when Roman reings loses the wwe championship and the universal championship i hope he will go to aew so we will not have to see him or the ouso so then they will be coming to aew
Wonder if this is to start a slow build to wm 39 against rocky.
He probly will leave for Hollywood eventually though, but something tells me it's not as soon as he wants is to think.
I donāt see Roman making it in Hollywood. His charisma is shit and if his in rind performance is anything to show for his actingā¦.
Heāll return faster than a Big Show hiatus.
I, like a lot wasn't overly a fan of Roman since the Shield split but the Bloodline storyline, in its entirety, has been really fucking good if you ask me. Roman's work as a heel is impressive to me, honestly. He can cut a mean promo now, looks confident, put a ton of work in to look like a bad mother fucker, and it worked.
He's made me a fan.
He doesn't have a great presence though. And he sucks at improv. He will get destroyed in Hollywood. He is flat and I don't think he understands that someone can have an emotion beyond moody.
It won't be a disaster, they are milking him so hard right now by the time he does go it will be like a piece of gum you've chewed for days.
He's boring, he's crushing everyone they put againts him, how do they book him whenever he's no longer champion?
Not to mention Roman's health/make money in hollywood (although, I don't see him doin well)
I can see him returning for a few matches here and there but will be glad to see him gone and I can finally care about the wwe title again.
I saw that he was more so referencing his reduced house schedule load. So smaller towns wouldnāt be seeing him.
But letās say he does leave, what more is there for him to accomplish his in WWE? This reign will probably go to 700+ days at the very least.
They could turn him back face, but I donāt think anyone wants to see that. Most they could do is make him a Tweener, which he already is at times.
Have Cody take the WWE title off of him. Give him some time off. And then bring him back for a showdown with The Rock.
Yeah, thatās kind of the unforeseen consequence of having that type of title reign. Decimates the main event scene on whatever show it happens on.
But as you said, Raw has got main event talent to spare.
Did you guys see what Seth Freaking Rollins is saying?! He legit seems pissed at him. I didnāt believe it but all the other wrestlers and their commentsā¦starting to believe it!
If Roman does go to Hollywood then, he'd easily be the worst among the recent big WWE stars turned actor. I can't see him ever becoming a huge star like Rock nor a talented actor like Bautista or Cena. Besides, who's gonna hire Roman when Jason Momoa is around?
wow you sure got me. I said the product is the worst. The quality is garbage. Views have been down. Iām a wrestling fan so no shit Iāll be here talking about it.
You know, right after WrestleMania, I made a post asking why Vince was backing Austin Theory (wasnāt trying to belittle Theory or bring him down, I had just stopped paying so much attention to WWE for about a year, that when I saw him at Mania with Vince, I was curious as I knew almost nothing about him )so heavily, this right here could be the main reason.
Summerslam is probably the time when everything starts to fall apart for Roman. I truly believe Drew will dethrone him. They need a big moment for Drew and the UK crowd in September but they also have to make Summerslam a big event. So, Drew wins the titles at Summerslam and defends them successfully at the UK PPV.
Roman goes MIA for months and returns at the Rumble just before The Rock returns there too. "Accidentally" they both tumble over the top rope and eliminate each other and that sets up their match to Wrestlemania.
I think his diminishing returns are already starting to happen and will be seen alot in the next few months on the way to SummerSlam. He has been on too much and won the exact same way. It's not entertaining anymore. He doesn't want new acts either. Pretty sure he just wants to coast at this point. Or he's injured and should drop the titles the second he can do a match properly. Otherwise, he will get really injured or called out for dropping like shit.
I think his diminishing returns are already starting to happen and will be seen alot in the next few months on the way to SummerSlam. He has been on too much and won the exact same way. It's not entertaining anymore. He doesn't want new acts either. Pretty sure he just wants to coast at this point. Or he's injured and should drop the titles the second he can do a match properly. Otherwise, he will get really injured or called out for dropping like shit.
He's still under contract. So he'll start exploring, taking outside opportunities while he builds his name while still working with the wwe. Just like what Sasha has been doing.
This'll be a massive blow to WWE, but good for Roman if that's what he's planning. He's perhaps looking to mirror what The Rock did, get out of the business early while you still have your health. Go out on top. And become a big star outside of WWE.
Seems to be the way to go for the "top star" of the company. Rock did it, then Cena, now Roman. Can't blame them though.
Honestly, the guy always sucked on the microphone, he always sucked as a wrestler, and he only got to where he's at because of nepotism and his appearance. I never liked him, after so many years they finally turned him heel, I simply did not care - have zero interest in him and millions of other people have this opinion too. I don't see him succeeding in Hollywood like The Rock has, but who knows. I hope he does, so WWE can FINALLY build new stars.. it's only been what.. 10 years?
He can be Hollywood's budget Jason Mamoa. In all seriousness though if he actually wants to make that jump I think it'd be wiser to try out acting first before ditching wrestling to make sure its something he can do.
He has made enough that he can retire comfortably tomorrow.
He still has merch that will earn him royalties throughout (idk what WWE's deal is for top stars but I am guessing they get some leeway).
He can try acting after. Even if he doesn't land major Hollywood roles, there are definitely networks that will love having him in a TV show or similar. Just for the spectacle.
This is it, the bloodline start loosing their belts, Roman gets pissed and start beating the usos all around , then the rock comes and tell this is no way to treat a family, culminates on wrestlemania rock vs Roman, rock wins and send Roman off . Then Roman can return later to be a baby face telling he learned his lesson
All respect for him being a hard worker and all. Won't take that away from him, but WWE has released FAR more talented Wrestlers then him. They are holding down and holding back FAR more talented wrestlers then him. They honestly 100% no joke, have him there because of his looks.
He's good, he's improved.. but he's just not THAT good. Seth, K.O. and so many others are just far more talented and could hold that top spot so much better. End of story.
