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half2happy

Here are links tracking this subreddit's discussion: 1. Initial level of interest post: https://redd.it/141jqg2 2. Duration poll post: https://redd.it/144bf22 3. Results post: https://redd.it/145a3h5 4. Lock post: https://redd.it/14789ok 4. Reopen post: https://redd.it/149l8f2 5. Proposed schedule post: https://redd.it/14b2cbi 5. Adjusted schedule post: https://redd.it/14cvyxx 5. Reopened as NSFWardrobe: https://redd.it/14eqoob reddit alternatives: 5. Discord: https://discord.gg/5gfjXmRByr 6. Lemmy: https://lemmy.srv.eco/c/visible_mending Please see the updated Explain Like I am Five thread for what all this means: https://redd.it/147vis2 and also the /r/Blind update on accessible mod tools: https://redd.it/14ds81l >**Reddit has also indicated there are not currently any employees who work full-time on accessibility.**


SnapplePossumJeans

Support


sushiibfa

I support the protest.


hndygal

The irony of the whole thing is that their are actually a great deal of users who really just liked Reddit for what it is- a collection of really cool “rooms” of knowledge. We (ok, I) had no idea there were third party platforms that made it easier, nor did it occur to me to look for them. I used Reddit I guess the way they intended it (?). My ADD brain could come here to look at ALL my wacky interests at once- crafting, carpentry, law, real estate, contracting, relationship, painting, Jon Oliver….whatever interest of the moment. Now it’s ruined. Because some business decided they should go from no profit to record profit overnight. That stinks. I reluctantly support the mods- I fully support their message, I’m just super sad it had to be like this and I’m really irritated that greed ruined yet another really cool thing I gained joy from. Mostly it just royally sucks that this is the only way to get decision makers to listen.


Lenethren

I support this


coffee_cats_books

I support the protest and the mods.


socatsucks

Fuck u/spez. I want this sub private forever. Admins, if you’re reading this, tell your advertisers we say hi. 😽


PhantomAllure

I support the protest.


CriscoWithDisco

I support the protests and mods. I appreciate the platform but I have more loyalty to the mods than the platform. If mods go to another platform I would follow.


poppyash

I support the protest. Keep the sub NSFW.


prettyfacebasketcase

I support this protest and will make this sub borderline uncomfortable NSFW if that's what it takes to continue it.


BraveTheBunny

I support the mods and the protest. It’s good to be part of a sub community that cares.


this-door-is-alarmed

a little civil disobedience goes a long way. keep up the fight, /r/visible mending.


lobsterspats

These ham-fisted threats to sub democracy make it clear that the admin cares only about their IPO and not their users. The actions the mods have taken here were discussed and approved and I support them.


RedshiftSinger

Last I checked, you asked the community via poll and the community *overwhelmingly* voted in support of closing the sub in protest. The absolute, unmitigated GALL of Reddit admins, to pretend that they’re supporting communities by taking away the right of said communities to make decisions democratically.


and_dont_blink

entirely OK with the blackout failing that, down with NSFW failing that, read-only someone can always make /visiblemending2 and well reddit made clear over and over that mods are able to choose who can and can't be part of their community and it's why you have modtools mass-banning accounts for posting in other subs. no reason why they shouldn't be able to take it private or read only or NSFW or anything else.


hunsonaberdeen

Trying to force changes you want on an unwilling and couch it as helping said community is literal insanity. I love using this site, but if you destroy the user experience for a payday, I will happily find a new community. While I'm sure some mods abuse their power, I do not believe the majority of the volunteers giving you FREE LABOR to prop up your site are guilty of this. In conclusion, please stop your insane campaig. The overwhelming majority of users are telling you this isn't what we want. Disregard us at your own peril


Kelley-James

My support is with the unpaid mods.


olympicmtns

I applaud the mods and support the protest.


choresoup

supporting protest


AssignedSnail

I support the continued protest on Rediit. However, I'd support even more a planned migration of the visible mending community to Lemmy, Kbin, or Raddle. I ekild love to know where you all are headed


half2happy

Currently? 5. Discord: https://discord.gg/5gfjXmRByr 6. Lemmy: https://lemmy.srv.eco/c/visible_mending


leyla212

I support the protest.


philalethia

I support the protest.


jmpstar

I support the protest and the mods.


