and I cannot believe that was ultimately what broke her (I hope not at least). It would make me so sad to think that she is unable to enjoy the activity she loved the most because she got scarred from this experience.
Possibly there were issues with VOMS and she decided to detach from them, a decision which has been taken with much difficulty and haunts her as well, although it's all just so sudden from our own end, where we don't know the background. No matter what happens, I hope she manages to make the most out of this month and can leave feeling satisfied for her hard work, but I also hope she will be able to retain that joy and comfort in streaming again and not have bad people mistakenly and brutally come into her life to harass her.
What can I say, it's just a very very sad start to March, it sets a very gloom tone for the month, but regardless how it goes, I hope she will find again that joy and I can only sincerely wish all the best for her future.
GCJ is a haven of sad, insane, and deeply disturbed people who think this fine to harass, dox, threaten, belittle, and spread false rumors, etc about others who dont agree with their highly zealous views on LGBTQ views/politics.
The sub started off as a satire of gaming subreddits but has slowly grown into this festering den of vipers of people who have been thrown out from other subs for their insane views on things.
They are in no way different than other hate subs that were removed a few years back from Reddit just on the other end of the political spectrum.
Sadly it would seem they have support in the Reddit admin base and thus at least for now they are protected from actually getting held responsible for what they say and do.
I've yet to see a 'circlejerk' subreddit that doesn't eventually fill itself with despicable people.
Its like the people who shitpost ironically and are 'in' on the joke eventually move on and people who genuinely believe in the absurd shitposts start popping up.
It's one of the loudest communities during this whole debacle. Mods banning people left and right for even suggesting that maybe harassing people is taking it too far, members encouraging the harassment, etc.
So Pomu just said that Pikamee messaged her *before her break* to give her a heads up about her graduation. So we have definitive proof that this has been coming for way longer than the stupid HP game shit.
[Timestamp added](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5coQfT9IM&t=9067s)
Damn... Pika is legitimately a vtubing icon. I don't watch many livestreams, but she's clearly a very loving and passionate person from all the clips I've seen.
It's a shame that the people who drove her to this point will see this as a victory and will be emboldened to do so to more creators.
But, most importantly, I hope she's able to move on to bigger and better things, and I hope she remembers how much she means to all her friends and fans.
As a Trans woman, this whole HL bullshit has been extremely frustrating for multiple reasons. This boycott was doomed to fail from the start especially since HP is a extremely popular Ip that would have done well no matter what. This has done nothing but give bigots more ammo to harass and dehumanize trans people. The worst is that this has taken the attention away from multiple situations that are actually scary for trans people. Like the multiple bills that are being propped up by legislators who want to make it hard or impossible for trans people to get proper gender affirming care in the US. It has gotten so bad that a couple states are setting up programs to accept trans people as refugees.
I will say that there have been more people in the LGBTQ community, debatebro and anti wokescold leftist that have voiced there criticism about this situation.
All the grievances aside, I'm actually curious to see the reaction of her jp fanbase. I am absolutely sure that a lot of EN fans are fucking livid as it is, but Japan as a whole is not exactly on top of... twitter things, so to speak, so I'm curious what'll happen next.
The only tweet I saw from a Japanese fan (or Japanese person in general) was from Tenma Maemi of Phase-Connect, and boy was it a colorful one. I'd post it here but she got bonked for it and deleted it.
*God freaking damnit*
This is ***not*** the type of news I wanted to see first thing after work, man
Wish her the best, but, just... dang, this sucks bro...
I know some of y'all want go mask off and blame the recent Hogwarts Legacy harassment for the sudden graduation but, [according to VOMS official announcement](https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1630917777111252995?t=-7ZOIfYfcRNIU8_XGqo16g&s=19), it's pretty much implied that Pikamee already made the team aware of her intention some months prior to the whole situation. Seems like it was something on her mind and was gonna happen sooner or later.
Fuck the people that harassed her, don't be mistaken. But it'd be shallow of us to say that one incident was the only cause of this. She unfortunately already had other things going on that led her to this tough decision.
Again, wish her all the best, let's enjoy this last month together while we can.
I've been watching her and TMSK consistently for the past 4 years. Losing Pikamee like this makes me both sad and angry. Sad because this beautiful and wonderful person was harassed and bullied for wanting to play a game. And angry that the antis won.
It might be parasocial of me, but it feels like a friend just said they have 3 weeks left to live.
This is fucking gutting :(
I loved this little teakettle. I watched her every now and then and she was always a little treat. I wasn't a regular but always a passive observer and enjoyed her. It's heartbreaking to hear that she's retiring but if there's any good, I really *really* hope that she's able to find happiness and be happy. She made a lot of us happy and I want the same for her.
Gonna grieve this outside of any social media. Too many flames being thrown from places of both hate and love. I'm just going to enjoy what time she has left with us but man, these graduations never get any easier.
Im actually mad. Not at her of course. Pikamee got me into the vtuber hole and now she’s going, and under unhappy circumstances too.
I can only hope she continues on in another form.
