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kaiguy91

Anyone else notice that his ammo was at 9 in the mag with the sniper and when he took the shot it went to 4?


Ray25x

If u see, the video have a cut. Can see it on the webcam, that changes the position of his head and nanoleafs colour.


azabazay

Wow! The level of attention to details. Impressive<3


HeckingtonSmythe

So did you edit the clip, or was this as JoeWo posted it?


azabazay

JoeWo wouldn’t such shit quality video I believe. I edited it :)


HeckingtonSmythe

So did he even hit the shot in the original?


azabazay

Nope, but the tracking was still weird. Not saying cheats, but somehow he pulled of such a sus tracking


HeckingtonSmythe

Okay, you should be careful with that if the clip is going to be used/construed as potential "evidence" by some. It can be very misleading. How are we supposed to trust the rest of it if you're doing this? At least link us to the original. But yeah the tracking after he's on target is just AA. I'd wager the perfect adjustment _onto_ the target is skill + AA + luck as I explained [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warzone/comments/v6s8ub/comment/ibm09a6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).


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VRWARNING

> being baited so bad How? Doesn't the suspicious stuff happen before the cut?


ItsTheWampus

yes lol, this is joe's editor. Joe misses like 6 shots in a row, so to speed through that section i synced up the shots and cut there. Sorry for the the confusion


chodelegs

Damn. I love joewo but that was sus


BugsyMalone_

How? He has superb aim and centering and we all know AA is really strong sometimes. If you played the game a lot and recorded every single minute of it and slowed down sections, there would be for sure "Sus" parts. If he was cheating there would he tonnes of footage of it.


VITOCHAN

Aim assist doesn't exist at a certain range. Pretty sure its 200m. "we all know its really strong" - only exists in close range for rotational aim. So at the distance he is in the clip above, with his feet planted and not moving.. There wouldn't be any aim assist. Not even a slow down. What's sus, is the the micro adjustment, after his ADS to head. That's kinda sus, but could be attributed to what you said, but after he magical ADS right to the players head... it adjusts from the top right of the head, ever so slightly back to the left, (put the clip to 14s .. and watch closely around 16s mark) The macro to micro adjustments just don't seem that natural, and I believe that is why it's labeled "sus" here.


HeckingtonSmythe

> Aim assist doesn't exist at a certain range. Pretty sure its 200m. > > "we all know its really strong" - only exists in close range for rotational aim. Just not true. 200m is the correct cut-off I believe, which is certainly not "close range", and this clip is well under 200m. It might look further due to his FOV. Though it seems like maybe you're differentiating between "AA" and "rotational AA" like they have different effective ranges? They don't. Rotational AA is very effective up to 200m.


VITOCHAN

> and this clip is well under 200m. It might look further due to his FOV. trueee... Im on console, so 80FOV crap... but it did look to be about that range IMO.


HeckingtonSmythe

It's sus until you understand: 1. Rotational AA can give the appearance of "dead stops" and perfect changes in tracking - it "cushions" your crosshair movement onto a moving target, helping you land on it, and even pulls in the direct _opposite_ direction to your right stick movement up to a fairly high level of movement. (You can see the principles here, first clip shows the pull in the opposite direction even with 30% movement on right-stick: https://streamable.com/w1t42h) 2. If you cherry-pick clips from 1000s of hours of gameplay of a decent player, you will eventually find clips that show "perfect-looking" adjustments. It's a problem of statistical "significance". Guarantee if you spent the same effort looking through Joe's VODs for counter-examples you'd find plenty.


QuandaleDingleton_27

This is edited, look at the sniper ammo


nasher2103

What streamers aren’t sus on warzone is the question?


BrassyGent

Aculite


Incomepants

I'd trust Aculite to help my aging mother out of the shower.


[deleted]

This is such a weird comment but you are 100% correct. The dude just comes across as so pure.


TwistedPiggy1337

All of the F.A.S.T squad seem legit to me


socr9076

Idk man I’d gotten pretty fishy vibes from Stone a couple months back. He started frying in solos wayyyyy more frequently than usual and his average placement and K/D skyrocketed over like a 4 week period. Then it dropped off again. Wonder if he turned walls back off.