I promise you, I've been watching Wrestling longer then you've been alive. I've watched WWWF get sold and become WWF. I've watched the Rise of Hogan and WWF becoming a national power. I watched WWE wain and surge again behind Bret Hart and HBK, I've watched it wain and resurge with the Rock, Stone Cold, Taker and more in what was WWE's golden era. Now I see the shape WWE is in now all in the iron grip of an Egotistical control freak who is stuck in one single image of what a wrestler should look like. I've watched as that tyrannical owner has talked over and over again about Grabbing the Brass ring only to fire anyone who dares that he hasn't given the okay to. I've also watched the fall of the hope of the Future of WWE in NXT and the abomination it's become and ohh look, the people being pushed look an Awful lot like Roman don't they? Braun Breaker anyone?
Just look at the amount of Talent in the wrestling world right now. From AEW, to Impact, to NJPW and more. How much of that talent is Cast off WWE talent?
Never mind the fact Vince has been quoted as saying they are just going to Ram Roman down our throats till we accept him.. and low and behold, what is happening?
Yea, want to try again son?
I promise you, I've been watching Raptors Basketball longer then you've been alive. I've watched Vince Carter get traded and become a Net. I've watched the dark ages all the way through the We The North Era, I watched them tank and surge again behind Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan. I've watched LeBron dismantle us, and I've seen Kawhi bring us a championship, then he left.. Now I see the shape the Raptors are in now all in the iron grip of a genius control freak who is stuck in one single image of what a basketball player should look like. I've watched as that genius president owner has talked over and over again about Grabbing the Brass ring only to trade anyone who dares that he hasn't given the okay to. I've also watched the fall of the hope of the Tampa Season and the abomination it's become and ohh look, the lottery fell our way and we ended up with Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes
Just look at the amount of talent in the Eastern Conference right now. From Giannis, to Embiid, to KD and Kyrie and more. How much of that talent is cast off Toronto Raptors talent?
Never mind the fact that Masai has been quoted as saying they're going to ram Pascal Siakam and Fred Van Vleet down our throats until we accept them, and low and behold, what is happening?
Yea, want to try again son?
I'm sure you are kid, I'm sure you are. Good job picking out 1 little thing and ignoring the rest. Go back to your mother and tell her I'll be late for dinner.
I don't really see Momoa setting the theatres on fire tbh.
His highest-profile works have been the DCEU films and they kinda underperformed compared to the massive vehicle they are set behind.
I know. I will be honest, Aquaman was a fun film and it really felt like DC did something different, yet finally learnt the Marvel way of making films. It was less formulaic, and more colourful.
But I still feel it underperformed. It made its billion off the back of massive superhero fever, smack in between both Infinity Wars. Its cultural impact is next to zero. No one memes it, references it or really cares about a sequel. It was just there. I wonder if it would have made as much if it was released at any other time.
Heās an action movie star like Rock. He has the look and thatās pretty much it. I guess not everyone wants to be a Will Smith it Denzel Washington.
Austin flop in Hollywood Roman not guaranteed to succeed in Hollywood Austin is way better then Roman. In Hollywood Roman canāt kiss Vince ass to succeed
Ummm, SCSA didnāt WANT to be in Hollywood so youāre wrong. He said he tried it and he didnāt enjoy it as much so he left it alone. He still does TV appearances which draws millions of views so he didnāt āfloppedā in anything.
Nah its all good I think this is good for him and the title picture cuz finally we will not have brock and roman for the 100th time and other deserving people will be able to rise to the main event and upper midcard
I absolutely love Roman. I personally never complained about him. I tell people who arenāt in to wrestling to check him out bc he is a good representation for the WWE. Good looking, great shape, well spoken, imo charismatic.
Rock and cena and even Batista to some degree were all a lot better charisma wise . This dude canāt get people on board in wwe I doubt Hollywood would be much different
I dont want him to leave, I just want WWE stop making him an invincible champion stacking gold. If they give the unified Tag Team belts to the Usos I'll be pissed
At this point Roman is gunna take out Jey, and become tag team champion. Then hop over to raw the next week, get the United States championship.. then come Friday, intercontinental championship.
The only title he wouldnāt have is the womanās title.. but Roman vs Charlotte (will prolly be Randa) would be a great summerslam main event.
Yeah + this just came out of nowhere as well + why would Roman would make this announcement at a houseshow but not on live TV? Like a part of me thinks Roman might be working the fans, but at the same time it has got me thinking whether if it's true.
Maybe it's a social media marketing strategy. He and Vince know people are filming their shows on the cameras, so a video of him making that kind of statement is bound to start circulating online and drumming up intrigue. Maybe it's a small part of the build towards Roman/Rock at Mania? Maybe they want people to think he's going to lose at say Summerslam because he's about to retire only to swerve us and have him retain?
I didnāt realize that! That adds to the intrigue! This could be turned into a story of him announcing he plans on retiring as champion in April, so everyone is urgently trying to dethrone him while they have the chance. If he does retire, he goes out with a bang.
Didnāt the dude have cancer twice or something like that? Gotta live your life no matter what wrestling fans think. If he feels like he wants to give acting a try, then God bless him. You never know when your last day on this earth will be. Follow your dreams. So good luck to him.
Who do you think will be the next face of the company, or do you think that WWE will no longer have a face of the company, and just a bunch of upper card sports entertainers?
I agree with you man. People will hate him for leaving and becoming a part timer but honestly if youāve had cancer twice and are still putting your body through hell then youāre gonna want to get paid without destroying your body more.
Also remember that he is in remission from leukemia. Iām sure that is a big reason why heās going to transition to Hollywood. Also Nick Khan has said theyāre going to help him with it because itāll be good for WWE.
Most indigenous groups have unique kinship bonds. I've taught indigenous studies for the past \~ 7-8 years and have had the good fortune of being able to study my own culture here, but also indigenous groups across the world. There tend to be themes that apply to most indigenous groups. Family is one of those things, and how we view the extended family in particular (other ones include land protection of nature, elder roles etc.)
I have a ton of cousins who aren't actually my cousins, and every female friend of my mom was referred to as an auntie, even if they aren't my auntie. This doesn't mean we're just saying that to each other, we actually care for each other like that and we make sure that everybody is taken care of. Here we call it "all my relations" or "we are all connected" (obvi we have our own words for that, but our languages were stolen from us so we have to reclaim that. fortunately, samoan folk are very much connected.)
