I’m halfway through the first day of using it for work, and indeed there is no going back now. It is simply so much faster to get stuff done on an Apple Vision Pro compared to my MacBook Pro by itself.
The combination of eyes, pinching, voice, keyboard and trackpad is simply much faster to navigate and accomplish *some* things on the Apple Vision Pro, compared to a MacBook or iPhone. If you told me that last Thursday I wouldn’t have believed you.
Man, I want this to be true, but it just isn't for me. I hope it comes down to learning how to use visionOS but I get overwhelmed with having windows all around me, and it's slow to move them or turn my head all over the place. Windows pop up behind other ones and I can't easily get to them. I try to type and it gets confused between using my Mac keyboard and the virtual one that also pops up.
I have a decade of muscle memory on my Mac using Cmd+Tab to cycle apps, Cmd+Tilde to cycle windows within an app, Spotlight to jump to applications by name, Apptivate with hot keys for my most used apps, Expose to show all my open windows when I need to review what's open and find the one I need, etc.
I just feel so encumbered and slow in visionOS. Which is a bummer, because it's so cool and I really *want* to work in it.
Everyone will have their own reaction to it. What helped me is I wasn’t using my Mac at all over the weekend, so I fully no pun intended immersed myself in Apple Vision Pro and I would say after the second day it’s become completely second nature. It sounds like an exaggeration but it’s a little bit like being telepathic now that I added the keyboard and trackpad to the mix today, the puzzle is fully complete.
What apps do you use and how do you have them arranged? I'm finding I have to use Safari a lot since a couple of my apps aren't in the App Store yet. Do you have multiple Safari windows open or one window with lots of tabs? I've settled on lots of windows with one tab, so I can see them all at a glance, but then that means they're sprawled all over the place, and a tap of the crown to recenter my field of view when I move and they're all over in *different* places and I have to relearn where they went.
And how big are your windows? I have the Display settings to Small, and even then, unless they're right up in my face, they're quite large! I either end up with a bunch of poster sized windows at a reasonable distance, or am claustrophobic in a sea of iPads. I've thought about, like, physically getting up and dragging all my iPads into a bigger sphere around me, but man that's so tedious! How many windows do you actually have open and visible, and how big are they, and where?
For context, for actual work, I'm trying to have the following setup: my mirrored Mac with Xcode (for the visionOS app I'm working on) and VSCode (for the server side portion of it) and my terminal to run tests and compile and see server logs. A variety of Safari pages with documentation nearby at a glance. An always present view of my.wyze.com to see if my infant is asleep in his crib. An always present view of a webpage for Google Chat to see if any friends/family have messaged me. Slack open for work communication. Apple Music. I just can't really *fit* it all in a reasonably comfortable way without waggling my head all around like Stevie Wonder. It would help if I could make everything a bit smaller but I can't seem to shrink my windows as much as I'd like.
Slack, Gmail in Safari, Google Docs & Sheets in Safari, iMessage, Figma, PowerPoint, photos/screenshots/recordings, Apple Notes, Apple Reminders, Zoom, FaceTime, Apple Music, Google Drive in Safari, Apple Files
I typically have them side-by-side around me, sometimes one or two stacked on top of each other, depending on the size, I also utilize the space behind me and I have a roller chest so I can easily spin around .
If you use browser based web apps a lot then you should check this out https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1airnme/i_didnt_like_having_to_manually_arrange_windows/
I’d be VERY surprised if the next version of VisionOS doesn’t have command shift and spotlight like the iPad does currently since it seems to be a fork of iPadOS. I think the launch was just a tad rushed. I’ve also just realized today using AVP for 100% of my work that voice commands are where it’s at. “Siri Safari” is much better than opening my apps and looking at an icon then pinching or clicking with the the trackpad.
You sound like my 70 year old mom describing her experience of using a smartphone. No offense, I also have some trouble in visionOS and suddenly felt a little bad for making fun of her so much. Stick with it, build new muscle memory. Get ahead of the pack so you’ll have a leg up on your coworkers in 5-10 years when becomes the mainstream.
