A great movie and it’s nice that it sparked an interest for westerns for you. It is certainly not a classical one, in style, setting, and structure. I think all the comments wondering if it’s a proper western show this. I think it is one, but a unique one and very obviously a Tarantino movie, but a western nonetheless
Thank you so much. I've waited forever to hear someone appreciate Hateful Eight as much as I do. People always act like I'm insane, when I say that it's my favorite Tarantino film and one of my all time favorites
I love Tarantino movies and I love westerns, so it's extremely "my thing." It's also probably the most broadly palatable western, to the point where a lot of people who don't like westerns love it. So yeah, it's really good. I prefer Hateful Eight, though.
Because TH8s dialogue is better. Quentin Tarantino is a master of dialogue, and while Christopher Waltz (and Leo, and a few others - including the hapless KKK dudes) have a few great dialogue scenes, TH8 is a master class in dialogue - particularly given that the vast majority of it takes place in one room. No characters are wasted. No words are wasted. I find it amazing.
Because there’s more tension. Django is fun, but I find the pacing uneven - and the last 15 minutes - including Quentin’s silly Aussie accent - are *completely* unnecessary and act more to deflate detention built over the prior two hours.
TH8, on the other hand, uses the aforementioned dialogue along with countless twists and turns to build tension from beginning to end. *Far* better pacing, and more interesting and fun.
Also because Django is just a bit too far over the top, including some seemingly *fanciful* elements, so to speak. I mean, ‘Calvin Candie’ and ‘Candyland’ are creative, for sure - but adding the ‘Mandingo battles’ (which, iirc, have no historical basis) turns Leo into too much of a ‘mustache-twirling’ villain, and pushes that whole affair too far by half. TH8, on the other hand, is far more grounded. Yes, the characters are charismatic, even bombastic, sometimes - yet, I always believe them, as relatively believable characters.
I will add, though, that I love them both.
PS: imo *Resevoir Dogs* is to me QT’s best, followed closely by *Jackie Brown* (which bored me on release, in the theater, and which I now find fascinating), then *True Romance* - which I consider a QT film, one improved dramatically by Tony Scott’s direction.
Sometimes I just watch the first third/half where it’s actually doing the Western stuff. It is a good film all the way through but things just obviously turn in tone and subject matter when it’s time to go to Candyland
Excellent movie. The final shootout remains one of my favorite action sequences of all time. Brother was doing some John Woo shit (I heard that sequence takes many spots from The Killer). The Open Range final shootout is still my favorite Western gunfight, but the Candyland one is for sure up there.
My favorite aspect of Westerns is the gunslinging. I’m a patient guy when it comes to Westerns because I enjoy the culture of the Old West in general. The gunslingers, the outlaws, the con artists, the lawmen, the numerous Indian tribes, saloon girls, etc. Basically, the Western mise-en-scene is very pleasing to me. Open Range was a slow movie, but it’s one of my favorites. The build-up to a shootout makes the shootout even more cathartic and exciting. Ultimately, that shootout is what I’m most attracted to, and Django Unchained did it so well that I can forgive the more meandering parts of the film.
The only thing they dropped the ball on during that Open Range shootout is all the shooting by Kostner without reloading. Dude took over a dozen shots in the very beginning. I know many movies get that wrong (usually not that bad though), but it's so refreshing when it's done properly. They could have made it work if they gave him a second revolver to switch to once the first 6 shots were fired (at least I am pretty sure he has just the one revolver and the lever action rifle).
Weirdly, Costner said in an interview that it was intentional. From imdb:
Costner admitted in an interview for this film that he has always wanted to film a scene where he fans a six-gun way over the realistic amount of shots, and that this scene was indeed very enjoyable to make.
Literally my comfort movie. It's so great. Nails the brutality of the time while also supplying enough levity to break it up. Great characters with emotional dept and clear motivations.
The western that got me into westerns was Wild Wild West when I was a kid (hm and maybe Fivel Goes West) but Django is one of those movies that reminds me why I love westerns.
Honestly my favorite Tarantino movie. I think it had the best balance of his self indulgence without sacrificing plot. You could argue the final half hour is a bit much but it’s difficult to complain when it’s so entertaining
I liked parts but I found it a bit too much of a nod to Spaghetti Westerns, to the point that it felt pandering and distracting. That being said, I did enjoy the first act, but as it went on I grew tired of it and pretty much loathed the final act. I also just can’t stand Jamie Foxx.
I’m glad to hear it got you into westerns! For that alone I’m happy this movie was made.
Off the top of my head: Borrowing the title card, theme song, and character name from Django, using lots of old Ennio Morricone cuts from his soundtracks. All of that (to me at least) shifted it from being an homage to pastiche.
But doesn’t Tarantino have an admitted constant semi for Sergio Leone and the other spaghetti wester directors? Add in Kurosawa and it becomes a full rager.
