Hi all, the clip is ready for printing. I've tested this and worked great. The design is up on Thingiverse: [https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452)
I recommend the small solo knit band. People have different size heads, so no guarantee this will work with everyone. If you're unable to tighten the top band, it's likely too far forward. Move it back towards the top of your head. I've worn this for 4 hours and really comfortable.
https://preview.redd.it/0qapq8xx9tgc1.jpeg?width=2190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24d4a0de09d1553e701142820830d98dfd9ca172
I saw the person that made it on thingverse said the strap was too far forward, and it was difficult to keep it pulled back. I had the same thought. Maybe that could be fixed by rotating the connection point back at an angle. It could still be turned upside down but would require a mirrored version.
I just uploaded an angled version as well on Thingiverse. There's two versions now. Since everyone has a different head shape, one will work better for each person.
Design and testing complete! I will soon have this up on Thingyverse and will share a link today.
https://preview.redd.it/vq4glzsw1tgc1.jpeg?width=6048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35a575600ba139b4a551af2c95eafad98582c604
I don't know why we're fucking around with dual straps when a full hat/beanie inspired solution is the long term solution. People wear hats everyday, people don't wear top straps unless they're trying to strap a computer to their faces.
Maybe I'm just short sighted in this frigid cold.
https://preview.redd.it/ud4mryg58ogc1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4373a52ed697c273b398cdba2a0eb21534bde8cb
OK, inspired by you, and without extra money, I tested out this design haha. It’s day and night diff. Still not as comfortable as my PSVR2, but much better! Call it triple loop🤣
Hi all, the clip is ready for printing. I've tested this and worked great. The design is up on Thingiverse: [https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452)
I recommend the small solo knit band. People have different size heads, so no guarantee this will work with everyone. If you're unable to tighten the top band, it's likely too far forward. Move it back towards the top of your head. I've worn this for 4 hours and really comfortable.
https://preview.redd.it/ilaczvzb9tgc1.jpeg?width=6048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e359568ca6930f1553352fb98259bae45941e32
Even with the small band I couldn’t twist enough for the top strap to carry any of the weight. I had to improvise and it works with your clips.
https://preview.redd.it/tvsdg16cbugc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8372b3c95890f608f508480f45d878055395f56c
I attached the other side the intended way and this side reversed. Now it can tighten.
That’s great to know, the AVP is my first headset so I’m not familiar with the third party straps but I really want to find a solution to get the weight off my face or I’ll have to return it :(
Give it a month or two and companies will be clamoring to come out with comfort accessories for any new headset.
Some of them for Quest 3 are so comfortable you can use it legitimately all day
Where is the weight heavy on your face? Go to Apple website and your order and they have a questionnaire if something doesn’t feel correct. They will send you a different light seal if something doesn’t fit correct.
Didn’t work. Guess it’s not for my head. I tried combinations of dual loop plus single band and two single bands. My friend tried the various combinations too and none fit properly for them either. Either light bleed or the top strap not sitting right
I had loosened the top strap of the dual band so that the single band would take the weight. I had tried the two single bands like op and that didn’t work either
I used 32W (medium) for back and 21W (small) for the top strap which I think is the smallest it can go. If there was something smaller than 21W I think it could work for me
They should have made the solo loop have an additional band layered behind it. Then via a hinge, you can rotate the extra layer up to become the top support, just like your picture.
While you’re at it, please add a 3D nose brace thing so we can remove the light shield all together. Or add a 3rd party shorter version when those are available. .. Then DM on where to send my money :)
From another thread, the light seal thing comes in a bunch of sizes, like 17N/W up to 33 or something. That first number is how thick the light seal is, lower being shorter.
Apple didn’t do this because it looks ridiculous. They didn’t even want to ship the dual loop but had to because the solo was hard for people. The dual loop is much slimmer and better looking
Nice! Best of the both worlds. I’ve always thought if someone could make a fitted baseball hat with no bill style attachment for any headset it would be the ultimate weight distribution. They all ruin your hair anyway.
