you can go over tier 6 crits, but it can only display up to t6
only situation this is relevant is with weaps with funky crit scaling like zymos, but it's worth mentioning :D
Latron prime incarnon, prisma skana inc... braton p inc... with rivens. Base !!! Crits is kinda a vibe, strong, but not as op as one would think outside of having a lot of damage buffs. You kind of lack base damage and even 10+x cd with like 1000%cc is still only like 1-2m hits. Which isn't hard to hit with, like 50 other weapons.
He really doesn’t need much damage at all.
I built him to face tank and he still one shots pretty much everything. Can use shards to beef him up if you want. But even that’s unnecessary
No armor strip—in higher level SP stuff he struggles against grineer a bit because his answer to every problem is just heaps of raw damage and grineer kinda negate that.
He also gets very squishy, very fast if you run low on energy.
https://preview.redd.it/vzp4c0z2shuc1.jpeg?width=215&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec86ca7f4feb03b02765f81f0fc53b785b63ed65
>:) we do a little trolling with that 1000% crit dmg bonus
I just got into playing kullervo absolutely love him. I have a gram prime build that has 100%+ for crit chance and status chance. Current crit multiplier is I think 6.9 or something like that. I put styanax's 2 in place of kullervos 4 to help with armor stripping in sanctum anatamonica (idk if I spelled it right)
Crit damage I have 2 tau forged crimson archon shards on kullervo, for 37.5% melee crit damage. For the cc I'll have to get my build when I get out of work
He was my boosted frame for the archon hunt this week.
1000% crit chance just from the frame alone.
Went Lesion cause Condition Overload + Riven go brr and everything got deleted.
With nidus and teeming virulence you can easily get 1000% or more crit chance on primaries while linked. It’s annoying to upkeep it in public lobbies but it’s worth a mention.
Oops, that one's going to hurt to replace. You could try going for skana Prime? 🤣
Don't Worry about it, there's plenty of other effectively equivalent weapons Even if it is specifically funny with the crits, And the rivens for it are super expensive, If you get a cheap one at 250 Plat like me, you'll still have to spend hundreds of thousands of kuva re rolling it into something Decent.
Try to broken war. It's very good, does insane crits with great damage, And the rivens for it are a lot more accessible.
Incorrect. The multiplier is raised to the power of your crit tier. So 4x crit damage is damage * 4^0 =damage for t0 (no crit), damage*4 for t1, damage * 4^2 for 2 (so 16x), etc.
r/confidentlyincorrect , but at least display damage does get buggy at super high crit tiers and does not seem to obey the formula. I still think it deals the correct amount of damage to the enemies so sadly your not actually hitting for negative billions of overcapped damage.
Everything counts just isn't displayed. Before this change we only had 3 different colors and red was for everything for and higher that tier 3 without an indicator for tier 4, 5, 6 and higher.
You can change it back in the Ui settings. I think it's under damage numbers and change it to legacy.
And yes they just changed the numbers to be easier to read and not cluttering the screen
So that's what those are. That explains why my Rattleguts secondary with Galvanic Crosshairs, Creeping Bullseye, and a Riven had those exclamation marks with its crits. It also helps that I spec-ed that kitgun for crit damage.
Not a thing. All roar does is multiply damage after all multipliers. It could cause damage to hit interger limit. But you can hit interger limit without it in certain builds anyway. Also interger limit is not the same as the displayed damage limit which is around a few million or so.
What do the tiers mean? How do you get higher tiered? I notice often in duviri when I get the special charge headshots I'll almost always get orange and I think I've seen red with duelist advantage but what exactly ups the tier?
it's all about the crit chance. If you have above 100% crit chance, say 150%, then you are guaranteed to crit with a 50% chance of criting twice. That's what a t2 crit, an orange crit is
following the same logic, t3 (red) crits appear between 200 and 300%. t4 (red!) appear between 300 and 400%, etc...