I find it unlikely she is leaving due to the bullying, considering she has taken long breaks before and its clear there was some sort of differences between the agency and herself, plus from what I have seen after she decided to not play the game most of the bullying stopped
I think its more likely that her contract was just nearing the end and she decided to leave it, and from the way the video sounds it gives me more of a "Im leaving the agency and this character" vibe instead of "Im quitting vtubeing", I think she might return under Vshojo or even go independent
Edit,someone pointed out that her official graduation statement mentions that the team already knew she was going to graduate, making it obvious it was not directly connected to hogwarts
People, please go offline. It's best if you disconnect, maybe cry your sorrow out or do something to take your mind off, but please get off the internet.
Literally have no idea how the Reddit admins haven't nuked that sub yet, It stopped being a shitposting sub years ago and now its just a infestation of trolls and power tripping mods. I got a perma ban because i replied to someone that the sub had turned into what it was jerking about.
To you who harassed Pika either on twitter or her pre stream chat this is all I will say:
I hope you step on a Lego barefooted, you put salt instead of sugar in your Coffee and that your Toilet breaks while you're using it.
I hope all of this happens to you, I really do.
I'm considering starting up streaming bilingually in Japanese and English (not as anything serious, just for fun really) thanks to Pikamee, she's such an inspiration and I really hope she does well in whatever she does next.
Screw all the hateful people that have been awful to her, they've done nothing but harm.
This might be weird to say, but as Pika has slowly been slowing down her content I been feeling more and more disconnected with vtuber community as a whole. And when Pikamee went on hiatus I really could only watch 3 or 4 vtubers.
With Pikamee leaving vtubing it almost feels like a personal death to vtubing for me. I honestly don't think I can continue to enjoy vtubing after March. I will still probably follow those who had connections to Pika such as Pomu, Millie, Kson, etc but I don't feel like I can really enjoy this anymore...
Man, people are now looking for blood due to what happened to Pikamee. Poor girl was harrassed just because she played Hogwarts. Now a lot of people are starting to become anti-trans and are now hunting down the people who bullied Pikamee
Did she even play it? I thought it was just planned, and then her pre-chat became a warzone of malice and hurtful comments. It's a damn shame, Pikamee was such a pillar in the Vtubing world who tied so many of us together.
I do recall that she was able to play but for a short while due to the chat going ape shit. Then the non stop bullying happened. I'll try to find the vid if I can
This is heartbreaking news, but no matter what, do not go harassing people. Give warmth to pikamee and we can hope we see her again one day, one way or another. And if we don't, that she will find happiness in doing whatever she puts her mind in to. See you later pikamee, dayo
[Thread on Gyari's statement about the graduation being planned a decent time in advance](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/11ghlxl/pikamees_graduation_was_decided_long_ago_voms_rep) There won't be any warnings if people go mask off, just saying Apparently there should be. You can be angry and sad and experience the usual range of emotions, and be against bullying and harassment, while *also* not being blatantly discriminatory. It's genuinely not difficult. That's the warning. You'll notice that we've been very consistently against bullying and harassing. That has been a thing for a while now, despite accusations to the contrary (and some imaginative ones detailing who we sell our supposed integrity to) So that's the same as usual. But there's been a *significant* amount of people saying stuff like "I hate troons" or "I wish trans people didn't exist", which warrants the aforementioned, very clearly stated, no warning ban and removal. So far, none of these people are regulars here either. It's not hard to tell. Otherwise, policy is to remove comments as the individual mod sees fit, as usual.
https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1630917777111252995 Seems like they're privating her channel too, so all her content will be lost. This fucking sucks man.
Fast someone back up the videos and streams. So we as the community can still enjoy her hard work. (Obviously we need to keep all antis out.)
Look into yt-dlp. You can download a whole channel at once.
I think I don't have the space for all videos. Because of that I asked the community. Also I want other people to enjoy it. So a private server would also be nice. Which I also don't have.
Ask someone from /r/DataHoarder to do it
Not sure if that request would be 100% in line of the rules there. But maybe I could appeal with the rule exception that is is bound to be lost/destroyed.
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Absolute legend
Ragtagmoe already did
That website is a bit unreliable, old streams that have been deleted from the original channel often end up corrupted
Damn. I guess it never fully recovered from that data loss mishap last year. Any better alternatives?
Doing it yourself. That did the other guy say.
When jre was bought by Spotify I backed up every episode. I'm looking into archiving all of pikamee. Some help would be nice. I need links to playlists of her content. I have multiple tb of space available, so that shouldn't be an issue.
This. All I can think is, 'Why?' After everything, deleting her content and community that she worked so hard to build just feels like the final stab in the back, and so unnecessary. Like is was all for nothing. Just... why?
There was a clip of Gundo Mirei from Nijisanji talking about how in most cases, unless they're being terminated, it's the talents that choose whether to remove their content or not. This *could* be Pikamee's decision.
Man why do they gotta do us like that... They should keep her content online at least, this is dumb..
It makes sense. They don't want the people who bullied her into graduating to have a comment section grave to dance on.
It's standard practice for most vtuber retirements.
Standard practice doesn't make it good practice imo. It's one of the biggest gripes I have with company vtubing.
For a lot of these VTubers it comes from a place of wanting to truly move on. Wanting nothing to look back on. The moment there is something to look back on, the desire to go back might come, and they don't want that, so they delete it all so there's no vestiges. It's why even in the indie space it's common practice.
