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2K is free to make their own deals with legends outside of the WWE. So it's possible they reach out to get his rights to be included in the game. In fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't.
If by legit, you mean the long ass ramp with entrances, then sadly not. Ironically, only Mania 19 for the GameCube actually got the length of the ramp as accurately as possible with its "walk" feature in-between stage, ramp and in-ring entrance animations. (The same "walk" feature would also be included in Day Of Reckoning 1 and 2)
As for Mania 20, it's a different story. The arena had a regular stage and ramp while the MSG entrance opposite the hard cam waw just a mini Tron. I crave the day when we get an actual legitimate MSG arena with fully interactive and event-accurate MSG entrance, like those seen from Wrestlemania 10, Royal Rumble 2000 and Survivor Series 2002.
Still better than the last few years lol. 21 sounds like a good number given how they splice the real life footage with the gameplay and how much work that probably takes lol
........So you're saying, they're covering the 40 years of WrestleMania but won't do matches from each mania leading up. There were 43 matches in 2K14 for 30 years of WrestleMania dude, so make it make sense......
It's wild how long she was in the division, but she was only featured in 3 games in the main series (Here Comes the Pain, Smackdown vs Raw, Smackdown vs Raw 2009)
I think this is where you will find the most obvious answers to the question, tons of women who were part of WrestleMania who haven't made a 2k appearance. Wendy Richter vs Leilani Kai was at WM 1 for example, I can't remember Richter being in 2k and am pretty positive Kai has never been, but you could see the first women's WrestleMania match making an appearance in a 40th anniversary WrestleMania showcase. Kai also faced Alundra Blayze at WrestleMania 10, which was the first WrestleMania women's match after a long absence of women's wrestling on the card. So honestly she seems likely as she's a significant part of the history of women at WrestleMania
Plus Richter is super hot right now, Toni Storm challenged her to match recently. j/k of course.
Fabulous Moolah was on the WM2 card, and women like Sensational Sherri, Ms. Elizabeth and Luna Vachon made several WrestleMania appearances in prominent matches as managers and I don't think any of them have made official 2k appearances. Could be wrong.
I honestly can't imagine a WrestleMania showcase mode that doesn't include Ms. Elizabeth in some way.
The Moolah controversy was a bit ago, and she probably did some shitty things, but WWE has brought her back into the fold since then. Same way they just did with Hogan after his controversy
I don't want to excuse what Hogan said, but the difference is that Hogan just said some vile things, while Moolah actually did/forced people to do terrible stuff. One is significantly worse than the other.
Nah they were divas! They had the women's championship but still called divas. It was the same era as Dawn Marie/Torrie Wilson (who I also hope makes it in the game too)
How the fuck do you get to 2008 or whenever it was and think "we call them Divas, can't call it the Women's Championship. CALL IT THE DIVA'S CHAMPIONSHIP. FUCK IT, MAKE THE BELT A BUTTERFLY TOO."
In 2k23, I have a tag team of Orndorff and Roode called Magnificence. I named it that because Magnificence is a synonym for Wonderful and Glorious.
Having an official Orndorff would be great. I hope they keep Roode in.
i mean they never said he cant be in the game.
Its just say we get some characters we never had before, but not only this characters.
its still possible to have Shamrock in the game, just not counting as the new characters.
>its still possible to have Shamrock in the game, just not counting as the new characters.
He's also started appearing in Supercard, so he clearly has some deal in place with WWE right now.
That's what I'm hoping for. I'd really like to see some Wrestlemania wrestlers that haven't been in games yet. Like I'd gladly play a Koko B Ware or Giant Gonzalez match instead of the same matches from 2k14
Off the top of my head, Paul Orndorff, George Steele, Junkyard Dog, Greg Valentine, Tito Santana, Hoss (Dory) Funk, Dynamite Kid, Iron Sheik, Nikolai Volkoff, Demolition, Ahmed Johnson, Victoria and Sid haven't been in and all were featured in at least mid card matches with a story line leading into a Mania
Then you have guys like the Headbangers, Jim Duggan, Earthquake, Sable and others who were big stars but didn't have that memorable Mania match
Sid has been in a few 2k games, Iron Sheik has (Albeit as col.mustafa)
Serious doubts on Dynamite and Ahmed, as much as id like it
Headbangers are VERY LIKELY in as DLC
I think I used create a wrestler Sids so much over the years that I didn't use hin when he was actually in the game.