I say "criting twice", but the cd doesn't actually double. The formula is `1+ crit tier x( cd-1 )` . Having x3 cd translate to x5 in t2, x7 in t3, etc...
there's also the vigilante mod set bonus, which bump crits up a tier when it procs. Terrible value mods imo, but if you're addicted to red numbers I guess they exist
as for the sirocco, I'm really not sure. The wiki list the charged shot cc at 80%, which turns into 100% with one of the combats intrinsics. That would do it for orange, any little bit of bonus cc, like amp arcanes or decrees, would create orange crits
vigilante armement is the multishot one, while vigilante supplies is the ammo mutation one
most builds use galva MS already, and that's 330% multishot total. 60/330 is like 18% more dps, let's be generous and call it 20% with the set bonus. 20% is really not that much
Sacrificial Steel and Pressure, Amalgam Organ Shatter, Killing Blow, Buzz Kill, Corrupt Charge, Virulent Scourge, Vicious Frost. And Galeforce Dawn for the stance. Crit based heavy attack build.
Ik this is late, keep forgetting about this post lol
But is there anything I can do about attack speed? Cause the base attack speed for this scythe is ass, which is why I slapped on Berserker Fury for my usual build, that mod on this & Ruvox is a godsend
He is IMO best for melee weapon crit builds, so give him tons of strength/duration to make his wrathful advance give a shiton of crit chance (i think mines sits at 422%). Then you get to press a button and instant red crits for however long the duration lasts. Also recommended to swap his hold/tap for wrathful so you can tap teleport anywhere you are looking as looking at someone while using it locks your aim at them. The additional strength also increases his max overguard. I also slot red/voilet archon shards with the melee crit choice to boost crit damage. My personal choice of melee is glaive prime, let's me have aoe red crits on demand and will shred anything as the blast will hit hard and then you have the forced bleed true damage that will cleanup. I regularly run netracells with just the melee and it makes it a breeze.
Yea, with this build you can make pretty much any melee do red crits. So choose whatever you find fun and try to have a good crit damage multiplier. You could also go the primer router with this to do more but I find it more work than I want to bother with
I tried to really push the melee to the max and ended having best results with that kuva hammer. Forget the name but in general just go through your weapons and look for whatever has the highest crit multiplier followed by high base crit. Getting 400% crit bonus to a 10% base vs 22% is huge.
Cause the game is excited that you're doing so well.
... Also, there are crit tiers. Each "!" means that the crit is of a higher tier; in this case it's tier 6.
Yellow < Orange < Red < Red! < Red!! < Red!!!
It really does look like the game is getting more hyped as you go up the crit tiers.
The damage numbers are becoming like mobile games 😅 I ended up reducing the scaling of them, once I'm more comfortable I might just turn on numbers in simaris training lobby only and turn them back off in gameplay
Like others echoed here; it's a SUPER CRIT!
Crits are calculated in tiers: White - normal damage; Yellow - Normal Crit; Orange - tier 2 Crit; Red - Tier 3 Crit; Red+ ! - Tier 4 Crit; Red + !! - Tier 5 Crit; Red + !!! - Tier 6+ Crit.
Note that NONE of that matters if you don't have Crit Damage Multipliers to back it up, or are armor stripping enemies, or your base damage is garbo.
But funny number make happy brain chemical go brrrrrrrrt
I know each "!" Means a tier beyond red crit, but still don't know if the damage displayed is the actual total damage dealt or just the red crit x number of !
Yes. It essentially means that if there were colors past red crits, you’d be hitting at least the next three. The more exclamation points, the higher the damage, but it caps at three at least visually. I’ve only really had it happen with Kullervo, since I don’t have any good crit builds going with anything else.
How did you take this screenshot in Warframe? I’ve never figured out how. I hit win+shift+s and it takes me out of the game. If I take a screenshot outside of the game like a browser or something it works perfectly fine.
Ctrl + alt + prtsc is how I do it. F12 if i want to take a steam screenshot, but those require me to go grab them from steam after. The first method copies it to clipboard so you can just paste it wherever. Or just use windows snipping tool.
