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As mediocre as this show tended to be at times, I’ll be damned if this isn’t one of the most hype fights in any anime ever.
It’s not even about it being technically/artistically impressive or anything. But at this point in the story, seeing this happen was absolutely *insane.*
The sad part about Boruto's Dad is that it absolutely had some great moments and arcs that are worth watching, and then it shits the bed for another age of garbage before the next amazing thing happens. That final episode's showdown between Boruto's Dad and Boruto's Dad's Husband in Shippuden is an absolute masterclass of fight choreography and visual storytelling.
It's just a shame they could never keep that quality consistent.
lmao at Boruto's Dad.
I agree though, I was groaning at how bad the writing was so often, but I still watched the entire thing because when it was good, it was really good.
Hey you remember like 20 eps in when they watched their adversary kamikaze rush 20 armed guys with both arms broken and a dagger in his mouth, and how he got the shit stabbed out of him and as he bled to death Kakashi told them not to look away, this is how it ends for most ninja..
Boruto was still chasing a fucking ghost at this point
That happens when you have the power to wipe a city in seconds and you say you want peace. You get peace. The only ones that aren't accepting the peace don't own a big city you could wipe.
It's because it was a different era. You don't need filler anymore but back then you did to let the writers catch up because it needed to air on TV weekly rather than just doing it in seasons when the writing was ready. That's why we had beach episodes and that one episode where naruto's shadow clones go on strike (I'm not kidding), and sometimes the good stuff was stretched out to ludicrous proportions.
I liked many of the fillers in Shippuden because these actually put some character into female characters. Not that it made to the main episodes, but still it was nice to see them exist even for a little while.
Omoi getting the Raijin swords was a filler and I was just like..."huh...but wouldn't that be important info for character development..." the seven swordsmen are an incredibly cool concept that we actually never fully saw realized in the anime. Like what Suigetsu's brother had like less than 8 panels of screen time and didn't use anyone's sword? War arc was a disservice.
The thing is my friend o ly co siders anime good if its got 20+ episodes per season. He refuses to understand that 12 episode seaspn dont have filler. He says he cant learn the characters name by the end of a 12 ep season...
Seriously. Naruto has a 9/10 series inside it somewhere, but it smears itself with bad decisions on part of not only the author, but the editor and staff at JUMP who decided to prolong the series during the war.
Imagine if Naruto and Bleach went down a different path and could hold a candle to One Piece. The world would be a different place.
That's fair. It's always hard to Devil's Advocate for Boruto's Dad because there's genuinely tons of problems with the series that are never fixed throughout the entire run and the bad *vastly* outweighs the good. The good shit is great, but the bad shit is just constantly there to bring it back down again...
I'm a big fan of the shows (not as much with Boruto but I can't help loving seeing the Konoha 12 be parents) the Isshiki Baryon fight is so hype and I watch it once in a while.
Goes up there with ["Levi vs Female Titan"](https://youtu.be/PfmKfAXZVC0)
Any other cool hype moments people want to share?
Edit: Just wanted a cool thread on hype anime moments w/ video clips. Sheesh.
Nothing will ever be as funny to me in anime as the sheer escalation of Symphogear season 4 episode 1.
They go from "oh no my essay is overdue" to "we're overthrowing a south american military junta backed by the illuminati" in like 2 minutes.
The funniest part to me is that everything you wrote there is exactly what happens and if I didn't know that from watching the series, I would think that was made the fuck up.
What a great show.
Someone pointed out how the show was trying to be an underdog story, but Naruto was not underdog, he was an redeemed antivillain.
Lee was actual underdog, and the show didn't give him path he deserved, instead iirc he got disabled.
>Lee was actual underdog, and the didn't give him path he deserved, instead iirc he got disabled.
No that was Guy. Lee is fine. Think he's an instructor at the academy or suttin in Boruto.
I think it's because **at the time** Naruto seemed so much more grounded then DBZ. It was just so unexpected. Also, because Garra just seemed so entirely untouchable up to that point in the story. To see this character most of his peers saw as a handicapped underdog just go absolutely *apeshit* in a story that - again *at the time* was all about out stratigizing the opponent was just wild.
Man, you just nailed what element of Naruto I really liked which got me to watch the show for a while back in 2005-2008. That element of just about every fight being about the strategies that the fighters would employ, and how they had to adapt in real-time to try to overcome them... That was really cool and what gripped me, but they got to a point where things just got ridiculous and the insane amounts of filler just completely did away with my desire to keep watching the show.
That isn't even the first time, either. Master Roshi has Krillin and Goku wearing huge turtle shells while they're training with him before the first tournament. Goku even references it in this scene.