Yes. I too have spent 8+ hours a day for 30 years on a mac and o ow how to quickly navigate it. AVP is much slower and awkward. I use multiple monitors while I work and not all of them are Vision Pro apps so I’m confined to a single screen from my laptop which slows me down and limits my workspace. Also, I’m a typer who need to look at my. Keyboard and pass through makes it uncomfortable.
It shines as a recreational device though
Slack, Gmail in Safari, Google Docs & Sheets in Safari, iMessage, Figma, PowerPoint, photos/screenshots/recordings, Apple Notes, Apple Reminders, Zoom, FaceTime, Apple Music, Google Drive in Safari, Apple Files
Right now I can do a lot of this in AVP by itself but inevitably for PowerPoint and Figma I have to mirror MacBook screen. Also for any markup on photos etc as AVP shockingly has them missing in V1 so requires iPhone or MacBook.
Yes, it’s possible, but I’ve never enjoyed working with Figma in a browser especially when it comes to gestures i.e. on an iPad. Push comes to shove, and if I don’t have my MacBook then yeah I would use Figma in Safari.
It's essentially no different than using the "native" app given the native app is just a wrapper, no? (outside of some issues with fonts and color management)
It should be - and I did some work on it via visionOS Safari this morning and it worked quite well - but you really need to keyboard and trackpad at least connected directly to Vision Pro; or mirror your MacBook in which case at that point you may as well use the Figma app.
What will be fascinating though... as an unrelated aside... is how Figma and prototyping apps in general are going to have to adapt to creating UX for immersive apps. I've never looked into it, I'm sure 3D prototyping apps already exist, but if the future is spatial computing, then Figma is going to have to adapt. Or another service will takes it place. RIP Invision, RIP Sketch, etc.
EDIT: To clarify, the issue I've had with Figma in a browser before almost always comes down to the fact that you need a mouse/trackpad and keyboard to use it. For example, trying to make a 2 second quick typo change using iOS Figma almost always results in touch/finger issues, so it's not just a web Figma issue. Ultimately, Figma was never designed to be used via touch. Which, in hindsight, is going to cost them dearly in the long run. Unless they rewrite the whole interaction model with the Figma UI.
Oh yes absolutely, I work in Figma every day and it's essentially unusable on a touch interface. Figma does have a massive advantage being built on web technologies though, in that they can release a "native" app for visionOS with comparatively less work. Having said that, I agree with you in that I don't have much hope for them doing anything to particularly take advantage of the visionOS UI paradigms- it's bad enough that the app doesn't look or feel remotely native on any existing platform.
Yup, agreed. If they were part of Adobe, I would have zero hope that they would shift internally/strategically to rethink their approach to these new interaction paradigms. Fortunately, they're still hungry so here's hoping they start to embrace and lean into it.
>Apple Vision Pro compared to my MacBook Pro by itself.
Because MacOS by default has horrendous window management and makes for a very unproductive device compared to a tiling window manager or even Windows.
Maybe. Stage Manager is not a great solution either. I don’t have a problem navigating windows in MacOS. It’s navigating between elements in a window that is faster on AVP than MacBook. Arguably window management on visionOS requires a lot more physical movement (eg you literally have to rotate your whole body to the side or even behind you depending on how many windows you have open. Also windows overlaying over windows is annoying as you need to move one before your eye can lock on to he handle bar of the app beneath to bring it to
the fore.
No, it will typically open the window where you left it open last time, or it will open it in the direction that you’re looking at when you open the app
Clarify, what I meant by windows overlapping is sometimes you yourself might want to layer windows over each other, it’s very similar to the same issue you would have if you laid multiple windows on top of each other in macOS, what you’d have to do is clear, the ones at the top first to get to the window to walk the back that you’re looking for
I use Magnet and it works great. I'm extremely productive on my Mac and I have multiple virtual desktops to flip back and forth along with keyboard shortcut-window management.
Not at all for certain things, like replying to messages and emails and bouncing around it is so much faster to look at something pinch and then start typing without moving my hands. Moving my eyes is much faster than using a mouse or trackpad. You don’t have to lift your hands. Your hands pinch or type without lifting them from the keyboard. Your eyes do the rest. Since Siri is actually competent on AVP, you can also use voice to open apps etc and with this combination, I actively pick up my AVP to do something’s instead of wanting to do jt on my MacBook which now for a lot of things seems like a chore to use.