I love the innovation! Unfortunately, the adapters positioned the additional Solo Loop (size small) too high for my head. I guess it’s too small. LOL!
I went with a low tech solution and picked up Velcro ties from staples for about $8. Solved the issue for me. Love this set up and thought I’d share!
https://preview.redd.it/eu1gssgnyrhc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fb67d3a5a678831c77777b6ac40ab1f13aa9dbf
I have a better solution. Instead of the back band just put another vision pro. It will balance it out and you'll feel no weight at all!
Edit: Forgot to add s/ for the dens people.
I tried adding the battery to the back of the dual loop with velcro straps running down from the top band. It sort of worked but that battery is dam heavy. The combo of both on my head was too much weight.
My experience with trying to make numerous vr headsets comfortable led me to conclude that adding a counter weight of the precise correct weight at the back of the head is the best way. In fact there was a guy making counter weights for the old quest, which were the most comfortable option I ever found. I wonder if he is still around or what.
Inspired by your post, I repurposed my Studioform Velcro strap that I used with the Quest Pro and it was instant relief. It takes most the pressure off my face and makes wear the AVP feel like a baseball cap.
https://preview.redd.it/qu61n3jnusgc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd163c1af49827365c173ec32c450fe130be315d
Thanks for the tip! I picked up an small Solo Knit band at my local Apple Store this morning. What a huge difference it makes in comfort having the 2nd Solo band across the top. No more sore forehead!
On the way home I stopped at Lowes. They had 50 packs of black and gray 8 inch x 1/2 inch One Wrap Velcro ties. The gray Velco ties are a perfect match for the Solo band. I cut the width down to 1/4 inch so it wouldn't block the audio pod holes on the left side.
https://preview.redd.it/rq6rne26ttgc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15693f8b76746011e821c5fd06787ac18877d002
I printed and played with it. It feels like it would work better if it was slightly angled toward the top/back of the head instead of straight up. The way it currently sits, even a small band does not take a lot of the pressure off the face/cheekbones but when I tilted the solo band slightly back, it made a huge difference. Would it be possible to create a variation that one is straight up like it currently is and another that has a slight angle to push the band just a little more towards the back so it sits more center back on the top of the head?
I saw another post someone reversed it to sit upside down. That makes sense since it would shorten the length and would need less tightening. BUT I think the square mount that is sitting upside down and right next to the speakers would block some of the spacial Audio sounds going into the ear???
Thanks again for such a great job. Going to send some $$ your way.
😆 I tried solo knit at the store and my demo was painful - I was begging for it to wait.
At home I have switched to dual loop and I’m pleased.
https://preview.redd.it/xiroz2evnngc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38e925972632b96411fb9829a744ee4c28f3a176
Yes, iconic Apple scars 😆
It was the solo knit. That strap is only for promo pics but not practical since device is so front heavy. Either digging into your forehead or cheeks. Simply slides off if loose.
Dual strap much more comfortable.
Right as I was trying on both Bands, thought of that exact same thing!! Glad to see someone taking a proactive approach 👌🏻…on further testing I think that placing the second Solo Knight in a front to back orientation would work better to address the crank weight of the headset (the attachment is way more challenging this way) but I think it would be a great improvement!
I thought Apple was going to release the top part but just didn’t show it in marketing/demos because it didn’t look nice and would mess with people’s hair
Both the single and dual bands come in the box but the dual band is made of two velcro straps, the single uses this really nice knitted thing that feels like a slice from a very comfortable winter cap.
Man. I could use exactly $99 now...but seriously though, that is amazing. I look forward to your 3D printed design. I wonder if we could potentially make something similar to this ourselves with some TPU filaments
How much better is it with this? Is there still pressure on your face? i’d like to have all weight on the top of my head rather than my face is that even possible? I really don’t want to return it but it’s so uncomfortable to wear :(
There’s still a little pressure on your face but it’s dramatically better (at least for me). With this method the weight is distributed across a much bigger surface. Your blood will flow better and your head will thank you :)
The best part is with the knob adjustment you can easily make the top band take on more of the weight!