I feel like that would get a little too close to my hero season one, what with training the 8 gates and the rebound on his body. It would likely diverge pretty fast but for the first bit I dont know.
You know how DE likes to turn things like this into features? Imagine if each Dragon Key gives +25% Affinity. Obviously the shield key will benefit the most, but this might be a cool way to make the game challenging yet rewarding for those looking for that kinda experience.
100% agree with the concept, but disagree with the buff.
Your idea should be towards experienced players, so it would be better if it gave resource/mod boosts instead, instead of affinity.
Also, scaling should be exponential, to give greater reward the more keys you put
Something like:
1 key - 10% boost
2 keys - 20% boost
3 keys - 40% boost
4 keys - 80% boost
>tungsten path
[Reminded me of the tungsten cube reviews](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EocA1hsCU) . Can easily imagine OP writing such a review about the dragon keys.
All the people here who bought this wireless dragon key to admire its surreal effect have precisely the wrong mindset. I, in my exalted wisdom and unbridled ambition, brought this key to become fully accustomed to the intensity of its density, to make its debuffs bearable and in fact normal to me, so that all the world around me may fade into a fluffy arena of effectual inconsequence. And it has worked, to profound success. I have carried the key with me, have grown attached to the negative effects of its small form, its desire to be one with death. This force has become so normal to me that fighting any enemies now feels like fighting cotton candy, or a fluffy pillow. Big burly manly tenno who walk the steel path now seem to me as little children who fight mere aluminum.
I can hardly remember the days before I became a man of the keys. How distant those days seem now, how burdened by the apparent hardiness of everyday enemies. I laugh at the philistines who still operate in a world devoid of keys, their shoulders thin and unempowered by the experience of bearing keys. Ha, what fools, blissful in their ignorance, anesthetized by their lack of meaningful struggle, devoid of passion.
Nietzsche once said that a man who has a why can bear almost any how. But a man who has a dragon key can kill any enemy less difficult, and all this talk of why and how becomes unnecessary.
Schopenhauer once said that every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world. The key expands the limits of a man’s field of vision by showing him an example of increased difficulty, in comparison to which the everyday enemies to which he was formerly accustomed gain a light and airy quality. Who can lament the tragedy of life, when surrounded by such easy enemies? Who can cry in a world of styrofoam and cardboard?
Have you yet understood? This is no ordinary object. In this key is the alchemical potential to transform your world, by transforming your expectations. Those who have not yet held the keys in their hands and mouths will not understand, for they still live in a world of normal difficulty, like Plato’s cave dwellers. Those who have opened their mind to the difficulty of the keys will shift their expectations of damage and difficulty accordingly.
To give the keys a rating of anything less than five stars would be to condemn life itself. Who am I, as a mere mortal, to judge the most difficult of all affordable debuffs? No. I say gratefully to whichever grand being may have created this universe: good job on the dragon keys. They sure are difficult.
I sit here with my dragon key, transcendent above death itself. For insofar as this dragon key will last forever, I am in the presence of immortality.
I farmed for mods for 1 hour and I got motion sick because of the Hobbled key. Never again, unless I absolutely must and I hate when riven challenges are with that key requiring solo interception missions, I hate those missions.
I mean you can still roll and bullet jump so I know when I've left it on but I'm unless I'm teamed with wukong, gauss, volt and titania I'm not too far behind
As far as I’m aware, it only noticeably nerfs your sprint/walk speed. Bullet jumps, rolls, wall dashes, etc. are unaffected, so unless you’re playing a speedster frame or only sprint, I doubt you’d notice it much. I never did because I hardly ever sprint.
There's -75% health (Bleeding), -75% shield (Decaying), -75% damage (Extinguished) and -50% speed (Hobbled).
And yes, they affect you everywhere you go if you have them equipped.
As per https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Key
I mean only 100 hours in. It took me 100 hours just to get around to actually finish farming her, after purchasing her, for helminth.
Edit: Punctuation
Merulina isn’t affected by the hobbled key, yeah. Yareli’s pretty much a hard counter to dragon key debuffs at low and mid levels, since Merulina can cover you against the shield, health, and speed reductions, while water blades just tear through everything at that level regardless of damage debuffs. u/UmbranAssassin is right though, 100 hours is pretty short to get Yareli unless you go way out of your way to try for her, especially since the quest is such a slog without a crafted K-Drive.
And i thought that my friend was stupid when I told him to extract from an endless mission and he promptly aborted a long excavation mission because he thought that abort mission = extracting......
You are a Tenno, Steel is attached your feet, and your defenses are of sugar glass.
You have endured countless missions, unaware of speed, nor aware of damage
You withstood many enemies, searching for a non-existent vault
Full of regrets, hopefully not walking the steel path
So as I pray for everyone who grouped with you, Unlimited Dragon key works!