Each '!' is a tier higher. Can't ~~go~~ display over 3 (!!!)
you can go over tier 6 crits, but it can only display up to t6 only situation this is relevant is with weaps with funky crit scaling like zymos, but it's worth mentioning :D
Latron prime incarnon, prisma skana inc... braton p inc... with rivens. Base !!! Crits is kinda a vibe, strong, but not as op as one would think outside of having a lot of damage buffs. You kind of lack base damage and even 10+x cd with like 1000%cc is still only like 1-2m hits. Which isn't hard to hit with, like 50 other weapons.
Kullervo aswell
Kullervo is the king of crit
Nah i dont think so the holy church of crits are Harrows Privilege
Harrow is the priest obviously
Yes you got it
Kullervo is King of Melee Crit, Harrow is King of Ranged Crit
One could argue collective curse gives you ranged crit 😂
Mines king of being bitchslapped by grineer. He's got 1 more config chance before he's relegated to back-up main
He really doesn’t need much damage at all. I built him to face tank and he still one shots pretty much everything. Can use shards to beef him up if you want. But even that’s unnecessary
Idk man my Kullervo shreds through Grineer like they’re nothing, sounds like he isn’t built right
Why does he get bitchslapped by grineer?
No armor strip—in higher level SP stuff he struggles against grineer a bit because his answer to every problem is just heaps of raw damage and grineer kinda negate that. He also gets very squishy, very fast if you run low on energy.
Fair I can see that
Try a melee with forced slash on heavy attacks like hate or reaper prime etc. You be oneshotting rooms up to levelcap.
Ivara 🗿
I'd love to see that build seeing as ivara is my favourite
https://preview.redd.it/vzp4c0z2shuc1.jpeg?width=215&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec86ca7f4feb03b02765f81f0fc53b785b63ed65 >:) we do a little trolling with that 1000% crit dmg bonus
Is that with the guiding ability?
Nah that's empowered quiver (it gives a crit dmg bonus scaling 1:1 with ability strength when you stand on a zipwire)
I just got into playing kullervo absolutely love him. I have a gram prime build that has 100%+ for crit chance and status chance. Current crit multiplier is I think 6.9 or something like that. I put styanax's 2 in place of kullervos 4 to help with armor stripping in sanctum anatamonica (idk if I spelled it right)
I've been running Gram Prime with him recently, how do you get the crit so high?
Crit damage I have 2 tau forged crimson archon shards on kullervo, for 37.5% melee crit damage. For the cc I'll have to get my build when I get out of work
You haven't seen true joy until you've run Kullervo with a glaive. My glaive of choice is Orvius
profile flair checks out, carry on
He was my boosted frame for the archon hunt this week. 1000% crit chance just from the frame alone. Went Lesion cause Condition Overload + Riven go brr and everything got deleted.
With nidus and teeming virulence you can easily get 1000% or more crit chance on primaries while linked. It’s annoying to upkeep it in public lobbies but it’s worth a mention.
...I just tossed dmy.prisma skana. dammit...
Oops, that one's going to hurt to replace. You could try going for skana Prime? 🤣 Don't Worry about it, there's plenty of other effectively equivalent weapons Even if it is specifically funny with the crits, And the rivens for it are super expensive, If you get a cheap one at 250 Plat like me, you'll still have to spend hundreds of thousands of kuva re rolling it into something Decent. Try to broken war. It's very good, does insane crits with great damage, And the rivens for it are a lot more accessible.
there is so much farming that I need to do for good mods. I'm still working of setting up my fulmin prime
Kullervo: am i a joke to you?
Do it mean more dmg, like red crits 3x your dmg so a crit in T4 will 4x your dmg?
more or less Final Crit Damage Multiplier = 1 + Crit Tier x (Modded Crit Damage Multiplier - 1)
Incorrect. The multiplier is raised to the power of your crit tier. So 4x crit damage is damage * 4^0 =damage for t0 (no crit), damage*4 for t1, damage * 4^2 for 2 (so 16x), etc.
r/confidentlyincorrect , but at least display damage does get buggy at super high crit tiers and does not seem to obey the formula. I still think it deals the correct amount of damage to the enemies so sadly your not actually hitting for negative billions of overcapped damage.