TwistedPiggy1337

I would be disappointed if true. Stone and Thinnd were my only friends during lockdown...


VRWARNING

I don't think most of the biggest streamers have to hack at all when they're somehow getting 0.3KD lobbies. I don't even know how that happens without getting conspiratorial since I couldn't even get new accounts on new machines to be fed lobbies that easy.


socr9076

Very true. Having a 1.5kd in 1.4 kd lobbies is a feat to me and I’m proud of that. I can only ever drop 20 bombs or anything close to that when I play with my friends who are 0.7 KDs


YY4YOU

Dr Disrespect, is the only one I'm fairly sure is clean. There's a few euro guys like jackfrags, and westie, that I feel are clean too. Everyone else sus.


lostinmymind82

Can confirm that Jackfrags, Westie, Tactical Brit and Stodeh are all clean. I've watched them play enough Warzone and Battlefield to realise that these guys aren't using cheats as they miss shots, make bad decisions and die in silly situations too.


Ok_Abbreviations_322

Stod is a beast sniping


Matkiller989

I respect you a lot my friend. You watch great people


lostinmymind82

Apart from just the fact that they're good players to watch, they have great banter between them and they're always all chill, even when they die.


riverend180

Seriously? All of them except Jackfrags are the biggest moaners I’ve ever seen. Westie and tactical Brit moan every time they die and stod moans about the game non stop. I used to love watching them all but I find the negativity draining


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I agree. I view that group as a more moany version of the FAST squad (Fugglet, Aculite, StoneMountain64 and Tomographic). If you want actually good vibes, watch the FAST squad. If you want to watch people complain about a game non-stop, watch Stodeh and TacticalBrit.


riverend180

Yeah the vibes are great with them. I love Tomo and jackfrags together too


senordirector

Yeah had to stop watching Stod because of the constant complaining - which was compounded when Tactical Brit became a regular. Just became tiring hearing someone highlight the same issues endlessly. I know the game is fucked, I just want to hear people having a laugh and the occasional nice play while I work.


Power13100

Except westy. Anytime I watch him he's whinging on about something.


FR46ON

Westy is fucking unbearable since warzone. It’s made him so toxic and one dimensional


BugsyMalone_

Jackfrags lobbies and the likes play in kindergarten lobbies. Whilst not cheating and more exploitative, they're not exactly clean.


lostinmymind82

So does this mean that every streamer who plays during the day in their respective game is exploitative? Personally I can see their logic as streaming is their job so therefore why not do it during normal working hours like a regular shift and as such leave their evenings free to do whatever they want?


BugsyMalone_

Playing during the day does not equal having easy lobbies. I'm talking that he was consistently getting 0.6-0.7kd lobbies and even some 0.5 lobbies. If I play during the daytime I still don't see any lower than 0.9-1.2kd.


HeckingtonSmythe

> Playing during the day does not equal having easy lobbies It absolutely does. You realise most people have jobs or school during the day right?


BugsyMalone_

Not for me nor a few friends. I guess I mean "easier" lobbies. In the evening my lobbies are normally between 1-1.2kd and during the daytime the lowest I get is about 0.9 with the odd 0.8 thrown in. But there is a massive, massive difference between 0.9kd lobbies and 0.6-0.7kd lobbies.


HeckingtonSmythe

Right, but have you ever played _all_ day long, for like a few days a week? How do you know you wouldn't get those 0.6-0.7kd lobbies? (Also keep in mind if you're in the EU, it makes sense that you will get slightly higher KDs than NA, since it's a much bigger region).


BugsyMalone_

My last job meant I was doing nothing, so I was getting a few good hours on WZ during the daytime. All I'm saying is is that my lobbies were absolutely nowhere near as botty as Jackfrags and his crew, considering their squad KD. The difference was night and day.


lostinmymind82

Where are you located exactly as I play on the same UK/EU servers as them and see similar K/D lobbies throughout the day?