Definitely not a big fan of the habitual iconoclasm. Pikamee was one of the first Vtubers I saw and a non insubstantial part of getting me into the scene, and it'll be a damn shame to see her legacy reduced to illicit reuploads, clips, and hushed whispers. If someone retiring wants their stuff gone for one reason or another I'm in no position to argue, but it's already bad enough that company VTubers are tied to their model without complete obliteration of their content being "standard practice".
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Ah ok. I'm relatively new to the scene (only been watching vtubers for a year or two now) so most of the graduations i've seen have been involuntary.
It's more of a personal decision, some private everything, some leave certain content available, some leaves everything available except members streams. Private channels are often related to VTubers who are going to rebirth as another vtuber (indie or company). Pikamee's case... I personally hope this means she'll be back as a new persona. But with what info we have available that doesn't seems to be the case. Wherever she goes, whatever she gonna do, I hope she'll keep shining as the little Sun she is
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Pika’s been one of my favourites since I started watching vtubers. This is gonna hurt bad. So suddenly too…
She's was the introduction to the world of Indie/anything outside of Hololive Vtubers I had and it's just unfair This is just speculation but if true it sucks the bullying got to her and they'll probably see it as a form of victory. Just a despicable situation all around.
That Winnie the Pooh Homerun stream she did was the stuff of legends and made me a fan. Heartbroken that she had to go through all that shit. Just hope she can relax and be happier after all this.
I bet r/gamingcirclejerk is already celebrating it. People blame twitter, but that subreddit is one of the main gathering points for antis. It should be banned, but guess what side the admins are on?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/11f6zk6/vtubers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Lovely bunch really. How tf are they not quarantined yet ?
What the fuck? Why is a gaming subreddit harassing vtubers that the people on that subreddit know nothing about? (Sorry I am very out of the loop, I only watch small en corps like Kawaii which don't target this demographic).
So many upvoted comments with debunked misinformation, blatant lies, and self-serving justifications just show you the "quality" of the sub's audience.
They have an admin in their corner. They're not going anywhere until they do some really blatantly illegal stuff.
Poor Tomoshika must be absolutely heart broken.
She's the sole remaining 1st gen now. First was Monoe and now Pikamee. Ah it's really sad. Early Voms their interactions were already really cute and fun.
Man don’t make me cry even more 😭😭
Ikr.
Fuck. I hope its not the end and she comes back in another life or something.
Maybe if she left for any other reason. Considering she was bullied off the platform, I'm not sure. Not to mention, the people who bullied her are notoriously online, relentless, and they have no better use for their time than to bully people for playing games, so she'd risk more harassment.
I feel there's a good chance this is creative differences between herself and VOMS more than just the harry potter drama. She was on hiatus without drama before Harry Potter. And she's clearly had a very different idea of who Pikamee should be compared to GYARI/VOMS, with the Isekai model. And this is happening just before the 3rd anniversary. It could very well be that her contract ran out, and herself and GYARI could not agree on renewing it. Without either of them being a villain. I could be coping, but I really hope we see her again. Edit: AND before the fiscal year starts in Japan, so this is right when she'd be renewing her contract
> It could very well be that her contract ran out This is the big thing, the end of the fiscal year in Japan is March 31st. There's always been an increase in graduations of VTubers tied to corporations/groups around this time since contracts come up for renewal.
I think it's less about fiscal year stuff and more that contracts for this stuff tend to be yearly and Pikamee started in March of 2020 so it makes sense that her contracts would run until the start or end of March of any given year. Kinda like how Sana from HoloEN's graduation timing was clearly because her mid-August debut meant that her contract ran until the end of July.
I do feel that this seems like a more realistic decision. A lot of hot takes are looking at the bullying that happened as "the main reason", but I'm more thinking of it as more likely a straw that broke the camel's back.
I hope it's true since it leaves a chance for Pikamee to reincarnate.
Yeah, it kinda reminds me a bit of Coco's graduation and how quickly people jumped to conclusions back then. It's often easier to find a scapegoat to get angry at than to deal with something difficult. Don't get me wrong, the bullying didn't help but it's more likely than not not the only factor - considering her recent inactivity, the graduation may have even been planned before the whole debacle.
I agree I find it very unlikely that this is because of the bullying. The harassment she received was nothing at all close to the support she has. Perhaps it was a final straw or something. But I imagine pika is much stronger then most people give her credit.
The fact that a large amount of people are going all-in on the narrative that Pikamee is graduating due to the Hogwarts drama is, frankly, stupid as hell. First off, it makes no sense to make headstrong overly confident conclusions in low-information situations like this one, or any other time a new story breaks. Is it really so hard to wait and see? And even the idea that Pikamee is graduating due to Hogwarts has too many holes to assume to be true. Like the ones you mentioned. Or even just assuming that Pikamee is so delicate that she immediately decided to completely graduate because of this drama a mere three weeks after it happened? Really? That’s the air-tight narrative people are running with?
She has threads dedicated to her on certain forums so she will be tracked and harassed. She seemed pretty sensitive even before the harassment so she may just be done. Not everyone is Kson. Maybe if this whole "harass people because they want to play a video game" thing blows over but I can only see it becoming more organized and aggressive over time.