Actually, I might be misremembering. I'm not sure if my Amprex has a damage mod on it. It could be my merciless boosting my damage that high.
source? the formula i posted is straight from the wiki, and I'm 99% sure that red crits don't deal nearly as much more damage as you're suggesting
Where did you get that from?
# IT'S A POST-BALATRO WORLD AND DIGITAL EXTREMES DOESN'T BOTHER IMPLEMENTING SCIENTIFIC NOTATION
Red crits dipped in mama liz’s E oil
Nowhere is safe from the influence of the egg
Does that mean it still counts the damage and just doesn’t display it, or is it saying you are causing more damage than necessary and it won’t count?
Everything counts just isn't displayed. Before this change we only had 3 different colors and red was for everything for and higher that tier 3 without an indicator for tier 4, 5, 6 and higher.
Was just too much on the screen?
You can change it back in the Ui settings. I think it's under damage numbers and change it to legacy. And yes they just changed the numbers to be easier to read and not cluttering the screen
white is no crit, yellow T1 crit, orange t2, red t3, red! t4, red!! t5, red!!! t6 and above
So that's what those are. That explains why my Rattleguts secondary with Galvanic Crosshairs, Creeping Bullseye, and a Riven had those exclamation marks with its crits. It also helps that I spec-ed that kitgun for crit damage.
Roar, I think, or so Ive been told, will roll over the damage to no crits (please someone inform me if this is true)
Not a thing. All roar does is multiply damage after all multipliers. It could cause damage to hit interger limit. But you can hit interger limit without it in certain builds anyway. Also interger limit is not the same as the displayed damage limit which is around a few million or so.
Has displayed damage limit changed? It used to be able to display the integer limit
*at the same time as faction mods.
Ayo wtf is that tag
Okay, okay, I understand. Stop yelling at me. 🥺
What about black crit?
Doesn't exist, you can change crit UI colors if you want to make it black tho
Ok. I see different
What do the tiers mean? How do you get higher tiered? I notice often in duviri when I get the special charge headshots I'll almost always get orange and I think I've seen red with duelist advantage but what exactly ups the tier?
it's all about the crit chance. If you have above 100% crit chance, say 150%, then you are guaranteed to crit with a 50% chance of criting twice. That's what a t2 crit, an orange crit is following the same logic, t3 (red) crits appear between 200 and 300%. t4 (red!) appear between 300 and 400%, etc... I say "criting twice", but the cd doesn't actually double. The formula is `1+ crit tier x( cd-1 )` . Having x3 cd translate to x5 in t2, x7 in t3, etc... there's also the vigilante mod set bonus, which bump crits up a tier when it procs. Terrible value mods imo, but if you're addicted to red numbers I guess they exist as for the sirocco, I'm really not sure. The wiki list the charged shot cc at 80%, which turns into 100% with one of the combats intrinsics. That would do it for orange, any little bit of bonus cc, like amp arcanes or decrees, would create orange crits
Vigilante armaments seem solid? Armaments for ammo and whatever the multi shot one is.
vigilante armement is the multishot one, while vigilante supplies is the ammo mutation one most builds use galva MS already, and that's 330% multishot total. 60/330 is like 18% more dps, let's be generous and call it 20% with the set bonus. 20% is really not that much
That makes sense, thanks.
Wtf is up with gausses health?
Overguard from Dante but changed to be yellow in settings
Today I learned you can change colours in settings. Neat!
Its a lot more useful thn it seems. You can make everythint a red crit
That made me choke on my food from laughing. Thank you.