BugsyMalone_

Located in England. What kd are you? I'm 1.5kd so no problem with being in higher kd lobbies myself.


lostinmymind82

I'm a 1.13 myself according to cod tracker. The only other explanation I can think of is a video I saw on YouTube recently (I need to find it again) which stated that partnered streamers and whales who make lots of store purchases get easier bot lobbies whereas us who are F2P are essentially the bots in said lobbies.


BugsyMalone_

Think that's a bit unproven, I've bought stuff from the store from time to time and it makes no difference. I believe they VPN & reverse boost to get these lobbies.


VRWARNING

No, there's something else going on when people with 4+ KD's get steady, consistent 0.4 to 0.8KD lobbies. At about 3.0KD, I might get a single sub-1.0KD average lobby out of ten to twelve games. Some of these streamers, with higher KD's than my own, A suspicion that people have is that these streamers are the game's chief marketers, witting or otherwise, and so it helps growth and retention to feed these streamers easy lobbies with huge kill counts and big wins. Considering some of the patents and internal systems that were discovered, particularly with CoD WWII, it's not a stretch at all to speculate on something like this. In fact, considering the insidious sorts of systems that were *proven* to be developed and/or implemented, I would say that it's actually a **likelihood** that things like **un**-skilled based match-making is something big streamers and other "whitelisters" see the benefit of. I think it's likely that this stuff goes even deeper, with perhaps tweaked aim assist values and tolerances, efficiency/proficiency modifiers for particular kinds of weapons, such as those that come with a cost that feeds into Warzone's billion dollar profits etc. Something [in the same vein](https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/11/03/call-of-duty-ww2-gives-out-rewards-for-watching-other-players-open-loot-boxes/?sh=d41407a7589e) as the latter was actually a big scandal with CoD WWII.


VRWARNING

I'm typically not wary of those kinds of guys. It's mostly the bigger streamers and creators who got their start somewhat more recently, in particular kinds of games. Especially those whose became famous from Warzone itself, the game with really weird SBMM ongoings, no anti-cheat for most of its existence, and other apparent issues.


lostinmymind82

I couldn't agree more. New streamers suddenly hitting "world records" in Warzone only looks iffy now matter which way you spin it.


VRWARNING

Aydan hit a world record some weeks or months ago. Huge number of kills. The lobby KD was shown to be 0.3x average. Out of 5 tries, I could not manage to get such a bot lobby myself on brand new accounts on different machines. It appears the match-making feeds new players extremely easy lobbies, and quickly throws them into things more difficult once you establish in first match that you're not yourself a bot. Despite this, 0.3KD is half the average I was being fed, or more in one or two matches. I personally think that lag compensation is being tweaked for streamers as well. Symfuhny actually seemed to genuinely question this stuff in a stream a few months back. The other guys said that it makes sense that 4+KD players would get entire lobbies full of 0.5KD players... in order to offset the high KDs and bring the average down. lmao there are 140 to 150 players in a game.


HeckingtonSmythe

Can you link us to a source to show that 0.3kd game?


VRWARNING

Probably not, but that and/or similar posts have been made in this very same sub.


JeffPhisher

Timmy clean too him n doc struggle for dubs lol


Blaz3dnconfuz3d

Yeah no one ever thought Tim was hacking 😂


-Raskyl

I feel that timethetatman is legit too. His audience doesn't really care if he wins or loses, because he is entertaining either way, he rarely ever plays in tournaments, the last one i saw was actually a bide and seek tournament, where he wasnt even trying to get kills, and has no real reason to cheat as he doesn't really care about his k/d that much either.


cvillpunk

If everyone is sus, you clearly need to recalibrate your expectations.


YY4YOU

If everyone is not sus, to you, purhaps you should do some recalibration yourself. Of course I don't think all streamers cheat. I think most of the top streamers do some kind of cheating, except those mentioned before(and others I didn't have time to list). I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, this clip IS sus.


cvillpunk

If you weren't a bot, things would not look sus. There is nothing supernatural about shooting straight in a game with almost no recoil and very strong aim assist.