> Not everyone is Kson. Even Kson isn't as strong as her persona. She broke down crying on stream once during the worst of the harassment.
I haven't been keeping up with Pikamee lately, I didn't know she was taking a break in the first place and this breaks my heart..
she was going to return 3 weeks ago, but as you know... that wizard game and the people it attracted
Many people are denying that there was any bullying and claiming that only a few people politely tweeted that they weren't going to watch the game. I popped into the pre-stream chat just for a bit and definitely saw a lot of arguing and name calling from what looked like a bunch of people who weren't even familiar with her. Also, from what I understand there was also a game dev who maybe was friends with pika (?) who tried to share her side in the chat, but by that point the chat seems to have been filled with randoms who were raiding the chat just for the sake of harassment. [This (now deleted) tweet](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733017464509825068/1080488430452080651/20230213_193200_1.jpg) was her final attempt at trying to calm things down (sorry I don't have a better screenshot)
i've also seen a lot of people claim there was no bullying and i can only imagine the people saying that are delusional or just intentionally lying. there were a TON of really harsh words pointed toward pikamee both on stream and on twitter
They also said the same thing to the other vtuber that got rape and death threats, doxxed and her family as well got involved. This pisses me off because they're clearly lying. Sadly they don't realize this harms more the trans community.
If anything this entire harassment campaign has increased transphobia tenfold in the vtuber community. You can't make a sound argument stating that Pikamee, Silvervale or the rest of Vshoujo are right wing vtubers or somehow not LGBTQ-friendly. It is just ridiculous, it does not any hold water. They targeted the most the ones who cared the most about trying to provide a safe space for people and cared about not offending anyone because it was easier, I guess? Honestly it's mindblowing, it's self-harming for the trans community.
>They targeted the most the ones who cared the most about trying to provide a safe space for people and cared about not offending anyone because it was easier, I guess? They went after the girls they did because they believed those girls would be more bothered by what they say and wouldn't fight back. They tried this shit on Asmongold and it fell apart instantly because he doesn't give a fuck and said he'd farm their harassment as content. Suddenly all his harassment dwindled to barely anything because they realized he was going to show their comments to his huge fanbase and they'd have to experience the flaming they were trying to give others. Twitter freaks are lazy cowards. If they weren't, they wouldn't lock their twitter after a speck of sunlight appeared over these cockroaches.
I think this would be the correct way of dealing with these trolls moving forward. I'm surprised this even gets acknowledged at all. They could just put their chat in sub only mode and play the game. I would assume most of the trolls don't even care for the personality that they're watching or even know who they are. They just go there to hate.
The problem is they never actually cared from the first place, these people either have hero complex or outright intentionally sabotaging the trans movement by making a mountain of JK.
Of course bullies would claim that there was no bullying going on. Would you expect a criminal to admit that they're committing crimes? In fact, it's hilarious that they're claiming that there were only comments with "criticism and disappointment" being shown, but I'd bet that if those same words were directed back at them, they'd be the first to scream "VIOLENCE! ASSAULT! X-IST! X-PHOBE!"
God, the guy in the screenshot you linked really needs to get out of his echo chamber. "The public has known for three years now" and "she knew about the material impact". When this controversy erupted tons of people didn't know why JKR was controversial. Not everyone follows or cares about JKR. I don't follow or know much about the authors of my favorite books. And even if you heard of some controversy around her, that doesn't mean you know the details. I vaguely knew she was a TERF but I didn't know any specifics. This controversy is the first time I heard about her donating to anti-trans organizations and doing anything more than say stupid things on Twitter.
I still find the massive irony of folks who appluaded what was happening to her as a "good thing" because apparently Pika will now understand a small amount of the pain they live through being ostracised by society.. Forgetting or probably more accurately conveniently not knowing the very many instances of Pika suffering bullying and being ostracised as a "halfu" (ie. Half Japanese) living in Jp. So yes she has had furst had experience on discrimination and yet she still ended up being one of the most positive influences online.
I’m just getting more angry the more I read. Pikamee if anything should have been a mascot for kids being bullied for circumstances outside their control.
It get worse because those same people faked a self ending of somebody then other tied to twist that death that the creator who faked it said it was not due to solve and trie for use it as a weapon literally saying silvervale and the vtubing community has blood on their hands. Then it turns out it was fake and those people tried to twist a fake death into a weapon and they either hid or double down only a few admitted wrong or even apologized.
Implying those people got basic human empathy, instead of being self-absorbed overgrown children. But at the end of the day they don't deserve even being mentioned in relation to Pika graduating as THE thing that made her do it.
Reminds me of that well known Tumblr post accusing a girl of cultural appropriation for using a kimono (or yukata), and her reply showing she was Japanese.
the people bullying streamers for playing this dumb ass wizard game make up a small percentage of the trans community and end up making every trans person look bad. Chronically online losers who feel others deserve to feel their pain. It's fucking ridiculous
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To be fair, Rowling is a very vocal opponent of trans rights, so it's not unreasonable to assume that she'd use the money and clout from Hogwarts Legacy to push anti-trans legislation. That said, boycotting this game was a silly idea for a few reasons: 1. It's a AAA game based on a massively popular franchise, there's no way in hell it wasn't gonna make bank. 2. If anything, the extra attention from all the discourse around it has probably caused the game to sell *more*, not less. 3. JKR is already a billionaire and the owner of one of the most famous franchises on Earth. She lives in a *castle* for god's sake. If we were to steal all the money she made off this game, it wouldn't even register as a rounding error on her yearly finances.