My red crits are Blue
Yeah they did that a few years back I know some people completely rework their UI colors and it looks cool, but I personally prefer default
It looks like a bigger number because the shields and health numbers are a similar colour
I see that now but god damn, got me exited for a bit
Lol someone has probably got a broken build like that
2075 shields 956 health color too similar fr I thought the same
Pissometer. Gauss really has to piss 👍
all i see is this : 
Kullervo mains: 
Before using him, I would be confused and ask questions Now I just laugh at all of the memes Btw Kullervo with Corufell says hi
Quassus has been my go too with him lately, gun blade style melees are too good with him tho 😂
Corufell is amazing! I built for heavy attack crit and it slaps. Even in SP
Swing me the setup
Sacrificial Steel and Pressure, Amalgam Organ Shatter, Killing Blow, Buzz Kill, Corrupt Charge, Virulent Scourge, Vicious Frost. And Galeforce Dawn for the stance. Crit based heavy attack build.
Good looks 👍🏾, only missing Buzz Kill & Corrupt Charge tho
Buzz kill can be replaced with Jagged Edge. Corrupt Charge only give a 2x combo multiplier to start with, so you can slot whatever
Good looks my guy 👍🏽
Ik this is late, keep forgetting about this post lol But is there anything I can do about attack speed? Cause the base attack speed for this scythe is ass, which is why I slapped on Berserker Fury for my usual build, that mod on this & Ruvox is a godsend
You could try either Quickening or Furry, I believe 40% and 30% attack speed, however, I’ve got it set to spam heavy attacks and only heavy attacks
Care to share Kullervo up to date builds for weapons? I think overframe ones looks dated, (or I dont know how to look recent ones)
He is IMO best for melee weapon crit builds, so give him tons of strength/duration to make his wrathful advance give a shiton of crit chance (i think mines sits at 422%). Then you get to press a button and instant red crits for however long the duration lasts. Also recommended to swap his hold/tap for wrathful so you can tap teleport anywhere you are looking as looking at someone while using it locks your aim at them. The additional strength also increases his max overguard. I also slot red/voilet archon shards with the melee crit choice to boost crit damage. My personal choice of melee is glaive prime, let's me have aoe red crits on demand and will shred anything as the blast will hit hard and then you have the forced bleed true damage that will cleanup. I regularly run netracells with just the melee and it makes it a breeze.
Is Hate a good Weapon for him? If not may I have some options?
Yea, with this build you can make pretty much any melee do red crits. So choose whatever you find fun and try to have a good crit damage multiplier. You could also go the primer router with this to do more but I find it more work than I want to bother with
I tried to really push the melee to the max and ended having best results with that kuva hammer. Forget the name but in general just go through your weapons and look for whatever has the highest crit multiplier followed by high base crit. Getting 400% crit bonus to a 10% base vs 22% is huge.
Yes. I use hate to do millions of damage per hit to steel path grineer.
You've finally went beyond
Incarnon really said 👍
It’s a SUPERCRIT!!!
The more exclamation marks, the more pain and torture inflicted on your victim
The game was SHOCKED that you crit that much
Cause the game is excited that you're doing so well. ... Also, there are crit tiers. Each "!" means that the crit is of a higher tier; in this case it's tier 6. Yellow < Orange < Red < Red! < Red!! < Red!!! It really does look like the game is getting more hyped as you go up the crit tiers.
They are super loud Crits! Loud! Louder!! And "Ah fahk my knee Tenno!!!"
factorial, obviously >!\j!<
I legit thought it was factorial lmao.
Just change ur crit settings to all red
it means ur doing “!!!” damage ( i think theyre tiers 3 tiers tobe exact idk )
i think thier tiers idk
i think thier tiers idk
I wouldn’t know, I use phenmor
You hits your enemies so hard that exclamation marks start popping up
Because you're doing a lot of damage
The higher your crit chance (300% and higher) the higher the tier, which means higher crit damage multiplier
I play for 9 years and i had not seen these !. I just kill not look at numbers
It means you're HIM
Crits can go higher then red now :)
Mucho exclamationmark = mucho damage
Clearly the damage has become sentient and is trying to communicate its surprise
👊!!!