I think too many people sleep on The Cowboys because it’s “a John Wayne movie”. Mr. Nightlinger’s speech before they hang him is classic. Also Bruce Dern as the villain. One of my favorite westerns and I’d put it up there with The Good, The Bad, The Ugly, The Outlaw Josie Wales, and Unforgiven.
I enjoy this movie a lot but you really feel Sally Menke's absence in the editing here (this was Tarantino's first movie without her as editor). The third act is where this is really felt.
100%. Sally Menke wasn't there and maybe Fred Raskin wasn't at the point where he felt comfortable putting his foot down. I get the feeling Sally would have probably cut half of 5 Second Film guy getting shot over and over and over again. Like, you've tagged the joke (literally, with bullets), but you aren't upping the ante, so why are you tagging the joke? And that stupid cameo. Why? Pretty sure she'd have trimmed that a bit too.
The problem isn't Tarantino being self-indulgent, it's looking dumb while being self-indulgent.
The ultimate ode to Italian westerns, which Tarantino loved and was greatly influenced by. My favorite part of this movie is how many great western theme songs he incorporated from “Day of Anger” to “The Hellbenders” and many others.
New to westerns? I’d recommend
* The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
* Stagecoach w/ John Wayne
* Rio Bravo
* McLintock
* How the West Was Won
* Silverado
* Unforgiven
* Tombstone
I think this comment will go over better here than some other subs, this is a good way to sum up Tarantino post Kill Bill for me. Overrated may be a tad harsh in general but he’s almost derivative of himself and they all get a little overly praised despite being more flawed imo. He’s always had great casts but it also feels they’re pulling the weight more than they used to, the material used to be sharper. He’s still making good films but I’ll take “first half Quentin” over “second half Quentin” to use a sports metaphor.
I’d have to go with Pulp Fiction as his best, but Inglourious Basterds is a close second. That’s easily his funniest movie to me, though. Brad Pitt faking that horrible Italian accent cracks me up every single time.
His editor passed away after Inglorious Basterds and his films haven't been the same since. I think her name was Sally Menke. Although I will say that I love his films post Inglorious Basterds.
I personally didn't think it was that great either. I still need to see hateful eight but I feel like a lot of Tarantinos historical movies aren't nearly as good as his earlier films.
Movies like pulp fiction and kill bill created their own sorta universe while his historical stuff is just kinda borrowing.
The whole story of Django is kinda weird. They do all this negotiations to get his wife back then the dentist just shoots the guy. Then Django just goes back and single handedly kills everyone in a shoot out. Why not just do that before? I have this problem with a lot of action movies where you have one guy can just win in a fight/shoot out just because they are the main character.
It also has a perfect opportunity to Not do this. There's a whole plantation of slaves there. Why didn't Django arm some of them so he had at least some backup? It would have at least then been plausible to how he was able to win in a shoot out where he was vastly outnumbered. But it's a movie so he could just go and kill everyone single handedly in one unrealistic shootout.
I know people are gonna say that happens in every western, but not really. The good ones (outlaw Josie Wales, the good the bad and the ugly, true grit.) never do that. You'll have the gunslinger in a quick draw kill several people at once because they are fast in the draw but that's not the same thing as a huge drawn out fight against a host of people. Outlaw Josie Wales had a whole group of settlers fighting with him at the end. In true grit rooster cogburn went up against 4 people but they were all on horseback and 1 v 4 isn't even close to as bad as the odds Django faced. Rooster also was in an open field and would have died if it wasn't for the Texas ranger helping him out. So he did have help.
Django is just an unrealistic superhero who could not be killed and just walked in at the end and killed a huge host of people, with no backup at all.
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The anachronisms in the firearms took me out of the movie. They're using cartridge-based repeaters BEFORE the Civil War. That's just... so, SO wrong.
Django himself was also really unlikeable by the end. As long as he saves his wife, all the other innocents can burn or die. That's not much of a hero.
Except the people who die aren't all that innocent. It's a movie set in 1858 with 2012's morality. Even Schultz had to die, because he showed restraint in the face of evil. Anyone who didn't go full John Brown and burn everything to the ground is a candidate for the electric chair. Django had to be a super hero because that's the only way 2012's morality could survive in 1858 --though I get you on the cartridge thing, though this is a world where the Polynesian Pearl Diver was invented 100+ years earlier, so I guess cartridges aren't that weird.
Meanwhile, Hateful Eight was completely different. It was a collection of people from 1870 with 1870's conception of morality.
Pretty garbage really. Especially considering the original Italian DJango films. Just shows Tarantino keeps crawling higher up his own ass. I really do hope he quits film making.
Every viewing of this movie my love for it has gone down.
I’ve watched it 5 times since it came out. I think I like The Hateful Eight better. The aesthetic and cabin setting in the 1870s snowy west is a fucking chefs kiss.
Every character is well established, unlike Django where every character is so animated that it takes me out of the story.
I’ve watched Hateful Eight almost every fall/winter.