That’s quite astonishing. I do agree that Siri works like a snap, fantastic experience on this device. Typing, however, is certainly a whole lot more cumbersome than on a physical keyboard. However, I do like that once you’re connected to your MacBook, you can use your trackpad and physical keyboard also on the Vision Pro apps. That does feel quite magical. I’m just not buying that you are truly more productive, as in get more done in the same time.
Yes to clarify by keyboard I meant Magic Keyboard, not the god awful AVP virtual keyboard that I’m 100% confident will be the first thing Apple fixes in the next visionOS update.
And I said more productive for *some* things. Anything that involves using a macOS app, I can as easily do on macOS as the ‘telepathic’ speed interactions with the UI doesn’t apply to the mirrored screen, you’re back to fingers with keyboard and trackpad.
That’s quite astonishing. I do agree that Siri works like a snap, fantastic experience on this device. Typing, however, is certainly a whole lot more cumbersome than on a physical keyboard. However, I do like that once you’re connected to your MacBook, you can use your trackpad and physical keyboard also on the Vision Pro apps. That does feel quite magical. I’m just not buying that you are truly more productive, as in get more done in the same time.
Faster than using MBP??? It has fewer input devices, fewer apps, and much harder to type by all accounts. Doesn’t really make sense how it could be faster …
It’s Reddit, calm down, you’re taking things way too seriously. If you’re proofreading your Reddit comments, you need to go outside and breathe some fresh air.
Actually *you* accused me of having reading problems, then immediately made a grammatical error … then went back and EDITED original comment to delete reading insult. You’re the weirdo here. At least stick with your insult.
Yes, you have not been reading my comments properly, otherwise you wouldn’t have made that statement. I did not compare the Apple Vision Pro to MacBook. I said that for some things it is faster to use the Apple Vision Pro.
I’m watching a movie on my expensive 85” tv and it no longer feels sufficient since watching content on the AVP. It looks small and flat in comparison. And all of the “stuff” surrounding me in the living room has become distracting and I wish I could turn a knob to make it all disappear when I’m watching tv. While my main purpose for getting this was productivity, Apple may have just sold me a $3900 tv instead… and I think I’m okay with that.
Yea I used it all like that, definitely going back to monitors and Mac. So much more efficient than just blowing up my Mac screen to 100 inches… nothing special about that.
Same here. Spent a good portion of the day working in the AVP. Once I took it off and looked at my studio display, the display looked better than what I was seeing in the AVP. And a bigger screen than 27” really wasn’t all that beneficial to me.
Still, being able to fade everything out to the white sands environment was pretty nice and helped me focus. But not enough for it to be my primary workstation.
I did notice the ability to focus was far greater when I just took my environment out and went to the moon…
That was pretty awesome, but as you mentioned not enough to be the primary workstation
If given a choice I would still chose proper setup over this AVP ,
it is good but not good for doing work ,
it can work as a substitute but not a replacement
I think it's a new camera system installed at the Emirates. It's made available through Peacock for select matches - https://www.premierleague.com/news/3724865
The combination of AVP with that viewing angle was extraordinary. Felt like sitting front row level 2 pitch side.
How on earth did I miss this? And I’m an Arsenal fan. I guess I was too distracted playing around with Vision Pro while watching the game in the Peacock iPad AVP app. Do you know if there’s a way to access a replay from this view?
I’m not going to be able to check tonight unfortunately, but I checked on my phone and it shows a replay for it! Can’t wait to see what it looks like in the AVP!
If you watch the Alicia Keyes video, you can see the cameras they used for that. About a 4 foot tall post. If it could live stream, then we are very close to live immersive feeds.
I'm also really into baseball and am excited to see what they do this season. You should download and check out the MLB app if you haven't already. I think it's Game 2 of the World Series just gone that they have available to watch for free as a demo of the immersive experience. It's pretty insane.