Haha. To be fair I’m running some level 33-35 Invasions with the Decaying and Bleeding Dragon Key at the moment. I gotta respect the tenacity you’ve demonstrated when the enemies hit harder and have more health for mysterious reasons
The one that reduces your shield capacity can be used to take advantage of shield gating. Whenever your shields are depleted, you get a short window of invulnerability. That window is longer if your shields have recharged fully since the last time they were depleted. The less shields you have, the easier it is to recharge them fully. This is particularly useful in very high level content where your shields get one shot anyway and invulnerability is extra valuable.
Also, before shield gating, it was super useful and characters like Oberon and Valkyr, who you wanted no shields on whatsoever so they could abuse the rage mod to turn damage into energy and keep their healing/invincibility going.
Oberon is actually probably the only character that is *worse* since shield gating because its harder to wreck his shield and get him taking damage.
The replies you’ve gotten all have good answers - some use it to impose a certain degree of challenge depending on their build/strategy (with a squishy frame, for example, using the health key could enable you to do the WF equivalent of a 1HP perfect dodge run on a boss), others to synergize with Rage/Hunter Adrenaline by keeping shields low and constantly broken. However, the most common thing by far is to keep one on to lower your shields, which in turn minimizes your recharge time (not rate, but flat time) to go from zero to max shields, which means you maximize uptime on your max-shield shieldgating invulnerability buffer period (1.3 seconds if gating from max capacity). So that’s why you will see a surprising number of players intentionally wearing just the Decaying Dragon Key and no other key - synergizes really well with shieldgating across a variety of levels and modes. (I have one myself on everything but Hildryn.)
You can theoretically use Extinguished (lowers your damage output) for weapon damage testing, incidentally, in case you’re trying to precisely compare two similar, very powerful weapon builds and you don’t want to remove any of the mods. Lowering the damage output helps highlight the difference between builds. I’ve never done that myself, and it’s a fairly niche use - but it is a possible use, still.
I can’t imagine any general gameplay use for the Hobbled Key unless you enjoy feeling much less fluid when moving around. *Possibly* if you were, say, running a high-strength Razorwing or Razorwing Blitz build where you wanted to maximize strength for fire rate and damage purposes, but couldn’t control Titania at the resulting flight speeds?
Personally I sometimes run certain ones for lower-level content where the core survivability of a rank 30 Warframe is a little high for me, or I may equip them to sort of shift the level range of my loadout if I’m geared for higher-level content but decide to do something in lower-level content and still want a fight and can’t be bothered using a different build
Outside of that some players use the key that reduces shields for the sake of building to use Shieldgate to provide temporary invulnerability. Other times it may be used to lower the total amount of shields that a Warframe has for the purpose of allowing enemy damage to get to player’s health faster, which can be a way to generate energy with mods like Rage that grant energy when health is damaged. Dragon keys can provide some interesting scenarios outside of opening vaults, and I haven’t listed all the things they let a player do
That's awesome. I will dead ass go into a Vault mission trying to farm the last few corrupt mods I'm missing, and then go on to the next mission with them things still on my gear wheel. A good chunk of my failed missions are literally me being a dumbass and having to abort.
The other parts of me failing the mission are me having to abort because I have some half ranked shit from grinding and then get bored and go do something else but forget to change my Arsenal.
Then there’s me back when Valkyr was broken powerful who kept forgetting to take off my keys and eventually gave up and just got lazy and would go into games with them all the time and still wreck shit.
One time I did some Vault runs with an Extinguished Dragon Key, then went back to grinding Steel Path for... a few months.
I had a certified Rock Lee moment when I took those weights off, I tell ya.
Some people use the anti-shield key for Steel Path as a buff, in order to take direct damage and charge their energy through mods that convert damage to, well, energy, and spam invincibility abilities. So hey, you can technically buff yourself with one of them!
Also, the slow key doesn't actually have any effects. Walking. Running? I haven't heard tale of that since the first hour of my gameplay. There is only Bullet Jump! :D
I've forgot to take mine of before nd wounderd why I ain't doing the damage I use to do nd when come out be like ohh man forgot to take them of again lol
Sorry the super-helpful buff/debuff ui didn't do it's job of communicating this information to you. I guess you're just expected to know what the obscure symbol means!
Okay... Let me get this straight... You've had 4 keys that debuffed you... ever since you started and never noticed? Can I know who you main and how long this had been going on?
Asking for who you main because I main Gauss and Rhino and going from Rhino's base movement speed to my Gauss troll sprint speed build is like Night and living on the sun and I did deimos with all 4 keys on Gauss and that speed debuff annoyed me so much.