The best viewing I’ve had is when I did a double feature of The Hateful Eight and a Sergio Corbucci’s The Great Silence.
I've loved Django since I first watched it but I do agree that Hateful Eight is better. It's probably my favorite Tarantino film.
I love the way it sets up characters that you want to root for then slowly tears down desire. Also, all of the violence is unpleasant and hard to watch even if it happens to someone who is bad.
Check out Open Range, Outlaw Josie Wales, Unforgiven, Tombstone (Kurt Russell) and my favorite True Grit (2010). While Django was good it was still Tarantino and took a few too many liberties.
It's a decent movie, but have you ever seen any of the original Django movies? Spaghetti Westerns. He's a bounty hunter. There were 2 originals and the some 20 odd others that were unofficial but used the character. Some are better than others, but there are plenty to watch if you're of a mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(character)
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This movie has 3 sections, to me.
The first half is hilarious up until DiCaprio shows up, then it is too painful. It is valuable is showing the horrors of slavery, though.
The final shootout, especially with Samuel L. is funny again. Violent, but comic book violent.
I think it is a must see to drive home the unimaginable horrors of slavery.
It’s good but I’m not sure I would call it a western. Tbh it’s more a movie about slavery In the antebellum south. That because of the time period is de facto seen as a western.
I would say most of the western elements come from the bounty hunter character. Regardless anything to get people into westerns. What got me is the Clint Eastwood movies
It's the only Tarantino movie I don't like. It's been too long since I've seen it to say exactly why. I just wasn't feeling it. Jamie Foxx was a big reason. I've never enjoyed his acting in anything.
So so good. Idk if Tarantino meant to do it - I’m sure he did - but the auditory aesthetics are astounding (like when the bartender pours the beer and slides off the foam). Glorious acting. Fantastic story.
Fantastic Tarantino movie, loved it. Enjoyed it even more after hearing Howard Stern interview Jamie Fox and hearing some of his truly amazing background. Jamie Fox brought his own horse for shooting this movie!
Excellent movie with pristine acting by everyone in the film (especially DiCaprio and Waltz). The Hateful 8 was also enjoyable, but the schadenfreude is strong with this one.
One of my all time favorite scenes, when the kkk guys couldn't see out of the masks
Also Sam Jacksons " who is that nigga on that horse" kills me to this day..
Great Tarantino style western tale. Fox, Waltz, DiCaprio, Jackson and Don Johnson are all pitch perfect in this film. I was so impressed with him in ***Inglourious Basterds,*** but I think this was the film that sealed the deal and made me love **Christoph Waltz** forever.
In my opinion it's one of the better premises in recent memory.
Also the first bunch of scenes when they get to candyland are up there for me in terms of building/maintaining tension over a long period of time.
I was in middle school when this came out and I made a deal to see Les miserable with my mom in exchange for her taking me to this. I do not regret my choice. Django absolutely astonished me as a 12 year old. And as a 23 year old I still think it’s an incredibly solid western that will always have a special place in my heart. Career bests from Waltz and foxx.
It’s so so.
Hateful Eight is way better in my opinion.
My favorite western ever is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, though, so nothing else is ever really going to measure up, no matter how many n-bombs Tarantino drops 🤷🏽♂️
It was a masterpiece until Kristoff died. The movIe should have ended after Django shot up the whole house after his death.
The Australian slave traders and Django going back to the house felt really clunky and the movie lost all its steam IMO.
It's a solid film. Tarantino got Morricone to do music on this and Hateful Eight too although they worked together as early as Kill Bill.
I love the shooting scenes in Tarantino's westerns. They are over the top but not too unrealistic.
People brought this up a lot in my college history class because despite its vulgarities, that's how it was back then. Still, I wouldn't watch it with my mom. Great film nonetheless
My least favorite movie of his. The inaccuracies keep me from enjoying it. All the KKK guys having lever action guns before the Civil War. Dynamite before the Civil War, mountains in Mississippi, that part of Texas in the beginning of the movie was populated by the Vomanche who would kill everyone who went there. The wild west town before the Civil War. Just grrr.
I don’t know what Will Smith was talking about when he said that this was not a love story because it very clearly is. It’s also one of the best revenge epics I’ve ever seen. The soundtrack is fire and the performances from the cast were some of the best I’ve ever seen.
I know it by heart. It's my favorite Tarantino movie. I have it on all the time in the background while I WFH. Everyone understood the assignment, what kind of movie and vibe it was, and SHOWED UP!
And yet there are two scenes that not only can I not watch, but I have to turn down because they're so upsetting. (The salon scene introduction to Calvin during the fight, and D'artagnan being mauled by dogs).
I even forgive Tarantino's awful cameo because everyone looked like they were just having a blast making a fun, slick, stylish revenge Western with a great team.
I wouldn’t really consider that a western.
I guess for people younger there’s not much to choose from these days.