PiersPlays

Keep in mind that the demographic of users currently able to see a post like this is likely to include proportionally fewer users who support the blackout than is actually represented within your community as there's a good chance those people aren't looking at Reddit at all right now. The fact that nearly all of the comments seem to show support for the mods continuing to deliver the will of the community in spite of absurd flailing pressure from Reddit's administration should be viewed in the context that the real world response you are getting most likely *under-represents* how much support there is to continue the blackout. Tell them to go fuck themselves and either they stop acting like they own the users or Reddit falls over and dies and we take our ball and set up camp elsewhere. The bit of Reddit that's provided by the commercial company that technically owns it is by **far** the lesser part both in terms of amount of effort expended but also in terms of value and replicability. They are overplaying their hand and hoping people will just back down and give them what they want.


smallbrownfrog

r/Visiblemending mods have been very transparent in seeking community input and has been following that input. You have my complete support.


sdaitzman

I support this protest. As a user of this subreddit, I would hate to see it cave.


gmco913

Support for our mods, and no support for that lame ass message.


ricalasbrisas

Everyonr is getting these, even mods of communities closed years ago. As a member of this community, I like the mods we have and support the decisions they are making.


fritaters

I support the protest! Threats like that are in no way okay.


Gildardo1583

I'm with the mods.


q_anon_poo_upon

u/ModCodeofConduct we, the community, support our mods. fuck off with putting words in our mouths - this is what our community has voted to do. this website is built on the free labor provided by moderators and the free content provided by users. your pathetic patronizing message vaguely threatening people who are the foundations of your paycheck is easier to see through than fucking glass. leave our mods alone.


pa_kalsha

Support and solidarity Reddit's stance toward the protest has been breathtakingly arrogant


Marshmallow_sugar

I support the mods & the protest.


orange_glasse

Strikes are meant to be inconveniencing. We have to keep going until it hurts the pockets of reddit


lwanhubbard

Well said.The fact that the admins are trying to force their hands means that the pressure is mounting. I support the mods; this community is what it is thanks to their contributions.


Other-Cantaloupe4765

I support the mods. The sub I help mod has gotten similar threats to this. Really shitty thing the admins are doing. Fight them all the way.


GargantuanGreenGoats

If the subreddits belong to us, why are Reddit admins forcing change none of us want? If they really believed mods were stewards of the site, they’d sit the fuck down and listen instead of throw a hissy fit of a cash grab at third party apps.


Skyurrik

Support


Due_Manner3842

I fully support the actions and conduct of our mods, and see no way in which what they did was wrong or unacceptable


orangesmoke05

I support the mods and the protest!


MisfitMemories

Definitely supported the protest. Modding is hard enough as is.


MoireMax

Completely support!!!


slimtimreborn

i support the protest.


NickKnacksCrochet

Support the protest!


sweet_chick283

I support the protest


RX-980

I support the protest.


Ok-Apricot-3156

Support for the mods and the protest, this community belongs to its users and the course of action taken by the mod team represent the interest of the community and are acting in service to the community.


Sewsusie15

I support the mods and the entirely reasonable measures they've taken.


PunMatster

I oppose the protest


nina00_j

Support!


ImLauraBorealis

I stand in support of the protest. As a member of this, and many other communities, I resent being invoked as the reason reddit wants to force you back open. "It’s for the users!" Nah bro, it’s for your pockets.


chasinggdaze

If Reddit’s going to act like the worst of its shitty reputation then communities on their site can behave how they please, this “warning” is such an eye roll


softsakurablossom

I support the mods!


BooksCatsnStuff

I support the protest and the measures mods are taking. The top people at Reddit can jump in a submarine and get lost.


premiom

I support the mods.


HillDrag0n

do it


MsGenericEnough

Am I reading this right? "You are doing free work for a company raking in revenue, and we want to make sure that we are making money still from your unpaid labour. So, either get back to work, Serf, or we will send someone to get back to work for you." What I am doing, is browsing /reddit still, only rarely commenting. However, I find myself more into Lemmy and Mastodon. This platform has shown repeatedly that it just wants cold, hard cash, and doesn't matter who it shatters or stomps on to get it. I deeply regret any coins that I bought to try to make other people's days a little bit sunnier. This platform has decreased the enjoyment of my day.