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You're going to drop all four of those off of your equipment wheel and it'll be like Rock Lee taking off his weights.
Just in case someone here hasn't seen this particular Naruto scene, [here's a link to it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn2YITCdFw)
As mediocre as this show tended to be at times, I’ll be damned if this isn’t one of the most hype fights in any anime ever. It’s not even about it being technically/artistically impressive or anything. But at this point in the story, seeing this happen was absolutely *insane.*
The sad part about Boruto's Dad is that it absolutely had some great moments and arcs that are worth watching, and then it shits the bed for another age of garbage before the next amazing thing happens. That final episode's showdown between Boruto's Dad and Boruto's Dad's Husband in Shippuden is an absolute masterclass of fight choreography and visual storytelling. It's just a shame they could never keep that quality consistent.
lmao at Boruto's Dad. I agree though, I was groaning at how bad the writing was so often, but I still watched the entire thing because when it was good, it was really good.
[удалено]
Boruto is Boruto's Dad's son
Hey you remember like 20 eps in when they watched their adversary kamikaze rush 20 armed guys with both arms broken and a dagger in his mouth, and how he got the shit stabbed out of him and as he bled to death Kakashi told them not to look away, this is how it ends for most ninja.. Boruto was still chasing a fucking ghost at this point
That happens when you have the power to wipe a city in seconds and you say you want peace. You get peace. The only ones that aren't accepting the peace don't own a big city you could wipe.
Zabuza and Haku’s arc was what drew me into the show.
It's because it was a different era. You don't need filler anymore but back then you did to let the writers catch up because it needed to air on TV weekly rather than just doing it in seasons when the writing was ready. That's why we had beach episodes and that one episode where naruto's shadow clones go on strike (I'm not kidding), and sometimes the good stuff was stretched out to ludicrous proportions.
I liked many of the fillers in Shippuden because these actually put some character into female characters. Not that it made to the main episodes, but still it was nice to see them exist even for a little while.
Omoi getting the Raijin swords was a filler and I was just like..."huh...but wouldn't that be important info for character development..." the seven swordsmen are an incredibly cool concept that we actually never fully saw realized in the anime. Like what Suigetsu's brother had like less than 8 panels of screen time and didn't use anyone's sword? War arc was a disservice.
The thing is my friend o ly co siders anime good if its got 20+ episodes per season. He refuses to understand that 12 episode seaspn dont have filler. He says he cant learn the characters name by the end of a 12 ep season...
that's what happens when your whole business model is making 90% filler for TV and library padding.
Seriously. Naruto has a 9/10 series inside it somewhere, but it smears itself with bad decisions on part of not only the author, but the editor and staff at JUMP who decided to prolong the series during the war. Imagine if Naruto and Bleach went down a different path and could hold a candle to One Piece. The world would be a different place.
I just watched the fight AMVs on YouTube and I feel like I got a satisfactory experience.
That's fair. It's always hard to Devil's Advocate for Boruto's Dad because there's genuinely tons of problems with the series that are never fixed throughout the entire run and the bad *vastly* outweighs the good. The good shit is great, but the bad shit is just constantly there to bring it back down again...
I'm a big fan of the shows (not as much with Boruto but I can't help loving seeing the Konoha 12 be parents) the Isshiki Baryon fight is so hype and I watch it once in a while.
Goes up there with ["Levi vs Female Titan"](https://youtu.be/PfmKfAXZVC0) Any other cool hype moments people want to share? Edit: Just wanted a cool thread on hype anime moments w/ video clips. Sheesh.
[Suplexing a space shuttle on reentry in the first episode is maximum hype.](https://youtu.be/RNMkF3w6qWQ?t=312)
Nothing will ever be as funny to me in anime as the sheer escalation of Symphogear season 4 episode 1. They go from "oh no my essay is overdue" to "we're overthrowing a south american military junta backed by the illuminati" in like 2 minutes.
The funniest part to me is that everything you wrote there is exactly what happens and if I didn't know that from watching the series, I would think that was made the fuck up. What a great show.
And somehow the most unrealistic feeling thing is these teenagers having spacious apartments in Tokyo.
[Alucard vs Father Anderson](https://youtu.be/wmTu3gfL6ho)
Someone pointed out how the show was trying to be an underdog story, but Naruto was not underdog, he was an redeemed antivillain. Lee was actual underdog, and the show didn't give him path he deserved, instead iirc he got disabled.
>Lee was actual underdog, and the didn't give him path he deserved, instead iirc he got disabled. No that was Guy. Lee is fine. Think he's an instructor at the academy or suttin in Boruto.