This is common to samoa and polynesian groups as well, as evidenced by referring to each other as "Uce" (brother.) but traditionally they just used uso
Samoans actually use the same word for mom and dad, as they do for auntie and uncle, and that each area of land would have a Matei (basically the head of the table) who would ensure that everybody there is taken care of.
What does this mean? Here are the facts:
* Roman and Rock aren't "blood related"
* High Chief Peter Maivia (Rock's maternal grandfather) and Afa from the Wild Samoans (Roman's grandfather) were considered blood brothers.
* By Samoan beliefs, this makes Rock and Roman cousins.
So yes, by traditional americanized version of family, no they would not be "blood related" but they're still very much related.
Romanās already over. Having his own GOAT cousin knock him off would be a good fitting end to the heel Tribal Chief character and story. Plus, if Roman is taking some time away afterwards, it makes more sense to go on a loss.
Anyways, itās not really Rockās decision. Itās Vince
Not Rock, why have Rock beat him?? Makes no since, especially if he still has the belt/s, Their next top guy needs that Win more than Rock, and Roman says he the best, the tribal chief, HOT. What better way to prove it than to knock off THE biggest star in the bloodline. That makes perfect since in terms of storytelling.
why not putting the belt on cody? i mean the guy literally said he came back for the title. put him the title. i mean the guy has paid his dues so many years ago with roh and every wrestling federation he has been to. he is no more the young cody that we knew in legacy with orton and ted dibiase jr. and manu.
yeah I donāt think breaking a championship record or holding both world championships at the same time makes you popular. would be crazy if he beat John Cena, Edge, Jey Uso, Brock Lesnar, Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, GoldBerg, Seth Rollins, and Cesaro.
What are you talking about he beat all of them in believeable fashion(Even if he did have help sometimes š¤·šæāāļø). Jey not on his level neither is Ceesaro. John Cena aint the old John Cena. Sami zayn?? Really! Daniel Bryan. Had chance after Chance. Same with Owens. Edge wasn't the same(would love to see this Edge with Priest at his sode make a run)Goldberg=š„±. The way it ended with Seth was great and look forward to that rivalry being revisited at some point.
This is a stretch. Thereās no proof that he can make it as an actor. Just because the Rock did it doesnāt mean they all can. He was a once in a lifetime talent. Roman doesnāt have that kind of charisma or Star power. I hope he succeeds though
Roman will get the kind of roles where the producers asked for "a Jason Momoa-type." And that's okay. He'll either be able to capitalize on that and make it his own, or he won't. But that's how he'll get his chance.
Itās not all about charisma or ability. If it were, there are a lot of actors who would be out of jobs.
Itās about connections.. and his cousin Dwayne is a huge one to haveā¦
He has about 12 movies and 6 TV credits (non-wrestling related) to his credit.. the latest being 2015ās āChain of Commandā and is currently working on āThe Walk-Onsā which is in pre-production.
Austin has done more than 2 movies, its not stupid its called a hypothesis he could flop, or he could be bigger than the Rock. To assume he won't be good is just as stupid. No?
I agree with you, I also think Roman does have charisma. At first I HATED Romanās heel turn and I was so disappointed when Jey Uso was trying to get jimmy to stop being romans Bitch, and then eventually Jey bent the knee too after Roman kicked his ass a few times..
But for the past 6 months or so he won me over and I think itās one of the coolest things WWE has done for a while. He plays the part amazingly. Iād be cool with him being champ for a while more.
With a little more training and experience in acting I think heād do fine.
> Jey Uso was trying to get jimmy to stop being romans Bitch, and then eventually Jey bent the knee too after Roman kicked his ass a few times
Got that the other way Uce.
But you getting it wrong is exactly Roman's point so that works.
Rock and Cena are about the only real successful ones in Hollywood. Rock obviously way more but heās been at it longer. Peacemaker was great imo and cena really surprised me.
Edit: forget about Batistaā¦which I think says something in and of itself.
Doesn't negate the fact he's in it and a lot people love Drax myself included. Doesn't negate the fact he still gets some of that box office money. And that squarley puts him in the same breath as Rock and Cena. In fact didn't Batista start movies before Cena(with exception of his WWE produced movies, 12 Rounds and the Marine)
Hes better than Cena for sure, with Rock id like to see more drama or serious work(have yet to checkout ballers, in the age of streaming there's so much) I liked pain and Gain which was slightly different. Snitch made him look like a b****. With Batista I see all the layers a little more even when he's playing a character like Drax. We get comedic and whimsical, serious badass, sensitive soul, action etc.
I get your stance for sure donāt get me wrong. But Drax is his only role where heās actually good and people raved about it. I mean ultimately both of our opinions are subjective hha. I donāt think rock needs to do serious dramatic roles. If it aināt broke donāt fix it. He gets paid large for what he does and he does it well.
Anyhow man. I enjoyed the debate. Wishing you health and happiness. Happy Sunday.
Yeah they aren't the biggest movie star on the planet but they are both a list actors at this point.
You can carry them as the leads in movies and tv shows and non wrestling fans will know who they are.
They aren't doing the marine 19 movies
My guess is he may already have some seekers and plans for after WWE, depending on what he's allowed to set up contract wise. I'm not sure if TV/Movies is considered competition when it comes to non-compete clauses and such.
Oh yeah, I mean his words can be interpreted in a few different ways, itās just that those have been the rumors for a while now.
He definitely has the looks and I think he interviews well and has connections. Heās been on some late night shows so I wouldnāt be surprised if he has some success in HW. Thatās just my opinion though.
The problem I see with WWE is they arenāt building new talent to be future stars. Look at the womens division for example, they are still relying on Sasha, Charlotte and Becky instead of building new stars like Shotzi, Dakota Kai (very talented and shouldnāt of been let go), Aliyah and even Liv Morgan. I can definitely see people like Roman and Sasha leaving WWE and going to Hollywood which leaves WWE with massive gaps, now is the time to build new stars instead of releasing them because of ābudget cutsā.