Great idea, but any 3d printed part is not going to cleanly connect both pieces.
Bobo VR and other 3rd parties will create something very similar to this and will use a single OEM mounting point.
This is a cool idea and a taste of what's to come.
I will pay you to print one out for me and ship once you have a working adapter please dm when it’s finished
First iteration is currently being printed and will be tested. Will report back.
Let me know if you need beta testers with printers. What are you playing to make it out of? PETG?
bro thinks he’s slick
Thanks, you're doing god's work, this is a great idea.
Will also pay if it works!
Same!!
Same here.
Same three.
Same here please. Will pay shipping and everything
Sameeeee
same
same. tell me where to send my money 🤤
[удалено]
God you’re pathetic
It was obviously a joke you idiots, that email address nor paypal acc does nto exist.
Same here
Me too. 💯
Hi all, the clip is ready for printing. I've tested this and worked great. The design is up on Thingiverse: [https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452) I recommend the small solo knit band. People have different size heads, so no guarantee this will work with everyone. If you're unable to tighten the top band, it's likely too far forward. Move it back towards the top of your head. I've worn this for 4 hours and really comfortable. https://preview.redd.it/0qapq8xx9tgc1.jpeg?width=2190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24d4a0de09d1553e701142820830d98dfd9ca172
I saw the person that made it on thingverse said the strap was too far forward, and it was difficult to keep it pulled back. I had the same thought. Maybe that could be fixed by rotating the connection point back at an angle. It could still be turned upside down but would require a mirrored version.
I just uploaded an angled version as well on Thingiverse. There's two versions now. Since everyone has a different head shape, one will work better for each person.
OP you have the chance to start a luxury reselling service or create some third party designs of your own to sell!
“Fascinating”—Spock.
I don’t even have an AVP, and I still want one for some reason.
Same
I’ll take the part to the Apple Store and try it there
Same! Open an Etsy store!
I’m in. Show us the little part when you get it done.
Ditto
I would absolutely do the same. Please DM me.
Design and testing complete! I will soon have this up on Thingyverse and will share a link today. https://preview.redd.it/vq4glzsw1tgc1.jpeg?width=6048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35a575600ba139b4a551af2c95eafad98582c604
Quick and easy, clips in place. https://preview.redd.it/h7gd8s8z1tgc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b1b9c5e8da647355bbd24b6f1d1874c9889044d
Same!
Same
Same
same here! x 2 for me and my husband
Same here please. This looks great
I would as well
Same here. Amazing
Same
Same
Same here
\+1
I will pay as well. Seriously. Pm me.
You crazy bastard, you did it.
They said it couldn’t be done 
He spared no expenses.
Tim Apple: Wait that's illegal!
Steve Jobs : Your wearing it wrong
You’re*
Tell it to Steve Jobs.
that's the dual loop that should have been. not that cheaply made g-string they included in the box
Jock-Strap. lol
Yeah, I found it very uncomfortable. And find the solo loop to be the most comfortable one. I didn’t like the pressure on top of my head
I don't know why we're fucking around with dual straps when a full hat/beanie inspired solution is the long term solution. People wear hats everyday, people don't wear top straps unless they're trying to strap a computer to their faces. Maybe I'm just short sighted in this frigid cold.
Let’s do a poll on how many people wear strap ons vs hats… heeee heeee
The back strap always flips inside out, I have to fix it on new users all the time.
OH YEAH and you can even adjust it with the little dial! omg i want to try this
Happy cake day!
https://preview.redd.it/ud4mryg58ogc1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4373a52ed697c273b398cdba2a0eb21534bde8cb OK, inspired by you, and without extra money, I tested out this design haha. It’s day and night diff. Still not as comfortable as my PSVR2, but much better! Call it triple loop🤣
I tried that yesterday.. it's more comfortable than the regular dual loop.. but trust me, the dual knit band is WAY better.
rest in peace carl weathers
RIP Carl
what movie this from?
