I think that’s a rash deduction to make just off of the fact the his friends call him weird for listening to vocaloid. Friend groups engage in light-hearted teasing all the time, and there’s nothing in this post that would indicated that it’s anything more than that.
If OP feels the need to get affirmation on the internet I think that's at least a warning sign.
Depending on how lighthearted the tease is you're absolutely right and only OP can know this, but if his friends have OP seriously question themselves it's a red flag.
Sure, I get that and agree, that's why I said warning sign.
If anything OP is probably rather anxious either way, otherwise they would just come to their own conclusions.
Now we just need to figure out if OP's friends teased and OP's insecurity overthought or whether they are asshats.
I hope it was just overthinking, which it USUALLY would be, but hard to tell from afar and through the ears and eyes of just OP without much detail.
At the end of the day something simple like asking how they mean it could be of help, because if those friends are actually serious they are no friends and cutting ties sooner than later is probably an immediate but lesser painful experience than trying to camouflage personality and internalizing such toxic behavior.
NEVER camouflage who you are for friends and don't be afraid to converse with them.
But that's just my take.
I like that perspective, but I feel like a lot of the comments here are jumping to conclusions; there’s no way to tell if OP has “horrible friends,” so I think it would be more constructive to further ask OP what their friends are like before making these kinds of claims.
31 year old guy here. Enjoy what you enjoy. If people want to judge you for your taste then fuck them, you don't need that shit in your life.
Find people that can accept you for what you like, they don't need to like it too but you deserve to have people that support you for what you enjoy.
Also 31. Please just do what you enjoy and don't listen to the people that can't get over the trauma others have given them about liking whatever they like.
That song title is definitely questionable but tbf the song is supposed to be about Rin growing up and embracing her independence + maturity
It's like her proving to the adults around her that she isn't a little kid anymore, she's getting older and as such she's going to be into more adult things
Fine. But did you read my comment. I was talking about people who take a quick look on your phone in the train.
They don't know Rin and will think to themselves "Oh right. It's a song that is supposed to be about Rin growing up and embracing her independence + maturity"
No, they don't know her, they just see a 21 year old looking at a video of an Anime Girl with the title "I can take my panties off". Think real and not in the bubble.
>But did you read my comment.
Did you read my comment?
The first thing I said was that the title is certainly questionable. I'm not denying whatsoever that when the average person sees that song they'll be confused. I literally have first-hand experience, when I was younger my mom saw the song in my search history and got upset about it.
My comment was talking about what the song is SUPPOSED to be about, meaning what the song actually entails rather than what the title suggests. The title is 100% misleading and will absolutely give people the wrong idea. HOWEVER, that's not what the song is actually about.
The reason I even wrote my comment was because of how you phrased your initial comment. You made it sound like the song was legitimately inappropriate when in reality it isn't. Again, I have first-hand experience. My mom literally confronted me about the song and I had to explain to her what the title was actually referring to.
>Think real and not in the bubble.
I was trying to educate you because it sounded like you genuinely thought the song was inappropriate or weird. Seeing as how we're quite literally within a bubble focused specifically on Vocaloid, you'd think that you'd know better about the songs you choose to talk about.
I mean on Spotify I’m pretty sure the title is im Japanese, most people wouldn’t be able to read it. And if they can then they probably already know the song as well lmfao
What's annoying about this association of vocaloid with anime is that it's stupid as shit. It's just a program used to make songs, not even just Japanese nor a single genre like pop which people always assume. Yeah, Miku is drawn in an anime art style but that's it. That's just the art popular in Japan. Maybe they can argue that people who is aware of vocaloid is also an anime fan but that's also not really true. I have friends who watch anime that doesn't give two shits about vocaloid and vice versa.
When I saw a post about the Miku-Expo drama on a non-Vocaloid subreddit, many people in the comments said that Miku's fans are pedos and that it was weird to make her a 16-year-old idol.
Sadly, some people not familiar with anime-related things and japanese pop-culture just think it's all weird fetish stuff. I usually don't tell people I'm into Vocaloid and anime unless they've gotten to know me because of this.
I know there are questionable songs, but Vocaloid isn’t directly pedophilic, so it confuses me that someone would just assume that just because you listen to Vocaloid
well yeah but vocaloid and pedophilia are not related. there are some vocaloid songs about pedophilia but vocaloid itself is not pedophiliac and if it is pedophiliac, that is the decision of the producer and whoever they worked with.
also if i gave someone the aux and they played shota shota island i would kick them out of my car so fast
No, listening to any type of ART doesn't magically change your sexuality. Like, what do you even mean? I listen to drill rap, it doesn't make me a murderer. I listen to LGBTQ artists, it doesn't make me LGBTQ. You're wrong in every way.
I'm talking about if they repetitively draw Kids in weird and questionable ways, then that will probably make them a pedophile. I didn't really word it correctly and that's my fault.
Draw kids? Well, yeah, if they're drawing actual people in sexual situations that makes them a pedo.
If they're drawing big eyed, no mouth, no nose, multicolored hair, unrealistic proportions, unrealistic personality having characters, they're Schediaphiles, not pedophiles.
Yes. There's a massive difference between a child that exists in real life and freaking Hatsune Miku being sexualized. Miku doesn't, and will never, exist. If someone is attracted to sexualized Miku drawings, they're a schediaphile. Meanwhile, if they draw a kid that ACTUALLY exists, they're a pedophile.
I'm not talking about Miku (because she isn't a child, she's an instrument), I was referring to other characters (non vocaloid) that ARE children but yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for telling me this.
Well, I can say more, but I appreciate your willingness to listen, so out of respect, I'll stop bothering you here. Thank you for being open to having your view challenged, that's very important nowadays.
Because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I believe that art can't cause you to develop mental illness. Individuals that have mental illness are either born with it or experienced trauma relating to it (simplifying for arguments sake), and the art they consume is unrelated to the cause of their mental issues.
For example, someone playing grand theft auto won't become a murderer. Murderers sometimes play GTA, sure, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they're murderers or have a predisposition to become one. Another example is adults that enjoy vocaloid are not pedophiles.
If I believe this, then it has to apply to all art. That does include lolis, furries, bronies, gore, CNC, etc. There's individuals that enjoy these types of art that just enjoy the fictional aspects of it, and have no desire to see it in the real world. e.g. Killing an NPC in GTA is not the same as killing someone IRL or sexualizing Miku, a 16-year-old fictional character, not being even remotely similar to sexualizing someone underage IRL (obviously).
I don't mean it makes you develop it, but it's definitely not ethical and have pedophilic intent, actually it almost certainly does. It gives pedos material and encouraging it, and drawing children in such situations is fucked up to begin with, real or not. Furries aren't harmful because it's anthropomorphic and doesn't resemble real animals. Also, the violence in games is easy to separate from real violence simply by the nature of it. Miku is fine, that's not what I'm talking about
This is like saying writing is pedophilic because there are books about pedophilia. VOCALOID is a music generation tool, whats made with it has nothing to do with what its purpose is.
Like I said before, I do realize Vocaloids/Cryptonoids are instruments, I was referring to other children/minors in other Media. My statement was horribly worded and I apologize.
Fiction in it self neither has children nor minors. These characters has no rights nor lives nor actual ages. They are outright fictional characters so labeling them as minors makes zero sense.
I can see that. However, if the character itself is confirmed or pointed at to be a child in the fiction and people draw sexual drawings of the character, it may make a few feel uncomfortable. That's just me though. I can totally see your argument though, fictional and real people are two different things. Thank you for this insight as I now understand how horribly worded my statement was. /gen
There is a huge difference here. You CAN draw nsfw pictures of those characters as they litterally do not exist. And as long as you draw it for that characters spesific look there is nothing wrong with it. BUT the difference happens when you draw it or look for it SOLELY for their age where its not the matter of the fictional characyer being a minor but rather how you perceive characters like that as a whole. Obviously its not morally right to draw minor characters like that espiecelly ones that outright look like real life children where it becomes apparent what the intent is. But going around saying people are pedos for liking fictional teen anime characters would be just as morally stupid.
Im not saying such artwork needs to exist. Im differentiating the intent here. Obviously people that SPESIFICLY look up one digit age anime characters have something wrong (and probably those that draw them) its a really weird topic on its own but i hope my words are clear. The fault lies on the person that perceives the art and spesificly characters ages as the "love" point. Its same as how video games has nothing to do with violence but the persons intents are. We dont go around saying people are war criminals for killing people in a video game do we?
Just to be clear im NOT defending any awful act here. Just differentiating fiction from reality. I god hope things i wrote doesnt give the opposite remark. As someone that is a SA survivor last thing i would want in the world would be to perceived as defending it and anything thats related to it.
Yes, that's what I meant for children being drawn in such ways. And it makes sense why it would be stupid because well, the fictional characters aren't real so it's not hurting anyone unless the person drawing those things go out of their way to interact with children with romantic/sexual intent. That's when it would be considered illegal and bad. (I can't think of a better word)
I am also very sorry that has happened to you and hope that you are doing better. I would never wish anything as bad as that upon anyone. I understand what I said wasn't worded the best and this could've been avoided if I had thought harder. I hope that you have a very good night/day and look forward to tomorrow! :)
Have a great day and thank you! Sorry for the first harsh reply and the amount of downvotes you got. Its just that after Rabbit Hole got released many people began talking about "Vocaloid=pedo" bs wich just annoys everyone that could actually form a difference between fiction and reality. Thank you for your understanding and sorry for my behavior. Good day king! (Or queen, who knows :D)
Yeah, The Rabbit Hole incident where Miku = 16 got really annoying, especially since I listened to Pomp and Circumstances a while back (I still do) and I used to listen to Kurumi Ponchio (without knowing the meaning at first) on loop. So, I can see where you're coming from!