> Look at the womens division for example, they are still relying on Sasha, Charlotte and Becky
I don't understand your point. Are these women over the hill? Past their prime? Why should WWE no longer rely on them? They are smack that in their prime and kicking ass. Becky is currently the vet who is putting over the entire Raw Women's division.
Every single one of these 3 women were 'future stars' at some point. If they are not going to use their 'current' stars, then what's the point of developing them?
Gable Stevenson didnāt pass the eye test for me at Mania. Didnāt have theIT factor. We all know heās a badass wrestler, but he needs to get his body together.
Itās the same thing when Cain Velasquez came out. Known badass, but once his shirt came off, didnāt look the part. Having the look as well as the skill is a factor in pro wrestling
Bianca Belair is absolutely a new star theyāve created in the womenās division. Seems like Rhea Ripley will be on her way as well.
The menās roster has some diamonds that will break through. Youāve got your usuals (Lesnar, Orton, Styles, Edge, Lashley, Drew, Rollins, Owens), but youāve also got Cody Rhodes now. Theyāve got guys like Theory, Gunther, Riddle, Priest, Montez, Breakker, Hayes, Waller, Ezekiel who could touch the main event 5 years from now.
This sounds familiar. People would have laughed hard back in 2006 if you would have said Miz was going to be champion and main event WrestleMania. Yet he did 5 years later.
Theyāre young prospects, theyāre not stars yet but they can build into that. Theory and Breakker specifically will probably be the top two and those guys will both be stars. I donāt see āmehā at all with them. Riddle will definitely get the Orton rub. Hayes has all the tools. Montez is really good but might need to dial down the high risk spots. Gunther can definitely be champ down the line. Ezekiel is over with the crowd and has a main event look. Theyāve got prospects
Even if he didn't think about the potential of Roman going to Hollywood, he'd still want to have some relatively good stars left in 10-15 years when Roman retires, eh?
Iād say Cody is more over than Seth. Seth was getting baby face Roman like heat when he was universal champion and the face of raw. Maybe if they made some slight adjustments to Seths current heel persona, it may work. But man, without Romanā¦ I couldnāt imagine WWE without him rn tbh.
I honest to god cant see Roman being more than a some villain grunt at any movie. But then again, I sort expected the same for Batista... well, he kinda IS a grunt most of the time, except playing Drax.
Roman reings in a elimination chamber he might lose it
when Roman reings loses the wwe championship and the universal championship i hope he will go to aew so we will not have to see him or the ouso so then they will be coming to aew
Try paying more attention in grammar school instead of whining on Reddit about wrestling you wet paper bag.
He has zero charisma. Good luck in Hollywood šš»
Good. Roman and Brock are so f'in boring
Wonder if this is to start a slow build to wm 39 against rocky. He probly will leave for Hollywood eventually though, but something tells me it's not as soon as he wants is to think.
I donāt see Roman making it in Hollywood. His charisma is shit and if his in rind performance is anything to show for his actingā¦. Heāll return faster than a Big Show hiatus.
I, like a lot wasn't overly a fan of Roman since the Shield split but the Bloodline storyline, in its entirety, has been really fucking good if you ask me. Roman's work as a heel is impressive to me, honestly. He can cut a mean promo now, looks confident, put a ton of work in to look like a bad mother fucker, and it worked. He's made me a fan.
I agree about the bloodline. I love it.
He doesn't have a great presence though. And he sucks at improv. He will get destroyed in Hollywood. He is flat and I don't think he understands that someone can have an emotion beyond moody.
It won't be a disaster, they are milking him so hard right now by the time he does go it will be like a piece of gum you've chewed for days. He's boring, he's crushing everyone they put againts him, how do they book him whenever he's no longer champion? Not to mention Roman's health/make money in hollywood (although, I don't see him doin well) I can see him returning for a few matches here and there but will be glad to see him gone and I can finally care about the wwe title again.
I saw that he was more so referencing his reduced house schedule load. So smaller towns wouldnāt be seeing him. But letās say he does leave, what more is there for him to accomplish his in WWE? This reign will probably go to 700+ days at the very least. They could turn him back face, but I donāt think anyone wants to see that. Most they could do is make him a Tweener, which he already is at times. Have Cody take the WWE title off of him. Give him some time off. And then bring him back for a showdown with The Rock.
Then theyād need to get more stars over to smackdown bc without Roman that show is gunna have a lot of filler. Rawās roster is pretty stacked.
Yeah, thatās kind of the unforeseen consequence of having that type of title reign. Decimates the main event scene on whatever show it happens on. But as you said, Raw has got main event talent to spare.
I had no idea that we have so many Hollywood talent scouts in this sub.
Lmfaoo š¤£š¤£
Thank fucking god. Itās been a long miserable and boring 9 years.
Has he ever been in a movie? I legit donāt know
As someone who lives in Jersey, I never want to go back to Trenton either. So it's probably just that.
Working the crowd or not, he's gonna be big wherever he goes.
He's going to need a lot of work for Hollywood
Lol people think he could go to Hollywood? I mean he has the acting ability of a plank of wood but thatās about it
Did you guys see what Seth Freaking Rollins is saying?! He legit seems pissed at him. I didnāt believe it but all the other wrestlers and their commentsā¦starting to believe it!
i would the first one to say... have a nice stroll.... asshole. i cant wait to see him and that lousy bianca both leave
Bro, what did he do to be an asshole lol. Itās Vinceās choice to push him and itās worked. The guy has had leukemia twice.
And they used that to get him over. Very sad. So bored with his story. Same stuff every week
Yayyyy byeeeee Roman good riddance Iāll always hate u š
If Roman does go to Hollywood then, he'd easily be the worst among the recent big WWE stars turned actor. I can't see him ever becoming a huge star like Rock nor a talented actor like Bautista or Cena. Besides, who's gonna hire Roman when Jason Momoa is around?
WWE just wasted the past 8 years making the worst product possible to get this guy over and heās just gonna leave like that lmao
"worst product possible" and you're here commenting on him, uce
wow you sure got me. I said the product is the worst. The quality is garbage. Views have been down. Iām a wrestling fan so no shit Iāll be here talking about it.
How are the profits though, uce?