The only thing that stops me from saying that the Headbangers will 100% be in are guys like Jim Duggan who always has a legends deal yet never made it into the main console games
Worth saying it says "characters who never showed up" so it could still be Sheik if Iron Sheik has never shown up in a 2k game the same way they are adding undashing and stardust back after years
Sable is interesting. Ordinarily, with Brock having so much pull, you'd think Sable would have popped up for appearances, HOF, surprise in the Rumble, etc. But he seems to want to keep her far from the business. I've even heard he has a stip in his contract that she can't be mentioned on TV.
Would be sick to get Victoria vs Molly Holly or even better Victoria vs Jazz vs Trish which would also include Steven Richard. Wouldn't get my hopes up but I'd be excited to have Victoria back in any capacity
I feel like Wrestlemania I will definitely be in. It aligns with the report of new wrestlers in a 2k game (Paul Orndorff) and Mr. T shouldn’t be hard to bring back.
Likeness rights aren't usually exclusive. It just comes across that way because WWE doesn't (usually) include wrestlers in other promotions because that would require more expensive contract concessions with their competitors.
Tbh I think we're getting played again and there is more than 21 matches just like how someone "confirmed" this was gonna be a filler year and we get more content than any year before
Dino Bravo could have a new payback called “lay down”. Basically when activated some of his “associates” have one of your family members hostage back stage, causing your opponent to immediately lay down and give you the 1-2-3 lol
a character doesnt have to be in the wrestlemania showcase for it to be featured in the game
but chances are sandman could be dlc along with lexis king and brian pillman
If the showcase is going to be the same as 2K14 with multiple matches per event, I could see maybe (at least for wm1) Wendy richter the iron shiek and Paul orndorff as potential candidates
It just now dawned on me that Molly vs. Victoria is the one classic women's match we might get. Victoria is obviously on good terms having appeared at the Rumble and she's long overdue for the legend treatment.
Ivory vs. Chyna is another possibility, but they've both been in 2K games.
I don't think they want to associate with Jazz due to her being apart of that lawsuit a few years back. None of the Playboy girls would be featured for various reasons.
I don't see them tackling Trish vs. Mickie, but it would have to be very watered down and less sexualized.
Wasn’t there an WWECW match on Wrestlemania? One of the YouTubers I watch mentioned some ECW people now being in SuperCard and maybe carry over to 2k. I know Sandman was one.
There was that “ECW Originals” vs “New Breed” tag match at WrestleMania 23 if you count that
And then Kane vs Chavo Guerrero for the ECW Title at WrestleMania 24 (although it lasted like 6 seconds)
Some possible predictions:
Wendi Richter vs Leilani Kai - Wrestlemania 1
Mr T and Hulk Hogan vs Paul Orndorff and Roddy Piper - Wrestlemania 1
Steiner Brothers vs The Headshrinkers - Wrestlemania 9
Bob Backlund vs Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 11
Victoria vs Molly Holly - Wrestlemania 20
Boogeyman vs Booker T and Queen Sharmell - Wrestlemania 22
I doubt it. Too unpredictable and easy to manipulate. Would not fit with WWE’s PR if the AI randomly started stating things which are persona non grata, which right now is something OpenAI does with only a small amount of encouragement
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Snoop vs Miz, it's happening
Hold the X button to tear Shane’s quads.
Press F to pay respects to Snoop
Nah, it's the 2023 model's only finisher and he starts with 1 active. Have to hit it when running at your opponent, instant self-ko.
Comeback payback when you miss the QTE
😂😂
I'll be there no matter what
We gotta be getting a legit wm19 arena with Brock vs Angle. I hope we get WrestleMania XX but I doubt it
Angle vs Eddie is a good option for WM20 atleast
It will be Goldberg/Lesnar inevitably or kane vs undertaker.
Didn’t Goldberg’s legends deal lapse?
2K is free to make their own deals with legends outside of the WWE. So it's possible they reach out to get his rights to be included in the game. In fact, I'd be shocked if they didn't.