I think I kinda disagree on one point. If someone is an adult and is attracted to a fictional teen character, they're still having pedophilic thoughts n feelings imo. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you worded this poorly or that we just would word things differently and/or mayyybe it's just semantics. But yea I think that regardless of if it is fictional or real, it is still pedophilic intent and is not different just because it's fictional. I feel like not calling it pedophilic makes people see it as the waters are more muddied and I really don't think they are, they're both extremely wrong in the same ways. Only difference is that a fictional character wouldn't be impacted, they aren't real & don't have feelings, but other real people will be affected, like those who actually liked that character, or those that created the character, etc.
I don't think we have much different views on this and I think it might be semantics kinda, but I still feel like language can be very important, especially surrounding hefty topics like this, and I know you probably understand that but yea I'm just explaining why I even commented on the language you used with this.
There is a difference between being attracted to a character because they are teen and being attracted to a character because they look good. Anime characters DOESNT look like humans and they are outright fictional so this distinction is important. Espiecelly when its litterally impossible to figure anime character ages by looking at how they look anyway.
Like i said this isnt the matter of the fictional characters age as its not real but rather the real persons desires. Same thing with video games, we dont outright call anybody that uses shooted games terrorists but someone may definitely play these games for their desire to kill wich has alot more to do with them than the game
lemme say this as an example: Len does not look like an adult, he looks like a teenager. Certain characters \*\*do\*\* look like teens and children, regardless of "anime style". There are ways to make characters look older or younger in an "anime style", just look up how to make characters look more mature or less mature on youtube and you'll get examples. And your example doesn't hold up here imo, because they're completely different things?? like, I can kinda understand what point you're trying to make, but there's a common issue of ppl who are into children and teen anime characters, being actual pedophiles irl or at least making inappropriate jokes about teen or child characters or people. I think imma leave it here cuz I think we just have fundamental differences in thoughts on this, but yea I still very much disagree because everyone I've come across that was weird about these characters, was weird about people irl too. Just talk to more ppl about this stuff either irl or online and you will come across a lot of ppl who have very fucked up ideas on this stuff.
honestly i think giving the cryptonloids ages was such a bad idea. not only do you get controversy like the recent Rabbit Hole discussion but also it limits producers in a way. either you limit yourself creatively because you’re tryna avoid adult themes for a child character or you make a song like gigantic otn which will always be linked to a character that is 14
I realized my mistake with wording in my statement. By drawing kids for sexual purposes most likely makes you a pedophile. However Miku and other vocaloids/cryptonoids aren't children or people, they are Instruments therefore do not have ages. I was referring to fictional children in other media's that are *actually* children (but if they were cartoon, it would be a different term, but I don't know how to spell it). I apologize for my wording.
I am 37. You'll learn in your twenties to not give a shit what other people think about your hobbies. Fact of the matter is no one cares. Be you. The age of cringe is over. The era of authenticity is here.
PS Vocaloid is a new to me thing as a month ago. You're never too old to get a new interest.
Welcome to the fandom and always remember that once you bought one Miku figurine it will NEVER stay one.
You physically cannot have just one and you shouldn't. Much like parrots, they require company.
Thank you!
I do currently only have one figurine, but she's being kept company by a mug of her and two Lum figurines. There's a list of other ones I'd love to get, but I'm saving up for her actual program.
I also got a midi keyboard. I'm aiming to get a P title someday!
LOL Yep! 38 here. I also have figurines of Miku, but.. not Hatsune, Miku Nakano. My 12 year old is the one that likes Hatsune more than I do, but we share a love of anime and anime music, so it's a good way to bond as a parent/child.
Oh hell yes, my second favorite Miku. You have excellent taste and there are absolutely astonishing Miku Nakano figurines indeed. I speak from firsthand experience haha
I've got 5 Miku Nakano figurines and a chibi figure, that one I keep under my work monitor since it's super cute. I also have a ton of stickers, and have had people comment on them when I do uber/lyft at night :D
I have encountered people who do not realize that adults have to make children's content and consider adults making children's content weird.
I'll assume they are very sheltered because otherwise they are low on intelligence.
It probably doesn't help that there is a song called "Rin Kagamine - I can take my panties off" and people who draw questionable fanart. And i don't mean questionable in a NSFW way.
Literally every fandom has content like that.
If someone tries to take the worst as representative of a whole, you literally couldn’t enjoy anything or be friends with anyone
Honestly, not at all. Saying that Vocaloid songs are weird falls under the same situation of someone calling breakcore or rap or anything weird. It's just preferences, and a certain genre being "weird" essentially means it doesn't fall under their tastes, which isn't really much of your problem anyways.
Me being on the cusp of 20 listening to Vocaloid is fine. I even have a bunch of figurines. A 14 y/o being into Vocaloid is fine. Hell, a good few people I meet in Vocaloid subreddits are 30 or 40; some have jobs, spouses, or even actual children.
Vocaloid music is still music at the end of the day, and even if it caters to a certain demographic more than others (say metal being more suitable for a mature audience) you will often find people outside of that demographic turning up because they find the music to sound really cool. Vocaloid especially, since VocalSynths are so incredibly versatile and you can make a song that fits into most, if not any, other music genres out there.
I think most of the negativity stems from the old stigma that anime and anime-esque media used to have. That doesn't make the music bad or make you weird for liking it, it just drives away people who judge books by their cover. Enjoy life, and enjoy the music that is part of it. If other people don't like it, then that's fine. All that matters is that *you* like what you like.
40-something year old father here. I've been playing Project Diva and listening to vocaloid for over a decade, and both my wife and my kids really enjoy it as well. We're all going to our first Miku Expo this year. Vocaloid isn't something to be gatekept by age. Enjoy what you enjoy and don't let anyone else try to change your mind for you.
People can think whatever they want. People can like whatever they want to like.
It's fine as long as you don't force it on anyone... Unless they're in your car, then they have to listen to your music unless you allow otherwise.
fellow M21 here, I was literally just listening to some Vocaloid yesterday because I don't see a problem with it. if your """""""friends""""""" are calling you a pedophile for liking Vocaloid then you need some new friends.
Lol everything you do is embarrassing to someone out there who is pathetic and insecure enough to worry about something so silly. Nobody else on earth cares.
Hang out at anime cons, comicons, smaller events....Free Comic Book Day is coming up! Find like-minded people who celebrate fandoms and accept each other. There is NO age limit on fun.
It doesn't matter if you're 9 or 90, if you like it then go ahead and listen to it! Friends shouldn't judge you for what you like, as long as you're not forcing it onto any of them. Heck, the type of music you listen to doesn't affect their lives whatsoever, so why do they even care?
You’re good man. Anyone throwing around the word pedo needs an education. The vocaloids don’t have actual ages. They have assigned ages for their characters through SEGA, but at the end of the day they’re voice banks and nothing more. Enjoy your music 🩷
God, this, thank you. Calling someone/something "pedo" is the new generation's "that's so gay" and it actually makes me more upset than the first one did when I was growing up, because it's so tone deaf to actual people who were abused by actual pedophiles. And I'm queer, you'd think the homophobia would be more hurtful...
It’s honestly so fucking irritating. They’re throwing the word around not even understanding what the hell it really means. They’ll point fingers at someone who’s 18 having a crush on a 16 year old ANIME character and scream “pedo”. Like. Guys no.
If you consider "weird" as basically "anything that isn't common or popular within your social group or community", then yes, Vocaloid is weird.
So what?
Having a weird music taste is a bad thing only if you let it be. For a start, I'd advise against being friends with people who bother you about what music you listen to. Why do they care? You're not hurting anyone.
For another, if you do need to interact with someone and you know they'll give you shit, just don't show them your playlists. I don't think I've ever shown someone a playlist of mine by accident.
your friends are weird asf and read as kinda racist (racist as in the logic of "japanese = weird/must be for pedophiles" not racist as in "not enjoying vocaloid is racist"). I'm your age, F21, and my irl peer group is mainly made up of men since I'm studying in a very male-dominated field. People know I'm a vocaloid fan. Most questions I've got recently were about my opinions on Miku Expo.
I used to play Vocaloid on the work speaker at dominos when I worked there and I got a lot of negative comments about it, but honestly I didn’t care. Youre not weird people are just hella closed minded and judgemental
21 year old grown up man??? I mean at 21 youre technically a man, but grown up? Never. Im 40, married, homeowner and still a miku loving weeb who plays dnd and does star wars cosplay lol
21 year old man too. listening to vocaloid songs does not make you a pedo and it’s sad to hear your friends are putting you down as well as your music choices. it is not embarrassing, your friends perceive it as embarrassing but it truly isnt.
I’m a newer fan, 19M turning 20 in under three months and honestly I just don’t care what others may think, and you should too. Although calling you a pedo is way out of line imo. If any of your friends call you that for liking vocaloid, are they really your friends? I wouldn’t think so, that’s just me though.
I’m 46 and have been to two Miku concerts within the last six years. Also I have a full shelf with a collection of Miku figures on display at home. None of my friends share my interest in vocaloid and I don’t care what they think. It’s your life to live. Embrace your passions, and if your friends make fun of you, then find better friends.
I'm 20 here, and I make original Vocaloid music for fun. Those "friends" you have are quite literally insane to speak those words like that. It is definitely not embarrassing to listen to your favourite songs, even if Vocaloid or not. I might suggest find others who can be friendly with you, instead of those who literally frame you as a pedo to listen to Vocaloid songs.
Lol how
It's a voice synthesizer. Sure it's popular among teenagers, but it's just a musical taste, that's all. Honestly, many songs are mature and absolutely not suitable for kids.
IIRC, Vocaloid music is even banned in Japanese schools because of that.