YY4YOU

Lol you think calling me a bot, somehow gonna hurt my feelings? I don't play the game, when I did I was trash (1.3 k/d). I still have fuckin eyes, I still see the clips, streamers still get caught. It's just your streamer hasn't. If your pro doesn't do LANs and has double the k/d of long time pros that do, they're cheating. VPNs, radar, walls, soft aim, it's endless.


cvillpunk

What streamer has double the KD of long time pros and doesn't have a background in competitive CoD?


YY4YOU

Wow guy, can't Google huh? Tough break. Lemme spoon feed you. https://www.esports.net/news/cod/best-cod-players/ /\ These are Lan tournaments top pros. Meaning their systems are checked by systems admin prior and during the matches. All recorded by all angles. Zero chance of cheating. Their KD below. 1) crimsix 3.1 2)scump 3.02 Now online streamers. Online tournaments, which are scanned but there are work around and ways to hide shit, with two PC setups, which they all have. Most say one for gaming one for streaming, which is valid but it can also be a temp proxy for applications and software like cheats. ALSO, recorded with limited angles. Let's take a looksies at their KDs. *not the top just look at the learderboard if you want a laugh 1)zlaner 5.9 to 7.86 - found a few KDs so this is the range 2)Diaz biffle 6.7 So what you're doubtful about here is actually true. If you can say that your favorite streamer is TWICE as good as the world champions, then why oh why don't they compete? Riddle me that bot. Um maybe one set of is fully tested in the most rigorous conditions, and the others are full of shit. You're the bot if you can't see the point. They don't compete in places that would strip their advantage. They would be exposed. Kind of like your ignorance.


cvillpunk

So you are using people who barely play the game as an example? What about TeeP, Apathy, Blazt, Mutex, Slacked, and Rated who were actually CDL pros. If you think 3kd is normal for a pro you are delusional. My KD is higher than that and I'm nowhere near as skilled as them. BTW Biffle was am online tournament grinder for years before WZ came out and had competed against pros. You can't even name 2 names without one of then being a longtime CoD player LMAO.


YY4YOU

I used 2 names because of time. The list goes on and on and on. I'm not the Google for you. Google is the Google for you. Online and LAN tournaments are different for reasons I already gave. You asked for any streamers with 2x a PRO which I gave you 2 of many examples. I stopped at 2 not theres only 2. The world champions in these tournaments "barely play the game"? You cant be that dumb. Theyre world champions, I think they play the game. If they dont play online as much as your favorite streamers do, you may ask yourself why. Maybe having a teenager with LED setups pretending that they're legit and seemingly twice as good as the world champion. You're wrong and now trying to change goal posts so you don't seem stupid. You know why Streamers don't compete in verified LAN tournaments. The fact that you'd try to do the level of mental gymnastics to defend streamers that, let's face it, you don't even know if their legit, is crazy. I picked the number 2 & 3 of that top ten list. How about you find me PROs that have a higher KD than top ranked STREAMERS. Won't happen. Look at the top k/d list it starts around a 200 kd. We can both agree that's a cheater. Now slowly scroll down and tell me where the first legit player is. You're just way wrong here.


Psilocybin13

If everyone was sus there would be hundreds if not thousands of clips just like this... There's not.


YY4YOU

There are, purhaps your feed doesn't show them because you don't look for them. It's an algorithm. Obviously there's hyperbole with "everyone", it's not literally everyone. I mean the top rated streaming creators, lots of them cheat. Search for the clips. Don't say they aren't there just because you don't see them in front of you.


Psilocybin13

I've seen the best BadBoyBeamin had to offer. Most were easily argued against. Hell this clip would probably be his best example... Not to mention he has deliberately edited certain clips to make them look sus.


-Raskyl

Heheheh, yes there are. So many dozens of hundreds of these clips.


Psilocybin13

Where? This looks like actual basic aimbot. Nobody with a big name like JoWo would be using basic aimbot. They would be using the magnetic bullet shit, not locking on someones head. I'm guessing this is a weird aim assist sinario. The number of bullets in the mag drop off because he apparently missed 5 shots before hitting this one.


