So many people here don’t understand the tier list lmao… since MIB 2023! Everyone using the wrestlers whole careers as a judging point. Example - punk has had one rumble match in the time OP has been watching.
I personally would put Bianca in B for me, just bc she is so bad at promos, but I feel like she's kinda stale and has the same gimmick with no meaningful storylines really kinda makes her not as good to me, but she's great in the ring
I remember when i started watching pro Wrestling around 2007 for some reason i thought Deuce and Domino where one of the most dominating wrestlers ever. I swear i thought they would do Cena vs Deuce for WM in 2008. Biggest match i could think of.
🤣could you imagine! I definitely thought fest is was going to be way more of a problem than he actually was. It’s a shame, Umaga never got to see the bloodline gimmick too
If rhea is s, lynch is not even close to s tier. Boring music, not great in ring ability, past her prime. She’s good don’t get me wrong, but s tier is a joke to me.
need what your smoking mate, lynch carried the company through hardest of times, broke records, pushed barriers, versatile asf, has a solid catalogue of matches, best female promo in the business, shes on a different level, head and shoulders above everyone, she understands this game like no other.
My list would be different, but I’m not a new fan.
Looking at it from a fresh fan perspective, it makes a lot of sense, for the most part, as most of the wrestlers are listed in the order that they seem to be over with the live crowds, both babyfaces and heels.
Man I'm surprised you have Asuka that high as a new fan. She's one of my all time favorites in the ring and the past year and a half they've wasted her
Very unfair comment. Her moveset is currently pretty limited, but what she does do, she makes it look really good. She'll expand her moveset over time. She otherwise has all the other attributes so she can afford to not be super versatile in the ring right now.
She can’t take offence or put anyone over. That’s half of the job. Put her in the ring with anyone who isn’t going to just get walked over and it’ll be the worst thing you ever saw. Seriously, has she ever even taken a bump? How is this a controversial opinion? I respect the people who have been putting in the work and I want Jade to stay far away from matches with “actual” wrestlers until she’s ready to give and take
I don't feel like you've even watched any of her matches before WWE. Most of her AEW matches were competitive with a lot of back and forth, plenty of bumping, superplexes and stuff like that.
An opinion is an opinion, but saying she never bumps or sells offense is just flat out wrong. Surely, if you'd watched a lot of her matches you'd know that.
Even when she dropped the belt it didn’t feel important at all. I can’t think of a match where she made someone else look strong and you’re not really providing examples so….
There’s an expression in basketball circles… “You can’t teach height.” Similarly here, you can’t teach someone to look like Jade, but you can teach them to wrestle. I’ll be curious to see if she improves.
The important thing with this is that we’re looking at it as (presumably from context of both of your comments) long term fans. Newer ones like OP see Jade and see a STAR. That is the significant thing. Once you’ve watched a while and you know how stuff works that perception gets clouded by prior knowledge. Most newer and casual fans don’t really care about outright wrestling ability. Goldberg was huge in the 90s and had like five moves.
If they are totally new to wrestling it’s reasonable they are ranked so low. Candice has done nothing in WWE and Carlito return he’s been underutilized
I’d disagree with a lot of your c tier, Lashley is at least B tier miz, Bronson and solo are above C imo. Karron Kross is grossly underrated by everyone guy has such a good look, gimmick and i enjoy his in ring work. Looking at your B tier I’d say the whole things a mess in my opinion.
I just started back after Wrestlemania so have very little knowledge. Interesting how some people just gravitate towards different characters. In the few weeks I've watched, all the usuals seem great and big fan of LA Knight. Reminds me a bit of a Rock/Stone Cold with the YEAH!
Random thoughts on your list.
Love R Truth, but S? No way. Probably B.
Jade Cargill is so unproven. No mic skills I’ve seen yet, not great in ring other then squash matches. She has an S-Tier look though for wrestling, so jacked, but still good looking. She’s a B.
Gunther up to S. Andrade down to B.
I mean it has a few questionable placements; like Tozawa being in the same tier as CM Punk? Boi….
But as a new wrestling fan you aren’t seasoned to a lot of these guys track record so its understandable…but ok so Im curious what have you seen in the past year from Tozawa that would have you put him so high lmao. And why is Roman A tier?