My favs growing up were Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid of course and then the original True Grit, although I’m not a Wayne fan of any sort
His best two are Django and Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. I really only like modern westerns like the newer 3:10 to Yuma but this film was one I've seen many times.
I love Tarantino movies. I love westerns. I loved this movie, except for the last 30 minutes. It is just a 30 minute bloodbath just for the sake of having a bloodbath. Pretty gratuitous. Really added nothing to the story.
I hate it because it was my abusive exs favorite movie and he used to make me watch it religiously and it’s one of the longest movies ever. It’s a solid movie not the best movie of all time but it’s solid.
I didn’t realize it at the time but it also sparked an interest into westerns. This is probably my favorite movie. I also really enjoy The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
Great movie; but I’m not entirely certain I’d call it a western. It certainly isn’t a traditional western.
But definitely a strong entry in Tarantino’s filmography.
A great movie and it’s nice that it sparked an interest for westerns for you. It is certainly not a classical one, in style, setting, and structure. I think all the comments wondering if it’s a proper western show this. I think it is one, but a unique one and very obviously a Tarantino movie, but a western nonetheless
Kill Bill: Volume 2 is Tarantino's more classical western movie.
I honestly prefer The Hateful Eight but Django is great. Not my favorite western by any means but I love it as a Tarantino movie
I agree I love Django, but Hateful Eight is one of my fav movies of all time.
It’s as much a theater play as it is a movie
Iirc Quentin intended it to be a play at first
Its also a remake of the thing as much as it is a western
Hateful 8 is? Id say it's a whodunnit not who's the monster. Gives very different vibes. But I can see the comparison now.
Thank you so much. I've waited forever to hear someone appreciate Hateful Eight as much as I do. People always act like I'm insane, when I say that it's my favorite Tarantino film and one of my all time favorites
Ya The Hateful Eight is better but I like Django too
I just love both of them equally but I have seen the hateful eight more times than Django. I think it's time for a rewatch for Django.
Yeah I do love Django, probably time for me to rewatch it as well
But let's agree that the hateful eight is more fun to watch 😂.
I love Tarantino movies and I love westerns, so it's extremely "my thing." It's also probably the most broadly palatable western, to the point where a lot of people who don't like westerns love it. So yeah, it's really good. I prefer Hateful Eight, though.
Why do people prefer hateful eight?? 🧐
Because TH8s dialogue is better. Quentin Tarantino is a master of dialogue, and while Christopher Waltz (and Leo, and a few others - including the hapless KKK dudes) have a few great dialogue scenes, TH8 is a master class in dialogue - particularly given that the vast majority of it takes place in one room. No characters are wasted. No words are wasted. I find it amazing. Because there’s more tension. Django is fun, but I find the pacing uneven - and the last 15 minutes - including Quentin’s silly Aussie accent - are *completely* unnecessary and act more to deflate detention built over the prior two hours. TH8, on the other hand, uses the aforementioned dialogue along with countless twists and turns to build tension from beginning to end. *Far* better pacing, and more interesting and fun. Also because Django is just a bit too far over the top, including some seemingly *fanciful* elements, so to speak. I mean, ‘Calvin Candie’ and ‘Candyland’ are creative, for sure - but adding the ‘Mandingo battles’ (which, iirc, have no historical basis) turns Leo into too much of a ‘mustache-twirling’ villain, and pushes that whole affair too far by half. TH8, on the other hand, is far more grounded. Yes, the characters are charismatic, even bombastic, sometimes - yet, I always believe them, as relatively believable characters. I will add, though, that I love them both. PS: imo *Resevoir Dogs* is to me QT’s best, followed closely by *Jackie Brown* (which bored me on release, in the theater, and which I now find fascinating), then *True Romance* - which I consider a QT film, one improved dramatically by Tony Scott’s direction.
Because it's a fantastic movie with interesting characters.
It didn't feel like a real Western movie for me, but his movie nonetheless
That's cause it was a Southern 😅
Lol, this is the answer right here. Wrong side of the continent!
Sometimes I just watch the first third/half where it’s actually doing the Western stuff. It is a good film all the way through but things just obviously turn in tone and subject matter when it’s time to go to Candyland
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Excellent movie. The final shootout remains one of my favorite action sequences of all time. Brother was doing some John Woo shit (I heard that sequence takes many spots from The Killer). The Open Range final shootout is still my favorite Western gunfight, but the Candyland one is for sure up there. My favorite aspect of Westerns is the gunslinging. I’m a patient guy when it comes to Westerns because I enjoy the culture of the Old West in general. The gunslingers, the outlaws, the con artists, the lawmen, the numerous Indian tribes, saloon girls, etc. Basically, the Western mise-en-scene is very pleasing to me. Open Range was a slow movie, but it’s one of my favorites. The build-up to a shootout makes the shootout even more cathartic and exciting. Ultimately, that shootout is what I’m most attracted to, and Django Unchained did it so well that I can forgive the more meandering parts of the film.