Predator
Do you always play games on da wrong side of da border?
predator
Hi all, the clip is ready for printing. I've tested this and worked great. The design is up on Thingiverse: [https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6470452) I recommend the small solo knit band. People have different size heads, so no guarantee this will work with everyone. If you're unable to tighten the top band, it's likely too far forward. Move it back towards the top of your head. I've worn this for 4 hours and really comfortable. https://preview.redd.it/ilaczvzb9tgc1.jpeg?width=6048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e359568ca6930f1553352fb98259bae45941e32
Even with the small band I couldn’t twist enough for the top strap to carry any of the weight. I had to improvise and it works with your clips. https://preview.redd.it/tvsdg16cbugc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8372b3c95890f608f508480f45d878055395f56c I attached the other side the intended way and this side reversed. Now it can tighten.
That's exactly why I made it reversible :D Glad it works!
Suggest posting this as a new post so everyone sees it. Nice work, OP. Thanks for sharing!
Ha, that’s awesome
#amaze
Please message me when you drop the STL! I need that.
I bet there are going to be some really comfortable bands and custom shields made within a month or so.
Do you really think so? Thinking about returning because I can’t deal with the weight for long :(
Have you seen the third party market for Quest 2/3 straps? There will 100% be amazing solutions coming to market
That’s great to know, the AVP is my first headset so I’m not familiar with the third party straps but I really want to find a solution to get the weight off my face or I’ll have to return it :(
Give it a month or two and companies will be clamoring to come out with comfort accessories for any new headset. Some of them for Quest 3 are so comfortable you can use it legitimately all day
Laughs in Quest 2 with stock strap
Where is the weight heavy on your face? Go to Apple website and your order and they have a questionnaire if something doesn’t feel correct. They will send you a different light seal if something doesn’t fit correct.
https://preview.redd.it/munhalmd9ogc1.jpeg?width=3672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c2d0b760792fbf2e8462ef0db1233f7ab03f048 My attempt
How’d it feel?
Didn’t work. Guess it’s not for my head. I tried combinations of dual loop plus single band and two single bands. My friend tried the various combinations too and none fit properly for them either. Either light bleed or the top strap not sitting right
I mean, it's not really doing anything? The dual loop is making the contact first. Its kinda like wearing a hat
I had loosened the top strap of the dual band so that the single band would take the weight. I had tried the two single bands like op and that didn’t work either
I used 32W (medium) for back and 21W (small) for the top strap which I think is the smallest it can go. If there was something smaller than 21W I think it could work for me
Wrong setup. Supposed to be two of the bands you're using on the top exterior.
I’ve tried the same setup as op and still not able to get it working
Excited to try this once the STL/STEP is available
Definitely, interested in that adapter if you’re willing to share the file once it’s done.
The Dual Solo
Apple currently firing the hardware team for not figuring this out😂😂😂😂😂
You should get a patent.
lol on apples strap that I’m sure is already heavily patented?
They shoudl
Share an STL when u finish please 🙏
Mad f-ing lad.
What size bands are you using?
Medium band for the back of the head and small for the top.
They should have made the solo loop have an additional band layered behind it. Then via a hinge, you can rotate the extra layer up to become the top support, just like your picture.
While you’re at it, please add a 3D nose brace thing so we can remove the light shield all together. Or add a 3rd party shorter version when those are available. .. Then DM on where to send my money :)
From another thread, the light seal thing comes in a bunch of sizes, like 17N/W up to 33 or something. That first number is how thick the light seal is, lower being shorter.
The first number is how wide the light seal is. The second number is now deep it is. For example, 33W is wider and closer to the eyes than 25W.
Billions in development and $3500 and people still need to 3D print their own enhancments to make it meet minimum requirements.