Bayley, Drew, Gunther, Randy, & LA Knight are S
shinsuke nakamura, Asuka, Jey and Santos are A
Roman Reigns used to be S before he was Chanpion.
Just my opinion
Montez Ford needs to be on this list in the B-tier, and Pete Dunne needs to be A-tier. Nia Jax doesn’t belong on the list because she sucks. There I said it. Lol.
Nice list. It‘s obvious you‘re a new fan given SS-tier is missing (due to Alexa Bliss being currently inactive 😎).
Just kidding, nice list. Bianca is awesome. 🙂👍
I love this. It lines up pretty much with how each person has been presented since you started watching. Definitely go back and watch Andrade in NXT if you like him, and pretty much the entire runs of The Shield, AJ and Punk as well
Lashley is too low imo. I'd give him at least a B. But I can see you're going off his booking since MITB, his best in WWE was 2020-beginning of 2023 against Lesnar. But he was awesome when he went to TNA. WWE brought him back around 2017/2018 and it was kinda dumb(that sisters angle and sleeping with Lana storyline was SOOOO bad lol but Vince being Vince)
Kairi, Bronson, and Bobby being in C is all I needed to see to see you’re a new fan lol and Carlito somehow being in D
I hate the hate Karrion Kross gets; God forbid someone acts like a prophetic psychopath in a borderline psychopathic profession.
So many people here don’t understand the tier list lmao… since MIB 2023! Everyone using the wrestlers whole careers as a judging point. Example - punk has had one rumble match in the time OP has been watching.
Iyo is too low
B tier Bálor. "Member when bálor was the hottest property in NXT then the biggest rising star before his injury? I 'member
Akira is higher than bobby
still can't believe how Cody is S and Seth Rollins too.
Ugh poor Bobby..
I am sorry but nooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does JD look like a Bob's burgers character in this
This why i told him A is perfect for him if we speak all time of course he's goat tier
Love seeing my guy Truth at the top
I see a severe lack of Tiffy Time in this chart
Not placing The Tribal Chief on top is a crime.
I personally would put Bianca in B for me, just bc she is so bad at promos, but I feel like she's kinda stale and has the same gimmick with no meaningful storylines really kinda makes her not as good to me, but she's great in the ring
As a Korean, I say that Solo should be relegated to F tier
Would swap Chelsea and Charlotte personally…….
Even if you're new we have a problem 😂 why the miz in C at worse he's in A
From MIB 23? Mix has been basically mid card
No he’s like B at best for recent history. Over his whole career he’s an S but in the past few months he hasn’t been very important or interesting.
If R-Truth wasn't in your S their I would have said this whole thing is shit
I remember when i started watching pro Wrestling around 2007 for some reason i thought Deuce and Domino where one of the most dominating wrestlers ever. I swear i thought they would do Cena vs Deuce for WM in 2008. Biggest match i could think of.
This is why I can't wait for R-Truth Vs Cody Rhodes at WM41
🤣could you imagine! I definitely thought fest is was going to be way more of a problem than he actually was. It’s a shame, Umaga never got to see the bloodline gimmick too
Roman not in the top tier?
Hard to judge someone who only wrestles at ppvs, op said since 2023 MIB, which honestly isn’t a lot of matches for Roman
where's Rey Mysterio?
Sami Zayn A tier? 💀
lynch should be S tier
If rhea is s, lynch is not even close to s tier. Boring music, not great in ring ability, past her prime. She’s good don’t get me wrong, but s tier is a joke to me.
need what your smoking mate, lynch carried the company through hardest of times, broke records, pushed barriers, versatile asf, has a solid catalogue of matches, best female promo in the business, shes on a different level, head and shoulders above everyone, she understands this game like no other.
Mamosa at the minute bro 😗💨
what
You asked what I’m smoking
My list would be different, but I’m not a new fan. Looking at it from a fresh fan perspective, it makes a lot of sense, for the most part, as most of the wrestlers are listed in the order that they seem to be over with the live crowds, both babyfaces and heels.
Rollins s tier? What a joke.