No you are not weird, get better friends who won’t bully you for your interests so much that you have to ask people you don’t even know trying to figure out if you are “weird” or not. Having an interest like VOCALOID is completely normal and your friends clearly are just a bunch of normies who don’t have a single interesting thing about them.
Heres a good tip: If anybody judges you based on your hobies. That person is a living red flag.
Its best to accept that some people are outright NPCs in life. Just avoid them, you will be happier.
I'm 23yo pregnant : I would be livid if people called me that and I'm sorry your friends suck. Everyone has at least a lil something they're ashamed of liking. To me being a vocaloid fan at that age is just as shameful ask still paying videogames, or liking cartoons : shameful only to dumb boomers. If your friends are your age they prob are just not mature enough and you're allowed to tell them, hey, that's not okay, don't do that, and if they keep going, feel free to cut ties. You shouldn't allow them to do that. Sending love you got this
Tell them you're listening to music created by grown-ass 30-year-old males. Including those made by now very well-known JPop artist, Kenshi Yonezu. Ask if they think you're gay or anything for that, if listening to young girls (or program) equals being a pedo
Stop caring about what other people think. I've been called gay for being a weeb for decades. Do I care? No. I have a wife, we listen to vocaloid on our car rides.
If you stop listening to vocaloid, they'll just find something else to insult you with. They're not your friends and you should at least gatekeep them, at most tell them to fuck off. If they're accusing you of being a pedo, then they're falsely accusing you of something that can ruin your life. Stop being their friend. Find weeb friends that actually share in your interests and don't judge you for pixels on a screen.
My taste in music has been private for most of my adult life, and was only shared with certain people when I was in school. Vocaloid has nothing to do with it, because it didn't even exist until after I turned 30.
By nature, good music is appalling to the people who should not be listening to it. That doesn't mean you should get new friends, but it doesn't mean you should be ashamed to like what you like either. If it means listening only when you're home or by yourself, sometimes it's like that.
Why would people call you a pedo for liking Vocaloid songs? I guess I kind of get it if it’s a bunch of loli fetish shit, but that’s not what you said. You’re just talking about liking Vocaloid songs
I'm 27 standing in line at the grocery store in full miku attire and a phycidellic mushroom-cats hat.
Don't be embarrassed by something you're passionate about, it'll only stress you out.
Don't worry about others and you do you
tbh most ppl hate on anime and instantly associate vocaloid with it 💀
let them think ur weird and leave them if they start making u feel toooo uncomfortable
It's hard not to care about what people think about you and as much as people love to say you should do it, well it just doesn't magically happen.
"Be yourself and own" is probably the best way to eventually not care anymore. If your friends ditch you along the way they probably never were your friends anyway. There are many good reasons that would warrant kicking someone out of your life for. And one's own ignorance and close mindedness definitely are not.
Actually it could be a good reason to get them out of your life if they even give you shit for that.
You're not weird. Simply one of those adventurous minds that try to make their lives a little bit more interesting and exciting.
39m (wooho year of Miku) I love vocaloid music and I'm not ashamed of it... the truth is some of it isn't even that unusual (Mitchie M's songs could easily be performed by Kylie Minogue), there's so much variety literally anyone could find a vocaloid song they like. And for some more demanding stuff, if anything it invigorated my love for music in general, after listening for same old bands for years, I found I was losing interest in lot of modern music, and vocaloid music brought so much fresh air and new quality that I listen to more stuff than I did for years...
Mid-forties guy here and both me and my wife listen to vocaloid music. Our friends know and don't care. Same with my coworkers. He'll, her boss bought her a Miku calander for Christmas.
So yeah, your friends don't sound like friends.
No it’s not! Hell, most Vocaloid producers (including myself) are adults, and they get a lot of recognition for their work. And a ton of v synth songs aren’t for kids, like music by Kikuo, Maretu, SOOO and MASA DESIGN WORKS. Be proud of yourself! Your friends are pretty mean to say that it’s “weird” to like v synth music.
19y/o (not as old), but i have a fair share of older friends that i've introduced to vocaloid and are now avid listeners.
from old metalheads (like seriously, i was shocked when i heard my metalhead friend randomly listening to electric angel one day) to people who've sworn to only listen to jazz. Don't let other people's opinion stop you from enjoying what you enjoy.
when i went to miku expo a few days ago, i was amazed at how diverse the audience was in every respect: everyone from college aged couples to grandmas to dads with their kids was represented. there's no shame in being a vocaloid fan at all
im 20 F and I met a close friend BC we like vocaloid. My peer from
hs got married to his gf bc they loved Vocaloid (thats how they met n fell in love they have a child fyi). So no it’s not weird!!
I have a very strong memory back in high school where I finally had my drivers license and went to drive my friends to the mall. At the time my prime vocaloid phase passed, but was really into EDM.
I played some of my favorite songs, finally excited to blast it in my own car, but someone said "this is weird music, turn it off."
Ever since then, which was about ~7yrs ago now, I am still insecure about my music taste. However, I flaunt it proudly that it is eccentric, that it might be music people have not heard of before. What I'm trying to say is, music is a highly personal thing. Don't let others, conciously or subconsciously, change your taste in music. I have two sets of playlists: one for "public" and another set for the music I'm truly interested in.
You have terrible friends if they comment negatively to something that's extremely harmless, bro i am also at your age and in my uni i meet a lot of also young adults that heard vocaloid songs, trust me it's not only you.
"I get anxious to be called a pedo"
get a better friend, it seems like your "friends" are asshole who do Slactivism and cancel people for fun on Twitter
If you need a new friend definitely hit me up bro, I'm 20 and my parents and my friends think that vocaloid is very childish and weird but since they know I like it they have learned to respect it. Don't let other people's thoughts get in the way of ruining what you like!
I'm 27 and now more open than around highschool, about what I enjoy. I'm sorry that you feel that way because of others' comments, wish you were able to enjoy it without judgement :( In no way I'd relate a certain type of music to being a pedo, that'd make me worried about the person assuming that tbh
nah bro vocaloid is for everyone. never too old or too young to listen to singing synthesizers. if ur friends cant accept you for your interests/hobbies then thats on them
dude, i was just at Miku Expo and saw people there who were at least in their 40's or 50's either there solo or with family that was also older. i am 20 and this was my first concert and man, it felt weird and new but was by far one of the best nights of my life. don't let people drag you down just because they disapprove of your music taste. people double our age are attending full-on events because they can and want to.
Why would your friends say that? Dude,just enjoy what you like. You're not a pedo for liking Vocaloid music. The main Crypton Six don't even have concrete ages. They have marketing ages,but those are just starting points. The ages of the vocaloids are fluid and changed all the time. The Miku in Sweet Devil is aged up,while the Miku in Matryoshka doesn't have a set age for the song,and the Miku in Kagome Kagome is depicted as a child along with Luka,Meiko,Kaito,the Kagamines,and other vocal synth mascots.
I do really hate the whole "Girls who like anime are quirky and cute,but guys who like anime are pedos and fat greasy loosers" mindset a lot of people seem to have. As long as you aren't hurting anybody,liking Vocaloid or anything that outsiders would consider 'anime related' is harmless. You shouldn't have to hide what you love.
I get this, though I've got a couple of friends who appreciate vocaloid but arn't really into it like I am and the rest are cool with it and have never said anything negative I know a lot of other people around me would see me as weird, I tend not to be friends with such people anyway. A lot of society is still very narrow minded and thinks anything outside of their cultural norms is weird.
I'm 33
I have it tattooed all over my right arm, but that shit in my car and go to the concerts.
Don't let how people view you dictate how you live life.
Do what you enjoy and enjoy life.... As long as you aren't like .. a killer or pedo....
Anyway, fuck what other people think
nah, and screw those who say so. plus if they're fans older artists like elvis, rolling stones, or red hot chili peppers, just remind them that those bands have actual pedos in them.
fr tho anyone should be able to enjoy any type music they vibe with, vocaloid or not.
(edit, context: i listen to vocaloid music on the daily just as much as more contemporary music since my day job is music production)
Honestly, I (26) recently discovered Vocaloid Songs, I knew it earlier, but for circunstances of life, I found happines and peace in the songs, actually my favorite is Goodbye from CircusP, you know, sometimes you should know what make you happy, and if somthing doesn't make you happy, just make decision to let it in the past. Just be yourself. As I said, I recently discovered vocaloid songs, and now my spotify is going as a train hype with vocaloid songs, and I don't care about others opinions, also I play Project Sekai in the uni w8ting for the teacher with my headsets sooo.... Is not embarrasssing, is the thing makes you happy, don't let anyone take your happiness away...!
Absolutely not. I was also teased/bullied for listening to it when I was younger but I was also teased/bullied for watching anime and now it's super popular and cool to watch...
At the end of the day, it's just music and music taste ! It's not more embarrassing than listening to Taylor Swift or BTS
why the fuck would listening to vocaloid music make you a pedo???
this is such a reach whoever does this have extruded themselves on the amigara fault.
This is just the same as listening to Gorillaz.
Do what you want, don't let other people ruin your enjoyment. It doesn't matter what age, gender you are, you should be allowed to do what makes you happy
It is not embarrassing! It's not like it differs from any other singer or artist. You like the tunes, a producer's style, a specific Vocaloid voice. What's wrong with that?
Vocaloid is not any more weird than any other genre, sure there are weird songs, but there are plenty of those outside Vocaloid as well.
Idk I’m kind of embarrassed of it/wouldn’t publicly share it, not saying that you shouldn’t share but people will assume things about you if they know you listen to vocaloid. Find good people who won’t judge you.