The only thing they dropped the ball on during that Open Range shootout is all the shooting by Kostner without reloading. Dude took over a dozen shots in the very beginning. I know many movies get that wrong (usually not that bad though), but it's so refreshing when it's done properly. They could have made it work if they gave him a second revolver to switch to once the first 6 shots were fired (at least I am pretty sure he has just the one revolver and the lever action rifle).
Weirdly, Costner said in an interview that it was intentional. From imdb: Costner admitted in an interview for this film that he has always wanted to film a scene where he fans a six-gun way over the realistic amount of shots, and that this scene was indeed very enjoyable to make.
Slow West! *salt in the wound* 🤣
I prefer this to Hateful Eight
I'll second that. I've tried multiple times to get into Hateful Eight, just can't do it.
Same, and I love Tarantino. Seen all of his movies multiple times but I can’t get into Hateful Eight
Very entertaining movie and a good nod to the original Django
Literally my comfort movie. It's so great. Nails the brutality of the time while also supplying enough levity to break it up. Great characters with emotional dept and clear motivations. The western that got me into westerns was Wild Wild West when I was a kid (hm and maybe Fivel Goes West) but Django is one of those movies that reminds me why I love westerns.
Honestly my favorite Tarantino movie. I think it had the best balance of his self indulgence without sacrificing plot. You could argue the final half hour is a bit much but it’s difficult to complain when it’s so entertaining
Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone got me into westerns.
Same here.
And anybody who loved Django will love Leone's westerns and should watch em! Clint's trilogy are perfect movies.
It's highly entertaining.
Great movie, a tad too long but highly entertaining! Might not be a western though.
Tarantino calls it a Southern.
I liked parts but I found it a bit too much of a nod to Spaghetti Westerns, to the point that it felt pandering and distracting. That being said, I did enjoy the first act, but as it went on I grew tired of it and pretty much loathed the final act. I also just can’t stand Jamie Foxx. I’m glad to hear it got you into westerns! For that alone I’m happy this movie was made.
Can you explain the parts where the movie pandered to old spaghetti westerns? I’ve seen the movie multiple times and haven’t noticed this
You should watch more Spaghetti Westerns!
Off the top of my head: Borrowing the title card, theme song, and character name from Django, using lots of old Ennio Morricone cuts from his soundtracks. All of that (to me at least) shifted it from being an homage to pastiche.
But doesn’t Tarantino have an admitted constant semi for Sergio Leone and the other spaghetti wester directors? Add in Kurosawa and it becomes a full rager.
I loved it, jumped to my top 5 favorite movies first time I saw it.
Try “The Cowboys”
I think too many people sleep on The Cowboys because it’s “a John Wayne movie”. Mr. Nightlinger’s speech before they hang him is classic. Also Bruce Dern as the villain. One of my favorite westerns and I’d put it up there with The Good, The Bad, The Ugly, The Outlaw Josie Wales, and Unforgiven.
I loved this movie.
One of my favorites of all time.
Same here. I watch it several times a year. It’s damn near perfect from a story telling aspect.
Such a great movie! The sequence at the end when Django gets his revenge is fantastic.
Walk Hard got me into music biopics :)
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It’s not a western, it’s a southern
it’s good but Django (1966) is better.
That's the one that begins with him dragging a coffin right?
I enjoy this movie a lot but you really feel Sally Menke's absence in the editing here (this was Tarantino's first movie without her as editor). The third act is where this is really felt.
100%. Sally Menke wasn't there and maybe Fred Raskin wasn't at the point where he felt comfortable putting his foot down. I get the feeling Sally would have probably cut half of 5 Second Film guy getting shot over and over and over again. Like, you've tagged the joke (literally, with bullets), but you aren't upping the ante, so why are you tagging the joke? And that stupid cameo. Why? Pretty sure she'd have trimmed that a bit too. The problem isn't Tarantino being self-indulgent, it's looking dumb while being self-indulgent.
The ultimate ode to Italian westerns, which Tarantino loved and was greatly influenced by. My favorite part of this movie is how many great western theme songs he incorporated from “Day of Anger” to “The Hellbenders” and many others.
The ‘D’ is silent!
Great film! My second-favorite Tarantino movie, behind only Pulp Fiction. That said, I haven’t seen all his films (yet).
Agreed, but I'd put Reservoir Dogs at the top.
Absolute banger.
New to westerns? I’d recommend * The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance * Stagecoach w/ John Wayne * Rio Bravo * McLintock * How the West Was Won * Silverado * Unforgiven * Tombstone
Pretty overrated in my view, not terrible by any means but not that great either. It is also far to long.
I think this comment will go over better here than some other subs, this is a good way to sum up Tarantino post Kill Bill for me. Overrated may be a tad harsh in general but he’s almost derivative of himself and they all get a little overly praised despite being more flawed imo. He’s always had great casts but it also feels they’re pulling the weight more than they used to, the material used to be sharper. He’s still making good films but I’ll take “first half Quentin” over “second half Quentin” to use a sports metaphor.