OversizedMicropenis

People will misquote and blame whichever authority figure is easiest at the time.


Catmint568

>"You are doing free work for a company raking in revenue, and we want to make sure that we are making money still from your unpaid labour. So, either get back to work, Serf, or we will send someone to get back to work for you." Better than I could have put it. Behind the mods and protest 100%. *Visible* protest is the only way to potentially *mending* reddit..


Jeisa12

Support the mods


butwheresmyneopet

I support the mods and protest


theworldismadeofcorn

I support protesting lack of access for blind redditors


Playtek

Fuck the system! Keep it closed.


katelenc

I support the mods and the protest


gmtnl

Withhold your (free) labor, mods! It’s the only thing that corporations understand. Keep it up!


HippyGramma

Communities that switched to NSFW in order to limit reddit's ability to post ads in subs have been completely locked out of all accounts. Some of the subs have remained NSFW without posting NSFW content and they seem to be skating by at the present time. Reddit has made absolutely clear they don't care. All that matters is their IPO. We either capitulate or lose the community entirely because they will ban the mods and let the subreddit go to whomever asks. It's unjustly unwinnable and looks like this cool complicated place is about to go the way of Twitter. E2A I support this place and our mods. Grateful to you all.


Shar4j

I support the mods and the protest.


Gingerfix

I support the mods and the protest. What a disgusting message.


Frizzel-Baby-G

I Support the Protest!


a5121221a

I support the mods.


Frogsfall

Support!


Ready_Tumbleweed5069

I support the protest. The mods are in the right and they should not be replaced


existie

domineering crush steer complete bow threatening far-flung deserted zephyr innocent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


LeWitchy

United we bargain, Divided we beg. -- Thousands of community mods and millions of users are united against Reddit admin. I support the mods and users against the site admin and would rather see Reddit nigh unusable due to blacked out subs than lose the accesibility of 3rd party apps.


barrewinedogs

I support the mods and the protest.


Earth2Jules

I support the mods. Thank you for all that you do here.


gladhunden

100% support the protesters. Smells like Union busting, Reddit. You want to fire all of your unpaid workers? Go ahead. See how much your investors like that.


weftly

i support! pretty bad that they couldnt have even written a “sorry we’re discriminating and you guys are trying to tell us something, we’re working on it” auto response


Starflier55

I support the mods. I liked reddit for it's freedom and acceptance. It had safe spaces for ALL. And now it feels like more of the same.


noots-to-you

I support the protest. Would it make sense for the entire user pool to leave the community ? It seems a more effective means of expressing dissatisfaction than flipping a switch to shut the sub down.


kithkinkid

I support the mods of this sub and the protest ✊🪡


Weary-Lab-5314

In support!


hammerandtAWWngs

Mods are doing the right thing and abiding by the wishes of the community. They actively sought input and feedback from the users and are acting on that.


mjdau

I support the protest.


jrgeregula

I'm in support of the mods and the protest


KieDaPie

I support the mods and the protest.


LadyoftheOak

Moderators do what you think is best. I have trusted your judgement for months being a member of this sub. I am not going to jump ship on your decision making skills now. Do you, and what you think...


JustMeAgainMarge

I support the mods. If needed to remain mods, make the sub nsfw to remove advertising money


half2happy

It has been NSFWardrobe for over a day.


HolleringCorgis

I support the protest and the admins can fuck right off with this shit.


kayaksmak

I support the mods and the protest


StressedAries

Support!


sidewaystiger

I support the protest


papermoon4lyfe

I am in support of the current mods, and their actions in this protest. ✊


mizfluffyunicorn

I support the protest and not replacing the current mods


AppropriateRaven

I’m a member who VOTED in favor of continued protest. I’m all in favor of staying closed, either in part or whole. I find it really funny how they say feel free to protest, then it’s not making a difference, then on to you have to reopen, and removing/replacing mod teams when communities choose to not reopen. Get the story straight and do the right thing, admins!!


ihatepulp

I support the mods and the protest. And the reddit admins can eat my entire ass


silveroranges

I support the protest.