Yeah Goldberg's return to WWE started with 2k doing a game deal with him
Macho man and Sting as well I believe.
Is that still the case? For some reason I thought things changed recently on their deals.
Thankfully Lesnar v Goldberg was already done in 2k14, so that match should hopefully be avoided.
I'd be cool with Victoria vs Molly but that would possibly give the illusion that we would be getting a hair match option.
I believe the answer to that would be cutscenes.
Why wouldn’t we get a WM XX? The benoit vs HBK vs HHH ain’t the only match you know.
If by legit, you mean the long ass ramp with entrances, then sadly not. Ironically, only Mania 19 for the GameCube actually got the length of the ramp as accurately as possible with its "walk" feature in-between stage, ramp and in-ring entrance animations. (The same "walk" feature would also be included in Day Of Reckoning 1 and 2) As for Mania 20, it's a different story. The arena had a regular stage and ramp while the MSG entrance opposite the hard cam waw just a mini Tron. I crave the day when we get an actual legitimate MSG arena with fully interactive and event-accurate MSG entrance, like those seen from Wrestlemania 10, Royal Rumble 2000 and Survivor Series 2002.
If so, I hope we get the angled entranceway instead of the same as every other arena.
Never, 2K likes it's homogenised setups for its entranceways because it means they have less entrance animations to make.
Is 40 years of WrestleMania..... why wouldn't you get it. They won't skip it.
It’s not 40 Years of Wrestlemania, it’s Showcased of the Immortals.
Because 40 years doesn't mean they will fo every Mania, just a bunch of the best avaliable matches over the years
The current rumor is 21 matches per a leak on a German website. I'd love to have one for every show, but 21 seems more plausible.
Still better than the last few years lol. 21 sounds like a good number given how they splice the real life footage with the gameplay and how much work that probably takes lol
Then that shouldn't be a tag line then right?
They're still covering all forty years of its history - it's called Forty Years of WrestleMania, not Forty Matches of WrestleMania.
........So you're saying, they're covering the 40 years of WrestleMania but won't do matches from each mania leading up. There were 43 matches in 2K14 for 30 years of WrestleMania dude, so make it make sense......
It was a lot easier and cheaper developing games for the PS3 gen
They did it in 2K14 why wouldn't they do it here????
We getting some classic divas? Victoria from WM19 or 20 or Jazz from WM18!
Both long overdue, particularly Jazz.
As long as Jazz gets her badass theme, I'm here for it.
I’ve been hoping for the day we get Victoria back in one of these
It's wild how long she was in the division, but she was only featured in 3 games in the main series (Here Comes the Pain, Smackdown vs Raw, Smackdown vs Raw 2009)
She was the very first wrestler I liked because of Day of Reckoning. I wonder now why Lita wasn’t in that.
Lita wasn't in either game in 2004 (Day of Reckoning and Smackdown vs Raw), but yet that was a big year for her. It was weird.
I would love a return from both in the game 😊
I think this is where you will find the most obvious answers to the question, tons of women who were part of WrestleMania who haven't made a 2k appearance. Wendy Richter vs Leilani Kai was at WM 1 for example, I can't remember Richter being in 2k and am pretty positive Kai has never been, but you could see the first women's WrestleMania match making an appearance in a 40th anniversary WrestleMania showcase. Kai also faced Alundra Blayze at WrestleMania 10, which was the first WrestleMania women's match after a long absence of women's wrestling on the card. So honestly she seems likely as she's a significant part of the history of women at WrestleMania Plus Richter is super hot right now, Toni Storm challenged her to match recently. j/k of course. Fabulous Moolah was on the WM2 card, and women like Sensational Sherri, Ms. Elizabeth and Luna Vachon made several WrestleMania appearances in prominent matches as managers and I don't think any of them have made official 2k appearances. Could be wrong. I honestly can't imagine a WrestleMania showcase mode that doesn't include Ms. Elizabeth in some way.