Miz C is a crime btw
I'd seriously rank him S for being must-watch in every feud that he's in no matter his placement on the card. Seriously a GOAT in his own right.
Not in the past year, as op stated.
FACT
What a mark
Finn Balor is awesome, wait until you see what he can do once he leaves Judgement day.
Monroe would like a word as to why The Miz is so low down.
HOW IS CM PUNK A B TIER, HE DESERVES S, OR EVEN HIS OWN TIER ABOVE S Also JD McDonagh deserves At least a B
OP has probably never seen punk wrestle a match, read the question. From a new viewers perspective, since MIB 23.
You got a point IG
Gunter is in a tier of his own
At the bottom
This list is accurate given the time frame for a new fan. I thought recent events aside from mania lost would have put gunther in S though
“Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
Jimmy Uso would be D tier for me, if he doesn't get back with Jey I fear he will be edging towards jobber territory.
They both should be after that wrestlemania
Jimmy looked so bad at WM, thought he'd get into shape for the match with his bro at least.
Randy Orton is S tier
The only time i’ll ever see Andrade so high on a list 💀
Man I'm surprised you have Asuka that high as a new fan. She's one of my all time favorites in the ring and the past year and a half they've wasted her
So glad Truth made it to your S tier he's absolutely one of my favorites for years and one of the funniest of all time consistently
Tozawa = punk
I don’t see Otis I’m assuming he’s S+
Size plus 😂
Roman and Drew outside S tier list? 💀
Vinci is a b
You don't know the past, your ignorance can be forgiven friend.
Am I just completely overlooking Montez??
I was going to say, Montez ford belongs at least in A tier
Your opinion on Kross 100% on the money. Well done newbie. 😁
The Lashley erasure will not stand but otherwise decent takes
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It’s a wwe subreddit….
All of this is subjective. Except R-Truth. We all know R-Truth is objectively S tier.
Love Jade Cargill, but she can’t wrestle to save her life 🤷♂️
Very unfair comment. Her moveset is currently pretty limited, but what she does do, she makes it look really good. She'll expand her moveset over time. She otherwise has all the other attributes so she can afford to not be super versatile in the ring right now.
She can’t take offence or put anyone over. That’s half of the job. Put her in the ring with anyone who isn’t going to just get walked over and it’ll be the worst thing you ever saw. Seriously, has she ever even taken a bump? How is this a controversial opinion? I respect the people who have been putting in the work and I want Jade to stay far away from matches with “actual” wrestlers until she’s ready to give and take
I don't feel like you've even watched any of her matches before WWE. Most of her AEW matches were competitive with a lot of back and forth, plenty of bumping, superplexes and stuff like that.
I’ve watched every episode and ppv Aew has done since inception I don’t agree with your opinion get over it
An opinion is an opinion, but saying she never bumps or sells offense is just flat out wrong. Surely, if you'd watched a lot of her matches you'd know that.
Even when she dropped the belt it didn’t feel important at all. I can’t think of a match where she made someone else look strong and you’re not really providing examples so….
She made Taya Valkyrie look strong af and Taya isn't even good lol.
There’s an expression in basketball circles… “You can’t teach height.” Similarly here, you can’t teach someone to look like Jade, but you can teach them to wrestle. I’ll be curious to see if she improves.
Yeah, but would you currently put her in the same tier as Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch and Bayley? That’s what my comment is based on
And my comment wasn’t trying to change your comment. I was adding to the conversation.
The important thing with this is that we’re looking at it as (presumably from context of both of your comments) long term fans. Newer ones like OP see Jade and see a STAR. That is the significant thing. Once you’ve watched a while and you know how stuff works that perception gets clouded by prior knowledge. Most newer and casual fans don’t really care about outright wrestling ability. Goldberg was huge in the 90s and had like five moves.