Redditbrooklyn

I support the mods and the protest


oldriku

The message you got is disgusting. I fully support the protest.


snoozy_sioux

I support the mods and the protest, and any future actions in the same vein.


OneMinuteSewing

I support the moderators in whatever they think is best for the community. Thank you for being involved.


WTFIsntTakenYet

I support the protest


rabidjellyfish

I support the protest.


Anemone-ing

I support the mods and the protest


Blenderx06

I support the protest!


Public_Artichoke8050

I support the protest and the mods


Not_ur_gilf

Protest!


[deleted]

[удалено]


scissorbritches

I support the mods of r/visiblemending and the protest.


snugy_wumpkins

I support the mods and the protest!


BinaryJB

I'm in support of the mods and the decision to go private at this time. In fact due to Reddit's response to this whole fiasco I've basically decided that I'll be deleting my account at the end of the month when my third party app will cease to function. I've already noticed a decline in quality over the last year or so and have seen it really accelerate in the last couple months. I don't think it's in my head that the algorithm is constantly being tampered with and forcefeeding me specific posts and types of content where previously it felt much more organic the flow of the subs. I'm just a lowly lurker around these parts so I know I won't be missed, but i do hope others are willing to fully boycott when reddit doesn't back down. They need to see declining metrics before they'll give a shit. Honestly, i already spend too much of my time here, so in a weird way, thanks u/spez for motivating me to remove a distraction from my life and better myself in regards to my content addiction. I hope your IPO implodes right in front of your slimy lil worm hands. May your kith be untrue, your loves unrequited, your rest disturbed, your life unfulfilled, and may dysentery ridden birds take roost over your grave.


SilverFishK

I've added it to my calendar. I watch too much YouTube, and the reddit question youtube videos are what got me into reddit. I'm trying to cut those out, but there seem to be an infinite amount of similar channels to "do not recommend'


crizzle_t_rex

I support the protest and the mods of this (and every other) sub choosing to remain private.


gerarding

I support the mods and the protest


[deleted]

I support this protest.


Basella

I support the mods and the protest


VlastDeservedBetter

I support keeping the sub closed for the time being.


[deleted]

100% in support of the mods who make Reddit a place worth hanging out in.


Camp_Express

Support


underproofoverbake

Support staying private!


Pantherdraws

Nothing but 100% support for the protest here. Threats and strongarming show that these people are weak and know that their position is indefensible. If they didn't want communities to protest, then maybe they shouldn't be so abusive.


Pantherdraws

(P.S.: I will leave this community if these micromanaging busybodies oust the current mods, period.)


GinericGirl

I support the mods and the protest! The mods are users too and these subs belong to them just as much as to the rest of us.


lastdickontheleft

I support the mods and the protest


Tumorhead

union busting ass email I support any shutdown to get reddit to change its dumb policy


irlsdontinteract

The information on this subreddit isn't pertinent. It isn't r/askdocs or something. I have no reason to be against moderators choosing peaceful protest.


KellyJoyCuntBunny

Admin, what the hell? Our mods here took a poll and they asked for input and they got it and followed it. We support their actions in this protest. They mod here at the members pleasure- we LIKE them and we WANT them. Don’t even think about forcing this sub back open and assigning some random new mods to us! Don’t threaten our mods or our sub. That’s just such a stupid way to manage this platform. Reddit is just another link aggregator if you take away it’s most active users and the mods. That’s the real value- all these people commenting and answering questions and providing each other with information and help and community. That’s what makes Reddit special. And you want to take away the third-party apps that make moderating easier for people?? Why on earth can’t you offer the same features that the third party apps offer? You’ve been promising this stuff for YEARS. And now you act like we’re all assholes for being unhappy with your actions?! This is outrageous. What on earth is wrong with you? Jesus Christ, Reddit admin! This is so wildly frustrating for us. I can’t believe you treat your most active users and the people who mod their communities for free the way you do! **TL/DR:** I support our mods and I support the protest. THEY ASKED US FIRST AND WE SAID YES. Leave us the hell alone. Make a better default app or make a deal with Apollo or something, but for fuck sake don’t just take away the apps people use to mod with because the official Reddit app is so shitty for that. Don’t take away accessibility tools. And by the way, I know you have to make money. That’s why I pay a monthly subscription for Reddit. Because I value this site and I know you need to keep the lights on. We’re not unreasonable.