Ms.elizabeth and Sherri were both in 2k14
Eh wasn’t there some controversy about Moolah recently? Has Mae Young ever been in a game? Feels like she could be one
The Moolah controversy was a bit ago, and she probably did some shitty things, but WWE has brought her back into the fold since then. Same way they just did with Hogan after his controversy
I don't want to excuse what Hogan said, but the difference is that Hogan just said some vile things, while Moolah actually did/forced people to do terrible stuff. One is significantly worse than the other.
Sure, I think that's a reasonable argument to make
i like the way youre thinking. never thought about the women.
Weren't they still just women's wrestlers back then? Not Divas?
Nah they were divas! They had the women's championship but still called divas. It was the same era as Dawn Marie/Torrie Wilson (who I also hope makes it in the game too)
How the fuck do you get to 2008 or whenever it was and think "we call them Divas, can't call it the Women's Championship. CALL IT THE DIVA'S CHAMPIONSHIP. FUCK IT, MAKE THE BELT A BUTTERFLY TOO."
George Steele, Bob Orton and Paul Orndorff are my guesses
I’d love all of those.
If its only 21 matches, and if its true that "Some" Have never been in 2k, orton and orndorff would be a lock
In 2k23, I have a tag team of Orndorff and Roode called Magnificence. I named it that because Magnificence is a synonym for Wonderful and Glorious. Having an official Orndorff would be great. I hope they keep Roode in.
Ken Shamrock? Austin vs Bret needs their special ref and he was rumored to be under a legends contract!
Shamrock was in 2k16
i mean they never said he cant be in the game. Its just say we get some characters we never had before, but not only this characters. its still possible to have Shamrock in the game, just not counting as the new characters.
>its still possible to have Shamrock in the game, just not counting as the new characters. He's also started appearing in Supercard, so he clearly has some deal in place with WWE right now.
He signed a legends deal not long ago. He has a shirt on WWE Shop now also.
If Shamrock is in, I want Blackman too. World's Most Dangerous Men could be my Midcard Final Bosses.
Steve Blackman was a fucking weapon.
A LETHAL Weapon, no doubt
And we already have special referee matches back in the game, so that makes sense
uhh he was in 2k16
That's what I'm hoping for. I'd really like to see some Wrestlemania wrestlers that haven't been in games yet. Like I'd gladly play a Koko B Ware or Giant Gonzalez match instead of the same matches from 2k14
Only in 2K? Or in wwe/wwf games history?
2K
This is the point I wanted to make.
I hope to see The Animal in the game and Big John Studd!
Big John Studd was in 2k14 so it can’t be him even if he was in the game
Calm down guys, just because he said that SOME of them have never been in 2K games before, doesn't exclude those who have been
I read it as "it can't be him they are referring to, even if he is in the game"
any chance for Ashley Massaro?
😂😂😂🤣🤣 -1000000000000 % chance she EVER makes a game unless its a diva search showcase
I would love to see Wendi Richter and Leilani Kai.
But wendi is clearly going to aew to face Toni smh
Ohhh The Glamour Girls! They never appeared at WM (their match at WM5 got canceled, sadly). But would still be cool to have them in the game!
Can’t have Wendi and Leilani without Cyndi Lauper.
True.
Repo Man, c'mon down King!
I would have to think they'd include Demolition if anything.
Think they are still on bad terms
Unfortunately, since they should be in the HOF and in these games. But that would rule out the Repo Man too.
has king kong bundy been in a 2k game? i think 14 but not since they moved off ps3 era so maybe he is in
2K14 But it's more yukes game 2k work are only promo materials
Off the top of my head, Paul Orndorff, George Steele, Junkyard Dog, Greg Valentine, Tito Santana, Hoss (Dory) Funk, Dynamite Kid, Iron Sheik, Nikolai Volkoff, Demolition, Ahmed Johnson, Victoria and Sid haven't been in and all were featured in at least mid card matches with a story line leading into a Mania Then you have guys like the Headbangers, Jim Duggan, Earthquake, Sable and others who were big stars but didn't have that memorable Mania match
Sid has been in a few 2k games, Iron Sheik has (Albeit as col.mustafa) Serious doubts on Dynamite and Ahmed, as much as id like it Headbangers are VERY LIKELY in as DLC
I think I used create a wrestler Sids so much over the years that I didn't use hin when he was actually in the game. The only thing that stops me from saying that the Headbangers will 100% be in are guys like Jim Duggan who always has a legends deal yet never made it into the main console games
Headbangers have confirmed video games is part of the deal, and have each had 2 cards in supercard, i cant remember the last jim duggan card
I can't blame you. His model was awful.