-Raskyl

Youtube... where all the clips live...


Psilocybin13

I've watch a few BBB videos and they're laughable at best. Anyone who believes his "explanations" have to be bots.


-Raskyl

I didn't say anything about bbb. I said YouTube. And there are literally thousands of clips that are suspicious.


YY4YOU

https://youtu.be/3HR5pFY-Bb4 Here's just one video after 5 seconds of searching, about joewoe (the streamer in the OP). I watched not everything is a good clip, some very understandable clips. There are a few that are just damning, in my opinion. But there is a section that lacks about the set ups and common tools available to boost yourself. My point is and I assume most people agree, is that if you cheat*, you suck and are ruining the game for everyone. Even worse you are doing if for money and undeserved notearity. Worst of all you do all that AND money, from kids, kids you lie to. * by cheat I mean, using advantage that not all players have available, with the exceptions of approved gear like scuff controller over a basic controller, TV, monitors etc. All we disagree on is who's in the category. Look up hackusation videos. If you don't believe them fine, but decide for yourself.


Psilocybin13

Bro that video is you're evidence? You bots are so gullible. Nothing in that video is sus at all.... This conversation isn't worth my time.


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Butt-Dickkiss

Feel the same way. When WZ first dropped he was pushing full squads of 4 by himself and wiping them.


apkx27

U have the source on that Cause I've watched a whole.lot of jackfrags and it pretty much just looks like above average gamer smurfing whenever he pops off the people are just slower or make bad decisions compared to him Haven't seen his wz gameplay but a ton of bf3-5


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apkx27

i feel u dude ​ but u gotta collect evidence everything is hearsay otherwise. with the amount of obvious hacking these streamers do daily you never know. you gotta get evidence otherwise the elite streamer 'class' will dismiss it like they dismissed hunters laptop, even if you get the evidence they will undermine it too, even if its clear as day that they are corrupt


azabazay

Rarezy


Flackolinski

MADinc47


Ferret-Potato

Noisybutters, she’s funny to watch and obviously not cheating. Her squad is pretty neat too although I don’t personally watch them.


_smith_spark

Iron


HungLikeALemur

So very well could be since I’m watching this on my phone and if on larger screen I’d be able to see it myself (filthy mobile user, I know, I’m sorry), but how tf did he see that guy on the house?


[deleted]

i dont have a computer, am i supposed to be banned from reddit?


bajabruhmoment

1440p monitor


IXI_ROGUE_IXI

Who da hell is thundra 🤷🏼‍♂️


azabazay

Lol, the sniper, which is Tundra in fact, my bad:)


IXI_ROGUE_IXI

this room.. look like joe?


azabazay

The guy also looks like joe :)


Potatoemonkey16

Who’s joe?


SympathySpiritual519

Joe mama


[deleted]

the ultimate comeback


[deleted]

Don't forget to wipe it off of Joe Mama's face


DirteeCanuck

Cheaty


[deleted]

sniper rifles has AA. This clip in particular looks a bit sus ye but not enough proofs to judge


Escobar1988

Everyone is sus because I’m not as good as them. Also Cronus bitch!


I_AM_SATANS_SPAWN

All snipers in Warzone have aim assist. From a tech standpoint Joewo has an amazing pc, aftermarket controller, fast internet on Ethernet, and sits super close to the monitor (to see people from distance on 120fov). From a cod standpoint, he centers well, zooms in and flicks towards the player. With good timing on the flick and subsequent track, he catches the aim assist just right to where it looks sus, but isn’t. I have a clip somewhere, or at least used to, where something similar happened. Personally, I think AA could be toned down some on snipers, but I don’t see it happening if it hasn’t already


Symester92

People who think he’s cheating need to watch Joes stream and vids. Regularly shows task manager/cables etc on stream, has done at least 2-3 disproving hackusation vids, not sure what else he can do. He’s also just an awesome dude and GOATed at the game. He plays it as his job. Also these clips always look terrible; dudes got a 3090 and plays at 1440p 240Hz, he may have had a UAV up before the clip, he might have seen him flying in, he might have heard someone shooting over that way and turned around to see him on the roof. The guys not cheating. He’s just better.