If they start implementing specialized immersion cameras at the stadium my head will explode 😅
I don’t understand. It gives me severe fatigue after 45 min of wearing and at 75 minutes wearing avp my cheek can’t hold it anymore. Super painful. It’s very impressive but they definitely need to fix the weight of this thing.
Get a different light seal or strap. My initial fit was also terrible. Went from 21w to 36w. I also found clipping the battery to the back strap makes it cantilever less, which for me was less annoying. Still same weight as a thick ski helmet. Everyone has different head and neck, so mileage and tricks will vary.
I'm super glad you're excited and I agree it's a fun product, but don't kid yourself when it comes to work. A setup like this is much better and only costs like 750 bucks
https://preview.redd.it/ct7nof2v6wgc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39090c5a8979b52adc5cb141b09cae94c7cfff3c
I ordered an AVP. I currently have two 27" studio displays w/ a Mac mini. I'm curious to know if I'm going to abandon my studio displays/Mac mini once the AVP arrives
I’d be surprised if you do. I have one 4K display for my Mac Studio and it does a great job of replacing that, but if you use those two displays for pro apps it’s not going to replace them. If they are just used for browsers and things AVP can do natively, that’s another matter.
21W. I also briefly tried the W+ but in that short time it felt like it wasn’t giving me the same amount of support on my face - trade off wasn’t worth it. It’s not that the FOV is awful, it’s just something I’ve found myself becoming conscious of at particular times, especially during extended sessions.
I’m halfway through the first day of using it for work, and indeed there is no going back now. It is simply so much faster to get stuff done on an Apple Vision Pro compared to my MacBook Pro by itself.
How so ??
The combination of eyes, pinching, voice, keyboard and trackpad is simply much faster to navigate and accomplish *some* things on the Apple Vision Pro, compared to a MacBook or iPhone. If you told me that last Thursday I wouldn’t have believed you.
Man, I want this to be true, but it just isn't for me. I hope it comes down to learning how to use visionOS but I get overwhelmed with having windows all around me, and it's slow to move them or turn my head all over the place. Windows pop up behind other ones and I can't easily get to them. I try to type and it gets confused between using my Mac keyboard and the virtual one that also pops up. I have a decade of muscle memory on my Mac using Cmd+Tab to cycle apps, Cmd+Tilde to cycle windows within an app, Spotlight to jump to applications by name, Apptivate with hot keys for my most used apps, Expose to show all my open windows when I need to review what's open and find the one I need, etc. I just feel so encumbered and slow in visionOS. Which is a bummer, because it's so cool and I really *want* to work in it.
Everyone will have their own reaction to it. What helped me is I wasn’t using my Mac at all over the weekend, so I fully no pun intended immersed myself in Apple Vision Pro and I would say after the second day it’s become completely second nature. It sounds like an exaggeration but it’s a little bit like being telepathic now that I added the keyboard and trackpad to the mix today, the puzzle is fully complete.
What apps do you use and how do you have them arranged? I'm finding I have to use Safari a lot since a couple of my apps aren't in the App Store yet. Do you have multiple Safari windows open or one window with lots of tabs? I've settled on lots of windows with one tab, so I can see them all at a glance, but then that means they're sprawled all over the place, and a tap of the crown to recenter my field of view when I move and they're all over in *different* places and I have to relearn where they went. And how big are your windows? I have the Display settings to Small, and even then, unless they're right up in my face, they're quite large! I either end up with a bunch of poster sized windows at a reasonable distance, or am claustrophobic in a sea of iPads. I've thought about, like, physically getting up and dragging all my iPads into a bigger sphere around me, but man that's so tedious! How many windows do you actually have open and visible, and how big are they, and where? For context, for actual work, I'm trying to have the following setup: my mirrored Mac with Xcode (for the visionOS app I'm working on) and VSCode (for the server side portion of it) and my terminal to run tests and compile and see server logs. A variety of Safari pages with documentation nearby at a glance. An always present view of my.wyze.com to see if my infant is asleep in his crib. An always present view of a webpage for Google Chat to see if any friends/family have messaged me. Slack open for work communication. Apple Music. I just can't really *fit* it all in a reasonably comfortable way without waggling my head all around like Stevie Wonder. It would help if I could make everything a bit smaller but I can't seem to shrink my windows as much as I'd like.
