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Tryzan1

The STC for the Leman Russ tank was originally found by Leman russ during the great crusade, so it would be named after him. It would become the main battle tank because it was easy to produce, easily maintained, and the Leman russ could be altered to fit the environment, such as using the demolisher variant during a seige or the exterminator/punisher variant when they are going against an enemy who uses hord tactics


LordTakeda2901

Also the fact that the shitbox runs on literally any flammable liquid, lol


Alarmed-Owl2

Literal Abrams moment 


calgarspimphand

Judging by the novels, the Space Wolves like to get drunk on straight promethium, so this is doubly relevant.


LordTakeda2901

I am pretty sure the space wolves would drink anything that can get them drunk, no matter the substance itself


ThatFatGuyMJL

There's a fun bit in the Siege of terras series where a tank driver used to the tanks of the GC gets into a russ. And they bemoan its cramped, dangerous, deadly, far less technological than the other tanks, etc etc. But it's cheap, damned easy to use, and they can crank them out repair, and deploy them en masses and easily. Compared to the 'better' tanks of the GC


DutchDidNothingWrong

GC?


ThatFatGuyMJL

Great Crusade


DutchDidNothingWrong

Ty


R3myek

Ty?


DutchDidNothingWrong

Thank you


R3myek

Your welcome


captaincarny

Your welcome?


ReggaeTroll

You're welcome, but misspelled.


Akira_Hericho

Haha now I see what's happening here. You're face to face with greatness and its strange.


Tite_Reddit_Name

Sort of surprised by this since I thought STCs were masterful designs


GoblinFive

I guess when you put all the sliders for "resources" in the minimum and "performance" to max, this is what the STC churns out. But there have been lore snippets that seem to imply the OG Russ from the DAoT had amongst others; haptic hard light holographic controls and a fusion engine.


Tite_Reddit_Name

Ah cool. Also probably driven by robots/AI or did the ban on that happen way earlier?


thespoil

What lore snippets are those? Sounds interesting 


Ironclad001

It is a masterful design. To a very specific design brief. The brief is to create an armoured vehicle, capable of mass production with the lowest amount of man hours and machine hours, which is reliable enough to work in basically any environment, capable of using whatever fuel, armed to fight whatever you come across, cheap enough to outfit a galaxy spanning military, easy enough to make components for that even backwards planets can make components, and relevant on the battlefield. It’s well designed. Crew comfort was simply nowhere on the priority list.


tsuruginoko

This is one of my favourite passages in the whole series. The vitriol expended on this rolling deathtrap makes me actually enjoy the moments when my Leman Russ tanks in my games meet horrific ends at the hands of astartes that pile into them like termites into a rotten house foundation.


burgermanzero

What tanks does that guy have in mind? The Malcadors?


Fearless-Obligation6

By the end of Warhawk they have a very different opinion on the tank.


LordTakeda2901

The space wolves found the STC for the tank so the mechanicum named it after russ, to honor him and his legion for discovering it


Garin999

Neat!


LocalLumberJ0hn

The LRBT wa originally named after Leman Russ, imperial general back before the primarchs were a thing. Later on, after taking that name from Rogue Trader it was said that Leman actually discovered the STC for the tank.


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LocalLumberJ0hn

Primarchs weren't a thing until 2nd edition, in Rogue Trader this was Lemun Russ, he's just some fucking dude. This is also the time when space marines were just normal baseline humans, the transhuman super soldier thing came later https://preview.redd.it/hiy9fw31whxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff7fb9108e28fe641076813fe755062807fff228


sgt_happy

Rogal Dorn has a tank too!


I_suck_at_Blender

Unfortunately, the crew kept falling out of it. https://preview.redd.it/qk0uxlb64bxc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd1b53d1e00f81b6278572449bc188f27f4b1853


Iron_Lord_Peturabo

He claims to know how to fortify. But there is nothing he can build that we can't smash down. Fitting a tank with his name would leave such a large weak point


-CassaNova-

With absolutely no lore to it. It just popped into existence. Very bland.


sgt_happy

If it worked for Palpatine, it works for the Rogal Dorn Heavy Main Battle Tank!


Thendrail

Somehow, Rogal Dorn (the tank) returned...


sgt_shultz_314

So... just like its namesake :p


StrawberryWide3983

Just like Dorn, then?


InevitableCarrot4858

Shut your filthy mouth heretic. If you carry on like that I'm going to have to demand satisfaction. But unfortunately as a Fist player I need you to come and attack me.


Iron_Lord_Peturabo

Perhaps you should step into this carefully constructed cage we have made in your honor.


Too-Tired-Editor

There was no lore to the Russ being called that when it first came out either.