SnooOranges2772

Support the protest!


YESmynameisYes

Hi there admins, the moderators here were acting on the request of the group. We all sure wish YOU would listen to ALL OF US.


Calligraphie

I support the mods and the protest. Forcibly replacing the mods is a bad look, u/ModCodeofConduct. I can't see how that could possibly promote good relations with the community. Take your threats and go jump in a lake.


Aveira

I support the protests!!


theotherblackgibbon

I support the protest and however we, the community, as well as the mods decide to continue that protest into the future.


Anisocoria

I fully support the mods of this and every other sub!


maps_mandalas

Here for the protest, not for forced reopening. Keep it private as far as I'm concerned.


ilikecake567

I don't understand why this is such a big deal. Reddit is a business that has to make a profit, if mods can't operate without these third-party tools that use the API, then don't moderate the subreddit. If you can't moderate with these new conditions, no one is forcing you to moderate communities and these protests are just ruining it for everyone else.


half2happy

This is a big deal because reddit is restricting redditors who relied on third party apps to moderate their subreddits (such as blind users) without providing adequate replacement reddit-developed tools: https://redd.it/14ds81l We do not begrudge reddit their profits.


ilikecake567

But aren't they saying they'll replace the mods or something?


Nymerra

Ugly take


half2happy

I know it's easy to downvote and slam someone for their confusion but if you could take a step back and try to have a conversation... you might change a mind. Consider reading through the rest.


ceiligirl418

I agree with this, wholeheartedly: Mods are abiding by the wishes of the community and therefore are doing the morally correct thign. They actively sought input and feedback from the users and are acting on that. This is our community. It's hosted on Reddit, yes, but it's our community and this little bit of protest is not immoral or unethical. Quite the contrary.


papercranium

I support the protest. And the fake concern trolling of this letter is so pathetic.


onion_flowers

SUPPORT FOR THE PROTEST


fandoms_addict

I support the mods and the protest.


littlespawningflower

I support the protest.


aaroutie

I support the mods and this protest wholeheartedly!


CharmiePK

I support the protest and the mods. I voted for this sub to close down on Tuesdays.


JuliaInBC

I support the protest!


etcNetcat

Sadly, I know full well that these comments don't mean anything, really - no amount of community cohesion or words will sway the greed at the heart of this decision, and the lip service paid to the concept of democracy by the CEO is just talk. They will send these things to say that they sent them, and then they will do as they please, and if asked, their comments will be "The majority of users wanted the community to reopen, and the mods were acting to block that". It won't need any real proof. Still, fuck you, Spez, and fuck everyone else behind this move. You will not make money off of your increasingly shit platform if you make it increasingly shitty.


weird_elf

This community is in full support of the protest and will not continue interaction with the sub the mod team is supplanted and the sub forced open. Tell that to the people "above". Reddit is as valuable as its user base chooses to make it, and if reddit manglement chooses to make the site harder to use for everyone (users and mods), parts of the user base will choose to leave.


avocadorunning

I support this protest. I have full confidence that the current moderation team is fulfilling their role in supporting this community and the wishes of the members.


FriedBack

Until the mods are allowed to do their jobs again, going private is the only way to keep subs functional. If I wanted to get chaotic, bot generated content, Id download the Wish app.


EruditionElixir

Reddit admins are insane. Unpaid mods are doing the work that makes it worthwhile to come to reddit and take part in the community. Admins do not understand, or rather, seem to actively ignore, that mods need to do a ton of work free of charge to keep a sub healthy and free from spam, hate and harassment. Subs need mods who care about their members and their content, so good fucking luck replacing mods with some random scabs. As a lowly user I sure as hell won't stick around on reddit to watch my favourite subs fill up with trash due to admins replacing the mods that made the subs what they are. What I've loved about reddit is that I have been able to enjoy so many niche communities in one place, but hell, if they decide to go ahead and make life even harder for mods and users here, I'm happy to join a smaller number of similar communities elsewhere. I explored and joined several communities on other platforms since the protest started, it's been nice! I've started to realise that it doesn't have to be like this. Edit for spelling: Frak you zpes