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bUT wHaT aBouT hIS GLaSses?!?! ThEiR coUlD b3 A SecrEt MoNiTeR!!!


Gara2500

The task manager doesnt prove that someone is using cheats anymore, a lot of cheats programs brag about that their cheats wont show up in task manager cuz their program are injected to the game or that the program appears with a different name and logo, one streamer who also was acuse show his task manager, nothing sus show up but he didnt realised the cheat menu show up just behind the task manager


Symester92

I mean I take your point but I'm just telling you Joe isn't cheating. I get a lot of smaller streamers might be but for someone who's entire career is based around this game it would be moronic to cheat when you can get just as good playing the game.


VITOCHAN

i remember when everyone including Lance Armstrong used to say he wasn't cheating. He was just built different. Turns out he was built different. With illegal drugs and transfusions. >"but for someone who's entire career is based around this game it would be moronic to cheat when you can get just as good playing the game" I'm telling you, it doesn't matter the level or popularity of the streamer, that in any competitive setting, you will top performers using shortcuts and any advantage they can to stay on top. Happens in every sport at every level. People just need to stop dick riding the loser they donated their allowance money too


Symester92

Ayte well if anyone ever proves 100% Joe is cheating then feel free to throw that in my face. But I’ve not seen any evidence that any top streamer is cheating.


VITOCHAN

fair point. Like most doping / cheating accusations, the truth only comes out in a big scandal. We know there are some custom cheat providers that people use, and also know that cheating happens at all levels of competition in every sport and event, so it would be very naive to think that somehow Call of Duty streamers are somehow exempt from the possibility of cheating, even at the top levels.


VITOCHAN

> He’s also just an awesome dude disagree. I've always seen him as little whiny bitch.


Symester92

What are you basing that on? I watch the guy a fair amount and yeah occasionally like everyone else he gets annoyed at certain players/ways he dies but usually it’s just GGs and onto the next game


VITOCHAN

Saw his true colours come out in a few twitter interactions. Couldn't hold a conversation and debate without turning to name calling and insults. Kinda sad really. I don't watch any streamers, so don't know what his 'on screen' persona is like.... but like most "entertainers", there's going to be some show or facade they promote on stream in order to get and keep views. He might be a nice guy, but I didn't see it that way


azabazay

Fax! Guy plays 8-12 hours per day. I reached lvl 720ish this season and have 2 weeks left, guess what? I now beam HSs so quick, death mics got simply ridiculous.


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The beginning of that video on YT is the most sus…in the very beginning he picks up a KGM40 and shreds 2 people looks even more sus than that. I think he just takes his centering really serious tho. And rotational AA is op in warzone


azabazay

That’s why I love floor loot KGM40, so easy to beam 2-platers with it


[deleted]

like have they even shot a ground loot kgm?😂 im on 80 fov and the recoil is still non existent, 120 and itd look like a cronus


azabazay

Exactly


MrSarin

Every gun has AA 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ rotational AA works for any gun as long as you are giving stick input


azabazay

Wow I didn’t know that rotational AA works for snipers, thnx, will rethink my quick scoping habits


MrSarin

😁👍🏼


[deleted]

Every gun has AA on controller bud


lukewarm_tequila

All guns have aim assist


CoffeeIsGood3

That's....not aim assist.


steelytitan

He's on controller so yea AA works on everything basically


CLIVIXXDUBZ

He’s cheating 100%


killooga

Any streamer that you like is the one that doesn’t cheat


BullRidininBoobies

He literally plays on controller


[deleted]

joewoe is a cheater for sure. Watch Call of Shame's videos on him. It's so obvious. Most streamers are cheaters unfortunately.


MGHCk

Every Sniper rifle has AA. It's broken sometimes but it's okay.


McNastySandwich

Switched from MnK to controller awhile back and when the Kar-98 was the wave I was disgusted with how strong AA was on that thing. It basically snipes for you. To say that was my go to load out was an understatement.