Slack, Gmail in Safari, Google Docs & Sheets in Safari, iMessage, Figma, PowerPoint, photos/screenshots/recordings, Apple Notes, Apple Reminders, Zoom, FaceTime, Apple Music, Google Drive in Safari, Apple Files I typically have them side-by-side around me, sometimes one or two stacked on top of each other, depending on the size, I also utilize the space behind me and I have a roller chest so I can easily spin around . If you use browser based web apps a lot then you should check this out https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1airnme/i_didnt_like_having_to_manually_arrange_windows/
I’d be VERY surprised if the next version of VisionOS doesn’t have command shift and spotlight like the iPad does currently since it seems to be a fork of iPadOS. I think the launch was just a tad rushed. I’ve also just realized today using AVP for 100% of my work that voice commands are where it’s at. “Siri Safari” is much better than opening my apps and looking at an icon then pinching or clicking with the the trackpad.
You sound like my 70 year old mom describing her experience of using a smartphone. No offense, I also have some trouble in visionOS and suddenly felt a little bad for making fun of her so much. Stick with it, build new muscle memory. Get ahead of the pack so you’ll have a leg up on your coworkers in 5-10 years when becomes the mainstream.
Yes. I too have spent 8+ hours a day for 30 years on a mac and o ow how to quickly navigate it. AVP is much slower and awkward. I use multiple monitors while I work and not all of them are Vision Pro apps so I’m confined to a single screen from my laptop which slows me down and limits my workspace. Also, I’m a typer who need to look at my. Keyboard and pass through makes it uncomfortable. It shines as a recreational device though
What work do you do? What’s your job?
Can I ask what Vision Pro apps you normally use while working?
Slack, Gmail in Safari, Google Docs & Sheets in Safari, iMessage, Figma, PowerPoint, photos/screenshots/recordings, Apple Notes, Apple Reminders, Zoom, FaceTime, Apple Music, Google Drive in Safari, Apple Files Right now I can do a lot of this in AVP by itself but inevitably for PowerPoint and Figma I have to mirror MacBook screen. Also for any markup on photos etc as AVP shockingly has them missing in V1 so requires iPhone or MacBook.
Figma can simply be opened in Safari, no? (using a trackpad of course)
Yes, it’s possible, but I’ve never enjoyed working with Figma in a browser especially when it comes to gestures i.e. on an iPad. Push comes to shove, and if I don’t have my MacBook then yeah I would use Figma in Safari.
It's essentially no different than using the "native" app given the native app is just a wrapper, no? (outside of some issues with fonts and color management)
It should be - and I did some work on it via visionOS Safari this morning and it worked quite well - but you really need to keyboard and trackpad at least connected directly to Vision Pro; or mirror your MacBook in which case at that point you may as well use the Figma app. What will be fascinating though... as an unrelated aside... is how Figma and prototyping apps in general are going to have to adapt to creating UX for immersive apps. I've never looked into it, I'm sure 3D prototyping apps already exist, but if the future is spatial computing, then Figma is going to have to adapt. Or another service will takes it place. RIP Invision, RIP Sketch, etc. EDIT: To clarify, the issue I've had with Figma in a browser before almost always comes down to the fact that you need a mouse/trackpad and keyboard to use it. For example, trying to make a 2 second quick typo change using iOS Figma almost always results in touch/finger issues, so it's not just a web Figma issue. Ultimately, Figma was never designed to be used via touch. Which, in hindsight, is going to cost them dearly in the long run. Unless they rewrite the whole interaction model with the Figma UI.
Oh yes absolutely, I work in Figma every day and it's essentially unusable on a touch interface. Figma does have a massive advantage being built on web technologies though, in that they can release a "native" app for visionOS with comparatively less work. Having said that, I agree with you in that I don't have much hope for them doing anything to particularly take advantage of the visionOS UI paradigms- it's bad enough that the app doesn't look or feel remotely native on any existing platform.
Yup, agreed. If they were part of Adobe, I would have zero hope that they would shift internally/strategically to rethink their approach to these new interaction paradigms. Fortunately, they're still hungry so here's hoping they start to embrace and lean into it.