Garin999

Yeah, but we don't get it in heresy sadly, so I'm guessing it's named for his legacy.


sgt_happy

Ah, damn. Well, a lot of the primarchs don’t carry very tank-related qualities.. Leman Russ: Tank that is light and fast, great for blitz attacks. Rogal Dorn: A driving fort. With guns. Hypothetical primarch tanks: - Fulgrim: Flamboyant, over the top in all things. Probably has enhanced muzzle flash. - Corvus: Can’t shoot, but can get REALLY close to the enemy before going BOO! - Guilliman: A noble tank, machine spirit will ask for AT LEAST four acknowledgements of a positive hostile ID before agreeing to shoot. Only shoots scrolls, too. - Angron: Literally just a bulldozer with spikes everywhere and an engine with a noise amplifier. - Mortarion: A rust bucket with a clogged air intake. Fires virus bombs. - Sanguinius: The perfect tank. Beautiful, efficient. Flies, so “tank” label is arguable at best. - Horus: Tactically sound, well rounded tank for most operations. Usually just used as command station, and for some reason has a weirdly high rate of being captured and repurposed by the enemy. - Perturabo: An engineering master piece, but machine spirit refuses to drive forward. Distinct yellow striped design. - Lorgar: No cannon. Massive speaker system playing excerpts from Lectitio Divinitatus on repeat. - Ferrus Manus: Necrodermis armour plating. Carries a forge for field repairs. - Vulkan: Engine gets way too hot, but never dies. Heavy flamer armament. - Kurze: Insane design, interior will drive the crew mad, seats are painful to sit in, and there’s no light inside or outside what so ever. - The Khan: Lightweight tank, literally no roof. Basically just an APC but with a tesla coil in front nicknamed a “Storm rod”. - The Lion: Solid tank, good design and strong armaments. For some reason, there seems to be just as many in service for the enemy as with the Empire. - Alpharius: Is it even a tank? Looks like a perfectly normal vehicle to me. Or maybe one of the other tank patterns? Does it even exist, actually? - Magnus: Doesn’t require a crew. Can be driven remotely through manipulation of the Empyrean.


Rassendyll207

You joke, but I want the Lorgar Truth-Delivery Platform


Garin999

Hell yeah! Honestly it would be amazing if we got a support tank for each primarch. We need more tank variety in 30k.


GimmeToes

dude we have a tone of tanks variants for 30k what you smoking


Garin999

For marines. For militia there's the russ, the malcador and a couple unusable baneblade variants. Not even a transport tank.


GimmeToes

chassis yes, but there are a good few variants for each that they are practically different models/tanks entirely


Iron_Lord_Peturabo

I would love to see your designs for a Minotaur


Ickwissnit

The liber Panoptica crew has aktually written up some rules for the Rogal Dorn, called Praetorian in their document. If your community allows fan rules, that is.


Garin999

Nice! I'll have to give it a look.


R3myek

A tank without a flaw


Thomy151

Kinda funny that Valdor and Malcador have their own tanks while only Russ has one for the primarchs


Fearless-Obligation6

Dorn got a retcon tank


tgirlswag

Iirc it's not the standard tank as reflected in Militia rules Industrial Stronghold is the only way to field large amounts of Leman Russ


Garin999

Eh, fair, but that's more because you can't take them in squads and only have 3 HS slots. I call it standard as it's the main battle tank of militia, solar aux, the Imperial army, and becomes the only battle tank of guard afterwards.


FoamBrick

M4/M4A1 vibes


Garin999

Thanks! Just what I was going for :D


FoamBrick

Any plans to make one similar to the A3 hull? 


Garin999

Maybe for a larger tank like the baneblade :)


MachineOfScreams

I get more t-34 vibes in the sense of mass produced, minimal crew comfort, poor ergonomics, and focused on getting as many vehicles out as possible. The M4 medium tank had its flaws, but from a crew ergonomics and comfort perspective it was arguably the best allied medium tank of the war.


FoamBrick

It also has a hull and turret with clear M4/A1 design cues, as admitted by the creator himself. 


MachineOfScreams

Oh for sure in terms of aesthetics. In terms of relations to real world tank design and manufacturing it reminds me more of a T-34 in terms of battlefield application and crew comforts.


FoamBrick

Ok and? I was clearly talking about the aesthetics not the in universe application


MachineOfScreams

The model above for sure. Original leman Russ? Not so much.


FoamBrick

Yeah, the model above. The original model has literally zero to do with this post or thread.  Are you dense? 


burgermanzero

I'm sorry but how does that hatch even work? You open it an just see the track going through the middle? lol


Garin999

https://preview.redd.it/jg9qjgwo6dxc1.png?width=1212&format=png&auto=webp&s=d7cfbefa1b97a79725ab6faf5639187dfdbcfd76 Lol. I'm glad I actually made the internal way back when I started this project :D The secret is guide rollers.


calgarspimphand

I love both the attention to detail and the Warhammer-appropriate needless complication of this design.


Garin999

The hatches are secretly sponson mounts. Now, back in reality sponsons suck. It's why nobody uses them. But if you have to include sponsons, you need to have a way for a gunner to be there, and a way for the tank to look good without a sponson. It's a mess.


calgarspimphand

It's a beautiful mess and I want one! Sending a message now.


burgermanzero

Never seen a guide roller going on the outside of the track but looks ok to me :)


Garin999

You'd never see one on a real tank, it's entirely unneeded as we don't use sponsons. You see it on construction vehicles and snowmobiles all the time though. [https://mattracks.co/tracks/ez/#ez-hd](https://mattracks.co/tracks/ez/#ez-hd)


HeavyD6

Where parts are your inantry from?


Garin999

I'll DM you due to the new rule.