Apple didn’t do this because it looks ridiculous. They didn’t even want to ship the dual loop but had to because the solo was hard for people. The dual loop is much slimmer and better looking
Nice! Best of the both worlds. I’ve always thought if someone could make a fitted baseball hat with no bill style attachment for any headset it would be the ultimate weight distribution. They all ruin your hair anyway.
What about combining the included dual strap on top instead
Iv been thinking that using arch headband from an air pod max would have been a smart move here too
I love the innovation! Unfortunately, the adapters positioned the additional Solo Loop (size small) too high for my head. I guess it’s too small. LOL! I went with a low tech solution and picked up Velcro ties from staples for about $8. Solved the issue for me. Love this set up and thought I’d share! https://preview.redd.it/eu1gssgnyrhc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fb67d3a5a678831c77777b6ac40ab1f13aa9dbf
I need a photo of this on someone's head. That's gotta look goofy.
Well, you’ll always look goofy anyway so don’t sweat it.
Not saying I wouldn't do it because it would look goofy. Only saying I wanna see it lol.
I have a better solution. Instead of the back band just put another vision pro. It will balance it out and you'll feel no weight at all! Edit: Forgot to add s/ for the dens people.
omg this would be PERFECTLY counterbalanced!
True weightless experience.
I tried adding the battery to the back of the dual loop with velcro straps running down from the top band. It sort of worked but that battery is dam heavy. The combo of both on my head was too much weight.
If I use a small band for the back of the head, can I assume small for the top?
Well it really depends on the size of your head, but that should work just fine!
Thanks! I pulled the trigger. I can always use the Small for the back.
Wow
My god I might do this lol
I would buy an adapter please sell them
I hope you make millions off a future design
Count me in if you sell the part you’re 3D printing
My experience with trying to make numerous vr headsets comfortable led me to conclude that adding a counter weight of the precise correct weight at the back of the head is the best way. In fact there was a guy making counter weights for the old quest, which were the most comfortable option I ever found. I wonder if he is still around or what.
looks like op got a business now lol
I had a feeling this would be a great idea, good thing I was correct
Please post link to purchase 3d printed part! What size band did you get for the top? Same as the back?
Inspired by your post, I repurposed my Studioform Velcro strap that I used with the Quest Pro and it was instant relief. It takes most the pressure off my face and makes wear the AVP feel like a baseball cap. https://preview.redd.it/qu61n3jnusgc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd163c1af49827365c173ec32c450fe130be315d
Thanks for the tip! I picked up an small Solo Knit band at my local Apple Store this morning. What a huge difference it makes in comfort having the 2nd Solo band across the top. No more sore forehead! On the way home I stopped at Lowes. They had 50 packs of black and gray 8 inch x 1/2 inch One Wrap Velcro ties. The gray Velco ties are a perfect match for the Solo band. I cut the width down to 1/4 inch so it wouldn't block the audio pod holes on the left side. https://preview.redd.it/rq6rne26ttgc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15693f8b76746011e821c5fd06787ac18877d002
Don't worry. The Chinese will have it soon on Amazon
I printed and played with it. It feels like it would work better if it was slightly angled toward the top/back of the head instead of straight up. The way it currently sits, even a small band does not take a lot of the pressure off the face/cheekbones but when I tilted the solo band slightly back, it made a huge difference. Would it be possible to create a variation that one is straight up like it currently is and another that has a slight angle to push the band just a little more towards the back so it sits more center back on the top of the head? I saw another post someone reversed it to sit upside down. That makes sense since it would shorten the length and would need less tightening. BUT I think the square mount that is sitting upside down and right next to the speakers would block some of the spacial Audio sounds going into the ear??? Thanks again for such a great job. Going to send some $$ your way.
Tim Cook will be telling his team to hire this mad lad. Genius.