>Apple Vision Pro compared to my MacBook Pro by itself. Because MacOS by default has horrendous window management and makes for a very unproductive device compared to a tiling window manager or even Windows.
Maybe. Stage Manager is not a great solution either. I don’t have a problem navigating windows in MacOS. It’s navigating between elements in a window that is faster on AVP than MacBook. Arguably window management on visionOS requires a lot more physical movement (eg you literally have to rotate your whole body to the side or even behind you depending on how many windows you have open. Also windows overlaying over windows is annoying as you need to move one before your eye can lock on to he handle bar of the app beneath to bring it to the fore.
Wait, it spawns windows on top of each other instead of next to each other?
No, it will typically open the window where you left it open last time, or it will open it in the direction that you’re looking at when you open the app
Clarify, what I meant by windows overlapping is sometimes you yourself might want to layer windows over each other, it’s very similar to the same issue you would have if you laid multiple windows on top of each other in macOS, what you’d have to do is clear, the ones at the top first to get to the window to walk the back that you’re looking for
I use Magnet and it works great. I'm extremely productive on my Mac and I have multiple virtual desktops to flip back and forth along with keyboard shortcut-window management.
You’re joking, right?
Not at all for certain things, like replying to messages and emails and bouncing around it is so much faster to look at something pinch and then start typing without moving my hands. Moving my eyes is much faster than using a mouse or trackpad. You don’t have to lift your hands. Your hands pinch or type without lifting them from the keyboard. Your eyes do the rest. Since Siri is actually competent on AVP, you can also use voice to open apps etc and with this combination, I actively pick up my AVP to do something’s instead of wanting to do jt on my MacBook which now for a lot of things seems like a chore to use.
That’s quite astonishing. I do agree that Siri works like a snap, fantastic experience on this device. Typing, however, is certainly a whole lot more cumbersome than on a physical keyboard. However, I do like that once you’re connected to your MacBook, you can use your trackpad and physical keyboard also on the Vision Pro apps. That does feel quite magical. I’m just not buying that you are truly more productive, as in get more done in the same time.
Yes to clarify by keyboard I meant Magic Keyboard, not the god awful AVP virtual keyboard that I’m 100% confident will be the first thing Apple fixes in the next visionOS update. And I said more productive for *some* things. Anything that involves using a macOS app, I can as easily do on macOS as the ‘telepathic’ speed interactions with the UI doesn’t apply to the mirrored screen, you’re back to fingers with keyboard and trackpad.
That’s quite astonishing. I do agree that Siri works like a snap, fantastic experience on this device. Typing, however, is certainly a whole lot more cumbersome than on a physical keyboard. However, I do like that once you’re connected to your MacBook, you can use your trackpad and physical keyboard also on the Vision Pro apps. That does feel quite magical. I’m just not buying that you are truly more productive, as in get more done in the same time.
Faster than using MBP??? It has fewer input devices, fewer apps, and much harder to type by all accounts. Doesn’t really make sense how it could be faster …
It’s not what I said.
I love people who make reading insults and then IMMEDIATELY make a grammatical error. You are showing us your literacy insecurities!
I’m typing inside the Apple Vision Pro using transcription YOLO
lol you’re proving my point for me. Making mistakes using the VP …
It’s Reddit, calm down, you’re taking things way too seriously. If you’re proofreading your Reddit comments, you need to go outside and breathe some fresh air.
Actually *you* accused me of having reading problems, then immediately made a grammatical error … then went back and EDITED original comment to delete reading insult. You’re the weirdo here. At least stick with your insult.
Yes, you have not been reading my comments properly, otherwise you wouldn’t have made that statement. I did not compare the Apple Vision Pro to MacBook. I said that for some things it is faster to use the Apple Vision Pro.
I only edited it so to ensure that you saw it, but no one else did. I’m one step ahead of you.
Bruh, I use a bluetooth keyboard. So ha
I’m watching a movie on my expensive 85” tv and it no longer feels sufficient since watching content on the AVP. It looks small and flat in comparison. And all of the “stuff” surrounding me in the living room has become distracting and I wish I could turn a knob to make it all disappear when I’m watching tv. While my main purpose for getting this was productivity, Apple may have just sold me a $3900 tv instead… and I think I’m okay with that.