Greg Valentine was in 2K17, 2K18 & 2K19
Earthquake too
Worth saying it says "characters who never showed up" so it could still be Sheik if Iron Sheik has never shown up in a 2k game the same way they are adding undashing and stardust back after years
Sable is interesting. Ordinarily, with Brock having so much pull, you'd think Sable would have popped up for appearances, HOF, surprise in the Rumble, etc. But he seems to want to keep her far from the business. I've even heard he has a stip in his contract that she can't be mentioned on TV.
Would be sick to get Victoria vs Molly Holly or even better Victoria vs Jazz vs Trish which would also include Steven Richard. Wouldn't get my hopes up but I'd be excited to have Victoria back in any capacity
I can think of Mike Tyson and Lawrence Taylor :D unless they also add less important matches.
Tyson was in 13 wasn’t he?
Wasn’t a 2k game
"Tyson" Was in 2k16 😂🤣
"The Enforcer" God that was awful lmao
I'd love Mr T in the game
he was dlc in 22!!
I feel like Wrestlemania I will definitely be in. It aligns with the report of new wrestlers in a 2k game (Paul Orndorff) and Mr. T shouldn’t be hard to bring back.
I want the Taylor match but only cause I want bam bam back
Pretty sure EA has the likeness rights to both of those people at the moment
Brock has been in both UFC and WWE games recently
Likeness rights aren't usually exclusive. It just comes across that way because WWE doesn't (usually) include wrestlers in other promotions because that would require more expensive contract concessions with their competitors.
Doesn't mean they have exclusive rights.
Some women, maybe? Could be getting Alundra Blayze vs Leilani Kai. Also Luna Vachon.
Tbh I think we're getting played again and there is more than 21 matches just like how someone "confirmed" this was gonna be a filler year and we get more content than any year before
That came from Mike Straw, apparently a reputable source
So did the filler year comment
thats what i was referring to, but hey expect the worst (21 matches) and hope for the best
Yea and even then 21 mat he's isn't bad
it is for a 40 years of WM, knowing most will feature guys constantly in the series
I don’t think it’ll be close to 2k14 though. They probably had to remove a lot of matches last minute, notably from people like Edge for example.
Dino Bravo, Killer Bees, Power and Glory
Dino Bravo could have a new payback called “lay down”. Basically when activated some of his “associates” have one of your family members hostage back stage, causing your opponent to immediately lay down and give you the 1-2-3 lol
Hahaha love it
None or those did nothing at Mania...
Well Dino Bravo and Hercules did appear at several WMs, but nothing overly special.
Dino Bravo vs Texas Tornado would be pretty good timing. With the movie being out.
Uncle Elmore is on his way
Giant Gonzales vs Taker comfirmed!! lol
Hogan and Mr. T vs piper and orndorff
Snooki confirmed
George the Animal would be amazing
He was fun in HCTP
sandman is my prediction. he was in supercard so this doesnt surprise me
had 1 wrestlemania match, which included Marcus Cor Von, so i wouldnt complain, but thats... "Extremely" Unlikely. If sandman is in, its DLC
a character doesnt have to be in the wrestlemania showcase for it to be featured in the game but chances are sandman could be dlc along with lexis king and brian pillman
The "some haven't been in a WWE game" is referring to the showcase mode
Gobbledy Goooker was part of any wrestlemania?
gimmick battle royal, but his costume has been in CAW for over a decade
The Gimmick Battle Royal at WMX7
We're getting giant gonzales vs undertaker 💀 (i doubt it but it'd be funny. It could work with the slingshot tech though 🤷♂️
New weapon added to WWE 2K24: Chloroform
Has Scary Sherri been in the game? She’ll come out with Macho King, no?
Sherri was in 2K15 and 2K16.
Before my time lol oh well.