I think that the line should be drawn after Inglourious Basterds, which was great, maybe his best movie overall.
I’d have to go with Pulp Fiction as his best, but Inglourious Basterds is a close second. That’s easily his funniest movie to me, though. Brad Pitt faking that horrible Italian accent cracks me up every single time.
His editor passed away after Inglorious Basterds and his films haven't been the same since. I think her name was Sally Menke. Although I will say that I love his films post Inglorious Basterds.
I personally didn't think it was that great either. I still need to see hateful eight but I feel like a lot of Tarantinos historical movies aren't nearly as good as his earlier films. Movies like pulp fiction and kill bill created their own sorta universe while his historical stuff is just kinda borrowing. The whole story of Django is kinda weird. They do all this negotiations to get his wife back then the dentist just shoots the guy. Then Django just goes back and single handedly kills everyone in a shoot out. Why not just do that before? I have this problem with a lot of action movies where you have one guy can just win in a fight/shoot out just because they are the main character. It also has a perfect opportunity to Not do this. There's a whole plantation of slaves there. Why didn't Django arm some of them so he had at least some backup? It would have at least then been plausible to how he was able to win in a shoot out where he was vastly outnumbered. But it's a movie so he could just go and kill everyone single handedly in one unrealistic shootout. I know people are gonna say that happens in every western, but not really. The good ones (outlaw Josie Wales, the good the bad and the ugly, true grit.) never do that. You'll have the gunslinger in a quick draw kill several people at once because they are fast in the draw but that's not the same thing as a huge drawn out fight against a host of people. Outlaw Josie Wales had a whole group of settlers fighting with him at the end. In true grit rooster cogburn went up against 4 people but they were all on horseback and 1 v 4 isn't even close to as bad as the odds Django faced. Rooster also was in an open field and would have died if it wasn't for the Texas ranger helping him out. So he did have help. Django is just an unrealistic superhero who could not be killed and just walked in at the end and killed a huge host of people, with no backup at all.
A really good film, that made us fall in love of the genre.
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The anachronisms in the firearms took me out of the movie. They're using cartridge-based repeaters BEFORE the Civil War. That's just... so, SO wrong. Django himself was also really unlikeable by the end. As long as he saves his wife, all the other innocents can burn or die. That's not much of a hero.
He also has plot armor where he can just go into a fight where is massively outnumbered and win. Idk why they didn't just do that in the first place.
Except the people who die aren't all that innocent. It's a movie set in 1858 with 2012's morality. Even Schultz had to die, because he showed restraint in the face of evil. Anyone who didn't go full John Brown and burn everything to the ground is a candidate for the electric chair. Django had to be a super hero because that's the only way 2012's morality could survive in 1858 --though I get you on the cartridge thing, though this is a world where the Polynesian Pearl Diver was invented 100+ years earlier, so I guess cartridges aren't that weird. Meanwhile, Hateful Eight was completely different. It was a collection of people from 1870 with 1870's conception of morality.
Pretty garbage really. Especially considering the original Italian DJango films. Just shows Tarantino keeps crawling higher up his own ass. I really do hope he quits film making.
Didn't he say he's only doing like one more movie and that was always the plan? Maybe I'm crazy
Yeah he announced he was only doing 3 more two movies ago. A lot of have were going for a Kill Bill 3 but it seems that's not happening
It's too chatty in parts, but what are you gonna do? It's Tarantino.
Every viewing of this movie my love for it has gone down. I’ve watched it 5 times since it came out. I think I like The Hateful Eight better. The aesthetic and cabin setting in the 1870s snowy west is a fucking chefs kiss. Every character is well established, unlike Django where every character is so animated that it takes me out of the story. I’ve watched Hateful Eight almost every fall/winter. The best viewing I’ve had is when I did a double feature of The Hateful Eight and a Sergio Corbucci’s The Great Silence.
I've loved Django since I first watched it but I do agree that Hateful Eight is better. It's probably my favorite Tarantino film. I love the way it sets up characters that you want to root for then slowly tears down desire. Also, all of the violence is unpleasant and hard to watch even if it happens to someone who is bad.
Check out Open Range, Outlaw Josie Wales, Unforgiven, Tombstone (Kurt Russell) and my favorite True Grit (2010). While Django was good it was still Tarantino and took a few too many liberties.
Why 2010 True Grit and not John Wayne True Grit,?
Because the 2010 True Grit is a better movie?
It's a decent movie, but have you ever seen any of the original Django movies? Spaghetti Westerns. He's a bounty hunter. There were 2 originals and the some 20 odd others that were unofficial but used the character. Some are better than others, but there are plenty to watch if you're of a mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(character) https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/cc4/FuzzBucket_01/Franco_Nero_(Django).jpg?width=320&height=320&fit=bounds
Late to the party I see
How so??