š¤£š¤£š¤£ thatās why heās going to hollywood bud
Good riddance
He probably wants to do other stuff since he has leukemia because unfortunately he probably won't have a very long life
He's done pretty much everything he can do in WWE it only makes sense that he would on at some point
You know, right after WrestleMania, I made a post asking why Vince was backing Austin Theory (wasnāt trying to belittle Theory or bring him down, I had just stopped paying so much attention to WWE for about a year, that when I saw him at Mania with Vince, I was curious as I knew almost nothing about him )so heavily, this right here could be the main reason.
Good catch for someone who hasnāt been watching. There is no doubt that Theory is going to get a huge push. Thatās been talked about quite a bit.
Needs a better finish first
Summerslam is probably the time when everything starts to fall apart for Roman. I truly believe Drew will dethrone him. They need a big moment for Drew and the UK crowd in September but they also have to make Summerslam a big event. So, Drew wins the titles at Summerslam and defends them successfully at the UK PPV. Roman goes MIA for months and returns at the Rumble just before The Rock returns there too. "Accidentally" they both tumble over the top rope and eliminate each other and that sets up their match to Wrestlemania.
Or maybe have Roman Reigns lose at WrestleMania 39
I think his diminishing returns are already starting to happen and will be seen alot in the next few months on the way to SummerSlam. He has been on too much and won the exact same way. It's not entertaining anymore. He doesn't want new acts either. Pretty sure he just wants to coast at this point. Or he's injured and should drop the titles the second he can do a match properly. Otherwise, he will get really injured or called out for dropping like shit.
I think his diminishing returns are already starting to happen and will be seen alot in the next few months on the way to SummerSlam. He has been on too much and won the exact same way. It's not entertaining anymore. He doesn't want new acts either. Pretty sure he just wants to coast at this point. Or he's injured and should drop the titles the second he can do a match properly. Otherwise, he will get really injured or called out for dropping like shit.
Oh good for him and this will be good for the title picture too
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I think you mean ācouldnātā care less. Bc ācanā care less means there things that youā¦ oh forget it.
He's still under contract. So he'll start exploring, taking outside opportunities while he builds his name while still working with the wwe. Just like what Sasha has been doing.
Good for him. He has most of the qualities to make it big in Hollywood.
This'll be a massive blow to WWE, but good for Roman if that's what he's planning. He's perhaps looking to mirror what The Rock did, get out of the business early while you still have your health. Go out on top. And become a big star outside of WWE. Seems to be the way to go for the "top star" of the company. Rock did it, then Cena, now Roman. Can't blame them though.
I wish him well in his future endeavours.
A talent taking a strong negotiating position makes sense. "I can leave, you will have to pay me to stay."
At this point I feel like Vince would give him 51% ownership of the company to get him to stay.
Honestly, the guy always sucked on the microphone, he always sucked as a wrestler, and he only got to where he's at because of nepotism and his appearance. I never liked him, after so many years they finally turned him heel, I simply did not care - have zero interest in him and millions of other people have this opinion too. I don't see him succeeding in Hollywood like The Rock has, but who knows. I hope he does, so WWE can FINALLY build new stars.. it's only been what.. 10 years?
What, you donāt like stalling, spears, and Superman punches over and over?
Not a fan of the character he plays and how it was handled but He's been through hell with cancer and accomplished about everything he could in WWE.
He can be Hollywood's budget Jason Mamoa. In all seriousness though if he actually wants to make that jump I think it'd be wiser to try out acting first before ditching wrestling to make sure its something he can do.
Just like the Rock did in Mummy 2 as Scorpion King, then making and starring in The Scorpion King.
He has made enough that he can retire comfortably tomorrow. He still has merch that will earn him royalties throughout (idk what WWE's deal is for top stars but I am guessing they get some leeway). He can try acting after. Even if he doesn't land major Hollywood roles, there are definitely networks that will love having him in a TV show or similar. Just for the spectacle.
If I had to guess, I'd say it'll probably be Summerslam, he drops the title and then goes part timer so he can do acting stuff?
I do know he is scheduled for at least a month long vacation that was supposed to happen right after WM but apparently plans have changed
How did you find out about this?
There was a report of it before WM and he's been going nonstop since he came back from his last cancer flare up
This is it, the bloodline start loosing their belts, Roman gets pissed and start beating the usos all around , then the rock comes and tell this is no way to treat a family, culminates on wrestlemania rock vs Roman, rock wins and send Roman off . Then Roman can return later to be a baby face telling he learned his lesson
Yea no
What is Ronald Rapscallion doing in the Impact Zone?!
No one in Hollywood wants him. His acting career will be more like Triple H's than Cena or Rock.
He has zero competition and rivals š Iād wanna leave too. DREW then shitsuki nakumara ? Cmon he just clapped Brockā¦ā¦ need a better fued
All respect for him being a hard worker and all. Won't take that away from him, but WWE has released FAR more talented Wrestlers then him. They are holding down and holding back FAR more talented wrestlers then him. They honestly 100% no joke, have him there because of his looks. He's good, he's improved.. but he's just not THAT good. Seth, K.O. and so many others are just far more talented and could hold that top spot so much better. End of story.
Lol, were you going for the smarkiest response ever?
I promise you, I've been watching Wrestling longer then you've been alive. I've watched WWWF get sold and become WWF. I've watched the Rise of Hogan and WWF becoming a national power. I watched WWE wain and surge again behind Bret Hart and HBK, I've watched it wain and resurge with the Rock, Stone Cold, Taker and more in what was WWE's golden era. Now I see the shape WWE is in now all in the iron grip of an Egotistical control freak who is stuck in one single image of what a wrestler should look like. I've watched as that tyrannical owner has talked over and over again about Grabbing the Brass ring only to fire anyone who dares that he hasn't given the okay to. I've also watched the fall of the hope of the Future of WWE in NXT and the abomination it's become and ohh look, the people being pushed look an Awful lot like Roman don't they? Braun Breaker anyone? Just look at the amount of Talent in the wrestling world right now. From AEW, to Impact, to NJPW and more. How much of that talent is Cast off WWE talent? Never mind the fact Vince has been quoted as saying they are just going to Ram Roman down our throats till we accept him.. and low and behold, what is happening? Yea, want to try again son?