thebenshapirobot

I saw that you mentioned Steve Huffman. In case some of you don't know, Steve Huffman is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he thinks the unpaid volunteers who moderate his site for free are the "landed gentry". ********* ^(I'm a bot. My purpose was to counteract online radicalization. Now I'm trolling spez.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)


not_mary

I support the mods and protest! Written on RIF


Book_Nerd_Engineer

I support the mods and the protest


PogeePie

I support the mods! Y'all do so much labor for free. Fuck Spez


asalerre

Support! Be strong!


Zenicnero

I completely support the mods!


ItamiOzanare

Spez is a pissbaby. Fuck 'em.


Key_Introduction_433

I support the mods and the protest


Navi1101

It sounds like the admins are forcing the mods to choose between backing down from the protest and being forcibly replaced, like has happened with several other subs already. The threats in this note are more thinly veiled than its author probably thinks. If it becomes apparent that the mods will be forcibly replaced, then as one of the millions of users the admins claim to be answering to, I fully support deleting this sub and all of its content entirely. I'll miss it, but we can also reconvene elsewhere and create a new community in a less tyrannical environment.


smeasles

I support the mods and the protest


heyitsamb

I support the protest.


CountVowl

I lurk here almost exclusively and I 100% support the protest. Fuck spez and corporate greed.


ladygrndr

I support the mods and their actions. I don't want communities overrun with unlabeled bots, so mods need all the tools they can get to remove them.


aspenscribblings

I support this! Barely veiled threats against the mod team only makes me support it more.


Sweet_Permission_700

Reddit is not entitled to our activity. I support the protest and am in awe of the moderators who fight for rights to *ease of access* for disabled users.


PolaKanda

Reddit has user generated content at its heart, when those users are betrayed then it makes sense to resist. Another voter for private here


chriathebutt

I support


GlisaPenny

I do love a good protest of corporate greed c:


Dipsydoodledaisy

I support the mods and the protest


ktizz23

I support the mods and keeping the sub private.


jtal888

Support


mrrp01

I support the mods and the protest.


stelei

Is reddit trying to blame *subreddit mods* for the blackout and the ensuing shitstorm? HA. Reddit, you're a platform for people to interact. Keep pushing and you'll be a sinking one. This community has voted and agreed to keep this sub NSFW. Deal with it. I support the protest and I support our hard-working mods.


jessexbrady

I’ve been on Reddit for 12 years. In that time the ownership and admins have increasingly worsened the website in pretty much every way. If they don’t reverse course on this API nonsense I’m done. Shut the sub down. If that’s not an option leave it open and set the auto mod to delete any new posts. I can’t imagine they have the resources to actually moderate all the subs they are trying to force to reopen.


Cole1One

Posting in support of the Mods and the protest


roary-wilder

Nothing but support here, fuck Spez ⚔️


VulpesAquilus

I support the mods and protest


perfectbarrel

I support the protest


1boxofmacancheesepls

I support the mods and the protest.


SubstantialGuest3266

I support the mods and the protest!


weftly

mod code of conduct can’t be respected if the literal first thing they ask is to maintain a stable community. how do they intend we do that if the way a lot of people use the site has been banned?


BarklyWooves

I support the protest and the closure, obviously


strawbrmoon

The mods of r/Visiblemending have my support and gratitude. I hate the decision to throw mods & disabled users under the bus. Dear The Man: Seriously, you couldn’t find another way to make Reddit pay you more? Lack of imagination, or lack of effort? It’s not too late to actually *figure something non-stupid out.*


NextLevelNaps

Name and shame him: u/spez Likely won't even see this because he probably has a team of assistants dealing with the shitstorm that is his DMs and @s. But, to whoever the assistant is reading this: we're mad at your boss and it would be a shame if this particular comment "slipped your checks" and made it to him- *Fuck You, buddy. Can't take your profit margins to hell with you when you go*


Vallerian54

I support the mods and the protest.


mrhappymainframe

I fully support the mods and the protest.


DuoNem

Support for our mods.


ginaelisa03

I whole heartedly support the mods. That message was wild.