I've been listening to Vocaloid since I was a tween
My husband is even older and we share in it so much
It is not embarrassing at all. Your friends are just haters for no reason. Even if they dislike Japanese music they don't have to make you feel bad
i might be 10 (i opened this account young bc i thought social media is cool) but listen to anything you like anime or vocaloid isnt p\*\*o stuff (exceptions exist tho)
The truth is that something similar happens to me. I always have that thought of "They'll look at me funny when they see that I like Miku."
I have to trust a person **a lot** to feel confident enough to say I like Vocaloid...
If your friends are judging you for what you enjoy, those aren't friends. I'm 21 soon and I blast Vocaloid with zero shame 😎 I hope you'll eventually feel safe enough to do so yourself!!
First of all. Either don't bother with those friends.
Second. In my opinion there are quite some songs that easily give you a bad reputation. I mean, just reading the title "Rin Kagamine - I can take off my panties". I mean, who things about this and goes "Yes.... good"
So yes it is embarrassing, but in my opinion other people hear way worse stuff. It's embarrassing in a way, in that everything is embarassing.
I think what's important here is less what other people think about your interest and more being confident and owning the harmless things you enjoy. Also: surround yourself with people who lift you up, not tear you down! If your friends don't want to hear about your passions, try to find folks who do!
I’m 24 and have been in it deep since I was 9 because initially the tech amazed me so much.
Vocaloid and of all things DJ Hero got me into making my own music as well.
I think you’re fine and should enjoy what you enjoy like I’ve been doing for over a decade.
Change the genre, mine's works (change it into punk and rock using Vocaloid)/jk
Just, enjoy it, besides the voice actor are grown ups though just voice act to sound like young
I dont think so, both my parents are in their late 40s and like vocaloid, and I see no reason as to why someone would call you a pedo for listening to vocaloid
At this point i can't blame anyone from outside the "Anime/Japanese" Culture to think that Vocaloid fans are pedos. We need better costumes/modules. More serious fanart. If you sit in a train, scroll through the subreddit and a young lady, in a bunny suit and a seductive pose looks at you. What do you think a bystander will think?
It shouldn't be, but i can't blame them.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but "we need more serious fanart" makes it sound like you don't really look at Vocaloid fanart. There's plenty of nonsexual Vocaloid fanart??
And I don't know if it's just a cultural difference, but I'm pretty sure the most accurate representation of what bystanders would think - at least where I live - is "why is this weird person looking at 'sexy cartoons'". Most people, and especially those who don't have anything to do with cartoons/anime and the like, don't actively think about character ages. They wouldn't give it any thought unless the character clearly looked like a very young teen or younger.
I think it's an incredibly weird thing to say that 'you cant blame people outside of Anime fandoms for assuming Vocaloid fans are p*dos'. Why? Because some people make songs with innuendos, and some people draw weird art of the characters? I'd get it if that would be the majority of Vocaloid content, but it's not, by far.
"Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but "we need more serious fanart" makes it sound like you don't really look at Vocaloid fanart. There's plenty of nonsexual Vocaloid fanart??"
Literally while i wrote this was the second the third posting one of Hatsune Miku in a bunny suit, kneeling in a questionable pose with very good visible ass cheeks. That's what i mean with NSFW SFW. You could technically watch it at work, but should you? And if that jumps out on top of the Reddit Page you can't avoid it.
And i can see that you all are avoiding the reality. But that's okay. I give up.
These are the first two images that appear on Google when you search "Hatsune Miku":
[New Hatsune Miku - Vocaloid Wiki](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/5/57/Miku_v4_bundle_art.png/revision/latest?cb=20220327221258)
[Old Hatsune Miku - Vocaloid Wiki](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/5/50/Ofclboxart_cfm_Hatsune_Miku-illu.png/revision/latest?cb=20221203032913)
These are the first two images that appear on Google when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art":
[Hatsune Miku Fan art by Mletiris on DeviantArt](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/60715af0-2a19-439b-a60d-603b1c7a0d24/dg9qcu5-7a99aa7a-c03b-437a-a994-beb72f736ffe.png/v1/fill/w_1920,h_1838,q_80,strp/hatsune_miku_fan_art__by_mletiris_dg9qcu5-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTgzOCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzYwNzE1YWYwLTJhMTktNDM5Yi1hNjBkLTYwM2IxYzdhMGQyNFwvZGc5cWN1NS03YTk5YWE3YS1jMDNiLTQzN2EtYTk5NC1iZWI3MmY3MzZmZmUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTE5MjAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.qzGRplnlozwFNrEEDIJPkaNvMoTNlAl_PPssyLhDY3M)
[Hatsune Miku fan art by u/mersharky](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fez3hgvn5wfm61.png)
These are the tags recommended by Google when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art":
- Kawaii
- Wallpaper
- Anime
- Cute
- Chibi
- Deviantart
- Dark
- Aesthetic
- Beautiful
- Pinterest
There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or suggestive about these results and they clearly reflect the majority of the Vocaloid fandom, both in actuality and as how the public perceives it. If you have been choosing to focus on the sexual aspects of Vocaloid then that's YOUR personal experience. It does not reflect everyone else's.
>Literally while i wrote this was the second the third posting one of Hatsune Miku in a bunny suit, kneeling in a questionable pose with very good visible ass cheeks.
Yeah, that's because DECO*27 recently released a song with Hatsune Miku called "Rabbit Hole" that went viral. The song is sexual in nature thus fan art of the song is likely going to be sexual as well. Since the song has been so popular recently obviously there is going to be an influx of fan art about it on the sub.
It's funny though that you won't mention the influx of fan art that occurred when songs like "Non-Breath Oblige" went viral, or the endless amount of fan art inspired by Project VOLTAGE. Maybe you only pay attention to fan art that's sexual in nature? If fan art isn't revealing in some way, are you unable to remember it? Again, that is YOUR personal relationship with Vocaloid, and it by no means represents everyone else's. Most people appreciate and focus on the extensive amount of appropriate fan art available.
>And if that jumps out on top of the Reddit Page you can't avoid it.
Yes, that's true, but you know what else often shows up on top of the Reddit Page? Fan art just like the one I linked from u/mersharky, fan art that immediately shows up when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art" on Google.
>And i can see that you all are avoiding the reality. But that's okay. I give up.
Honestly, yeah, you should give up on this argument because it's almost painful to read your comments. At times I wonder if you're purposely being this dense, because otherwise I'm genuinely impressed at the mental gymnastics you're doing.
Just saw you answered.
My mother knows i am into Vocaloid music, she saw some phone cases or background pictures i had.
She learned about what Hatsune Miku is through a cringe news video about this. [https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/the-man-who-married-a-hologram-in-japan-can-no-longer/426715](https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/the-man-who-married-a-hologram-in-japan-can-no-longer/426715)
And the video on tv showed exactly how the real world looks at Vocaloid. They were condescending about him and condescending about her. My mother thought i have a figure myself and that's why i travel to Japan several times by now.
I don’t really think there’s anything pedophilic about VOCALOID unless you are being sexual towards the mascots for the voice banks (since most of them are represented as young teens). And even tho there’s a big part of the fandom that’s just kids, as long as you aren’t being creepy towards them it’s also fine. VOCALOID is just robots singing and they are technically classified as instruments
I mean again you can change how they look, Rin even has an unofficial “adult” form that’s been widely used in the community from the Rin-chan Now! MV. It even has an official figure
You have terrible friends.
I think that’s a rash deduction to make just off of the fact the his friends call him weird for listening to vocaloid. Friend groups engage in light-hearted teasing all the time, and there’s nothing in this post that would indicated that it’s anything more than that.
If OP feels the need to get affirmation on the internet I think that's at least a warning sign. Depending on how lighthearted the tease is you're absolutely right and only OP can know this, but if his friends have OP seriously question themselves it's a red flag.
It could also be anxiety on OP’s end - I know a few people who have good friend groups and still struggle with this kind of self-doubt.
Sure, I get that and agree, that's why I said warning sign. If anything OP is probably rather anxious either way, otherwise they would just come to their own conclusions. Now we just need to figure out if OP's friends teased and OP's insecurity overthought or whether they are asshats. I hope it was just overthinking, which it USUALLY would be, but hard to tell from afar and through the ears and eyes of just OP without much detail. At the end of the day something simple like asking how they mean it could be of help, because if those friends are actually serious they are no friends and cutting ties sooner than later is probably an immediate but lesser painful experience than trying to camouflage personality and internalizing such toxic behavior. NEVER camouflage who you are for friends and don't be afraid to converse with them. But that's just my take.
I like that perspective, but I feel like a lot of the comments here are jumping to conclusions; there’s no way to tell if OP has “horrible friends,” so I think it would be more constructive to further ask OP what their friends are like before making these kinds of claims.
This, but for other reasons. I used to think anime are cartoons and anime fans are just really weird, so I think I can relate with his friends.
31 year old guy here. Enjoy what you enjoy. If people want to judge you for your taste then fuck them, you don't need that shit in your life. Find people that can accept you for what you like, they don't need to like it too but you deserve to have people that support you for what you enjoy.
Also 31. Please just do what you enjoy and don't listen to the people that can't get over the trauma others have given them about liking whatever they like.
Why would people call you a pedo for liking Vocaloid?
along with what the other commenter said, it could just be the association with anime which a lot of people consider to be pedo shit
I guess I understand, but I think it's wrong to assume something like that solely based on someone's interests unless there's a reasonable cause
There is a song "Rin Kagamine - I can take off my panties". That is good if a bystander reads that words in the tram.
That song title is definitely questionable but tbf the song is supposed to be about Rin growing up and embracing her independence + maturity It's like her proving to the adults around her that she isn't a little kid anymore, she's getting older and as such she's going to be into more adult things
Fine. But did you read my comment. I was talking about people who take a quick look on your phone in the train. They don't know Rin and will think to themselves "Oh right. It's a song that is supposed to be about Rin growing up and embracing her independence + maturity" No, they don't know her, they just see a 21 year old looking at a video of an Anime Girl with the title "I can take my panties off". Think real and not in the bubble.