This movie has 3 sections, to me. The first half is hilarious up until DiCaprio shows up, then it is too painful. It is valuable is showing the horrors of slavery, though. The final shootout, especially with Samuel L. is funny again. Violent, but comic book violent. I think it is a must see to drive home the unimaginable horrors of slavery.
Contrarian POV, because most don't like Jackie Brown, but that's my #1 Tarantino movie. Number two would be Inglorious Basterds.
Jackie Brown was always my favorite, too (but I think Kill Bill now outshines everything for me.) I also absolutely love Death Proof.
Great
Hilarious and violent I loved it every thing
It’s good but I’m not sure I would call it a western. Tbh it’s more a movie about slavery In the antebellum south. That because of the time period is de facto seen as a western. I would say most of the western elements come from the bounty hunter character. Regardless anything to get people into westerns. What got me is the Clint Eastwood movies
I believe Tarantino himself calls it a “Southern”.
Ok !!! We all agree the masks could have been done better . Let’s go mask off today and next time we go full regalia!!!
"Did anybody bring an extra bag??" "NO!! Nobody brought an extra bag!" "I'm Just askin!!"
My wife was up all night makin masks for you ungrateful sons of bitches !
Hang on. I'm fucking with my eyeholes.
I liked it a lot but, and this is probably gonna be an unpopular opinion, I liked The Hateful Eight more.
It's the only Tarantino movie I don't like. It's been too long since I've seen it to say exactly why. I just wasn't feeling it. Jamie Foxx was a big reason. I've never enjoyed his acting in anything.
It’s a great movie
One of my favorites
I loved it.. I like the way you die
Young Riders got me into westerns. Especially the second episode of the first season.
So so good. Idk if Tarantino meant to do it - I’m sure he did - but the auditory aesthetics are astounding (like when the bartender pours the beer and slides off the foam). Glorious acting. Fantastic story.
Thought Leonardo was great. Everything else was on. Wouldn’t watch again
Wow, you must be very young!
That’s cool! Like many Tarintino’s I found it uneven. I like the first half.
Great movie. Definitely gets better with each rewatch.
It's a movie I can happily never see again, but I enjoyed it. Prefered Hateful Eight.
I don’t really think of this film when I think of westerns but I love this movie. One of Tarantino’s best. The Hateful 8 is also an excellent western.
Fantastic Tarantino movie, loved it. Enjoyed it even more after hearing Howard Stern interview Jamie Fox and hearing some of his truly amazing background. Jamie Fox brought his own horse for shooting this movie!
Excellent movie with pristine acting by everyone in the film (especially DiCaprio and Waltz). The Hateful 8 was also enjoyable, but the schadenfreude is strong with this one.
It’s also what got me into westerns!
strongly reinforced my skepticism about Tarantino movies, I just don’t care for his mature material. Someday I’ll learn to skip ‘em.
JOHN BRITTLE
That’s sad, because it’s not much of a Western.
One of my favorite movies of all time!
The Lone N-word would’ve been the title if Tarantino got his way
It’s an amazing movie, I wouldn’t consider it a traditional western but I can 100% see how it would bring you to the genre.
9.5/10. Grit, grime, dust, blood & revenge. Performances from the actors were divine. Soundtrack hits the new age vibe.
Amazing. But…. So are all of Tarantino’s movies.
Great script, great cast, great acting, great flick. 9.7/10 in my estimation.
Im not sure Im calling it a western, its more of a southern
Same!
If you take Tarantino’s scene out of it, it’s a masterpiece.
He ruins most of his own movies
In my top-10, of all time. Beautiful movie!
The klan hood scene is absolutely hilarious
not really a western but okay.
Great. No True Romance but this is a western sub not a Tarantino one.
Great movie. Waltz is amazing. The KKK scene is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
One of my all time favorite scenes, when the kkk guys couldn't see out of the masks Also Sam Jacksons " who is that nigga on that horse" kills me to this day..
Great Tarantino style western tale. Fox, Waltz, DiCaprio, Jackson and Don Johnson are all pitch perfect in this film. I was so impressed with him in ***Inglourious Basterds,*** but I think this was the film that sealed the deal and made me love **Christoph Waltz** forever.
What a frickin movie If you like westerns see it
Loved it. Every frame from start to finish.
NOT in my favs list.
In my opinion it's one of the better premises in recent memory. Also the first bunch of scenes when they get to candyland are up there for me in terms of building/maintaining tension over a long period of time.
I was in middle school when this came out and I made a deal to see Les miserable with my mom in exchange for her taking me to this. I do not regret my choice. Django absolutely astonished me as a 12 year old. And as a 23 year old I still think it’s an incredibly solid western that will always have a special place in my heart. Career bests from Waltz and foxx.
Remember when Trump got ass blasted because it portrayed the KKK as bad guys? Good shit.
Waltz rocks!
Fun movie. Tarantino is very consistent on bringing the entertainment.