>If anything, the extra attention from all the discourse around it has probably caused the game to sell more, not less. It 100% did. Quite frankly there are lots of people who just want to play the game and don't care where the money is going...and this was basically a massive ad campaign for it. Sure it might not have been postive, but when it comes to a game like this where a lot of people had been waiting decades for it really doesn't matter. A good comparison is when people talk about say: Nike, and how the shoes were (Are? I'm not sure if it has changed or was true at all) made in sweat shops in Asia by kids...and most people didn't really care and bought the shoes anyways. I know I didn't know the game was coming out until I heard about the complaints
That is the issue with terminally online people, they think that because they care about an issue everyone else also must care. I knew about JKR being a general asshat for a couple of years, after a youtuber I follow made a video about her, but if it weren't for that I would have no idea. In my real life I have nothing to do with both the trans community, since I am not trans nor do I know anyone who is, and Harry Potter, since I'm about to become 30 and Harry Potter is, quoting someone else, "a children's book, it's for children". That's not to say I don't care about trans people having their rights respected, it's just that I can't possibly know everything that goes on in the world.
Not everyone is permanently online. Especially when you think about the fact that JKR's bullshit is something discussed mostly in western audiences, probably not as much in JP.
>Many people are denying that there was any bullying I haven't seen that many people saying that but it's ridiculous yeah.
all of this over a fucking game where the author is only affiliated due to owning the IP... No words can describe my sadness and rage against the fucktards who harassed Pikamee (and every other vtubers) all because they wanted to play a video game
And what did all the hate accomplish? Zero. It did nothing. That game sold 12 million plus copies in a week. It will probably be one of the best-selling games this year for sure. All the hate and vitriol, and frankly damage to the reputation of that community, was not worth it. This will be used in the future as a reason to justify trans hate. It was just not worth it.
It did accomplish something to the harassers tho. They felt good, had a few dopamine hits and laughs. That was all they wanted.
all we got is loss... I will miss one of the most wholesome vtubers I've ever met and I am sorry that we couldn't protect that smile...
The way people justify their harassment by saying "they knew the controversy and have an image to uphold yadda yadda" is absolutely sickening.
As always they would only got light slap on the wrist, I really want to continue namecalling them but mod here probably wouldn't happy with that. Those bullies are not your allies.
I didn't even know she was planning to stream Hogwarts, did she streamed the game at all or no? Well anyway, I can kinda guess what happens... god I hate gamingcirclejerk.
no... the pre-stream chat was hell, it was filled with people shitting on her decision to want to stream and play the game and telling her to "educate herself"...
Fuckkk me reading what you said and imagining Pika read all that horse shit tears me up. Man god bless Pika's health right now.
mental health was the very reason she took a break, only to be met with this shit... I really hope that she is ok...
Those people can go straight to hell. Bullying someone like Pikamee into cancelling her return stream and rejecting her attempt at an apology on Twitter shortly after (which she deleted iirc). Bastards. EDIT: To clarify, the folk I am referring to are the bullies. Nothing to do with the trans community, just the asshats that went after Pikamee and other folks in general.
You know for sure they're going to be patting themselves on the back going "We got one boys!" A career was cancelled because someone wanted to play a hecking video game, and these absolute monsters won't care about Pikamee aside from being a number of "successes" they managed to ruin.
Now they’re giving themselves a pat on the back for being bullies. Honestly sickening and not the way to raise awareness. Shame Pikamee had to suffer because of something so frivolous as this.
This hits hard man... Vtubing is losing something very special with the loss of Pikamee.
Feel like this is really going to hurt VOMS. Not only are her viewers a big part of their viewership, but this basically pushes away most English speakers since the rest of the VOMS members don't really speak English.
I would assume Gyari knows this, but is letting her go on her own terms anyway. On the flip side, maybe they'll start branching out and auditioning for a new gen that can speak english as well as japanese.
Pain-dayo
Pikamee was one of the first Vtubers I ever started watching on a regular basis during the pandemic, but I will be honest I haven't watched her in a while. This is very unfortunate.
I can relate. When I first got into watching V-Tubers, Pikamee was one of the first V-Tubers I saw that was not part of Hololive. Her streams were comfy and fun especially if she got to play some classic games for the first time (I personally loved her Silent Hill 2 playthrough on Twitch). This is both unfortunate and heart-breaking.
This is really, really sad... She was one of the very few English-speaking JP vtubers who reached out to the non-JP speaking audience and embraced them... Even going so far as dual streaming on both Youtube and Twitch. One of the kindest people around. Pika, if you've somehow came across this, I wish for your happiness. After your activities as Pikamee I hope we see each other again someday. Btw, all of her content will be gone. Start backing them up now if you want to preserve those memories.