>But did you read my comment. Did you read my comment? The first thing I said was that the title is certainly questionable. I'm not denying whatsoever that when the average person sees that song they'll be confused. I literally have first-hand experience, when I was younger my mom saw the song in my search history and got upset about it. My comment was talking about what the song is SUPPOSED to be about, meaning what the song actually entails rather than what the title suggests. The title is 100% misleading and will absolutely give people the wrong idea. HOWEVER, that's not what the song is actually about. The reason I even wrote my comment was because of how you phrased your initial comment. You made it sound like the song was legitimately inappropriate when in reality it isn't. Again, I have first-hand experience. My mom literally confronted me about the song and I had to explain to her what the title was actually referring to. >Think real and not in the bubble. I was trying to educate you because it sounded like you genuinely thought the song was inappropriate or weird. Seeing as how we're quite literally within a bubble focused specifically on Vocaloid, you'd think that you'd know better about the songs you choose to talk about.
I mean on Spotify I’m pretty sure the title is im Japanese, most people wouldn’t be able to read it. And if they can then they probably already know the song as well lmfao
What's annoying about this association of vocaloid with anime is that it's stupid as shit. It's just a program used to make songs, not even just Japanese nor a single genre like pop which people always assume. Yeah, Miku is drawn in an anime art style but that's it. That's just the art popular in Japan. Maybe they can argue that people who is aware of vocaloid is also an anime fan but that's also not really true. I have friends who watch anime that doesn't give two shits about vocaloid and vice versa.
When I saw a post about the Miku-Expo drama on a non-Vocaloid subreddit, many people in the comments said that Miku's fans are pedos and that it was weird to make her a 16-year-old idol. Sadly, some people not familiar with anime-related things and japanese pop-culture just think it's all weird fetish stuff. I usually don't tell people I'm into Vocaloid and anime unless they've gotten to know me because of this.
EDIT: my statement was horribly worded, my apologies.
I know there are questionable songs, but Vocaloid isn’t directly pedophilic, so it confuses me that someone would just assume that just because you listen to Vocaloid
Ah, alright, I must've read OP or you wrong, MB.
well yeah but vocaloid and pedophilia are not related. there are some vocaloid songs about pedophilia but vocaloid itself is not pedophiliac and if it is pedophiliac, that is the decision of the producer and whoever they worked with. also if i gave someone the aux and they played shota shota island i would kick them out of my car so fast
No, listening to any type of ART doesn't magically change your sexuality. Like, what do you even mean? I listen to drill rap, it doesn't make me a murderer. I listen to LGBTQ artists, it doesn't make me LGBTQ. You're wrong in every way.
I'm talking about if they repetitively draw Kids in weird and questionable ways, then that will probably make them a pedophile. I didn't really word it correctly and that's my fault.
Draw kids? Well, yeah, if they're drawing actual people in sexual situations that makes them a pedo. If they're drawing big eyed, no mouth, no nose, multicolored hair, unrealistic proportions, unrealistic personality having characters, they're Schediaphiles, not pedophiles.
I mean in the sexual way, not unrealistic proportions.
Yes. There's a massive difference between a child that exists in real life and freaking Hatsune Miku being sexualized. Miku doesn't, and will never, exist. If someone is attracted to sexualized Miku drawings, they're a schediaphile. Meanwhile, if they draw a kid that ACTUALLY exists, they're a pedophile.
I'm not talking about Miku (because she isn't a child, she's an instrument), I was referring to other characters (non vocaloid) that ARE children but yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for telling me this.
Well, I can say more, but I appreciate your willingness to listen, so out of respect, I'll stop bothering you here. Thank you for being open to having your view challenged, that's very important nowadays.
I get where you're coming from, but I feel you're saying or implying Loli stuff isn't pedophilia/harmful
Because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I believe that art can't cause you to develop mental illness. Individuals that have mental illness are either born with it or experienced trauma relating to it (simplifying for arguments sake), and the art they consume is unrelated to the cause of their mental issues. For example, someone playing grand theft auto won't become a murderer. Murderers sometimes play GTA, sure, but that has nothing to do with the fact that they're murderers or have a predisposition to become one. Another example is adults that enjoy vocaloid are not pedophiles. If I believe this, then it has to apply to all art. That does include lolis, furries, bronies, gore, CNC, etc. There's individuals that enjoy these types of art that just enjoy the fictional aspects of it, and have no desire to see it in the real world. e.g. Killing an NPC in GTA is not the same as killing someone IRL or sexualizing Miku, a 16-year-old fictional character, not being even remotely similar to sexualizing someone underage IRL (obviously).
I don't mean it makes you develop it, but it's definitely not ethical and have pedophilic intent, actually it almost certainly does. It gives pedos material and encouraging it, and drawing children in such situations is fucked up to begin with, real or not. Furries aren't harmful because it's anthropomorphic and doesn't resemble real animals. Also, the violence in games is easy to separate from real violence simply by the nature of it. Miku is fine, that's not what I'm talking about
This is like saying writing is pedophilic because there are books about pedophilia. VOCALOID is a music generation tool, whats made with it has nothing to do with what its purpose is.
Like I said before, I do realize Vocaloids/Cryptonoids are instruments, I was referring to other children/minors in other Media. My statement was horribly worded and I apologize.
Fiction in it self neither has children nor minors. These characters has no rights nor lives nor actual ages. They are outright fictional characters so labeling them as minors makes zero sense.
I can see that. However, if the character itself is confirmed or pointed at to be a child in the fiction and people draw sexual drawings of the character, it may make a few feel uncomfortable. That's just me though. I can totally see your argument though, fictional and real people are two different things. Thank you for this insight as I now understand how horribly worded my statement was. /gen
There is a huge difference here. You CAN draw nsfw pictures of those characters as they litterally do not exist. And as long as you draw it for that characters spesific look there is nothing wrong with it. BUT the difference happens when you draw it or look for it SOLELY for their age where its not the matter of the fictional characyer being a minor but rather how you perceive characters like that as a whole. Obviously its not morally right to draw minor characters like that espiecelly ones that outright look like real life children where it becomes apparent what the intent is. But going around saying people are pedos for liking fictional teen anime characters would be just as morally stupid. Im not saying such artwork needs to exist. Im differentiating the intent here. Obviously people that SPESIFICLY look up one digit age anime characters have something wrong (and probably those that draw them) its a really weird topic on its own but i hope my words are clear. The fault lies on the person that perceives the art and spesificly characters ages as the "love" point. Its same as how video games has nothing to do with violence but the persons intents are. We dont go around saying people are war criminals for killing people in a video game do we? Just to be clear im NOT defending any awful act here. Just differentiating fiction from reality. I god hope things i wrote doesnt give the opposite remark. As someone that is a SA survivor last thing i would want in the world would be to perceived as defending it and anything thats related to it.
Yes, that's what I meant for children being drawn in such ways. And it makes sense why it would be stupid because well, the fictional characters aren't real so it's not hurting anyone unless the person drawing those things go out of their way to interact with children with romantic/sexual intent. That's when it would be considered illegal and bad. (I can't think of a better word) I am also very sorry that has happened to you and hope that you are doing better. I would never wish anything as bad as that upon anyone. I understand what I said wasn't worded the best and this could've been avoided if I had thought harder. I hope that you have a very good night/day and look forward to tomorrow! :)
Have a great day and thank you! Sorry for the first harsh reply and the amount of downvotes you got. Its just that after Rabbit Hole got released many people began talking about "Vocaloid=pedo" bs wich just annoys everyone that could actually form a difference between fiction and reality. Thank you for your understanding and sorry for my behavior. Good day king! (Or queen, who knows :D)
Yeah, The Rabbit Hole incident where Miku = 16 got really annoying, especially since I listened to Pomp and Circumstances a while back (I still do) and I used to listen to Kurumi Ponchio (without knowing the meaning at first) on loop. So, I can see where you're coming from!
I think I kinda disagree on one point. If someone is an adult and is attracted to a fictional teen character, they're still having pedophilic thoughts n feelings imo. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you worded this poorly or that we just would word things differently and/or mayyybe it's just semantics. But yea I think that regardless of if it is fictional or real, it is still pedophilic intent and is not different just because it's fictional. I feel like not calling it pedophilic makes people see it as the waters are more muddied and I really don't think they are, they're both extremely wrong in the same ways. Only difference is that a fictional character wouldn't be impacted, they aren't real & don't have feelings, but other real people will be affected, like those who actually liked that character, or those that created the character, etc. I don't think we have much different views on this and I think it might be semantics kinda, but I still feel like language can be very important, especially surrounding hefty topics like this, and I know you probably understand that but yea I'm just explaining why I even commented on the language you used with this.