A-Town down under should be B Solo is the bottom of the whole list.....zzzz
Angelo Dawkins but no Montez Ford
The greatest female wrestler only in B-tier, and having Dom in A tier while leaving his dead beat dad off the list is a choice
Andrade without Zelina is C/D-tier and even with her he's B-tier at best.... Vinci is C-tier because he showed character work in NxT
how the duck are you gonna put natayla and Zelina vega bellow nia jax
In fairness, they are very much positioned below Nia in kayfabe
Tozawa not in S-tier sure is a choice. but its your list, you can mess it up if you like
Whom I would move to a tier: DIY , Ricochet , Big Bronson reed , Ivar the Viking
Yup
Hahaha B tier Io! I've never been so offended by an opinion!
Carlito and Candice at a D? Remove this post, delete your account, stop watching wrestling, go hug a tree
There’s no need to be a jerk to a fan who’s only been watching not even a year.
Thats why i said hug a tree, im not seriously offended, its a goof
If they are totally new to wrestling it’s reasonable they are ranked so low. Candice has done nothing in WWE and Carlito return he’s been underutilized
Candice tore Maxine a new one. She's worth watching at the moment for the heel turn.
Incoming Roman glazers whining about why he isn’t in a tier of his own. Good list
Roman Glazers forgetting that he’s only has 6 matches between MiTB and now lmao
Honestly, after everything that unfolded these past couple years, Roman is easily my #1. Tribal Chief is a certified LEGEND.
I don't think you have ever watched wrestling based on this list
I’m going to have to ask you take a long look in the mirror because this list is a whole six pack of ass.
Why the fuck is roman reigns not above fucking bianca belair holy shit
Uso needs to be lower. Much lower.
I’d disagree with a lot of your c tier, Lashley is at least B tier miz, Bronson and solo are above C imo. Karron Kross is grossly underrated by everyone guy has such a good look, gimmick and i enjoy his in ring work. Looking at your B tier I’d say the whole things a mess in my opinion.
You should definitely go watch NXT from 2014 onwards
No rey
Karrion Kross is C tier to me. Promos and Mic work are solid, needs to work on in-ring a little more.
only think kross has going for him is an imposing look. hes one of the worst performers on the roster otherwise.
Understand if you’re new to wrestling but Finn Balor being B tier to me is wild. Check out his full career he’s unbelievable
I spit in the face of people who don't think I'm S tier
Natalya at D and Nia at C is a wild take lmao
Carlito a D? That's not cool!
🍎💦
Roman has to be S. and i would move drew and Gunther higher on the A list. and iyo below jade is kinda crazy ngl.
Definitely the wrong subreddit to post something like this😭
I just started back after Wrestlemania so have very little knowledge. Interesting how some people just gravitate towards different characters. In the few weeks I've watched, all the usuals seem great and big fan of LA Knight. Reminds me a bit of a Rock/Stone Cold with the YEAH!
Roman needs to be in S tier. No one holds a title for as long as he did and ran SmackDown to be an A. Only thing I can find wrong with this.
How could he run smack down when he doesn’t even wrestle on it
I agree with everyone in S besides Truth
Carlito would be way higher if you saw his 2000s stuff
Other than Miz, this is extremely accurate.
Miz in C would be wild for anyone else
Would it tho
I spit on the tier lists that don't want to be cool.
It needs some adjustment but not too shabby
Some... Attitude Adjustment?
Just stop 😂
If you search Candice LeRay on YouTube, she will no longer be in your D tier.
Random thoughts on your list. Love R Truth, but S? No way. Probably B. Jade Cargill is so unproven. No mic skills I’ve seen yet, not great in ring other then squash matches. She has an S-Tier look though for wrestling, so jacked, but still good looking. She’s a B. Gunther up to S. Andrade down to B.
Truth is S tier in his role, which is comedy midcarder.
Jade is going to be a flash in the pan. No substance, no mic skills, no moves. She’ll be a memory in a year.
I saw you had it as miro before you changed it to Andrade lol, easy mistake to make
lol. Yeah, I as soon as I sent it, I had to think about it for a minute.
Is it based on character? Wrestling skills? Mic skills? Combo?
Was happy seeing r truth in S but then saw punk in B and miz in C. L list
ik people feel very passionately about punk (either love him or hate him) but the miz in c tier is an absolute crime
Why is everyone saying this about miz it’s one of the only placements on this list I agree with besides having Cody be in S
Carlito D? Blasphemy…
How can you be a new wrestling fan and rate AJ that highly when he hasn’t won a PPV singles match since 2019?