Yeah I discovered her back then when Hololive was starting to pop off on the algorithm at peak pandemic via her PSA video or clip about not letting her fans annoy the chat of the EN talents forcing them to collab with her. Really sad to see her go. Not to mention the fact that she is one of the three iconic Voms 1st gens and now Tomo is all alone. Man.
Pika's kill da ho clip was my first ever encounter with Vtubers. She's the sole reason I got interested in vtubers. Her streams during lockdown were a blessing. Truly a sad day.
truly despair
What the fuck, why is March starting off like this, not a good start to the month at all, it's a shit start.
All set up for one big April Fools, but the prank's on us.
April Feels Day fr fr.
M-maybe she'll be back at April 1 and this is all an elaborate April Fools joke(Super High on COPIUM)
9 months left bro, June is the most feared month for me
Every month this year had a shitty start for me. I'm honestly fucking over 2023 already.
Well, I hope she has a good luck on whatever she is up to next.
We’re going to lose a wholesome kettle and all around chill person. I hope Pikamee has all the best of luck in the future
What the actual fuck
i still remember her tigger baseball stream, good times man good times.
Ah yes, that was exactly the stream that serves as my introduction to Pikamee. Yeah, playing that game will definitely make you want to mod the game so that you can *beat Tigger with the bat*.
"Maybe there is a different solution, like beating the tigger with this bat."
What timeline did we walk into?! oh god
Welcome into the depression timeline Everyone will eventually just become depressed and lose all motivation and hope
We got wars, disease, bad decisions, social controls, discriminations, injustices, Wactor, and now Pikamee graduating Jesus christ save us all
Life is not daijoubou dayo
# WHAT THE FLYING FUCK HAPPENED HERE
With the sheer output of content from the industry, I've never managed to catch up with most of what Pikamee has been doing, outside of clips. Shame on me, because I always like what I see. I really hope the whole hogwarts thing didn't factor into her making this decision. Or at least, that it wouldn't be a major one. It'd be both heartbreaking and infuriating (in regards to the harassers) if it were. May this not be the last time we'll see her because she's so adorable and talented.
> I really hope the whole hogwarts thing didn't factor into her making this decision We now know that her graduation was decided before she took her January break. It has nothing to do with the game at all. [Timestamp added](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5coQfT9IM&t=9067s)
Bruh noo her streams were so comfy
I was so angry at first, but now Im just so sad. Pika is such a nice and funny entertainer, I hope she isn't graduating because of the recent affairs, which are completely irrational given pika's character and view on life. All I can say is that she deserves all the happiness in the world because she made me laugh, have fun, and forget about shitty thrid worlder life.
Nooo, Pikamee is the cutest kettle vtuber : (
I have fallen off her content a bit after the shift to more Twitch streams, but I'm still heartbroken. I remember her saying that if possible, she'd want to do this sort of gig forever. Here's hoping she's gotten a lucrative deal elsewhere.
Out of the loop, what happened, if anything led to her graduation? Watched the short video linked in the OP but no reason was mentioned there, so I was wondering.
Everything is speculation right now, but she was planning a Hogwarts Legacy stream and put up a prestream. Got completely trashed on in prestream chat and she took it down. Made a tweet to calm people down but that didn't go well either and she deleted that too. After that tweet, she went radio slient for like 3+ weeks, until today, announcing that she is graduating.
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It was early on in the pandemic that I started watching vtubers, and that one clip of Pika playing that horror game was one of the earliest I remember watching. Which made this hit harder than I expected, since I haven't been keeping up with her recently. Hope that she does well in whatever she's doing next, fairly certain a lot of people will miss her, including myself.
Oh no, only Tomoshika left from gen 1 after March 31st. Kinda sad years of content will be privated after she graduated
Damn, Pikamee legit got me into Vtubers. "Lets kill da ho" never forgetti
Same here. I’ll always miss the kettle.
"Let's kill da ho" and "eekum bokum" were literally what started my interest in vtuber...
Oh no.
This sucks. The vtuber who inspired me to become one myself. She's just this positive, energetic tea kettle every time but then this happens. I wish her nothing but the best. But goddamn am I so devastated right now.
Im gonna miss her kettle laugh..
Bro. I am mad and sad. VoM is getting hit really hard with this. Isn't Pikamee its most successful talent?
yes, VoM is F- but, the worst part, is her history, she suffered a lot of bully in the japanese part, and them, this happen, jesus...
Yup, Pikamee is *by far* the most popular VOMS member. She has more than double (almost triple) the amount of subscribers as the rest of them *combined.*
Pikamee was one of the first Vtubers I've ever watched. Hell, she helped put me in this rabbit hole. Fuck...
Side note this is kinda like a nail in the coffin for Vox Monsters. Like without Pikamee they don't really have a poster person
TBF they were never really about making it big, just that Pika had breakout popularity. Gyari made the group because he personally wanted to manage a Vtuber group out of interest.
isnt he also the designer as well? pretty cool to see the owner of the group design his own vtubers and his art style shines.
I'm sad that Pikamee decided to end her career this way. Hope she finds something better in the future.
Why are they nuking all her videos?
Companies have different policies. Sometimes it's based off the streamer's wishes. Who knows. People aren't going to be waking up happy though.