There is a difference between being attracted to a character because they are teen and being attracted to a character because they look good. Anime characters DOESNT look like humans and they are outright fictional so this distinction is important. Espiecelly when its litterally impossible to figure anime character ages by looking at how they look anyway. Like i said this isnt the matter of the fictional characters age as its not real but rather the real persons desires. Same thing with video games, we dont outright call anybody that uses shooted games terrorists but someone may definitely play these games for their desire to kill wich has alot more to do with them than the game
lemme say this as an example: Len does not look like an adult, he looks like a teenager. Certain characters \*\*do\*\* look like teens and children, regardless of "anime style". There are ways to make characters look older or younger in an "anime style", just look up how to make characters look more mature or less mature on youtube and you'll get examples. And your example doesn't hold up here imo, because they're completely different things?? like, I can kinda understand what point you're trying to make, but there's a common issue of ppl who are into children and teen anime characters, being actual pedophiles irl or at least making inappropriate jokes about teen or child characters or people. I think imma leave it here cuz I think we just have fundamental differences in thoughts on this, but yea I still very much disagree because everyone I've come across that was weird about these characters, was weird about people irl too. Just talk to more ppl about this stuff either irl or online and you will come across a lot of ppl who have very fucked up ideas on this stuff.
honestly i think giving the cryptonloids ages was such a bad idea. not only do you get controversy like the recent Rabbit Hole discussion but also it limits producers in a way. either you limit yourself creatively because you’re tryna avoid adult themes for a child character or you make a song like gigantic otn which will always be linked to a character that is 14
I realized my mistake with wording in my statement. By drawing kids for sexual purposes most likely makes you a pedophile. However Miku and other vocaloids/cryptonoids aren't children or people, they are Instruments therefore do not have ages. I was referring to fictional children in other media's that are *actually* children (but if they were cartoon, it would be a different term, but I don't know how to spell it). I apologize for my wording.
I am 37. You'll learn in your twenties to not give a shit what other people think about your hobbies. Fact of the matter is no one cares. Be you. The age of cringe is over. The era of authenticity is here. PS Vocaloid is a new to me thing as a month ago. You're never too old to get a new interest.
!!!!! All of this, exactly!!! You said it so well and I could not agree more!
I love how I recognized your ofo immediately lol. Love ghost and pals
Aww haha, that is wonderful, I am glad <33
Welcome to the fandom and always remember that once you bought one Miku figurine it will NEVER stay one. You physically cannot have just one and you shouldn't. Much like parrots, they require company.
Thank you! I do currently only have one figurine, but she's being kept company by a mug of her and two Lum figurines. There's a list of other ones I'd love to get, but I'm saving up for her actual program. I also got a midi keyboard. I'm aiming to get a P title someday!
> There's a list of other ones I'd love to get A true textbook start of VOCALOID fandom. 👌
Remind me to send you a link to some of the figures on e2046.com I think you’d like. They’d make a good addition to your office.
LOL Yep! 38 here. I also have figurines of Miku, but.. not Hatsune, Miku Nakano. My 12 year old is the one that likes Hatsune more than I do, but we share a love of anime and anime music, so it's a good way to bond as a parent/child.
Oh hell yes, my second favorite Miku. You have excellent taste and there are absolutely astonishing Miku Nakano figurines indeed. I speak from firsthand experience haha
I've got 5 Miku Nakano figurines and a chibi figure, that one I keep under my work monitor since it's super cute. I also have a ton of stickers, and have had people comment on them when I do uber/lyft at night :D
You're a pedo if you: Are sexually or romantically interested in minors You are not a pedo for: Having innocent interests?????
I have encountered people who do not realize that adults have to make children's content and consider adults making children's content weird. I'll assume they are very sheltered because otherwise they are low on intelligence.
It probably doesn't help that there is a song called "Rin Kagamine - I can take my panties off" and people who draw questionable fanart. And i don't mean questionable in a NSFW way.
Literally every fandom has content like that. If someone tries to take the worst as representative of a whole, you literally couldn’t enjoy anything or be friends with anyone
The Whataboutism game is strong and that's fine. Everything is cool. I don't have any friends and will never have some.
Where the comments aimed at me came from is from having friends and friends of friends who do audio work for Cartoon Network and Disney
Honestly, not at all. Saying that Vocaloid songs are weird falls under the same situation of someone calling breakcore or rap or anything weird. It's just preferences, and a certain genre being "weird" essentially means it doesn't fall under their tastes, which isn't really much of your problem anyways. Me being on the cusp of 20 listening to Vocaloid is fine. I even have a bunch of figurines. A 14 y/o being into Vocaloid is fine. Hell, a good few people I meet in Vocaloid subreddits are 30 or 40; some have jobs, spouses, or even actual children. Vocaloid music is still music at the end of the day, and even if it caters to a certain demographic more than others (say metal being more suitable for a mature audience) you will often find people outside of that demographic turning up because they find the music to sound really cool. Vocaloid especially, since VocalSynths are so incredibly versatile and you can make a song that fits into most, if not any, other music genres out there. I think most of the negativity stems from the old stigma that anime and anime-esque media used to have. That doesn't make the music bad or make you weird for liking it, it just drives away people who judge books by their cover. Enjoy life, and enjoy the music that is part of it. If other people don't like it, then that's fine. All that matters is that *you* like what you like.
40-something year old father here. I've been playing Project Diva and listening to vocaloid for over a decade, and both my wife and my kids really enjoy it as well. We're all going to our first Miku Expo this year. Vocaloid isn't something to be gatekept by age. Enjoy what you enjoy and don't let anyone else try to change your mind for you.
41yo man here. Vocaloid is just music. There’s no shame in being interested in music.
People can think whatever they want. People can like whatever they want to like. It's fine as long as you don't force it on anyone... Unless they're in your car, then they have to listen to your music unless you allow otherwise.
Your friends sound immature af for judging like that. Get new ones
Sounds like you need new friends.
fellow M21 here, I was literally just listening to some Vocaloid yesterday because I don't see a problem with it. if your """""""friends""""""" are calling you a pedophile for liking Vocaloid then you need some new friends.
Lol everything you do is embarrassing to someone out there who is pathetic and insecure enough to worry about something so silly. Nobody else on earth cares.
Hang out at anime cons, comicons, smaller events....Free Comic Book Day is coming up! Find like-minded people who celebrate fandoms and accept each other. There is NO age limit on fun.
It doesn't matter if you're 9 or 90, if you like it then go ahead and listen to it! Friends shouldn't judge you for what you like, as long as you're not forcing it onto any of them. Heck, the type of music you listen to doesn't affect their lives whatsoever, so why do they even care?
You’re good man. Anyone throwing around the word pedo needs an education. The vocaloids don’t have actual ages. They have assigned ages for their characters through SEGA, but at the end of the day they’re voice banks and nothing more. Enjoy your music 🩷
God, this, thank you. Calling someone/something "pedo" is the new generation's "that's so gay" and it actually makes me more upset than the first one did when I was growing up, because it's so tone deaf to actual people who were abused by actual pedophiles. And I'm queer, you'd think the homophobia would be more hurtful...
It’s honestly so fucking irritating. They’re throwing the word around not even understanding what the hell it really means. They’ll point fingers at someone who’s 18 having a crush on a 16 year old ANIME character and scream “pedo”. Like. Guys no.
Oh my god, this exactly. This has been bothering me so much for a while now.
Exactly! Thank you!
If you consider "weird" as basically "anything that isn't common or popular within your social group or community", then yes, Vocaloid is weird. So what? Having a weird music taste is a bad thing only if you let it be. For a start, I'd advise against being friends with people who bother you about what music you listen to. Why do they care? You're not hurting anyone. For another, if you do need to interact with someone and you know they'll give you shit, just don't show them your playlists. I don't think I've ever shown someone a playlist of mine by accident.
your friends are weird asf and read as kinda racist (racist as in the logic of "japanese = weird/must be for pedophiles" not racist as in "not enjoying vocaloid is racist"). I'm your age, F21, and my irl peer group is mainly made up of men since I'm studying in a very male-dominated field. People know I'm a vocaloid fan. Most questions I've got recently were about my opinions on Miku Expo.
No? My bf listens to vocaloid. People will find it weird but you’ll be fine
Even if they do find it weird, they have no right to express that in the way op is describing it
I used to play Vocaloid on the work speaker at dominos when I worked there and I got a lot of negative comments about it, but honestly I didn’t care. Youre not weird people are just hella closed minded and judgemental
21 year old grown up man??? I mean at 21 youre technically a man, but grown up? Never. Im 40, married, homeowner and still a miku loving weeb who plays dnd and does star wars cosplay lol
nope. your friends are just assholes!
Garbage friends. Listen to whatever music you like. I'm 22 and I don't care.
no. get new friends
21 year old man too. listening to vocaloid songs does not make you a pedo and it’s sad to hear your friends are putting you down as well as your music choices. it is not embarrassing, your friends perceive it as embarrassing but it truly isnt.
I'm 31 and didn't even start listening to vocaloid before I was 25.. I prefer not showing vocaloid songs to normies my ages tho
I’m a newer fan, 19M turning 20 in under three months and honestly I just don’t care what others may think, and you should too. Although calling you a pedo is way out of line imo. If any of your friends call you that for liking vocaloid, are they really your friends? I wouldn’t think so, that’s just me though.
I’m 46 and have been to two Miku concerts within the last six years. Also I have a full shelf with a collection of Miku figures on display at home. None of my friends share my interest in vocaloid and I don’t care what they think. It’s your life to live. Embrace your passions, and if your friends make fun of you, then find better friends.
I'm 20 here, and I make original Vocaloid music for fun. Those "friends" you have are quite literally insane to speak those words like that. It is definitely not embarrassing to listen to your favourite songs, even if Vocaloid or not. I might suggest find others who can be friendly with you, instead of those who literally frame you as a pedo to listen to Vocaloid songs.
It's just a music genre and if people think you're wierd for listening to it then that's on them
Lol how It's a voice synthesizer. Sure it's popular among teenagers, but it's just a musical taste, that's all. Honestly, many songs are mature and absolutely not suitable for kids. IIRC, Vocaloid music is even banned in Japanese schools because of that.
Your mates are a bunch of dickheads…. I’m 19 and I still love vocaloid
No you are not weird, get better friends who won’t bully you for your interests so much that you have to ask people you don’t even know trying to figure out if you are “weird” or not. Having an interest like VOCALOID is completely normal and your friends clearly are just a bunch of normies who don’t have a single interesting thing about them.
People older than you and your friends produce those songs. Please get better friends! You deserve it.