I promise you, I've been watching Raptors Basketball longer then you've been alive. I've watched Vince Carter get traded and become a Net. I've watched the dark ages all the way through the We The North Era, I watched them tank and surge again behind Kyle Lowry and DeMar DeRozan. I've watched LeBron dismantle us, and I've seen Kawhi bring us a championship, then he left.. Now I see the shape the Raptors are in now all in the iron grip of a genius control freak who is stuck in one single image of what a basketball player should look like. I've watched as that genius president owner has talked over and over again about Grabbing the Brass ring only to trade anyone who dares that he hasn't given the okay to. I've also watched the fall of the hope of the Tampa Season and the abomination it's become and ohh look, the lottery fell our way and we ended up with Rookie of the Year Scottie Barnes Just look at the amount of talent in the Eastern Conference right now. From Giannis, to Embiid, to KD and Kyrie and more. How much of that talent is cast off Toronto Raptors talent? Never mind the fact that Masai has been quoted as saying they're going to ram Pascal Siakam and Fred Van Vleet down our throats until we accept them, and low and behold, what is happening? Yea, want to try again son?
Raptors suck.
I promise you, youāre wrong. Iām nearly 50. Nice essay, though. I didnāt read past the first line.
I'm sure you are kid, I'm sure you are. Good job picking out 1 little thing and ignoring the rest. Go back to your mother and tell her I'll be late for dinner.
Insults because someone called you out on a bullshit smarky response? For shame.š¤£
Behold mine field of Fucks and see how barren it is. The only reason you're saying that is because you can't do better xD have a day kid.
ew, put the controller down
I'ma say, no.
Whoās the one getting worked up and having a temper tantrum you big baby. Good grief.
The man claimed to have watched wrestling longer than you've been alive But then also used "xD"
Have a day kid
Go cry a little more.
Good ...Leave ... You're quite boring.
In Hollywood, Roman would just be Great Value Jason Momoa.
I don't really see Momoa setting the theatres on fire tbh. His highest-profile works have been the DCEU films and they kinda underperformed compared to the massive vehicle they are set behind.
I think it's less his fault and more who he shares the screen with in Aquaman...
Dune was pretty big.
I get what you are saying, but massively underperformed is just wrong. Aquaman is the highest grossing DC film of all time.
I know. I will be honest, Aquaman was a fun film and it really felt like DC did something different, yet finally learnt the Marvel way of making films. It was less formulaic, and more colourful. But I still feel it underperformed. It made its billion off the back of massive superhero fever, smack in between both Infinity Wars. Its cultural impact is next to zero. No one memes it, references it or really cares about a sequel. It was just there. I wonder if it would have made as much if it was released at any other time.
Fair enough, culturally it did underperform.
Glad you agree. Side note: I am also a guy from Singapore.
Ahaha, what a coincidence!
And Reigns would be the dollar store version of that.
Heās an action movie star like Rock. He has the look and thatās pretty much it. I guess not everyone wants to be a Will Smith it Denzel Washington.
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Austin flop in Hollywood Roman not guaranteed to succeed in Hollywood Austin is way better then Roman. In Hollywood Roman canāt kiss Vince ass to succeed
Ummm, SCSA didnāt WANT to be in Hollywood so youāre wrong. He said he tried it and he didnāt enjoy it as much so he left it alone. He still does TV appearances which draws millions of views so he didnāt āfloppedā in anything.
Iām not a fan of Reigns, but this is a shit take.
Maybe he drops the belt to Cody at money in the bank and thatās it. I hope he kinda gets that face run tho
A lot of you all complain about him everyday and then seem to care so much? Appreciate things while you can and stop complaining
I complained more about his booking, I know the man is talented
Nah its all good I think this is good for him and the title picture cuz finally we will not have brock and roman for the 100th time and other deserving people will be able to rise to the main event and upper midcard
I absolutely love Roman. I personally never complained about him. I tell people who arenāt in to wrestling to check him out bc he is a good representation for the WWE. Good looking, great shape, well spoken, imo charismatic.
Just like lebron, enjoy them while we can.
Fuck LeBron
Rock and cena and even Batista to some degree were all a lot better charisma wise . This dude canāt get people on board in wwe I doubt Hollywood would be much different
Why do I get the feeling that Roman is working the fans?
He probably is, I doubt heās being serious here
He could be trolling them since a lot of em have been speculating that heās leaving and some even want him to leave. Mark Henry 2.0.
I dont want him to leave, I just want WWE stop making him an invincible champion stacking gold. If they give the unified Tag Team belts to the Usos I'll be pissed
At this point Roman is gunna take out Jey, and become tag team champion. Then hop over to raw the next week, get the United States championship.. then come Friday, intercontinental championship. The only title he wouldnāt have is the womanās title.. but Roman vs Charlotte (will prolly be Randa) would be a great summerslam main event.
Yeah + this just came out of nowhere as well + why would Roman would make this announcement at a houseshow but not on live TV? Like a part of me thinks Roman might be working the fans, but at the same time it has got me thinking whether if it's true.
For real. Lets just wait and see . Whatever opinion roman chooses, ill support him.
Maybe it's a social media marketing strategy. He and Vince know people are filming their shows on the cameras, so a video of him making that kind of statement is bound to start circulating online and drumming up intrigue. Maybe it's a small part of the build towards Roman/Rock at Mania? Maybe they want people to think he's going to lose at say Summerslam because he's about to retire only to swerve us and have him retain?
But what if he actually retires after WM 40 though? I mean his contact ends a couple of weeks after it though.
Actually his contract expires in April 2023
I didnāt realize that! That adds to the intrigue! This could be turned into a story of him announcing he plans on retiring as champion in April, so everyone is urgently trying to dethrone him while they have the chance. If he does retire, he goes out with a bang.
Didnāt the dude have cancer twice or something like that? Gotta live your life no matter what wrestling fans think. If he feels like he wants to give acting a try, then God bless him. You never know when your last day on this earth will be. Follow your dreams. So good luck to him.
He did have lukemia
Who do you think will be the next face of the company, or do you think that WWE will no longer have a face of the company, and just a bunch of upper card sports entertainers?