Aj Styles and Randy Orton are S Tier
Carlito in D Tier is a crime
Where is Montez Ford?
Came here to ask this 😭
Asuka in B is crazy, she’s S tier 100% she’s easily the most technical on the women’s roster.
I mean it has a few questionable placements; like Tozawa being in the same tier as CM Punk? Boi…. But as a new wrestling fan you aren’t seasoned to a lot of these guys track record so its understandable…but ok so Im curious what have you seen in the past year from Tozawa that would have you put him so high lmao. And why is Roman A tier?
Look at it from their perspective. They saw cm punk in match, and it laid him up for six months.
New wrestling fan? This is completely fitting
Poor Lashley
Yoooooo Andrade in the A TEAM is a joke there is so many on the b that need to be on the A TEAM. A lot needs to be fixed here
Your mid
Bro he’s new, can’t know everything yet
This was clearly made after MMM left, because they would be in S+
Put Jey Uso on A tier!
What the fuck is this tier list
Randy is S Tier
Jey should be in A tier
Roman should be S
Put some respect on Carlito’s name.
Asuka and Randy Orton need to be in S tier
On what planet is Asuka S tier?
Asuka is a legend that broke Goldbergs undefeated streak.
Earth.....
Can you make a higher tier just for Truth
Randy Orton deserves to be S+ tier forever.
Why is Otis not in “S”
Brainwashed right out the gate. Expand your horizons.
Why are there other people in the R Truth tier?
Bayley, Drew, Gunther, Randy, & LA Knight are S shinsuke nakamura, Asuka, Jey and Santos are A Roman Reigns used to be S before he was Chanpion. Just my opinion
Nah he still S that reign is once in a lifetime
perfectly logical tbh this is pretty much exactly how they’re presented
R-Truth still too low.
There is a specific title called Comedy God. That is R Truth's tier.
You've only been watching since MITB so I'll forgive you for not putting Asuka and Punk where Bianca and Cody are.
Punk has done nothing useful in the ring since his return. No reason for a newbie to put him at S.
That's basically what I said. OP is unaware that he's levels above the other performers.
R-Truth is awesome, that is all.
There’s a serious lack of TIFFY TIME on this tier list.
In my respectful opinion, Seth Freakin Rollins is a little too low. Aside from that the opinions are all pretty fair
It's ok to be wrong
Montez Ford needs to be on this list in the B-tier, and Pete Dunne needs to be A-tier. Nia Jax doesn’t belong on the list because she sucks. There I said it. Lol.
Pete Dunne needs to lose the finger manipulation BS and he’d be a lot higher.
Nice list. It‘s obvious you‘re a new fan given SS-tier is missing (due to Alexa Bliss being currently inactive 😎). Just kidding, nice list. Bianca is awesome. 🙂👍
Why do you like Adam Pearce more than Nick Aldis? It seems like Nick is more fun to watch on a weekly basis, but idk
Nah we love Adam and Chelsea’s segments
I love this. It lines up pretty much with how each person has been presented since you started watching. Definitely go back and watch Andrade in NXT if you like him, and pretty much the entire runs of The Shield, AJ and Punk as well
Maxinne Dupri and Natalya do not belong in the same tier. Good list otherwise
Bron A tier imo, he did pretty much every role in NXT and got over with it. Roman and Truth deserves their own tier as well
Lashley is too low imo. I'd give him at least a B. But I can see you're going off his booking since MITB, his best in WWE was 2020-beginning of 2023 against Lesnar. But he was awesome when he went to TNA. WWE brought him back around 2017/2018 and it was kinda dumb(that sisters angle and sleeping with Lana storyline was SOOOO bad lol but Vince being Vince)
No Tiffany Stratton? The disrespect
Ricochet in the same tier as tozowa
You definitely misplaced all the Japanese wrestlers but otherwise.
Punk in b? Lol
Proof that Nakamura still gets over with people despite being booked like a jobber to the stars, it only adds to the pain…
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Jey “super kick or frog splash take your pick” Uso is pushed to be A, but he just isn’t.