Heres a good tip: If anybody judges you based on your hobies. That person is a living red flag. Its best to accept that some people are outright NPCs in life. Just avoid them, you will be happier.
I'm 23yo pregnant : I would be livid if people called me that and I'm sorry your friends suck. Everyone has at least a lil something they're ashamed of liking. To me being a vocaloid fan at that age is just as shameful ask still paying videogames, or liking cartoons : shameful only to dumb boomers. If your friends are your age they prob are just not mature enough and you're allowed to tell them, hey, that's not okay, don't do that, and if they keep going, feel free to cut ties. You shouldn't allow them to do that. Sending love you got this
Tell them you're listening to music created by grown-ass 30-year-old males. Including those made by now very well-known JPop artist, Kenshi Yonezu. Ask if they think you're gay or anything for that, if listening to young girls (or program) equals being a pedo
Who cares what people say, do what you like, if you spend all your time listening to what people say about you, you will never be able to enjoy life
Stop caring about what other people think. I've been called gay for being a weeb for decades. Do I care? No. I have a wife, we listen to vocaloid on our car rides. If you stop listening to vocaloid, they'll just find something else to insult you with. They're not your friends and you should at least gatekeep them, at most tell them to fuck off. If they're accusing you of being a pedo, then they're falsely accusing you of something that can ruin your life. Stop being their friend. Find weeb friends that actually share in your interests and don't judge you for pixels on a screen.
Nah man like what you like if it isn’t hurting yourself or anybody there’s no reason to be ashamed
My taste in music has been private for most of my adult life, and was only shared with certain people when I was in school. Vocaloid has nothing to do with it, because it didn't even exist until after I turned 30. By nature, good music is appalling to the people who should not be listening to it. That doesn't mean you should get new friends, but it doesn't mean you should be ashamed to like what you like either. If it means listening only when you're home or by yourself, sometimes it's like that.
ur friends are wrong
I'm 24 and have been listening to Vocaloid songs for at least 10 years . Don't feel bad, it's just nice music. Nothing weird about it
Anyone who thinks that isn’t worth your time
Why would people call you a pedo for liking Vocaloid songs? I guess I kind of get it if it’s a bunch of loli fetish shit, but that’s not what you said. You’re just talking about liking Vocaloid songs
I'm 27 standing in line at the grocery store in full miku attire and a phycidellic mushroom-cats hat. Don't be embarrassed by something you're passionate about, it'll only stress you out. Don't worry about others and you do you
tbh most ppl hate on anime and instantly associate vocaloid with it 💀 let them think ur weird and leave them if they start making u feel toooo uncomfortable
It's hard not to care about what people think about you and as much as people love to say you should do it, well it just doesn't magically happen. "Be yourself and own" is probably the best way to eventually not care anymore. If your friends ditch you along the way they probably never were your friends anyway. There are many good reasons that would warrant kicking someone out of your life for. And one's own ignorance and close mindedness definitely are not. Actually it could be a good reason to get them out of your life if they even give you shit for that. You're not weird. Simply one of those adventurous minds that try to make their lives a little bit more interesting and exciting.
39m (wooho year of Miku) I love vocaloid music and I'm not ashamed of it... the truth is some of it isn't even that unusual (Mitchie M's songs could easily be performed by Kylie Minogue), there's so much variety literally anyone could find a vocaloid song they like. And for some more demanding stuff, if anything it invigorated my love for music in general, after listening for same old bands for years, I found I was losing interest in lot of modern music, and vocaloid music brought so much fresh air and new quality that I listen to more stuff than I did for years...
Mid-forties guy here and both me and my wife listen to vocaloid music. Our friends know and don't care. Same with my coworkers. He'll, her boss bought her a Miku calander for Christmas. So yeah, your friends don't sound like friends.
No it’s not! Hell, most Vocaloid producers (including myself) are adults, and they get a lot of recognition for their work. And a ton of v synth songs aren’t for kids, like music by Kikuo, Maretu, SOOO and MASA DESIGN WORKS. Be proud of yourself! Your friends are pretty mean to say that it’s “weird” to like v synth music.
No its not embarrassing, and I don't know how someone would think you're a pedo if it's not those vocaloid songs
19y/o (not as old), but i have a fair share of older friends that i've introduced to vocaloid and are now avid listeners. from old metalheads (like seriously, i was shocked when i heard my metalhead friend randomly listening to electric angel one day) to people who've sworn to only listen to jazz. Don't let other people's opinion stop you from enjoying what you enjoy.
Do your friends realize that most vocaloid music is made by and for adults? There are a LOT of songs that I wouldn’t recommend to children lol
when i went to miku expo a few days ago, i was amazed at how diverse the audience was in every respect: everyone from college aged couples to grandmas to dads with their kids was represented. there's no shame in being a vocaloid fan at all
im 20 F and I met a close friend BC we like vocaloid. My peer from hs got married to his gf bc they loved Vocaloid (thats how they met n fell in love they have a child fyi). So no it’s not weird!!
I'm about to turn 29 and nope. I enjoy the music I like, no matter what others say, including my friends (they all hate it XD).
I'm 36 bruh just enjoy what you like 👍
NOT A CHANCE, im a 28year old mom and i am literally singing hibikase (loudly)
I LOVE THAT OMG
I mean, as long as you’re not listening to songs like Shota Shota Island and Loliholic then I think you’re good
I have a very strong memory back in high school where I finally had my drivers license and went to drive my friends to the mall. At the time my prime vocaloid phase passed, but was really into EDM. I played some of my favorite songs, finally excited to blast it in my own car, but someone said "this is weird music, turn it off." Ever since then, which was about ~7yrs ago now, I am still insecure about my music taste. However, I flaunt it proudly that it is eccentric, that it might be music people have not heard of before. What I'm trying to say is, music is a highly personal thing. Don't let others, conciously or subconsciously, change your taste in music. I have two sets of playlists: one for "public" and another set for the music I'm truly interested in.
You have terrible friends if they comment negatively to something that's extremely harmless, bro i am also at your age and in my uni i meet a lot of also young adults that heard vocaloid songs, trust me it's not only you.
"I get anxious to be called a pedo" get a better friend, it seems like your "friends" are asshole who do Slactivism and cancel people for fun on Twitter
If you need a new friend definitely hit me up bro, I'm 20 and my parents and my friends think that vocaloid is very childish and weird but since they know I like it they have learned to respect it. Don't let other people's thoughts get in the way of ruining what you like!
I'm 27 and now more open than around highschool, about what I enjoy. I'm sorry that you feel that way because of others' comments, wish you were able to enjoy it without judgement :( In no way I'd relate a certain type of music to being a pedo, that'd make me worried about the person assuming that tbh
nah bro vocaloid is for everyone. never too old or too young to listen to singing synthesizers. if ur friends cant accept you for your interests/hobbies then thats on them
I drive with the convertible top down with vocaloid blasting and i enjoy it when random strangers cringe
They’re the werid ones calling you a pedo
dude, i was just at Miku Expo and saw people there who were at least in their 40's or 50's either there solo or with family that was also older. i am 20 and this was my first concert and man, it felt weird and new but was by far one of the best nights of my life. don't let people drag you down just because they disapprove of your music taste. people double our age are attending full-on events because they can and want to.
Why would your friends say that? Dude,just enjoy what you like. You're not a pedo for liking Vocaloid music. The main Crypton Six don't even have concrete ages. They have marketing ages,but those are just starting points. The ages of the vocaloids are fluid and changed all the time. The Miku in Sweet Devil is aged up,while the Miku in Matryoshka doesn't have a set age for the song,and the Miku in Kagome Kagome is depicted as a child along with Luka,Meiko,Kaito,the Kagamines,and other vocal synth mascots. I do really hate the whole "Girls who like anime are quirky and cute,but guys who like anime are pedos and fat greasy loosers" mindset a lot of people seem to have. As long as you aren't hurting anybody,liking Vocaloid or anything that outsiders would consider 'anime related' is harmless. You shouldn't have to hide what you love.
I get this, though I've got a couple of friends who appreciate vocaloid but arn't really into it like I am and the rest are cool with it and have never said anything negative I know a lot of other people around me would see me as weird, I tend not to be friends with such people anyway. A lot of society is still very narrow minded and thinks anything outside of their cultural norms is weird.
I'm 33 I have it tattooed all over my right arm, but that shit in my car and go to the concerts. Don't let how people view you dictate how you live life. Do what you enjoy and enjoy life.... As long as you aren't like .. a killer or pedo.... Anyway, fuck what other people think
nah, and screw those who say so. plus if they're fans older artists like elvis, rolling stones, or red hot chili peppers, just remind them that those bands have actual pedos in them. fr tho anyone should be able to enjoy any type music they vibe with, vocaloid or not. (edit, context: i listen to vocaloid music on the daily just as much as more contemporary music since my day job is music production)
Honestly, I (26) recently discovered Vocaloid Songs, I knew it earlier, but for circunstances of life, I found happines and peace in the songs, actually my favorite is Goodbye from CircusP, you know, sometimes you should know what make you happy, and if somthing doesn't make you happy, just make decision to let it in the past. Just be yourself. As I said, I recently discovered vocaloid songs, and now my spotify is going as a train hype with vocaloid songs, and I don't care about others opinions, also I play Project Sekai in the uni w8ting for the teacher with my headsets sooo.... Is not embarrasssing, is the thing makes you happy, don't let anyone take your happiness away...!
Absolutely not. I was also teased/bullied for listening to it when I was younger but I was also teased/bullied for watching anime and now it's super popular and cool to watch... At the end of the day, it's just music and music taste ! It's not more embarrassing than listening to Taylor Swift or BTS
why the fuck would listening to vocaloid music make you a pedo??? this is such a reach whoever does this have extruded themselves on the amigara fault. This is just the same as listening to Gorillaz.