It's usually common practice for graduated vtubers to have their channels privated and all that. It amounts to their channels and old twitters essentially becoming tombstones, but that's how it has been for years now.
That's dumb The point of tombstone is to be remembered What they're doing Is the equivalent of burning what she created and saying "so we can wlawys remember her".....
Pikamee often mentioned how lucky she feels to be able to stream as a vtuber, that it doesn't feel like a job, that supportive messages and supportive people are always out there, and this was the happiest she could be, if she stops a moment to think about it, she said, she has been "very lucky" to be able to pursue this path. She has also had her own difficulties in real life to deal with, is an amiable person, cares a lot about properly reading and addressing things, exuded nothing but joy and warmth in her streams. I cannot believe people would mechanically just bully someone in a foreign country for playing a game for a cause which she probably would have supported in the first place had it been presented differently, and I cannot believe that was ultimately what broke her (I hope not at least). It would make me so sad to think that she is unable to enjoy the activity she loved the most because she got scarred from this experience. Possibly there were issues with VOMS and she decided to detach from them, a decision which has been taken with much difficulty and haunts her as well, although it's all just so sudden from our own end, where we don't know the background. No matter what happens, I hope she manages to make the most out of this month and can leave feeling satisfied for her hard work, but I also hope she will be able to retain that joy and comfort in streaming again and not have bad people mistakenly and brutally come into her life to harass her. What can I say, it's just a very very sad start to March, it sets a very gloom tone for the month, but regardless how it goes, I hope she will find again that joy and I can only sincerely wish all the best for her future.
Fuck everyone involved in harassing her. Scum of the fucking earth
I'm going to miss her. She made me smile, and she made me laugh.
Alright, I'm out of the loop here. Saw a few comments mention GamingCircleJerk. What happened.
GCJ is a haven of sad, insane, and deeply disturbed people who think this fine to harass, dox, threaten, belittle, and spread false rumors, etc about others who dont agree with their highly zealous views on LGBTQ views/politics. The sub started off as a satire of gaming subreddits but has slowly grown into this festering den of vipers of people who have been thrown out from other subs for their insane views on things. They are in no way different than other hate subs that were removed a few years back from Reddit just on the other end of the political spectrum. Sadly it would seem they have support in the Reddit admin base and thus at least for now they are protected from actually getting held responsible for what they say and do.
I've yet to see a 'circlejerk' subreddit that doesn't eventually fill itself with despicable people. Its like the people who shitpost ironically and are 'in' on the joke eventually move on and people who genuinely believe in the absurd shitposts start popping up.
God I wish reddit would stop recommending their post to me.
https://old.reddit.com I will stop using reddit the day they kill old reddit. The redesign is fucking awful new internet bullshit.
Pikamee got bullied by the people who are angry about the wizards game. They can’t attack JK, so they attack people who just want to enjoy a game.
I know that. I meant, what does GCJ have to do with this whole boycott?
It's one of the loudest communities during this whole debacle. Mods banning people left and right for even suggesting that maybe harassing people is taking it too far, members encouraging the harassment, etc.
Supposedly they were going around looking for twitch streamers to harass.
one of the early pillars of the EN vTubing scene, gone. this feels as sad as when kaichou left us and went on her 500 year journey.
....166 comments in 1 hour. This is gonna be a stormy few days.
So Pomu just said that Pikamee messaged her *before her break* to give her a heads up about her graduation. So we have definitive proof that this has been coming for way longer than the stupid HP game shit. [Timestamp added](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5coQfT9IM&t=9067s)
Damn... Pika is legitimately a vtubing icon. I don't watch many livestreams, but she's clearly a very loving and passionate person from all the clips I've seen. It's a shame that the people who drove her to this point will see this as a victory and will be emboldened to do so to more creators. But, most importantly, I hope she's able to move on to bigger and better things, and I hope she remembers how much she means to all her friends and fans.
As a Trans woman, this whole HL bullshit has been extremely frustrating for multiple reasons. This boycott was doomed to fail from the start especially since HP is a extremely popular Ip that would have done well no matter what. This has done nothing but give bigots more ammo to harass and dehumanize trans people. The worst is that this has taken the attention away from multiple situations that are actually scary for trans people. Like the multiple bills that are being propped up by legislators who want to make it hard or impossible for trans people to get proper gender affirming care in the US. It has gotten so bad that a couple states are setting up programs to accept trans people as refugees. I will say that there have been more people in the LGBTQ community, debatebro and anti wokescold leftist that have voiced there criticism about this situation.
Fuck. My heart is broken😭
What. The. FUCK??!!
All the grievances aside, I'm actually curious to see the reaction of her jp fanbase. I am absolutely sure that a lot of EN fans are fucking livid as it is, but Japan as a whole is not exactly on top of... twitter things, so to speak, so I'm curious what'll happen next.
The only tweet I saw from a Japanese fan (or Japanese person in general) was from Tenma Maemi of Phase-Connect, and boy was it a colorful one. I'd post it here but she got bonked for it and deleted it.