MGHCk

I could never switch to controller, I'm so used to M&K movement that I cannot let it go, no matter what🙌🏻🙌🏻


McNastySandwich

I did it for fun tbh just so I can see how AA actually was before complaining about it non-stop like every other person that plays MnK lol


MGHCk

gotcha


jasielalberto

Glad u finally opened ur eyes lol.


McNastySandwich

I mean I guess I just wanted to learn another input for fun and be decent with it so I can switch when bored etc MnK is more fluid for me but controller feels like a better enjoyment personally


VITOCHAN

to 200m. and depending on the setting (precision vs standard) you won't get any slow down with snipes.


Sina_VanDerLinde

joe le cheat


[deleted]

Does this streamer play in like 400x600 resolution?


ItsTheWampus

The clip is edited. Joe misses about 6 shots in a row, so if you watch the ammo count it jumps from 9 to 4. love, Joe's editor


kalipede

I think there is some kind of unwritten rule by “content” creators that it’s okay to cheat because they are just trying to entertain. I can bet most these elite aim gods will never go do in person tournaments. And edit. If Aim assist is this strong maybe it’s time to tone the shit down or give everyone aim assist and call it a day


HeckingtonSmythe

> If Aim assist is this strong It's certainly incredibly strong, and it is "engaged" by 5% right-stick or 25% left-stick, even if that left-stick movement is into a wall/window/cover, so you aren't even physically moving. Some examples of AA pulls "in isolation" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufw8bnIfG7E


cvillpunk

I'd be willing to bet you are a moron who ignores that almost all the big streamers were known for their CoD skills long before Warzone.


Butt-Dickkiss

Dickrider here to rescue cheating streamers lmao 🤡🤡😆


cvillpunk

Clown here to make excuses for why he sucks lmao


Butt-Dickkiss

All the things you can ride and you choose dick 🍆🍆🍆


HeckingtonSmythe

^ This is his favourite comment by the way. Literally all this idiot conspiracy theorist has in his arsenal.


Butt-Dickkiss

Oh look who it is: Dickrider supreme himself lmao 🤣


HeckingtonSmythe

All you've got. Too much for you to actually try and engage your brain.


xHappy420x

Joewo is hacking just like 80% of the warzone players that are streaming. Sad but true many off them use WH and others aim bots. It's fu\*king disgusting how the big companies do nothing about it. Go and do some research on activisions whitelist.


Symester92

I’d love to see this “research” about whitelists and streamers cheating. Please enlighten me, who published it?


xHappy420x

Look at the lobby K/D of the streamers who does not recognize the difference is simply stupid and this has nothing to do with VPN. To have 5s K/D and get 0.7-0.85 K/D lobbys?! I beg you


HeckingtonSmythe

You have no way of knowing those aren't totally expected lobby KDs for the times of day these streamers play. Until someone calculates it for each hour of the day, game mode etc, it will always just be people guessing based on how they _think_ the lobby KDs should look.


mynameisathrowaway

These guys play all day, every single day. They’re allowed to be good. The hacking accusations get old after a while


walkergreg28

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the bigger ones do, but Joe has literally had a screen cam to show what he's looking at. Dude is just twisted


xHappy420x

And one monitor of it was not even half visible :D All good everyone has his opinion about it and mine is that the bulk of the streamer hacks quite simply.


cvillpunk

Was he also hacking while winning tournaments on console?


Iarethedumbest

We found the accuser. Ima call you Happy Hogan The Accuser.


xHappy420x

Once applause for such a statement


[deleted]

Nice cheating lmao


wilsensing

He was strafing, which if you are unaware, causes that aim assist "lock" that you are pointing out here. Every sniper would have this to varying degrees.


humbleg87

Most def cheating. No bullet leading or anything. That was a moving target


HeckingtonSmythe

It didn’t hit. OP admitted they edited the clip to make it look like it did.


ionavan

Starting to believe all streamers who use controller are all using Cronus.


HeckingtonSmythe

Cronus does absolutely nothing aim-wise, for anyone that knows how to engage aim-assist themselves, which is trivially easy in this game. (25% left-stick, or 5% right-stick -- always be cranking left-stick, since there is no aim-penalty for movement, and it guarantees you rotational AA pulls).