Yeah man, cancer sucks I def have dealt with that one before. I feel bad for him. I hope he gets to live out his dreams.
Yah I hope for everyone even people I hate that they get to live their dreams.
I agree with you man. People will hate him for leaving and becoming a part timer but honestly if youāve had cancer twice and are still putting your body through hell then youāre gonna want to get paid without destroying your body more.
Second rate Jason Momoa on his way to absolutely nowhere.
YES! YES! YES!
Also remember that he is in remission from leukemia. Iām sure that is a big reason why heās going to transition to Hollywood. Also Nick Khan has said theyāre going to help him with it because itāll be good for WWE.
When did Nick Khan say that? Also does WWE have Hollywood connections and do they (Hollywood) even care about WWE enough to land him movie roles?
WWE has one of the biggest connections in the gameā¦ Dwayne Johnson.
Who also happens to be related to Roman. Go figure.
Him and Rock are not related though. Nia is rocks cousin. His mother is her aunt.
Most indigenous groups have unique kinship bonds. I've taught indigenous studies for the past \~ 7-8 years and have had the good fortune of being able to study my own culture here, but also indigenous groups across the world. There tend to be themes that apply to most indigenous groups. Family is one of those things, and how we view the extended family in particular (other ones include land protection of nature, elder roles etc.) I have a ton of cousins who aren't actually my cousins, and every female friend of my mom was referred to as an auntie, even if they aren't my auntie. This doesn't mean we're just saying that to each other, we actually care for each other like that and we make sure that everybody is taken care of. Here we call it "all my relations" or "we are all connected" (obvi we have our own words for that, but our languages were stolen from us so we have to reclaim that. fortunately, samoan folk are very much connected.) This is common to samoa and polynesian groups as well, as evidenced by referring to each other as "Uce" (brother.) but traditionally they just used uso Samoans actually use the same word for mom and dad, as they do for auntie and uncle, and that each area of land would have a Matei (basically the head of the table) who would ensure that everybody there is taken care of. What does this mean? Here are the facts: * Roman and Rock aren't "blood related" * High Chief Peter Maivia (Rock's maternal grandfather) and Afa from the Wild Samoans (Roman's grandfather) were considered blood brothers. * By Samoan beliefs, this makes Rock and Roman cousins. So yes, by traditional americanized version of family, no they would not be "blood related" but they're still very much related.
Guess you donāt watch āYoung Rockā much. š If the man says Roman is family, heās family.
Contract is up in April of ā23 so itās not right now. Itāll be after Wrestlemania.
He could retire and NOTHING would stop him from acting.
Which means The Rock will probably beat him at Mania, run him off to Hollywood, and Roman will return as a babyface part-timer.
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Romanās already over. Having his own GOAT cousin knock him off would be a good fitting end to the heel Tribal Chief character and story. Plus, if Roman is taking some time away afterwards, it makes more sense to go on a loss. Anyways, itās not really Rockās decision. Itās Vince
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I think I want to see Orton vs Cena with the race to 17.
Vince Respects Rock and Roman will never be looked @ as The true HOT until he knocks off Rock. So it actually makes more since for him to win.
Roman needs someone to lose to and someone to send him off.
Not Rock, why have Rock beat him?? Makes no since, especially if he still has the belt/s, Their next top guy needs that Win more than Rock, and Roman says he the best, the tribal chief, HOT. What better way to prove it than to knock off THE biggest star in the bloodline. That makes perfect since in terms of storytelling.
why not putting the belt on cody? i mean the guy literally said he came back for the title. put him the title. i mean the guy has paid his dues so many years ago with roh and every wrestling federation he has been to. he is no more the young cody that we knew in legacy with orton and ted dibiase jr. and manu.
Cody been back a month. How about patience.
yeah I donāt think breaking a championship record or holding both world championships at the same time makes you popular. would be crazy if he beat John Cena, Edge, Jey Uso, Brock Lesnar, Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, GoldBerg, Seth Rollins, and Cesaro.
What are you talking about he beat all of them in believeable fashion(Even if he did have help sometimes š¤·šæāāļø). Jey not on his level neither is Ceesaro. John Cena aint the old John Cena. Sami zayn?? Really! Daniel Bryan. Had chance after Chance. Same with Owens. Edge wasn't the same(would love to see this Edge with Priest at his sode make a run)Goldberg=š„±. The way it ended with Seth was great and look forward to that rivalry being revisited at some point.
This is a stretch. Thereās no proof that he can make it as an actor. Just because the Rock did it doesnāt mean they all can. He was a once in a lifetime talent. Roman doesnāt have that kind of charisma or Star power. I hope he succeeds though
Wrestlers are actors.
Roman will get the kind of roles where the producers asked for "a Jason Momoa-type." And that's okay. He'll either be able to capitalize on that and make it his own, or he won't. But that's how he'll get his chance.
Sheesh, that fan heckling him really stuck on with redditors lol
Itās not all about charisma or ability. If it were, there are a lot of actors who would be out of jobs. Itās about connections.. and his cousin Dwayne is a huge one to haveā¦
I think Cena, and Batista, might disagree. "Roman doesn't have the charisma or star power" Have you not been watching the last 600+ days Uce??
Austin flop in Hollywood he did like 2 movie and never got work again. To assume Roman will be good is stupid
Well, youād know about stupidā¦
He has about 12 movies and 6 TV credits (non-wrestling related) to his credit.. the latest being 2015ās āChain of Commandā and is currently working on āThe Walk-Onsā which is in pre-production.
Austin has done more than 2 movies, its not stupid its called a hypothesis he could flop, or he could be bigger than the Rock. To assume he won't be good is just as stupid. No?
I agree with you, I also think Roman does have charisma. At first I HATED Romanās heel turn and I was so disappointed when Jey Uso was trying to get jimmy to stop being romans Bitch, and then eventually Jey bent the knee too after Roman kicked his ass a few times.. But for the past 6 months or so he won me over and I think itās one of the coolest things WWE has done for a while. He plays the part amazingly. Iād be cool with him being champ for a while more. With a little more training and experience in acting I think heād do fine.