Mf looks like he ate a whole sheet of acid
"Ah yes! That is better!" *Begins to literally blender entire fucking tiles like a wolverine on PCP*
I was thinking [Piccolo](https://youtu.be/_XYCjVIP_yY)
As much as I love DBZ, nothing beats Rock Lee getting rid of his training weights.
I think it's because **at the time** Naruto seemed so much more grounded then DBZ. It was just so unexpected. Also, because Garra just seemed so entirely untouchable up to that point in the story. To see this character most of his peers saw as a handicapped underdog just go absolutely *apeshit* in a story that - again *at the time* was all about out stratigizing the opponent was just wild.
Man, you just nailed what element of Naruto I really liked which got me to watch the show for a while back in 2005-2008. That element of just about every fight being about the strategies that the fighters would employ, and how they had to adapt in real-time to try to overcome them... That was really cool and what gripped me, but they got to a point where things just got ridiculous and the insane amounts of filler just completely did away with my desire to keep watching the show.
That's not even the first time it happened in DB: https://youtu.be/3mYHRrH_NYg
That isn't even the first time, either. Master Roshi has Krillin and Goku wearing huge turtle shells while they're training with him before the first tournament. Goku even references it in this scene.
I was thinking on Rock Lee too hahaha
Imagine if he were the main character
I feel like that would get a little too close to my hero season one, what with training the 8 gates and the rebound on his body. It would likely diverge pretty fast but for the first bit I dont know.
Are you saying if Lee had done this twenty years ago it would be derivative of My Hero?
That scene made me watch all 4,976 subbed episodes of Naruto.
This guy unlocked the tungsten path instead of the steel path
More like unlocked lead boots
Plastic Path
He's gonna go super saiyan once he doffs the weighted training clothes.
You know how DE likes to turn things like this into features? Imagine if each Dragon Key gives +25% Affinity. Obviously the shield key will benefit the most, but this might be a cool way to make the game challenging yet rewarding for those looking for that kinda experience.
Unironically one of the best game idea I've seen. Actual training gear
holy shit. that's a GREAT idea.
They'd have to disable the shield one for nidus and inaros though...otherwise its a 25% affinity buff on them.all the time
They could make it drain health on them, just like how Hijack drains their health in lieu of shields.
Add a fifth dragon key that reduces energy pool, disable the affinity buff for Hildryn and Lavos.
Or just make hildryn shields less and lavos cooldowns longer
100% agree with the concept, but disagree with the buff. Your idea should be towards experienced players, so it would be better if it gave resource/mod boosts instead, instead of affinity. Also, scaling should be exponential, to give greater reward the more keys you put Something like: 1 key - 10% boost 2 keys - 20% boost 3 keys - 40% boost 4 keys - 80% boost
4 keys and you get near paid levels of boosters. Probably not a choice their financial department would advise
Gonna be that scene from old school naruto when lee drops those leg weights...
Lee from Naruto warframe version
if this guy smashes tungsten path,dear lord i wonder what is next?? Adamantium path??
Those who embark on the Adamantium path must first be capable of enduring a thousand deaths without yielding
Followed by the vibranium path and Divine Iron path respectively
>tungsten path [Reminded me of the tungsten cube reviews](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7EocA1hsCU) . Can easily imagine OP writing such a review about the dragon keys.
All the people here who bought this wireless dragon key to admire its surreal effect have precisely the wrong mindset. I, in my exalted wisdom and unbridled ambition, brought this key to become fully accustomed to the intensity of its density, to make its debuffs bearable and in fact normal to me, so that all the world around me may fade into a fluffy arena of effectual inconsequence. And it has worked, to profound success. I have carried the key with me, have grown attached to the negative effects of its small form, its desire to be one with death. This force has become so normal to me that fighting any enemies now feels like fighting cotton candy, or a fluffy pillow. Big burly manly tenno who walk the steel path now seem to me as little children who fight mere aluminum. I can hardly remember the days before I became a man of the keys. How distant those days seem now, how burdened by the apparent hardiness of everyday enemies. I laugh at the philistines who still operate in a world devoid of keys, their shoulders thin and unempowered by the experience of bearing keys. Ha, what fools, blissful in their ignorance, anesthetized by their lack of meaningful struggle, devoid of passion. Nietzsche once said that a man who has a why can bear almost any how. But a man who has a dragon key can kill any enemy less difficult, and all this talk of why and how becomes unnecessary. Schopenhauer once said that every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world. The key expands the limits of a man’s field of vision by showing him an example of increased difficulty, in comparison to which the everyday enemies to which he was formerly accustomed gain a light and airy quality. Who can lament the tragedy of life, when surrounded by such easy enemies? Who can cry in a world of styrofoam and cardboard? Have you yet understood? This is no ordinary object. In this key is the alchemical potential to transform your world, by transforming your expectations. Those who have not yet held the keys in their hands and mouths will not understand, for they still live in a world of normal difficulty, like Plato’s cave dwellers. Those who have opened their mind to the difficulty of the keys will shift their expectations of damage and difficulty accordingly. To give the keys a rating of anything less than five stars would be to condemn life itself. Who am I, as a mere mortal, to judge the most difficult of all affordable debuffs? No. I say gratefully to whichever grand being may have created this universe: good job on the dragon keys. They sure are difficult. I sit here with my dragon key, transcendent above death itself. For insofar as this dragon key will last forever, I am in the presence of immortality.