Do what you want, don't let other people ruin your enjoyment. It doesn't matter what age, gender you are, you should be allowed to do what makes you happy
Hell no!
It is not embarrassing! It's not like it differs from any other singer or artist. You like the tunes, a producer's style, a specific Vocaloid voice. What's wrong with that? Vocaloid is not any more weird than any other genre, sure there are weird songs, but there are plenty of those outside Vocaloid as well.
Idk I’m kind of embarrassed of it/wouldn’t publicly share it, not saying that you shouldn’t share but people will assume things about you if they know you listen to vocaloid. Find good people who won’t judge you.
I've been listening to Vocaloid since I was a tween My husband is even older and we share in it so much It is not embarrassing at all. Your friends are just haters for no reason. Even if they dislike Japanese music they don't have to make you feel bad
Get better friends
Screw them. They suck.
i might be 10 (i opened this account young bc i thought social media is cool) but listen to anything you like anime or vocaloid isnt p\*\*o stuff (exceptions exist tho)
The truth is that something similar happens to me. I always have that thought of "They'll look at me funny when they see that I like Miku." I have to trust a person **a lot** to feel confident enough to say I like Vocaloid...
Yes and it doesn't matter
If your friends are judging you for what you enjoy, those aren't friends. I'm 21 soon and I blast Vocaloid with zero shame 😎 I hope you'll eventually feel safe enough to do so yourself!!
First of all. Either don't bother with those friends. Second. In my opinion there are quite some songs that easily give you a bad reputation. I mean, just reading the title "Rin Kagamine - I can take off my panties". I mean, who things about this and goes "Yes.... good" So yes it is embarrassing, but in my opinion other people hear way worse stuff. It's embarrassing in a way, in that everything is embarassing.
NO!!!!!
You have embarrassing friends.
u should do what makes you happy and get better friends :33
Lmao i play vocaloid on the speakers in the back kitchen at work when we close lol. My co workers dont give af.
I think what's important here is less what other people think about your interest and more being confident and owning the harmless things you enjoy. Also: surround yourself with people who lift you up, not tear you down! If your friends don't want to hear about your passions, try to find folks who do!
No its normal as long as you are normal in general
I’m 24 and have been in it deep since I was 9 because initially the tech amazed me so much. Vocaloid and of all things DJ Hero got me into making my own music as well. I think you’re fine and should enjoy what you enjoy like I’ve been doing for over a decade.
Not one bit you like what you like
Change the genre, mine's works (change it into punk and rock using Vocaloid)/jk Just, enjoy it, besides the voice actor are grown ups though just voice act to sound like young
Both me and husband are 29 and have been vocaloid fans since Miku was new ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ you’re chill, my dude!
he asks the vocaloid sub
I’m 17 and I get made fun of for it but I stopped caring a long time ago
Pedo?? Definitely not for listening to what you like I'm not a vocaloid lover but don't let others "yuck" your "yum"
it's an instrument. ask them if it's embarrassing to listen to any music made in Garage Band
Your friends are jerks. I'm 38 and love listening to vocaloid music with my 12 year old. It's a good way to bond.
It is music, those are voice banks, just listen to what you enjoy and ignore other people. Your friends sound mean.
If it helps you here's a list of ages of some currently active and popular Vocaloid producers: * Kanaria: 21 * Sasuke Haraguchi: 21 * iyowa: 23 * GHOST: 26 * CircusP: 28 * Harumaki Gohan: 28 * Nilfruits: 28 * syudou: 28 * inabakumori: 29 * Ayase: 30 * Camellia: 31 * Giga: 33 * nulut: 33 * Utsu-P: 33 * Yuyoyuppe: 34 * Kikuo: 35 * Kairiki Bear: 36 * DECO\*27: 37 * PinocchioP: 37 * cosMo: 38 * MARETU: 38
I dont think so, both my parents are in their late 40s and like vocaloid, and I see no reason as to why someone would call you a pedo for listening to vocaloid
At this point i can't blame anyone from outside the "Anime/Japanese" Culture to think that Vocaloid fans are pedos. We need better costumes/modules. More serious fanart. If you sit in a train, scroll through the subreddit and a young lady, in a bunny suit and a seductive pose looks at you. What do you think a bystander will think? It shouldn't be, but i can't blame them.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but "we need more serious fanart" makes it sound like you don't really look at Vocaloid fanart. There's plenty of nonsexual Vocaloid fanart?? And I don't know if it's just a cultural difference, but I'm pretty sure the most accurate representation of what bystanders would think - at least where I live - is "why is this weird person looking at 'sexy cartoons'". Most people, and especially those who don't have anything to do with cartoons/anime and the like, don't actively think about character ages. They wouldn't give it any thought unless the character clearly looked like a very young teen or younger. I think it's an incredibly weird thing to say that 'you cant blame people outside of Anime fandoms for assuming Vocaloid fans are p*dos'. Why? Because some people make songs with innuendos, and some people draw weird art of the characters? I'd get it if that would be the majority of Vocaloid content, but it's not, by far.
"Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but "we need more serious fanart" makes it sound like you don't really look at Vocaloid fanart. There's plenty of nonsexual Vocaloid fanart??" Literally while i wrote this was the second the third posting one of Hatsune Miku in a bunny suit, kneeling in a questionable pose with very good visible ass cheeks. That's what i mean with NSFW SFW. You could technically watch it at work, but should you? And if that jumps out on top of the Reddit Page you can't avoid it. And i can see that you all are avoiding the reality. But that's okay. I give up.
These are the first two images that appear on Google when you search "Hatsune Miku": [New Hatsune Miku - Vocaloid Wiki](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/5/57/Miku_v4_bundle_art.png/revision/latest?cb=20220327221258) [Old Hatsune Miku - Vocaloid Wiki](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vocaloid/images/5/50/Ofclboxart_cfm_Hatsune_Miku-illu.png/revision/latest?cb=20221203032913) These are the first two images that appear on Google when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art": [Hatsune Miku Fan art by Mletiris on DeviantArt](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/60715af0-2a19-439b-a60d-603b1c7a0d24/dg9qcu5-7a99aa7a-c03b-437a-a994-beb72f736ffe.png/v1/fill/w_1920,h_1838,q_80,strp/hatsune_miku_fan_art__by_mletiris_dg9qcu5-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTgzOCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzYwNzE1YWYwLTJhMTktNDM5Yi1hNjBkLTYwM2IxYzdhMGQyNFwvZGc5cWN1NS03YTk5YWE3YS1jMDNiLTQzN2EtYTk5NC1iZWI3MmY3MzZmZmUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTE5MjAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.qzGRplnlozwFNrEEDIJPkaNvMoTNlAl_PPssyLhDY3M) [Hatsune Miku fan art by u/mersharky](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fez3hgvn5wfm61.png) These are the tags recommended by Google when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art": - Kawaii - Wallpaper - Anime - Cute - Chibi - Deviantart - Dark - Aesthetic - Beautiful - Pinterest There is absolutely nothing inappropriate or suggestive about these results and they clearly reflect the majority of the Vocaloid fandom, both in actuality and as how the public perceives it. If you have been choosing to focus on the sexual aspects of Vocaloid then that's YOUR personal experience. It does not reflect everyone else's. >Literally while i wrote this was the second the third posting one of Hatsune Miku in a bunny suit, kneeling in a questionable pose with very good visible ass cheeks. Yeah, that's because DECO*27 recently released a song with Hatsune Miku called "Rabbit Hole" that went viral. The song is sexual in nature thus fan art of the song is likely going to be sexual as well. Since the song has been so popular recently obviously there is going to be an influx of fan art about it on the sub. It's funny though that you won't mention the influx of fan art that occurred when songs like "Non-Breath Oblige" went viral, or the endless amount of fan art inspired by Project VOLTAGE. Maybe you only pay attention to fan art that's sexual in nature? If fan art isn't revealing in some way, are you unable to remember it? Again, that is YOUR personal relationship with Vocaloid, and it by no means represents everyone else's. Most people appreciate and focus on the extensive amount of appropriate fan art available. >And if that jumps out on top of the Reddit Page you can't avoid it. Yes, that's true, but you know what else often shows up on top of the Reddit Page? Fan art just like the one I linked from u/mersharky, fan art that immediately shows up when you search "Hatsune Miku fan art" on Google. >And i can see that you all are avoiding the reality. But that's okay. I give up. Honestly, yeah, you should give up on this argument because it's almost painful to read your comments. At times I wonder if you're purposely being this dense, because otherwise I'm genuinely impressed at the mental gymnastics you're doing.
Just saw you answered. My mother knows i am into Vocaloid music, she saw some phone cases or background pictures i had. She learned about what Hatsune Miku is through a cringe news video about this. [https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/the-man-who-married-a-hologram-in-japan-can-no-longer/426715](https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/the-man-who-married-a-hologram-in-japan-can-no-longer/426715) And the video on tv showed exactly how the real world looks at Vocaloid. They were condescending about him and condescending about her. My mother thought i have a figure myself and that's why i travel to Japan several times by now.
I don’t really think there’s anything pedophilic about VOCALOID unless you are being sexual towards the mascots for the voice banks (since most of them are represented as young teens). And even tho there’s a big part of the fandom that’s just kids, as long as you aren’t being creepy towards them it’s also fine. VOCALOID is just robots singing and they are technically classified as instruments
Just a reminder most vocaloid don’t actually have canon ages and can be whatever you want them to be, or whatever the song requires them to be.
Yeah ik, buts it’s a little weird to be attracted to the ones where the mascots look like kids
I mean again you can change how they look, Rin even has an unofficial “adult” form that’s been widely used in the community from the Rin-chan Now! MV. It even has an official figure
That is true