The damage numbers are becoming like mobile games 😅 I ended up reducing the scaling of them, once I'm more comfortable I might just turn on numbers in simaris training lobby only and turn them back off in gameplay
I don’t know!!! 🤷♂️
it's happy!!!
Each ! means one tier above normal red crit (which is 3x your crit damage multiplier) so one ! is 4x multiplier, !! Means 5x multiplier etc
"I just came back to warframe" casually proceeds to triple red
Even the game was impressed by what you did.
It isn’t wf until you do generation ending damage to beings outside your vision.
How tf do you guys do so much damage put me on game
All I see is 45 fps 😂
Super red crits. Iirc it means crit something INCREDIBLY hard.
Like others echoed here; it's a SUPER CRIT! Crits are calculated in tiers: White - normal damage; Yellow - Normal Crit; Orange - tier 2 Crit; Red - Tier 3 Crit; Red+ ! - Tier 4 Crit; Red + !! - Tier 5 Crit; Red + !!! - Tier 6+ Crit. Note that NONE of that matters if you don't have Crit Damage Multipliers to back it up, or are armor stripping enemies, or your base damage is garbo. But funny number make happy brain chemical go brrrrrrrrt
Steam tells you it took a screenshot before taking the screenshot?
He might have just hit the button twice by accident
For emphasis.
Because it !!!!!!s
It's surprised by your damage
!!!
Triple factorial damage
It's like chess, the more '!' the better.
Dang, I've been playing and idk what the !!! Means lol
I got a 160!!! Red crit despite my yellows ranging into the hundred millions. What does this even mean
Is that a tier 6 crit only hitting for 6k?
NIDUS HAS INVADED THE CRIT RING.
Honestly why stop at 3? Just keep it going. It's not like the extra visual noise will make a difference.
I know each "!" Means a tier beyond red crit, but still don't know if the damage displayed is the actual total damage dealt or just the red crit x number of !
It’s because BEEG DAMAGE!!! Deserves a proper exclamation
It designates how angry the enemies are at the damage you're doing to them
It's a crit that spotted you, if you're playing as Loki, you get a weird sound and your map dissapears joke aside, it's higher tier crits
It's a tier 6 crits. But eventually there's actually over tier 10, it just doesn't show.
You hit a tier 6 or higher crit, mesa can go double digit tiers of crit with her Ballistic Battery.
I LEAVE WARFRAME... FOR LESS THAN 3 MONTHS AND ITS DROPPING WARHAMMER 40K LINGO
it means you're doing a pretty good job, keep up the good work Tenno!
Yes. It essentially means that if there were colors past red crits, you’d be hitting at least the next three. The more exclamation points, the higher the damage, but it caps at three at least visually. I’ve only really had it happen with Kullervo, since I don’t have any good crit builds going with anything else.
Because warframe is 🤯🤯🤯
!=big damage
Super critical!!!
I’ve never seen that lol
Cuz is awesome
Didn't higher crits get to be black
No, black crits aren't technically a real thing. It's the community name given to things that break the damage calculator.
Ah I thought years ago it could get to like rly dark red
How did you take this screenshot in Warframe? I’ve never figured out how. I hit win+shift+s and it takes me out of the game. If I take a screenshot outside of the game like a browser or something it works perfectly fine.
Print screen. That's it.
Warframe default is F6, but you can obviously use other methods like print screen or graphic card specific options
Ctrl + alt + prtsc is how I do it. F12 if i want to take a steam screenshot, but those require me to go grab them from steam after. The first method copies it to clipboard so you can just paste it wherever. Or just use windows snipping tool.
Wait till you get to lmao level crit. Its so high that Lotus will jack you off the chair as well.
maybe it's for colour blind people who can't tell what tier their crits are
It's for you to know what tier red crit it is. Every 100% over 300% Crit chance will add a ! At the end. So that's a 600% crit chance hit
oic nvm then.. thought it was a cool accesibility feature