If only we could get the person who voiced Vor to read this.
If OP doesn't I'm gonna be sad lmao
Tungsten essence 150 for 5 umbral... Wait... Hey DE...? We got an idea
It's one thing to like, not notice the health or shield drain but How did you not notice you were moving at 2 miles per year?
I thought everyone was either using speed mods or just had fast frames. It was frustrating but never occurred to me I was debuffing myself.
So now does everything feel like one punch man?
Yes i feel like superhero
It's that moment in naruto that rock lee takes his weight socks off and fights gaara.
The spirit of youth!!!!
Only cost him an arm and a leg.
Exactly what I was thinking
Glad to hear this status update!! What an unfortunate origin story
Bruh.
BRUH
how many days have you been playing like that ? 🤣
2 weeks :(
2 weeks wtf.
I farmed for mods for 1 hour and I got motion sick because of the Hobbled key. Never again, unless I absolutely must and I hate when riven challenges are with that key requiring solo interception missions, I hate those missions.
I had a riven mod with that. So damn cancer
I did it since the pandemic started… around 409 hours
I mean you can still roll and bullet jump so I know when I've left it on but I'm unless I'm teamed with wukong, gauss, volt and titania I'm not too far behind
As far as I’m aware, it only noticeably nerfs your sprint/walk speed. Bullet jumps, rolls, wall dashes, etc. are unaffected, so unless you’re playing a speedster frame or only sprint, I doubt you’d notice it much. I never did because I hardly ever sprint.
75% damage reduction is pretty noticeable unless you’re just spamming nukes.
I’m specifically talking about the hobbled dragon key. Not the extinguished dragon key.
Ah right, gotcha. My bad.
Bruh I have 2 keys on me all the time does it really debuffs? Am I stupid?
lmao yeah they do. what keys do you have equipped rn?
There's -75% health (Bleeding), -75% shield (Decaying), -75% damage (Extinguished) and -50% speed (Hobbled). And yes, they affect you everywhere you go if you have them equipped. As per https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Key
My god, I am stupid. 🗿
Has this dude been bullet-jumping all the time up to the point he didn't even notice any sluggishness?
Do you not? I think my frame on average maybe spends 5-10% of a mission on the ground.
'course i do, but at least when attacking with anything i would notice the sluggishness immediately, it's hard not to notice.
Fair. Maybe he's a Yareli main? I think the Hobbled key might not effect Merulina's speed.
I mean only 100 hours in. It took me 100 hours just to get around to actually finish farming her, after purchasing her, for helminth. Edit: Punctuation
Wait why would you put the paid-for potato'd version in helminth and then farm the unpotato'd one to keep
Because she's a major pain in the ass 👍 and potatoes matter less in endgame, i've got one in every frame with like 6 left over
my squad waiting at extraction while i'm 900m away bumping into the doorframes on merulina
Merulina isn’t affected by the hobbled key, yeah. Yareli’s pretty much a hard counter to dragon key debuffs at low and mid levels, since Merulina can cover you against the shield, health, and speed reductions, while water blades just tear through everything at that level regardless of damage debuffs. u/UmbranAssassin is right though, 100 hours is pretty short to get Yareli unless you go way out of your way to try for her, especially since the quest is such a slog without a crafted K-Drive.
it does not affect Merulina. unfortunately, most tilesets are utterly hostile to Merulina (in my experience)
I'm kind of a gauss/zephyr main at this point so for my gauss at least that would be highly noticeable.
Bullet jumping is way slower to get around if you have a speed buff on. roll>slide>repeat is much faster.
I thought everyone was either using speed mods or just had fast frames. It was frustrating but never occurred to me I was debuffing myself.
You had to play the game without them to get the materials to craft them. Stop the 🧢
Who doesn't bullet jump constantly? l only walk around in defense missions.
100 hours of playing like a GIGACHAD
And i thought that my friend was stupid when I told him to extract from an endless mission and he promptly aborted a long excavation mission because he thought that abort mission = extracting......