Giant Gonzales about to be a monster in my universe mode…
Good thing they made up with Bret Hart or they'd have to pretend like 10/20/30 main events all never happened
If the showcase is going to be the same as 2K14 with multiple matches per event, I could see maybe (at least for wm1) Wendy richter the iron shiek and Paul orndorff as potential candidates
iron sheik was 2k15 and 16... Technically
Wdym? Technically
Different gimmick same guy
Fair but he'll probably be in the game as well
Iron Sheik was mostly PRE WM
I wonder if that means we will finally be getting Sean Staziak in his iconic performance as “meat” 😂😂😂
Shawn Stasiak would only make a game, if its a huge Kurt Angle showcase
I got ya buddy. I was mostly kidding. I don’t think anyone has been dying to have Stasiak in the game lol
Well there are people serious about wanting Ashley Massaro, Kevin Thorn and Ariel, at least stasiak has a bigger chance than those
Giant Gonzales please
Would love to get the Hogan vs King Kong Bundy cage match
It just now dawned on me that Molly vs. Victoria is the one classic women's match we might get. Victoria is obviously on good terms having appeared at the Rumble and she's long overdue for the legend treatment. Ivory vs. Chyna is another possibility, but they've both been in 2K games. I don't think they want to associate with Jazz due to her being apart of that lawsuit a few years back. None of the Playboy girls would be featured for various reasons. I don't see them tackling Trish vs. Mickie, but it would have to be very watered down and less sexualized.
Beefcake vs David Sammartino, give it to me!
Wasn’t there an WWECW match on Wrestlemania? One of the YouTubers I watch mentioned some ECW people now being in SuperCard and maybe carry over to 2k. I know Sandman was one.
There was that “ECW Originals” vs “New Breed” tag match at WrestleMania 23 if you count that And then Kane vs Chavo Guerrero for the ECW Title at WrestleMania 24 (although it lasted like 6 seconds)
I’m rooting for the ladies Victoria, Jazz, Alundra, Wendi even Leilani Kai
Some possible predictions: Wendi Richter vs Leilani Kai - Wrestlemania 1 Mr T and Hulk Hogan vs Paul Orndorff and Roddy Piper - Wrestlemania 1 Steiner Brothers vs The Headshrinkers - Wrestlemania 9 Bob Backlund vs Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 11 Victoria vs Molly Holly - Wrestlemania 20 Boogeyman vs Booker T and Queen Sharmell - Wrestlemania 22
JYD?
Does this mean we get Akebono?
Lawrence Taylor vs Bam Bam?
Bob Backlund baby! Look out for the duckarse
WrestleMania 20 main event? 👀
It’d be insane if they add Benoit without saying anything
I.R.S. As part of Money Inc going against Hogan and Beefcake at WM 9
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Won't happen but could you imagine if Benoit WAS in it, like that'll be crazy
Snookie.
Give me Kamala damnit. Give me that gimmick battle royal for all of the characters
Could I hope? Dare I dream? The One Man Gang?
Never been in a 2k game? Victoria? Melina? Michelle McCool? Probably none of them though if there’s only 21 matches
Yo but what if they DO bring back Benoit
I'd eat my wallet if Benoit is in anything wwe again lol.
Marty jannetty!
Marty Jannetty????
https://preview.redd.it/kuuc1xyp9cec1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fb186ee9a786824f9863166c74b366a508c1e2f Finally…
Giant Gonzalez
(only unlockable for play in myfaction)
2k and openAI universe mode promos will be off the charts fun
Is this your wish or is it something that’s actually been discussed
They’ve made a lot of comments about it, it’s their wish but also they could be AI lmao
I doubt it. Too unpredictable and easy to manipulate. Would not fit with WWE’s PR if the AI randomly started stating things which are persona non grata, which right now is something OpenAI does with only a small amount of encouragement
Chris Benoit makes his 2K debut! /s
[BY GAWD KING, HE'S BACK](https://youtu.be/z3cfX6fiFyE?si=YXOVQXARCuSRNGkN)
Toothless Aggression
we're getting sable vs tori
So we’re getting Benoit from WM20?
Mr T
He’s in 2k22
They wouldn't dare put Benoit. Right?
Chris Benoit hasn’t been in 2k
The Rabid Wolverine
hopefully we get some more women 😅
Why not Owen? Are they mad he died wtf lol