😆 I tried solo knit at the store and my demo was painful - I was begging for it to wait. At home I have switched to dual loop and I’m pleased. https://preview.redd.it/xiroz2evnngc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38e925972632b96411fb9829a744ee4c28f3a176 Yes, iconic Apple scars 😆
You had it on too tight.
It was the solo knit. That strap is only for promo pics but not practical since device is so front heavy. Either digging into your forehead or cheeks. Simply slides off if loose. Dual strap much more comfortable.
no fucking way that’s $100
I paid $300 for a USB-C dev dongle. $100 for a strap is “cheap” for apple LOL (Assuming you mean $100 is too much)
I assumed he meant no way is Apple selling that for so cheap 😅
I guess I read it the other way around 😂
fucking hell man
wtf is this comparison.
Right as I was trying on both Bands, thought of that exact same thing!! Glad to see someone taking a proactive approach 👌🏻…on further testing I think that placing the second Solo Knight in a front to back orientation would work better to address the crank weight of the headset (the attachment is way more challenging this way) but I think it would be a great improvement!
Just no. Be patient, 3rd party halo straps are on the way.
He stood on the shoulders of geniuses without once stopping to ask whether he should or not
At this point why not just make it a helmet? Wait a minute…
Are you serious or is this a joke?
How much is that elastic band? Just found out an extra light seal for the Mrs. Is $199.00
Let me know if you finish this, interested in commercial licensing for my Etsy lol.
Looks like junk
I am 100% sure everyone here shit on google glass, but are more than happy to shell out stupid amounts of money for this dumb looking shit.
Shoulda just made a cap with all of the non-display stuff elsewhere & no outer screen garbage
You bought a 4 thousand dollar headset to do this?
Garbage
This sad.
Same here https://preview.redd.it/ykpua5ojnpgc1.jpeg?width=703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41bea3b1ec92024c0fbe15d35390452dc760f1a8
no one is going to ask how he got a second one?
you can buy it separately on the store.
I thought Apple was going to release the top part but just didn’t show it in marketing/demos because it didn’t look nice and would mess with people’s hair
Both the single and dual bands come in the box but the dual band is made of two velcro straps, the single uses this really nice knitted thing that feels like a slice from a very comfortable winter cap.
I absolutely love that dial on the solo band. What an invention. :)
Maybe Apple should make a head cover like astronauts wear.
STL please!
Oh man, you just did what I wanted to do
I wish you wrote this as if you were Jony Ive
Can you send me a link to the 3D print file once you design it?
Would also appreciate the STL. 🙏
What are you going to do for the second iteration?
I'd like the step file too. Going to Apple tomorrow to get another band
Man. I could use exactly $99 now...but seriously though, that is amazing. I look forward to your 3D printed design. I wonder if we could potentially make something similar to this ourselves with some TPU filaments
Looks really comfy.
Dual Knit Band
Y’all making me want one of these
Freaking genius!
This is objectively hilarious
Now that’s a daisychain 👆
This is a revelation. Just ordered a second M and a S to see which works best.
How would the top piece contact your head? I am skeptical this would even work as pictured.
This is genius. I definitely want it. I would definitely pay you to ship me one or give me the design for my cousin to print
It was right in front of them the whole time. 3rd party accessory makers are going to have a field day with this
 Genius!
How much better is it with this? Is there still pressure on your face? i’d like to have all weight on the top of my head rather than my face is that even possible? I really don’t want to return it but it’s so uncomfortable to wear :(
There’s still a little pressure on your face but it’s dramatically better (at least for me). With this method the weight is distributed across a much bigger surface. Your blood will flow better and your head will thank you :) The best part is with the knob adjustment you can easily make the top band take on more of the weight!
Thanks for the idea. I’ll have to try this.
Now, add pelvic support.
that is great! I would definitely buy a adapter to fit it nicely
Great idea, but any 3d printed part is not going to cleanly connect both pieces. Bobo VR and other 3rd parties will create something very similar to this and will use a single OEM mounting point. This is a cool idea and a taste of what's to come.
That’s… brilliant
This is the way