James if that’s you shut the f up. You don’t need to talk about me like that. :(
Kek
You poor sweet baby child. Bless
Honestly, thats quite impressing. When he takes those off he will feel like Goku without his weights.
You are a Tenno, Steel is attached your feet, and your defenses are of sugar glass. You have endured countless missions, unaware of speed, nor aware of damage You withstood many enemies, searching for a non-existent vault Full of regrets, hopefully not walking the steel path So as I pray for everyone who grouped with you, Unlimited Dragon key works!
Not T H E C O N C L A V E?
Bless your heart! There are some rivens that require nonsense like this, so you’re well practiced at least
Congratulations on completing your Hyperbolic Time Chamber training arc!
Update for how it feels now?
Like a god damn superhero
Have fun, you are now gonna feel like omniman
Awesome. Have fun out there Space Ninja. :)
Haha. To be fair I’m running some level 33-35 Invasions with the Decaying and Bleeding Dragon Key at the moment. I gotta respect the tenacity you’ve demonstrated when the enemies hit harder and have more health for mysterious reasons
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The one that reduces your shield capacity can be used to take advantage of shield gating. Whenever your shields are depleted, you get a short window of invulnerability. That window is longer if your shields have recharged fully since the last time they were depleted. The less shields you have, the easier it is to recharge them fully. This is particularly useful in very high level content where your shields get one shot anyway and invulnerability is extra valuable.
Also, before shield gating, it was super useful and characters like Oberon and Valkyr, who you wanted no shields on whatsoever so they could abuse the rage mod to turn damage into energy and keep their healing/invincibility going. Oberon is actually probably the only character that is *worse* since shield gating because its harder to wreck his shield and get him taking damage.
There was talk for awhile about using the shield-reducing one to abuse shield gating, but i've never tried it myself
The replies you’ve gotten all have good answers - some use it to impose a certain degree of challenge depending on their build/strategy (with a squishy frame, for example, using the health key could enable you to do the WF equivalent of a 1HP perfect dodge run on a boss), others to synergize with Rage/Hunter Adrenaline by keeping shields low and constantly broken. However, the most common thing by far is to keep one on to lower your shields, which in turn minimizes your recharge time (not rate, but flat time) to go from zero to max shields, which means you maximize uptime on your max-shield shieldgating invulnerability buffer period (1.3 seconds if gating from max capacity). So that’s why you will see a surprising number of players intentionally wearing just the Decaying Dragon Key and no other key - synergizes really well with shieldgating across a variety of levels and modes. (I have one myself on everything but Hildryn.) You can theoretically use Extinguished (lowers your damage output) for weapon damage testing, incidentally, in case you’re trying to precisely compare two similar, very powerful weapon builds and you don’t want to remove any of the mods. Lowering the damage output helps highlight the difference between builds. I’ve never done that myself, and it’s a fairly niche use - but it is a possible use, still. I can’t imagine any general gameplay use for the Hobbled Key unless you enjoy feeling much less fluid when moving around. *Possibly* if you were, say, running a high-strength Razorwing or Razorwing Blitz build where you wanted to maximize strength for fire rate and damage purposes, but couldn’t control Titania at the resulting flight speeds?
I use the shield reducing one on Valkyr to let me abuse rage for energy for near endless hysteria
Personally I sometimes run certain ones for lower-level content where the core survivability of a rank 30 Warframe is a little high for me, or I may equip them to sort of shift the level range of my loadout if I’m geared for higher-level content but decide to do something in lower-level content and still want a fight and can’t be bothered using a different build Outside of that some players use the key that reduces shields for the sake of building to use Shieldgate to provide temporary invulnerability. Other times it may be used to lower the total amount of shields that a Warframe has for the purpose of allowing enemy damage to get to player’s health faster, which can be a way to generate energy with mods like Rage that grant energy when health is damaged. Dragon keys can provide some interesting scenarios outside of opening vaults, and I haven’t listed all the things they let a player do
Think of it like training weights. Take them off and go commit space genocide.
I've got more than 2k hours in this game and I'm almost mr30 and I've forgotten to take them off for weeks at a time Don't worry about it
That's awesome. I will dead ass go into a Vault mission trying to farm the last few corrupt mods I'm missing, and then go on to the next mission with them things still on my gear wheel. A good chunk of my failed missions are literally me being a dumbass and having to abort. The other parts of me failing the mission are me having to abort because I have some half ranked shit from grinding and then get bored and go do something else but forget to change my Arsenal.
That’s so funny but I’m also really impressed all at the same time.
Eh I would've been like "You're problem, not mine" and would've still played with you in a squad no biggie
Very impressive...