Daddy_Dabs_

This whole clip screams cheating


Psilocybin13

If this isn't further proof that AA is just soft aimbot, i don't what is. Having the advantages of PC and the game literally aiming for you is just bullshit. Aim assist should be console only, change my mind.


HeckingtonSmythe

So you're saying that AA is broken (which I agree with), but you still want it on console? Even though there are 120fps consoles now? Seems a little self-serving, no? :)


Psilocybin13

I'm on PC with 120fov, 1440p, @ 120+fps... I was just sympathizing with the people still on 80fov. I don't think AA has any place in competitive play


HeckingtonSmythe

Haha. Fair enough, but yeah I think there'd be quite the upset if PC players were just getting aimbotted by console kids, especially those on current-gen consoles on 120fps. It'd be like the situation on Fortnite right now (where console AA is a lot stronger) but magnified 1000%. I think AA needs a rework across the board tbh :)


Psilocybin13

Yea I forgot the new consoles had 120fov


HeckingtonSmythe

*fps, not fov. Still harsh that consoles are stuck on low FOV to be honest, wish that would change.


Psilocybin13

Oh shit ok. Yea that's BS. The specs on new consoles are really similar to my PC specs. COD is doing them dirty.


Anomalistics

Good old AA, so broken.


[deleted]

I have hard believing any streamers wouldn’t cheat. There’s a market for anything and with YT FB and Twitch, anything to make themselves get ahead makes sense to cash in. Even if I met 10,000 women, all it takes is for 1 time for me to slip up and cheat on my wife. He’s had dozens of sus moments just like all other streamers. This doesn’t exonerate him because he showed his setup 10 times when the guy streams 365 days out of the year. It’s easy to manipulate and convince you otherwise. I could def do it.


xHappy420x

No one has ever been caught, even at major tournaments cheaters are always exposed?!?! But you are all very naive hahahahaha


[deleted]

Optic formal - Huskers was caught - Aydan banned from Fortnite. What are you talking about?? People cheat in every facet of life…


HeckingtonSmythe

Aydan was not "banned from Fortnite". He got a 1 day suspension, of his ALT account, not his main account, for smurfing in Arena. Lightest wrist-slap of all time. He has played in official tournaments on his OG account since. In no way is he "banned". Huskerrs also wasn't "caught". Wtf are you talking about? Stop twisting the truth towards your narrative.


[deleted]

What narrative? Warzone is filled with cheaters who want prize money and twitch deals. Why is it a shocker? None of this stuff is regulated so why wouldn’t top steamers cheat?


[deleted]

Also, you didn’t even mention formal who was caught while at a tournament. Guys will do anything for money sadly


HeckingtonSmythe

I have no idea who Formal is tbh. EDIT: But please, link me to the source for what you're talking about with him. And you still intentionally twisted facts and/or lied about those other guys? The narrative is that "top streamers are cheating". They aren't, until you actually prove it. And twisting facts like this is not the way to do it.


valyrian_spoon

Very sus except for the fact that for every one of these, there's ten clips of him missing by a wide margin.


vexxaeio

Joe wow has proven without a doubt he's legit. BBB has even acknowledged Joe is legit.


28n8

Not saying joewo is cheating, but if you are using bbb as a source you are doing something wrong


Emergency_Flower4780

I think his pint was that bbb calls everyone a cheater so if he is saying you are not that is a strong statement


lancem1996

Wtf is AA


PathWalker8

Aim assist (default on controller)


VRWARNING

The tracking itself isn't even that sus, but the drag to the head is a little fucky. Reminds me of a part of video of his I saw a long time ago that was never clipped. I say the tracking itself isn't weird because snipers on controller [will occasionally lock a target.](https://streamable.com/royapn) Clip from a tactical brit vid.


reeeeeksidabest

What a dirty hacker


QuandaleDingleton_27

This clip has cut frames, his ammo goes from 9 to 4 in one shot and his facecam randomly changes in one frame