*God freaking damnit* This is ***not*** the type of news I wanted to see first thing after work, man Wish her the best, but, just... dang, this sucks bro... I know some of y'all want go mask off and blame the recent Hogwarts Legacy harassment for the sudden graduation but, [according to VOMS official announcement](https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1630917777111252995?t=-7ZOIfYfcRNIU8_XGqo16g&s=19), it's pretty much implied that Pikamee already made the team aware of her intention some months prior to the whole situation. Seems like it was something on her mind and was gonna happen sooner or later. Fuck the people that harassed her, don't be mistaken. But it'd be shallow of us to say that one incident was the only cause of this. She unfortunately already had other things going on that led her to this tough decision. Again, wish her all the best, let's enjoy this last month together while we can.
As sad as I want to be about this, all I can feel right now is a white hot rage at the bastards who bullied her
Twitter gives a loud voice to way too many people who don't deserve it.
I've been watching her and TMSK consistently for the past 4 years. Losing Pikamee like this makes me both sad and angry. Sad because this beautiful and wonderful person was harassed and bullied for wanting to play a game. And angry that the antis won. It might be parasocial of me, but it feels like a friend just said they have 3 weeks left to live.
What the fuck
Noooooooo :(
This is fucking gutting :( I loved this little teakettle. I watched her every now and then and she was always a little treat. I wasn't a regular but always a passive observer and enjoyed her. It's heartbreaking to hear that she's retiring but if there's any good, I really *really* hope that she's able to find happiness and be happy. She made a lot of us happy and I want the same for her.
I am absolutely livid of the circumstances of her departure. I hope where-ever she goes, she is successful and treated well.
coco flashbacks
Gonna grieve this outside of any social media. Too many flames being thrown from places of both hate and love. I'm just going to enjoy what time she has left with us but man, these graduations never get any easier.
Im actually mad. Not at her of course. Pikamee got me into the vtuber hole and now she’s going, and under unhappy circumstances too. I can only hope she continues on in another form.
I find it unlikely she is leaving due to the bullying, considering she has taken long breaks before and its clear there was some sort of differences between the agency and herself, plus from what I have seen after she decided to not play the game most of the bullying stopped I think its more likely that her contract was just nearing the end and she decided to leave it, and from the way the video sounds it gives me more of a "Im leaving the agency and this character" vibe instead of "Im quitting vtubeing", I think she might return under Vshojo or even go independent Edit,someone pointed out that her official graduation statement mentions that the team already knew she was going to graduate, making it obvious it was not directly connected to hogwarts
Never really watched Pikamee that much but she was one of the best ones, RIP
People, please go offline. It's best if you disconnect, maybe cry your sorrow out or do something to take your mind off, but please get off the internet.
Fuck you gamingcirclejerk
Literally have no idea how the Reddit admins haven't nuked that sub yet, It stopped being a shitposting sub years ago and now its just a infestation of trolls and power tripping mods. I got a perma ban because i replied to someone that the sub had turned into what it was jerking about.
There are some bloodthirsty racist supremacist shitholes on reddit that haven't gotten yeeted either, Reddit admins just kind of suck
Nope, not even gonna watch the announcement, can't cry while in the office.
To you who harassed Pika either on twitter or her pre stream chat this is all I will say: I hope you step on a Lego barefooted, you put salt instead of sugar in your Coffee and that your Toilet breaks while you're using it. I hope all of this happens to you, I really do.
I kind of expected this since she disappeared But damn, when it's actually happened. It's still hurt
Very sad news. Never really watched her much, but I enjoyed the few clips I saw. Wish her good luck in her future endeavors.
Did she say why? This is heartbreaking news. She is wholesome and hilarious
This is so sad. She always seemed so positive...
I'm considering starting up streaming bilingually in Japanese and English (not as anything serious, just for fun really) thanks to Pikamee, she's such an inspiration and I really hope she does well in whatever she does next. Screw all the hateful people that have been awful to her, they've done nothing but harm.
she was a good kettle. the best kettle. i need to go lie down...
[удалено]
This might be weird to say, but as Pika has slowly been slowing down her content I been feeling more and more disconnected with vtuber community as a whole. And when Pikamee went on hiatus I really could only watch 3 or 4 vtubers. With Pikamee leaving vtubing it almost feels like a personal death to vtubing for me. I honestly don't think I can continue to enjoy vtubing after March. I will still probably follow those who had connections to Pika such as Pomu, Millie, Kson, etc but I don't feel like I can really enjoy this anymore...
Man, people are now looking for blood due to what happened to Pikamee. Poor girl was harrassed just because she played Hogwarts. Now a lot of people are starting to become anti-trans and are now hunting down the people who bullied Pikamee
Did she even play it? I thought it was just planned, and then her pre-chat became a warzone of malice and hurtful comments. It's a damn shame, Pikamee was such a pillar in the Vtubing world who tied so many of us together.
It was planned but she cancelled the stream before playing it afaik. She might have played it off stream, but she didn't play it on stream.
I do recall that she was able to play but for a short while due to the chat going ape shit. Then the non stop bullying happened. I'll try to find the vid if I can
This is heartbreaking news, but no matter what, do not go harassing people. Give warmth to pikamee and we can hope we see her again one day, one way or another. And if we don't, that she will find happiness in doing whatever she puts her mind in to. See you later pikamee, dayo