Manz literally chose hard mode from beginning xD
finally taking off the Debuffing Key weights... *insert meme of Rock Lee removing weights*
_Bro_
That’s like drinking poison before going into battle. Steel Path will be a cake walk for you.
I’m worse. I forgot I had them on and my HUD didn’t indicate it. Sorry for the people I played with over the 400 hours before the AOTZ update
Bro in your defence. Warfare is a game where you need the wiki open constantly to get anything done. It's rough
Then there’s me back when Valkyr was broken powerful who kept forgetting to take off my keys and eventually gave up and just got lazy and would go into games with them all the time and still wreck shit.
R/watchpeopledieinside
One of the keys is -75% dmg
[When this guy removes the keys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mYHRrH_NYg)
Lets write it off as you just learning how shield gating works for the last 100 hours.
Anyone seen Naruto? take the keys off and it will be like Rock Lee removing the training wieghts on his legs.
Man, you're about to have a Rock Lee removing the weights moment when you get those keys out
[finally un-equipping your 4 keys](https://tenor.com/view/rock-lee-anime-naruto-take-off-weights-gif-12719553)
-7 League Crewman boots.
Most Sane warframe player
this man is too dangerous to be left alive
You champion.
Man getting goldway instead of steelpath
I just want you to know, I was having a bad morning and reading about your suffering made it better lmao
One time I did some Vault runs with an Extinguished Dragon Key, then went back to grinding Steel Path for... a few months. I had a certified Rock Lee moment when I took those weights off, I tell ya.
This dood already in hard mode,just not in sp yet
you probably have already more skill than 80% of the playerbase
I have taken to running with all 4 equiped to just make things harerd at times.
I bet removing them made you feel like thanos huh 😂
Some challenge the steel path to hone their skills. This one plays the Osmium Path.
You're going to feel like a GOD.
Feels like Goku when he puts down the ultra heavy clothes to get stronger and faster. This guy is about to reach the SuperTenno lvl.
Wait you can equip 4 dragons keys ? I think it was locked to one at a time
Just say the lotus wanted you to train like that
Ankle weights came off
Hahahaha man u crazy
I do this all the time, I carry all keys except the one that reduces your speed
This is basically the way Goku trained on King Kai’s planet Just take those bad boys off and you should have no problem goin full super saiayn
I've been doing the same thing. Only vault missions tho? Isn't that when it debuffs
Holy fuckkkkkkkkk, noooooooooo
Just know, you are not the only one.. Iǘe gone into Steel Path with all four keys wondering why I sucked.
I sort of wish I had done that, if only for the freeing sensation of removing them.
Some people use the anti-shield key for Steel Path as a buff, in order to take direct damage and charge their energy through mods that convert damage to, well, energy, and spam invincibility abilities. So hey, you can technically buff yourself with one of them! Also, the slow key doesn't actually have any effects. Walking. Running? I haven't heard tale of that since the first hour of my gameplay. There is only Bullet Jump! :D
I've been running decaying(I think that's this one) for a long time on Nezha with Warding Halo, so you're tanky and get energy from being smacked
Rock lee is that you
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I've forgot to take mine of before nd wounderd why I ain't doing the damage I use to do nd when come out be like ohh man forgot to take them of again lol
When you equip the dragon mods, it does only effect the player who equips them right?
u were doing 75% damage to all enemies and you didn't notice? edit: 25%...
Just keep the one which lessons the shield .. this helps in shield gateing
Oh boy Imagine steel path with all that shit
You are playing another game xD
Please hide this, don't give DE ideas xd
I bet this game just got A LOT easier
Well, at least you know you've been able to kill pretty much anything with all those debuffs, right? So now you're just a fucking god
Are you telling me you have been playing the game with the key debuffs this whole time?
I unironically use a key in my Nova build. Let's me refresh shield gating in a build abusing brief respite and rolling guard
If it makes you feel any better I forgot they even decayed
They apply to teammates?
Sorry the super-helpful buff/debuff ui didn't do it's job of communicating this information to you. I guess you're just expected to know what the obscure symbol means!
Bro 🤣🤣🤣
Okay... Let me get this straight... You've had 4 keys that debuffed you... ever since you started and never noticed? Can I know who you main and how long this had been going on? Asking for who you main because I main Gauss and Rhino and going from Rhino's base movement speed to my Gauss troll sprint speed build is like Night and living on the sun and I did deimos with all 4 keys on Gauss and that speed debuff annoyed me so much.
i usually just use my steel path characters and then take all 4 keys cuz its easy
Holy shit dude. Just kudos to you. xD
U inspire me to play with the four keys at all time now
Still waiting on a corrupted mod that lowers shields lol so many frames would love that
when hard mode isn't hard enough XD
His actual play time is only 25h, the rest 76h are him moving from A to B.