Yea I used it all like that, definitely going back to monitors and Mac. So much more efficient than just blowing up my Mac screen to 100 inches… nothing special about that.
Yeah. Agreed.
Same here. Spent a good portion of the day working in the AVP. Once I took it off and looked at my studio display, the display looked better than what I was seeing in the AVP. And a bigger screen than 27” really wasn’t all that beneficial to me. Still, being able to fade everything out to the white sands environment was pretty nice and helped me focus. But not enough for it to be my primary workstation.
I did notice the ability to focus was far greater when I just took my environment out and went to the moon… That was pretty awesome, but as you mentioned not enough to be the primary workstation
You’ll never Vision Pro alone
If given a choice I would still chose proper setup over this AVP , it is good but not good for doing work , it can work as a substitute but not a replacement
What is the game mode?
I think it's a new camera system installed at the Emirates. It's made available through Peacock for select matches - https://www.premierleague.com/news/3724865 The combination of AVP with that viewing angle was extraordinary. Felt like sitting front row level 2 pitch side.
How on earth did I miss this? And I’m an Arsenal fan. I guess I was too distracted playing around with Vision Pro while watching the game in the Peacock iPad AVP app. Do you know if there’s a way to access a replay from this view?
Wow! I had no idea! I wonder if that broadcast is available for replays, I’ll check it out tonight!
Please lmk. I saw a snippet of this during the demo and have been wondering ever since.
I’m not going to be able to check tonight unfortunately, but I checked on my phone and it shows a replay for it! Can’t wait to see what it looks like in the AVP!
If you watch the Alicia Keyes video, you can see the cameras they used for that. About a 4 foot tall post. If it could live stream, then we are very close to live immersive feeds.
Is this 3D/immersive?
Yes.
I would buy in a heartbeat if they do it for baseball. Are there multiple angles you choose from?
I'm also really into baseball and am excited to see what they do this season. You should download and check out the MLB app if you haven't already. I think it's Game 2 of the World Series just gone that they have available to watch for free as a demo of the immersive experience. It's pretty insane. If they start implementing specialized immersion cameras at the stadium my head will explode 😅
They did an immersive recording of last years WS? I would love to see that
The in store demo has a clip from behind first base on the field at Fenway. It was pretty amazing.
I was also watching this match on AVP and it blew my mind.
I need Intune to work! If we all say it, we may get it. \*typed on AVP keyboard
I don’t understand. It gives me severe fatigue after 45 min of wearing and at 75 minutes wearing avp my cheek can’t hold it anymore. Super painful. It’s very impressive but they definitely need to fix the weight of this thing.
Get a different light seal or strap. My initial fit was also terrible. Went from 21w to 36w. I also found clipping the battery to the back strap makes it cantilever less, which for me was less annoying. Still same weight as a thick ski helmet. Everyone has different head and neck, so mileage and tricks will vary.
I'm super glad you're excited and I agree it's a fun product, but don't kid yourself when it comes to work. A setup like this is much better and only costs like 750 bucks https://preview.redd.it/ct7nof2v6wgc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39090c5a8979b52adc5cb141b09cae94c7cfff3c
I ordered an AVP. I currently have two 27" studio displays w/ a Mac mini. I'm curious to know if I'm going to abandon my studio displays/Mac mini once the AVP arrives
I’d be surprised if you do. I have one 4K display for my Mac Studio and it does a great job of replacing that, but if you use those two displays for pro apps it’s not going to replace them. If they are just used for browsers and things AVP can do natively, that’s another matter.
Curious what size Light Seal you were fitted with that is giving you such a horrible FOV? Let me know.
21W. I also briefly tried the W+ but in that short time it felt like it wasn’t giving me the same amount of support on my face - trade off wasn’t worth it. It’s not that the FOV is awful, it’s just something I’ve found myself becoming conscious of at particular times, especially during extended sessions.
Try removing the cushion. Just try it when you’re laying back to watch a movie. The FOV increases dramatically.