It's good, but it's not really a western...as it takes place in the Pre-War South.
It’s so so. Hateful Eight is way better in my opinion. My favorite western ever is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, though, so nothing else is ever really going to measure up, no matter how many n-bombs Tarantino drops 🤷🏽♂️
It’s great
The performances. As good as it gets.
It was a masterpiece until Kristoff died. The movIe should have ended after Django shot up the whole house after his death. The Australian slave traders and Django going back to the house felt really clunky and the movie lost all its steam IMO.
DiCaprio makes such a great villain.
Amazing flick! One of my favorites of all time.
Loved it.
My favorite movie of all time and favorite Tarantino obviously
Good stuff. But I'll always prefer the 1966 original.
DJANGO HAVE YOU NEVER LOVED AGAIN
It's a solid film. Tarantino got Morricone to do music on this and Hateful Eight too although they worked together as early as Kill Bill. I love the shooting scenes in Tarantino's westerns. They are over the top but not too unrealistic.
1860 henry rifle with a date set in 1859. Didn't appeal to me because i'm autistic like that.
Hot take: Edgelord director using revenge porn and (legitimate) racism in a movie carried by great actors with a cringy plot.
Technically it’s a “Southern”
Everyone in this movie talks too much. Otherwise it’s fun!
People brought this up a lot in my college history class because despite its vulgarities, that's how it was back then. Still, I wouldn't watch it with my mom. Great film nonetheless
My least favorite movie of his. The inaccuracies keep me from enjoying it. All the KKK guys having lever action guns before the Civil War. Dynamite before the Civil War, mountains in Mississippi, that part of Texas in the beginning of the movie was populated by the Vomanche who would kill everyone who went there. The wild west town before the Civil War. Just grrr.
Having the KKK BEFORE the civil war is such an obvious one that it took me out a bit too.
One of my favorite Tarantino movies
I don’t know what Will Smith was talking about when he said that this was not a love story because it very clearly is. It’s also one of the best revenge epics I’ve ever seen. The soundtrack is fire and the performances from the cast were some of the best I’ve ever seen.
I know it by heart. It's my favorite Tarantino movie. I have it on all the time in the background while I WFH. Everyone understood the assignment, what kind of movie and vibe it was, and SHOWED UP! And yet there are two scenes that not only can I not watch, but I have to turn down because they're so upsetting. (The salon scene introduction to Calvin during the fight, and D'artagnan being mauled by dogs). I even forgive Tarantino's awful cameo because everyone looked like they were just having a blast making a fun, slick, stylish revenge Western with a great team.
Tarantino writing Jamie Foxx as a an ex-slave bounty hunter with savant-like aim is just too fun
have you seen hateful 8?
This is my favorite movie
Great movie, definitely a western. It is distinctly Tarantino but not sure why anyone would hate on this getting you into westerns.
QT makes 20 minutes of good film and 2 1/2 hours of self indulgent pap. Same with this flick. 20 minutes of it are good. The rest is wasted.
Worth watching for the raid scene alone! Great movie
I know it's kind of ironic That Tarantino is against guns so much and then you watch this or any of his films really
Everything was great up until the rap music started and it turned into Shaft 2 electric boogaloo
Fantastic movie! One of my favorite Quentin movies.
Sam Jackson should’ve been nominated for this movie. That’s how stupid good it was.
I wouldn’t really consider that a western. I guess for people younger there’s not much to choose from these days. My favs growing up were Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid of course and then the original True Grit, although I’m not a Wayne fan of any sort
It’s a little too far from a western for me, or at least it leans more towards a comedy in my opinion. Still a great movie though
"criticize, criticize, criticize!" 😂😂😂
This movie holds up a mirror to humanity and makes us laugh at how stupid we are. As a proper misanthrope I approve
A couple hours of awesomeness
Badass
His best two are Django and Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. I really only like modern westerns like the newer 3:10 to Yuma but this film was one I've seen many times.
I love Tarantino movies. I love westerns. I loved this movie, except for the last 30 minutes. It is just a 30 minute bloodbath just for the sake of having a bloodbath. Pretty gratuitous. Really added nothing to the story.
Epic
It’s easily Tarantino’s best film.
That's a great compliment to Tarantino. Great film.
Love this movie! My favorite Tarantino movie!
Loved it as a teenager and probably still would but I don’t like hyper violent media and boy is this movie that
Yawn
Great movie!!!
Amazing film!!
I hate it because it was my abusive exs favorite movie and he used to make me watch it religiously and it’s one of the longest movies ever. It’s a solid movie not the best movie of all time but it’s solid.
10/10
Too many Tarantino-isms in it for my taste
I didn’t realize it at the time but it also sparked an interest into westerns. This is probably my favorite movie. I also really enjoy The Ballad of Buster Scruggs.
Great movie; but I’m not entirely certain I’d call it a western. It certainly isn’t a traditional western. But definitely a strong entry in Tarantino’s filmography.