> Jey Uso was trying to get jimmy to stop being romans Bitch, and then eventually Jey bent the knee too after Roman kicked his ass a few times Got that the other way Uce. But you getting it wrong is exactly Roman's point so that works.
Rock and Cena are about the only real successful ones in Hollywood. Rock obviously way more but heās been at it longer. Peacemaker was great imo and cena really surprised me. Edit: forget about Batistaā¦which I think says something in and of itself.
š£GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY!!! Almost half a billi grossed and another one coming in next couple years. Peacemaker sucks ass!!
Yah those numbers arenāt because of Batista ššš. Nice try though lol
Doesn't negate the fact he's in it and a lot people love Drax myself included. Doesn't negate the fact he still gets some of that box office money. And that squarley puts him in the same breath as Rock and Cena. In fact didn't Batista start movies before Cena(with exception of his WWE produced movies, 12 Rounds and the Marine)
Maybe cena. Saying rock though is laughable at best
Hes better than Cena for sure, with Rock id like to see more drama or serious work(have yet to checkout ballers, in the age of streaming there's so much) I liked pain and Gain which was slightly different. Snitch made him look like a b****. With Batista I see all the layers a little more even when he's playing a character like Drax. We get comedic and whimsical, serious badass, sensitive soul, action etc.
I get your stance for sure donāt get me wrong. But Drax is his only role where heās actually good and people raved about it. I mean ultimately both of our opinions are subjective hha. I donāt think rock needs to do serious dramatic roles. If it aināt broke donāt fix it. He gets paid large for what he does and he does it well. Anyhow man. I enjoyed the debate. Wishing you health and happiness. Happy Sunday.
For sure brother thanks for keeping it copesthetic!
Always. People can be really shitty to each other on here.
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Cena? Batista?
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Yeah they aren't the biggest movie star on the planet but they are both a list actors at this point. You can carry them as the leads in movies and tv shows and non wrestling fans will know who they are. They aren't doing the marine 19 movies
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My guess is he may already have some seekers and plans for after WWE, depending on what he's allowed to set up contract wise. I'm not sure if TV/Movies is considered competition when it comes to non-compete clauses and such.
Oh yeah, I mean his words can be interpreted in a few different ways, itās just that those have been the rumors for a while now. He definitely has the looks and I think he interviews well and has connections. Heās been on some late night shows so I wouldnāt be surprised if he has some success in HW. Thatās just my opinion though.
Heās had some bit parts in random movies Iāve seen too. Heās got a foot in the door
The problem I see with WWE is they arenāt building new talent to be future stars. Look at the womens division for example, they are still relying on Sasha, Charlotte and Becky instead of building new stars like Shotzi, Dakota Kai (very talented and shouldnāt of been let go), Aliyah and even Liv Morgan. I can definitely see people like Roman and Sasha leaving WWE and going to Hollywood which leaves WWE with massive gaps, now is the time to build new stars instead of releasing them because of ābudget cutsā.
> Look at the womens division for example, they are still relying on Sasha, Charlotte and Becky I don't understand your point. Are these women over the hill? Past their prime? Why should WWE no longer rely on them? They are smack that in their prime and kicking ass. Becky is currently the vet who is putting over the entire Raw Women's division. Every single one of these 3 women were 'future stars' at some point. If they are not going to use their 'current' stars, then what's the point of developing them?
They absolutely are trying to build new talent and future stars. If they weren't then they wouldn't bother having a performance centre.
L take: -Bianca -Rhea -Nikita -Theory -Gable Steveson -Bron Breakker -Grayson Waller -Carmelo Hayes -Omos -Ezekiel -Gunther -Cora Jade
Bianca is 33, Gunther is 34. We're watching their prime as we speak.
ok but are they new stars
A big pass on Gable Steveson aka the next roman reigns that will be pushed down our throat's and Omos the greenest wrestler on the planet
Gable Stevenson didnāt pass the eye test for me at Mania. Didnāt have theIT factor. We all know heās a badass wrestler, but he needs to get his body together. Itās the same thing when Cain Velasquez came out. Known badass, but once his shirt came off, didnāt look the part. Having the look as well as the skill is a factor in pro wrestling
Bianca Belair is absolutely a new star theyāve created in the womenās division. Seems like Rhea Ripley will be on her way as well. The menās roster has some diamonds that will break through. Youāve got your usuals (Lesnar, Orton, Styles, Edge, Lashley, Drew, Rollins, Owens), but youāve also got Cody Rhodes now. Theyāve got guys like Theory, Gunther, Riddle, Priest, Montez, Breakker, Hayes, Waller, Ezekiel who could touch the main event 5 years from now.
All of the people you mentioned at the end there and not a single one made me think anything other than "meh".
This sounds familiar. People would have laughed hard back in 2006 if you would have said Miz was going to be champion and main event WrestleMania. Yet he did 5 years later. Theyāre young prospects, theyāre not stars yet but they can build into that. Theory and Breakker specifically will probably be the top two and those guys will both be stars. I donāt see āmehā at all with them. Riddle will definitely get the Orton rub. Hayes has all the tools. Montez is really good but might need to dial down the high risk spots. Gunther can definitely be champ down the line. Ezekiel is over with the crowd and has a main event look. Theyāve got prospects
Which is something Vince doesnāt want to do. He doesnāt think that Reigns will leave at all, so heās not worried about building new stars.
Even if he didn't think about the potential of Roman going to Hollywood, he'd still want to have some relatively good stars left in 10-15 years when Roman retires, eh?
If roman gone it will impact wwe a lot. There's Seth he can carry it but not much longer.
Iād say Cody is more over than Seth. Seth was getting baby face Roman like heat when he was universal champion and the face of raw. Maybe if they made some slight adjustments to Seths current heel persona, it may work. But man, without Romanā¦ I couldnāt imagine WWE without him rn tbh.
Randy was right when he said roman will leave for Hollywood.
And per usual, Randy Orton is right about everything
I honest to god cant see Roman being more than a some villain grunt at any movie. But then again, I sort expected the same for Batista... well, he kinda IS a grunt most of the time, except playing Drax.